Hi Patricia: I am enclosing a copy of our genealogy from Hugh and Anna Laird to about three generations. This eliminates the areas in question. In reference to my posting to the Cumberland County list, I think the topic was the Young family, my source for the genealogy information was Pennsylvania Genealogies, Author: William Henry Egle, Call Number: R929.1 E31, page 213 (See below), but the comments about the wills were from your newsletter, I posted your note so that the list would be aware of the possible problem with this record) The Rev. Mr. Montgomery was twice married; m., first, in 1765, ELIZABETH REED, d. March, 1769, daughter of Andrew and Sarah Reed, of Trenton, N. J., and they had issue: ii. Elizabeth, b. July 17, 1768; d. October 12, 1814, in Harrisburg, Pa.; m. Samuel Laird, b. at Carlisle, Pa., 15th February, 1769, son of Samuel Laird (1732-1806) and Mary Young, (1741-1833,) daughter of James Young. His father was for many years one of the provincial magistrates of Cumberland county, and, under the Constitution of 1776, one of the justices of the courts. Mr. Laird received a classical education, studied law at Carlisle, and was admitted to the Dauphin county bar at the September term, 1792. He located at Harrisburg, and soon secured a large and successful practice. In the early years of the borough he took an active part in its local affairs, and was a prominent actor in the first decade of its history. He died at Harrisburg, Pa., January 15, 1815. Pat here is the revised, revised copy of my genealogy report starting with Hugh Laird. I do have a problem with the birth date of Hugh being before 1737, My James was born in 1753, usually there is a 20 - 25 gap between generations. The date 1736 would be about right for Hugh to be the father of my James???? But...Williams deposition states that his father sent Hugh Laird, a son up to the Swatara. This was dated 1737. Lets suppose Hugh was 18 - in 1737, that would make him 34 or 36 when James was born. Not impossible, but it does put a question in my mind. Where can I write for a copy of the disposition of William Laird? This seems to be a critical document. Sorry about the date errors, they are purged for right now. I most certainly am looking forward to your article on this line. hope this hasn't held you back too much. Tena McDowell Hanna Descendants of Hugh Laird Generation No. 1 1. HUGH2 LAIRD (JAMES1) was born in Allen Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, and died November 09, 1801 in Allen Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. He married ANNA. She was born Abt. 1740 in Ireland, and died Bef. December 28, 1809 in Allen Township, Cumberland County, PAPennsylvania. Children of HUGH LAIRD and ANNA are: 2. i. JAMES3 LAIRD, b. December 12, 1753, West Pennsboro Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. October 10, 1834, Newville, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. ii. ARTHUR LAIRD, b. Abt. 1762, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. 3. iii. JANE LAIRD, b. Abt. 1766, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. 4. iv. STEWART LAIRD, b. Abt. 1768, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. Juniata County, Pennsylvania. v. WILLIAM LAIRD, b. Abt. 1770, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. vi. SAMUEL LAIRD. Generation No. 2 2. JAMES3 LAIRD (HUGH2, JAMES1) was born December 12, 1753 in West Pennsboro Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died October 10, 1834 in Newville, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. He married (1) JANE MCCLURE Abt. 1786 in Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, daughter of ROBERT MCCLURE and MARGARET DOUGLAS. She was born August 19, 1763 in West Pennsboro Township, Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania, and died Bef. 1802 in Frankford, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. He married (2) CATHARINE ALLEN May 1802 in Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She was born June 1764 in Baltimore, Maryland, and died January 15, 1850 in Frankford, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. Children of JAMES LAIRD and JANE MCCLURE are: i. HUGH4 LAIRD, b. January 08, 1787, Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. September 30, 1815, Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. ii. ROBERT LAIRD, b. November 11, 1788, Frankford, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. January 15, 1848, Frankford, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. 