Can't help you with Clen Codase but maybe Dully Galder might be Ballyculter, a Parish in County Down Pamela Harrow

Hi Bill & all I really do not think you should do away with the best (Ancestral Quest) because a Mac might be allowing ( in their high handed way) FTM (the worst) in to their platform. There is an answer. The Mac's now will allow the user to go parallel with PC programs on their platform . So you can continue using Ancestral Quest with a Mac. I have a relative who went Mac and is continuing with his Ancestral Quest by utilizing the PC parallel feature. I guess Mac must have realized that the PC's have so much more going for them so they had to adjust. Frank Easton Sherwood Park Alberta Canada

Bill,       I can send you correspondence from very disgruntled users of FTM 2010.  I too bought 2010, but luckily installed it in another computer, so I still have my files intact in my old computer.  I too disliked everything about version 2010.  I think it would be wise to thoroughly check out this MAC version of FTM before you decide.   Marc Archer Lake Odessa, MI --- On Sat, 8/14/10, Bill Steele <westeele@cox.net> wrote: From: Bill Steele <westeele@cox.net> Subject: [Lanark] PC versus MAC To: lanark@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 3:33 AM Hello All: I am not sure if this topic has been addressed or not?  Currently all of my genealogy files (PAF and Ancestral Quest) are PC based. I am considering moving from a PC to a MAC and I am curious if any within this group have made this transition?  I understand that FTM is close to releasing a MAC based version.  Any input would be appreciated. -- Bill __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5366 (20100814) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com   ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC:  The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE:  Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All: I am not sure if this topic has been addressed or not? Currently all of my genealogy files (PAF and Ancestral Quest) are PC based. I am considering moving from a PC to a MAC and I am curious if any within this group have made this transition? I understand that FTM is close to releasing a MAC based version. Any input would be appreciated. -- Bill __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5366 (20100814) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Hi Nirvard & Anne Yes I know I am asking for guesses, but I was hoping that it might be obvious to someone with a bit of local knowledge. I have just spent a small fortune on SP and have to mind the pennies for a wee while which is why I am not on SP sorting it out! And why I'm a tad frustrated trying to second guess the Ancestry transcribers. Thanks anyway. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Off topic, Irish locations.. Clen Codase, Ireland,Dully Galder, Co.Down N.Ireland > Hi Judith > > Any guess work is just that a guess > > The only way is to get a copy of the original enumerators page and see > what it says > > That in itself is a transcript (by the enumerator) so if prone to error > like any transcript > > It will cost you £1.20 on scotlandspeople (£6 outlay) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> Just a bit off topic, the rellies did die in LKS but I found them >> with Irish birthplaces in 1871 census on Ancestry.com which >> are not reknown for translating accurately! >> >> Could some kind soul take a guess at the above names as to >> what they should be please? I cant find them on google >> and whilst I think Clen is probably Glen , and Dully could be >> Bally they dont show up using either of those possibilities. >> >> Any help much appreciated. >> >> Regards >> Judith > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5363 (20100813) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Russells of Lanarkshire I have belonged to this list for years and finally I have seen some interest in a RUSSELL family from Lanark. I am interested in Marion Russell, born c1825 Renfrew. I do not know her parents, but I have found a possible Marion Russell in the 1841 census , of Greenock aged 15. "My" Marion Russell married David Walker at Dunbarton, Rhu (Row) in December 1847, and at the time of the 1851 census of Scotland, David and Marion were living at 20 Kent Street, Glasgow, Lanark with their children (Mary aged 3 years and David aged one year) and David was working as an engine keeper. c1853 the family moved to Newcastle on Tyne, where David worked in the shipbuilding industry. At the time of the 1861 census of England, David and Marion were living at 51 Smith’s Dock, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Byker District, Northumberland with their children (Mary, aged 13 years; Marion, aged 10 years; Margaret, aged 8 years; Robert, aged 6 years; David, aged 3 years; twins Jean and John aged 6 months). David was then working as an engineer. By the time of the 1871 census of England, David had died and Marion was living at Newcastle Upon Tyne, Byker District, Northumberland with her 6 youngest children. Marion had a grocer's shop and her 39 year old brother Edward was living with the family. Edward was working as a labourer. I have not been able to find any birth or other records for Edward Russell, who was born c1832 a/c to the census. Marion Russell Walker died in Newcastle on Tyne in December 1847. Can anyone please help an Aussie "battler"? Audrey King, Blue Mts, NSW Australia

