Hi Patricia....Wow!!! The info that has been coming thru on the Lairds is amazing...I have been looking for my info but it has still eluded me in my search. James K. Laird and Amanda Paup....I believe were my Grandmother's Grandparents. My Mothers middle name was Amanda [ Lura Amanda ]. I never thought about it before, but she must have been given her Great Grandmothers name. I wish I would have known about this before. She died about 4 years ago. Time flies so fast. I have alot of old photos and my even have some of them. I have a picture of David Laird and several of Louisa his wife. I know that he was a blacksmith and have pictures of the old blacksmith shop and their house in Alpine, Pa. They were torn down when Pinchot Park was built. My Grandmother used to say that they would never be able to have a lake there...There was not enough water there....Was she surprised when she saw the lake. Not all of the pictures have names on them and I am the only one now I guess who can even guess who they might be. I am 5 years older than my brothers and they don't know any of the Lairds, or the Boyds, or the Spanglers. I would like to trace back on the Boyd side, as well as the Lairds. They also come from Scotland and Ireland. The Spanglers come from Germany. I was married to the Loscherts. I believe them to be German Jews who converted to Christianity. Losch is Jewish...the 'ert' added later perhaps. I love history....and wish I could learn more about my ancestors. I have a book at home that shows where the Lairds and the Boyds lived in IRELAND. I will try to remember to bring it in. If you are interested I could probably fax you copies of the maps in it so the locations were more evident. Thanks for the info....Loie -----Original Message----- From: PLairdhoward@aol.com [mailto:PLairdhoward@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 8:27 AM To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAIRD-L] James K. Laird The following information is for my new cousin in California. Due to my change of servers, I no longer have your e-mail address. I want to let you know that I intend to include information on James K. Laird in the October LFA newsletter. For now, this is the source for James K. Laird not being the son of Reuben Laird's wife Elizabeth. Sarah King, born 6 July 1810, York County, PA., was the daughter of Philip King and Maria Lefever of York County, PA. and 1st wife of Reuben Laird, who married 2nd Elizabeth -----. This first marriage produced two children: James K. Laird who married Amanda Paup, and Mary Ann Laird who married Henry Brownwell. "6 Nov 1849. Orphans Court Docket W, page 629, York County, PA. Sarah King Petition. James Laird a minor son of Reuben Laird and grandson of Philip and Mary King and Mary Ann Laird daughter of said Reuben and granddaughter of Philip and Mary King both over the age of fourteen years, entitled to about $400.00 each out of the estate of their Grandmother. They ask the court to appoint David Hobaugh of Warrington T. their guardian, the said father not desiring to act as guardian of the estates." Source: "From York To Gettysburg, Volume 1, Number 4, 15 November 1996, pg 19, by Patricia Laird Howard." Sincerely, Your Cousin Patricia ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== Laird Resource Page: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/l/a/LAIRD/