5. iii. MARGARET LAIRD, b. December 09, 1790, West Pennsboro, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. May 30, 1855, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. iv. ANNA LAIRD, b. December 10, 1791, Frankford, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. September 17, 1867, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; m. (1) JAMES LOGAN, March 23, 1824, Carlisle, Pennsylvania; b. 1782; d. October 26, 1828, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; m. (2) JAMES DAVIDSON, April 15, 1831; b. 1790, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. September 27, 1858, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. v. THOMAS LAIRD, b. April 20, 1794, Frankford, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. April 19, 1830, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. vi. JANE LAIRD, b. July 26, 1797. vii. JAMES LAIRD, b. July 26, 1797; d. July 31, 1797. Children of JAMES LAIRD and CATHARINE ALLEN are: viii. MARY4 LAIRD, b. Aft. 1802. ix. JOHN LAIRD, b. Aft. 1803. 3. JANE3 LAIRD (HUGH2, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1766 in Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. She married WILLIAM MCMEEN. Children of JANE LAIRD and WILLIAM MCMEEN are: i. ANN4 MCMEEN. ii. GRIZZEL MCMEEN. 4. STEWART3 LAIRD (HUGH2, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1768 in Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died in Juniata County, Pennsylvania. Children of STEWART LAIRD are: i. WILSON4 LAIRD. ii. PRISCILLA LAIRD, m. HUSBAND ROBINSON. iii. THOMAS LAIRD. iv. HUGH LAIRD. v. SAMUEL LAIRD. Generation No. 3 5. MARGARET4 LAIRD (JAMES3, HUGH2, JAMES1) was born December 09, 1790 in West Pennsboro, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died May 30, 1855 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She married JOHN MCDOWELL March 12, 1818 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, son of JOHN MCDOWELL and MARGARET HUTTON. He was born November 13, 1778 in West Pennsboro, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, and died June 29, 1829 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. Children of MARGARET LAIRD and JOHN MCDOWELL are: 6. i. MARGARET5 MCDOWELL, b. June 29, 1819, Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. ii. JANE MCDOWELL, b. January 23, 1821, West Pennsboro Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. February 19, 1892, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. iii. JOHN MCDOWELL, b. November 30, 1822; d. July 27, 1857, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. iv. MARY MCDOWELL, b. October 04, 1824, West Pennsboro, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. August 12, 1880, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. 7. v. JAMES LAIRD MCDOWELL, b. October 29, 1826, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. December 21, 1904, Elkton, Colorado. vi. SAMUEL ALEXANDER MCDOWELL, b. October 20, 1828, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. January 03, 1887, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; m. HESTER MCCLELLAN, September 12, 1860, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; b. Abt. 1830, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pa; d. Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. Generation No. 4 6. MARGARET5 MCDOWELL (MARGARET4 LAIRD, JAMES3, HUGH2, JAMES1) was born June 29, 1819 in Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She married ISAIAH GRAHAM MACFARLANE January 01, 1845, son of JOHN MACFARLANE and MARTHA GRAHAM. He was born in Perry County, Pennsylvania, and died in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Children of MARGARET MCDOWELL and ISAIAH MACFARLANE are: i. ELIZABETH6 MACFARLANE, b. April 03; m. JAMES I. BUCHANAN. ii. JOHN FINLEY MACFARLANE, b. October 22, 1845; d. Abt. 1874. iii. ANNA MARY MACFARLANE, b. September 25, 1847; m. ELIAKIM TORRANCE, September 22, 1868. iv. JAMES GRAHAM MACFARLANE, b. December 02, 1848. v. MARGARET LAIRD MACFARLANE, b. April 18, 1851; m. JOHN MITCHELL PATTERSON, October 29, 1874. vi. MARTHA ALICE MACFARLANE, b. June 14, 1853; d. May 15, 1889. vii. SAMUEL STARRETT MACFARLANE, b. April 22, 1860; m. IDA WILLET, June 27, 1887. 