We need to get some census information, marriage records etc from Kentucky. Sounds like a few of us have a connection there... does anyone out there have access to such information?? In a message dated 10/19/99 11:37:10 PM Central Daylight Time, rlaird@cavediver.com writes: << ><< Hezekiah and Patsey (Carter) Laird. > Hezekiah and Patsey were married in 1817 in Barren Co., KY. >> >do you know of other Laird relatives in KY? All I know is that John LARD and >Nancy MONTGOMERY LARD (Laird) were married in Kentucky, then moved to >Fredericktown (or thereabouts), Missouri in time for the 1850 Census. My >family descends from them.... To add to a possible Kentucky link... my g-g-grandfather, Archibald, is supposed to have been born in Kentucky, March 22, 1816, d. 11/17/1884. The 1850 census shows his state of birth as KY, but that's all I know. He married Malinda Graham (b 1824, d 1872). >>

At 11:34 PM 10/19/1999 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 10/19/99 7:54:01 PM Central Daylight Time, skline@idir.net >writes: > ><< Hezekiah and Patsey (Carter) Laird. > Hezekiah and Patsey were married in 1817 in Barren Co., KY. >> >do you know of other Laird relatives in KY? All I know is that John LARD and >Nancy MONTGOMERY LARD (Laird) were married in Kentucky, then moved to >Fredericktown (or thereabouts), Missouri in time for the 1850 Census. My >family descends from them.... To add to a possible Kentucky link... my g-g-grandfather, Archibald, is supposed to have been born in Kentucky, March 22, 1816, d. 11/17/1884. The 1850 census shows his state of birth as KY, but that's all I know. He married Malinda Graham (b 1824, d 1872). -- Robert +--------------------------------------------+ | qcsi-Systems * Houston * Texas | | http://www.concentric.net/~rlaird/ | | (713) 260-6586 work (713)467-4135 fax | | (713) 503-2949 cell/pager | +--------------------------------------------+

Hi! If we can post queries here, I'm looking for information on Elizabeth Laird Jones Crabb, and her parents Hezekiah and Patsey (Carter) Laird. Hezekiah and Patsey were married in 1817 in Barren Co., KY. Thank you! Sherry Kline

In a message dated 10/19/99 7:54:01 PM Central Daylight Time, skline@idir.net writes: << Hezekiah and Patsey (Carter) Laird. Hezekiah and Patsey were married in 1817 in Barren Co., KY. >> do you know of other Laird relatives in KY? All I know is that John LARD and Nancy MONTGOMERY LARD (Laird) were married in Kentucky, then moved to Fredericktown (or thereabouts), Missouri in time for the 1850 Census. My family descends from them....

This posting includes a query that appeared in a Baton Rouge, LA publication some years back. An elderly Aunt found it in one of her cook books this week. Laird Family query Adam Larid, who fathered at least 14 children, died in Barnwell Conubty, S. C., in 1828. Several of his children migrated to southeast Mississippi. Among the children known are: Mary, who married David Cochran; Sarah, who married Wiley Cowart; Rachel, who married Eli Stringfellow; Talitha, who married William Armstrong; William; John, who married Sarah (maiden name unknown); Margaret, who married a Carroll; Adam;, who married Sultana Chapman; and Susannah, who married Jesse Cowart. It is probable that Adam was a son of a Pennsylvania Revoluntionary War soldier, who migrated to Camden District, S. C. Adam's wife called Lucretia in 1828, but in an 1812 deed record, she is referred to as Margaret. Henry and Joseph Laird are associated with Adam in South Carolina. Pat Edwards, 1765 Silverado Trail, Napa, CA 94558, wants information on ancestors of Adam and his wife. Best Regards, Byron Clay Ainsworth Baton Rouge, LA

Thought I'd start posting these notices of new Laird messages on GenConnect to the list. The following URL will take you there: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/l/a/LAIRD/queries ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 06:36:33 -0700 To: rlaird@1starnet.com From: admin@SEE.MESSAGE.FOR.ADDRESS Subject: New LAIRD Queries Post LAIRD Queries A new message, "Ferrill/Laird," was posted by S.J. Laird on Mon, 18 Oct 1999 It is a response to "Ferrill," posted by nterry on Sun, 17 Oct 1999 Surname: Laird, Ferrel, Smith, Mackey, Perkins --- NAME: S.J. Laird EMAIL: sjwrest@swbell.net DATE: Oct 18 1999 QRYTEXT: Ketron A. Lard/Laird m. Anne Smith 5 Feb, 1852, Pike co. Missouri. Emily Jane Ferrel m. Ketron A. Lard/Laird 2 May 1858. Ketron was th son of Isaac Lard. M432, Roll 395. Chariton Co. Missouri 5th Novermber 1850, John G. Treadway, Asst. Marshall Page 225. Brunswick Township. 880 880 David Laird, age 43, Farmer, 2700, VA. John Laird, age 39, male Farmer, 1800, VA. Buvasen Laird, age 34, female, Ky Robert, age 8, male, Missouri, attending school Samuel, age 7, male Missouri, attending school Jane age 6, female Missouri, attending school. James age 3, male, Missouri. Check out the Laird Family Association, doesn't cost to join. Shirley

Dear Laird Researchers, I am seeking information about Sarah C. LAIRD born in Virginia 6 Sept. 1804, married to Jonathan BENTON living in Williamsburg Hunningdon or Berks County. Sarah died after 1849. Her son David Henry was a soldier in the Civil War. Sarah LAIRD and Jonathan BENTON had 12 children: George W., Eleanor, Elizabeth, Jonathan, Margaret, May or Mary, David Henry, Jesse L., Martha, Sarah Catherine, Zacharias. They were all born in Hunningdon> Blair County, PA. Please e mail me lwoods@nb.net Thank you.