Hi Judith I'm not an expert, but I agree Clen is probably Glen and I think Dully might be Duffy. Kind regards Elizabeth > and whilst I think Clen is probably Glen , and Dully could be > Bally they dont show up using either of those possibilities. Any help much appreciated. Regards Judith

Hi Listers, Just a bit off topic, the rellies did die in LKS but I found them with Irish birthplaces in 1871 census on Ancestry.com which are not reknown for translating accurately! Could some kind soul take a guess at the above names as to what they should be please? I cant find them on google and whilst I think Clen is probably Glen , and Dully could be Bally they dont show up using either of those possibilities. Any help much appreciated. Regards Judith __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5359 (20100811) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

> Just a bit off topic, the rellies did die in LKS but I > found them > with Irish birthplaces in 1871 census on Ancestry.com which > are not reknown for translating accurately! > > Could some kind soul take a guess at the above names as to > what they should be please?  The best thing you can do is get the image of the original census from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and see what you think it says. You could also post the image somewhere and then tell us the URL, so we can have a look at it and see what we make of it. I am not about to try to second-guess the ancestry transcription! Anne

Hi Judith Any guess work is just that a guess The only way is to get a copy of the original enumerators page and see what it says That in itself is a transcript (by the enumerator) so if prone to error like any transcript It will cost you £1.20 on scotlandspeople (£6 outlay) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Listers, > > Just a bit off topic, the rellies did die in LKS but I found them > with Irish birthplaces in 1871 census on Ancestry.com which > are not reknown for translating accurately! > > Could some kind soul take a guess at the above names as to > what they should be please? I cant find them on google > and whilst I think Clen is probably Glen , and Dully could be > Bally they dont show up using either of those possibilities. > > Any help much appreciated. > > Regards > Judith

Just remember that London's big, but Biggar's Biggar :-) Your easiest route would be to buy some search credit with ScotlandsPeople and work backwards from your F.i.L data using Parent info from B.M.D. certificates. That will get you back to 1855 easily and quickly ( provided the 'generations' were in Lanarkshire over that period ) Beyond that, you're into the Old Parish Registers ( for Biggar, that would be for St Mary's - the Parish Church) - which can also be searched on the Scotlandspeople website - and that will be harder ... Look at the help notes etc on the ScotlandsPeople website ... There are lots of McMahons in Lanarkshire ( since about 1750 ) but you are right, their origins are in Northern Ireland ... (like most Scots, if you go back far enough ... ) G

In a message dated 8/11/2010 7:00:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, traibabes@aol.com writes: Hi! It has been a little while since I've done any research, and I am a little rusty, so please be patient with me ;-) Hello Tracey and welcome to the list from another newcomer. Now they'll have to be patient with both of us :-) Jeanne

Hi! Although I've been doing geneology for several years now researching my parents families, I've now decided to branch out and see if I can get a bit further with my husband's family. It has been a little while since I've done any research, and I am a little rusty, so please be patient with me ;-) My father-in-law was born in Biggar in 1937. His name is James Thomas Gate MCMAHON. He had a brother George Blackadder MCMAHON. Now, I believe their parents were George Blackadder MCMAHON Snr and Agnes Isabella GATES or GATE (So we know where my F-I-L's middle name came from!) I also believe that George Snr had a brother, not surprisingly called James! , and that there were also sisters Hannah and Agnes. Their parents we believe were another James MCMAHON and Lucy OWEN. James was born around 1859, lucy around 1868. This James ALSO had a brother called George, born around 1856. My F-I-L seemed t think that Lucy may have been Welsh and that our MCMAHON's were Scottish through and through. But I actually suspected that James, George and Lucy may have heralded from Ireland. And this is as far as I got! I did have a subscription to Ancestry and Scots origins at the time that I started tracing our MCMAHONs, but that was a few years ago, on another computer - which I no longer have! All my records are gone! I know, silly that I didn't make a back-up, lesson learned the hard way! So I'm on bended knee, asking for any assistance to get me a bit further. Anything at all to help make this tree a wee bit bigger (or should that be Biggar ?) Thanking you all in advance for your help! tRaCeY :)

Thanks for this information. Bruce Mitchell In a message dated 8/10/2010 20:35:34 Pacific Daylight Time, robert_g_wilson@yahoo.com writes: TEMPLETON of Lanark