7. JAMES LAIRD5 MCDOWELL (MARGARET4 LAIRD, JAMES3, HUGH2, JAMES1) was born October 29, 1826 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, and died December 21, 1904 in Elkton, Colorado. He married (1) MARY ISABELLA BLEAN August 12, 1862 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, daughter of ROBERT BLEAN and MARGARET SCOULLER. She was born March 07, 1836 in Pennsylvania, and died February 12, 1865 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, 28 years 11 months 5 days. He married (2) DORCAS ROSELINA COLLINS October 10, 1867, daughter of DAVID COLLINS and MARY MANIFOLD. She was born October 22, 1837 in Pennsylvania, and died July 26, 1894 in Manhattan, Riley County, Kansas. Children of JAMES MCDOWELL and MARY BLEAN are: i. MARGARET LAIRD6 MCDOWELL, b. July 29, 1863, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. April 07, 1884, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, 20 year 8 months and 8 days. ii. ROBERT BLEAN MCDOWELL, b. January 25, 1865, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. February 01, 1865, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. Children of JAMES MCDOWELL and DORCAS COLLINS are: iii. RALPH EWING6 MCDOWELL, b. October 01, 1868, Leavenworth, Kansas; d. August 12, 1902, Fort Clark, Texas. iv. JAMES LAIRD MCDOWELL JR., b. May 30, 1871, Nortonville, Jefferson County, Kansas; d. Abt. 1951, Tucson, Pima County, Arizona; m. TENA WAYNE KNOX, January 03, 1899; b. November 23, 1873, Clyde, Cloud County, Kansas; d. December 12, 1963, Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona. v. DAVID COLLINS MCDOWELL, b. April 09, 1873, Nortonville, Jefferson County, Kansas; d. May 26, 1949, Billings, Montana; m. ELIZABETH LEE STINGLEY, March 1899, Cripple Creek, Colorado; d. Billings, Montana. vi. ROSE EDITH MCDOWELL, b. March 20, 1875, Nortonville, Jefferson County, Kansas; d. 1966, Freemont, California; m. GEORGE HELDER, November 16, 1914, Victor, Colorado; b. October 29, 1872; d. 1942. vii. SAMUEL ALEXANDER MCDOWELL, b. April 14, 1877, Nortonville, Jefferson County, Kansas; d. May 23, 1959, Billings, Montana; m. DAISY DAY, October 16, 1912, Onaga, Kansas; b. October 15, 1876, Onaga, Kansas; d. April 19, 1982, Billings, Montana. viii. GEORGE GARFIELD MCDOWELL, b. May 18, 1879, Nortonville, Jefferson County, Kansas; d. Russia; m. TONY, Unknown, George Married in Russia, his old mother-in-law was a baptist--unhappy; b. Russia. ix. EDWARD PURCELL MCDOWELL, b. January 12, 1882, Nortonville, Jefferson County, Kansas; d. February 02, 1949, Billings, Montana; m. FREDIA PATTERSON. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PLairdhoward@aol.com> To: <LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: [LAIRD] Tena's genealogy > Tena, > I still see problems. The deposition of William Laird states that his > father sent Hugh Laird a son up to the Swatara. This date was about > 1737 which means that the birth date for Hugh Laird is wrong. The younger > James Laird left a will that was probated 22 December 1741, you have his > birth date as abt 1769. You have Matthew Laird born 1755 while the > first James Laird died before 14 Feb 1737 when Jane Laird the widow > of James Laird received a warrant for land in Derry Township so Matthew > couldn't have been born after 1737. You have Samuel Laird listed as the > son of Samuel Laird and Mary Young. The will of both Samuel and Mary > Young Laird indicate that they died without issue. > Please don't get frustrated. I think the article in the next issue will > clear up a lot of problems with this line. Would you mind just sticking > with your direct line for the earliest known Laird ancestor? I do not have > the proper time to clear up all the problems now. This is why my my > brother and I are writing the article for the next newsletter. > However, I can't start on it until I get the earliest known Laird ancestor > newsletter finished. > As for printed biographies, they are just like any other > secondary source: They can have errors and must be proven by > primary sources. When I place a biography from a printed history in > the newsletter that has an error that I am aware of, I print a note below > the written material to correct the error and list my source. This is what > I did in the newsletter when I posted material that named Samuel Laird > and wife Mary Young as the parents of Samuel Laird. I placed a paragraph > below the material indicating that the will of both Samuel Laird and his wife > Mary indicated that they died without issue. You have seen this material > because you quoted my note directly from the newsletter onto the Cumberland > list. I will be gone part of the day and will talk to you this afternoon. > Take > care. > > Sincerely, > Patricia Laird Howard > > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > List problem or question? > e-mail Russell Laird at rlaird@1starnet.com > >