I think I'm permanently fused to the chair but I found what I was looking for. Jeanne

TEMPLETON of Lanark First Generation 1. Jean TEMPLETON was born in 1769 in Lanark, Lanarkshire, Scotland. She was baptized on 8 Oct 1769 in Lanark, Lanarkshire, Scotland. She died about 1840 at the age of 71 in Scotland. She married Thomas KAY in 1792. Second Generation 2. William TEMPLETON was born on 21 Jan 1732/3 in Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. He was baptized about 1735 in Thripwood, Scotland. He lived his home in Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire, Scotland about 1776. William died about 1810 at the age of 77 in __________?. Jean KEIR and William TEMPLETON were married on 28 Oct 1761 in Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. 3. Jean KEIR was born about 1740 in Dalserf, Lanarkshire, Scotland. She died about 1810 at the age of 70 in __________?. William TEMPLETON and Jean KEIR had the following children: i. James TEMPLETON was born in 1762 in Scotland. He was baptized on 1 Nov 1762 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. He died about 1830 at the age of 68 in __________?. ii. Margaret TEMPLETON was baptized on 22 Apr 1764 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. She was born in 1764 in Scotland. She died about 1820 at the age of 56 in __________?. iii. Daniel TEMPLETON Sr. was baptized on 11 Mar 1766 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. He was born in 1766 in Scotland. He died about 1820 at the age of 54 in __________?. 1 iv. Jean TEMPLETON, born 1769, Lanark, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died abt 1840, Scotland. v. Mary TEMPLETON was baptized on 21 Mar 1772 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. She was born in 1772 in Scotland. She died about 1830 at the age of 58 in __________?. vi. William TEMPLETON was baptized on 11 Jan 1774 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. He was born in 1773/4 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. He died about 1830 at the age of 56 in __________?. vii. Janet TEMPLETON was baptized on 15 May 1776 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. She was born in 1776 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. She died about 1830 at the age of 54 in __________?. viii. John TEMPLETON was born in 1778 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. He was baptized on 21 Aug 1778 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. He died about 1830 at the age of 52 in __________?. ix. Thomas TEMPLETON was born in 1780 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. He was baptized on 28 Jul 1780 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. About 1810 he was a merchant in Crossford, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Thomas died in 1816 at the age of 36 in Crossford, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Third Generation 4. James TEMPLETON was born about 1695 in Scotland. He died about 1760 at the age of 65 in __________?. Jean MORTON and James TEMPLETON were married on 11 Aug 1716 in Dalserf, Lanarkshire, Scotland. 5. Jean MORTON was born about 1700 in Scotland. She died about 1770 at the age of 70 in __________?. James TEMPLETON and Jean MORTON had the following child: 2 i. William TEMPLETON, born 21 Jan 1732/3, Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died abt 1810, __________?.

I could have sworn I wasn't assuming, but I was. I assumed the children were William PURDIE's because they had his last name. But I just found the name of Ann HARVIE BOAG's first husband, (it was also William) and along with it a few children too. I'm so excited!!! Jeanne

Ah, Thankyou George, I hoped that a local would know the answer. :-) G Russell wrote: > The answer is ... in Carnwath ! > > The 'breakaway' from the Parish (established) Church of Scotland ... The > 'dissenting' Church (they objected to the Patronage Act which gave > landowners the right to choose the Minister). Families whose traditions > were typically with the earlier Covenanters became United Presbyterian, > both here and abroad ... > > The Church is still there, of course - ironically now the actual Parish > Church (of Scotland - post 1927). > > GGR >

> There were 457 people whose address in 1851 (on Ancestry) is > given as 'U > P Chapel Essa Michell Church", Carnwath so I doubt that it can > be a > transcription error & as some of them were gentry, employers > or > Independent, it can't have been a Workhouse. I'll try > Scotlands People. I suspect that the address thus transcribed is a single household, that the remaining ones are listed without an address at all, and that the transcriber (or the software) has assumed that the address applies to all the ones following it in in the enumeration district. The original image may shed some light on this, or it may not. Anne

The answer is ... in Carnwath ! The 'breakaway' from the Parish (established) Church of Scotland ... The 'dissenting' Church (they objected to the Patronage Act which gave landowners the right to choose the Minister). Families whose traditions were typically with the earlier Covenanters became United Presbyterian, both here and abroad ... The Church is still there, of course - ironically now the actual Parish Church (of Scotland - post 1927). GGR