Can anyone help karkim@rosenet.net ? ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Send reply to: <karkim@rosenet.net> From: "Karolyn Black" <karkim@rosenet.net> To: <LAIRD-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com> Subject: LAIRD,ISABELLA I am researching Isabella Laird daughter of Mathew Laird, his father is Col William Laird who married Rosanna Gatson. They are from Scotland. Isabella Laird married a James Black. He died 1837 in Lewisburg,Union, Pa. She died 1847/1849 in Buffalo, Pa. E-mail me at karkim@rosenet.net

INSLaird@cs.com wrote: > > I have found quite a useful Clan Map at the following URL: > "http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~gatti/gabaldon/clanmap.html" > With so many places mentioned in our discussion groups and with so much > history revealed, a map can often bring things into focus. It certainly > serves to explain why Lairds in Caithness would seek to support the Sinclairs > (along with the better known local families, Budges, Clynes, Linklaters, > Lyalls and Masons). > > Yours aye > > Iain > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > List archive search engines? See resource page at: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/l/a/LAIRD/ IAIN: I checked out your map of the Clans, and was very impressed. My other half is a Laird and My grandfather's family were Gordon's. The Laird side I have with help traced to 1789 in Kentucky, right now I am at a standstill on this side. The Gordon's I have back to 1805 in Missouri. Somehow I will get across the pond with these various ancesters, but sometimes you get bogged down with information. Thank you for all the info you have posted on email, as I print all of it out for future reference. Shirley

Hi Ian, I think that the Sinclair Laird shown on the grave stone is probably related to my two Sinclair Lairds...if I read the death date correctly on the grave stone as 1888...that is close to the time periods of my Sinclair Lairds... I've been told that Sinclair Laird is not a common name and the database that you mentioned to me earlier apparently registered only 4 Sinclair Lairds (I forget what time frame you mentioned). Since I already have two of them in my line and because the children were named after the parents....it makes me believe this Sinclair Laird could be the 3rd in my line and my g-g-g-g-g grandfather. Do you have any more information on him....children or wife's names? My oldest Sinclair Laird was born 1842-1845 in Wick ....son of John Laird (no info on him) - died 1910 at Hempriggs, Parish of Wick - married Jane Laird - children Jeffrrey S, Jessie C., Lizzie I., Hannah, Mary Ann My next Sinclair McKay Laird was born 1867 in Wick ...son of Sinclair Laird..... - married May Leith - children John, Alexanderina and Mary - died May 29, 1934 in Olrig Also my great aunt, May Leith (18 unmarried) worked as a servent for John Sinclair (31 unmarried) and his sister Lizzie Sinclair and John's stepmother Janet Sinclair (Janet and Lizzie both born at Canisbay). So I can see how the Laird/Sinclair lines could have become interwoven. May Leith was ...... - born August 19, 1862 in Wick - died September 15, 1934 in Olrig - daughter of Charlies and Janet (m/s Steven) Barb Campbell Supply Management Phone (403) 314-8459, Fax (403) 314-8411 E-mail CAMPBEBL@NOVACHEM.COM > The opinions expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those > of NOVA Chemicals. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INSLaird@cs.com [SMTP:INSLaird@cs.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 4:00 AM > To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LAIRD-L] Family History Project Update > > I have added a new web page with photos of Canisbay Kirk, the Kirkyard and > > views of Canisbay and Duncansby, all Sinclair Country in Caithness, but > where > Lairds were also to be found. The photos include the flagstone of Sinclair > > Laird of West Canisbay House. The URL is > http://ourworld.cs.com/LairdFHP/Photos.htm. I have also added Canisbay > Kirk > records and my Laird IGI database (from our Caithness origins) and Census > > information to our main site at http://ourworld.cs.com/INSLaird. Both are > > linked, but I have a little difficulty with the linking through > Compuserve, > which is why I provide both URLs. I have now used up my 2 mb of space on > both sites - photos are memory hungry! I hope this information will be > useful for other contributors. > > Yours aye > > Iain Laird > > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > Laird Resource Page: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/l/a/LAIRD/

Dear Barb Thanks for your feedback. This is all the information I have at present - did you check my IGI page from the Caithness Origins page? West Canisbay House is some distance from Hempriggs, though - being on the North Coast between John O'Groats and Thurso, while Hempriggs is close to Wick on the East coast. The date is 1883. Glad to be of a help and a pleasure to share information with you. Yours aye Iain

I have added a new web page with photos of Canisbay Kirk, the Kirkyard and views of Canisbay and Duncansby, all Sinclair Country in Caithness, but where Lairds were also to be found. The photos include the flagstone of Sinclair Laird of West Canisbay House. The URL is http://ourworld.cs.com/LairdFHP/Photos.htm. I have also added Canisbay Kirk records and my Laird IGI database (from our Caithness origins) and Census information to our main site at http://ourworld.cs.com/INSLaird. Both are linked, but I have a little difficulty with the linking through Compuserve, which is why I provide both URLs. I have now used up my 2 mb of space on both sites - photos are memory hungry! I hope this information will be useful for other contributors. Yours aye Iain Laird

I copy a message I have just posted. I think "Fat Finger Frank" will appreciate the problem! Yours aye Iain Subj: Lairds If anyone else was as confused as my Wife when reading my message yesterday where it says "whose whoms" can I explain it was an unusual typo for "whose homes"? Thanks to all of you for your kind acknowledgement of the support for the Sinclair Clan of those of Sinclair descent but not surname and those who are so closely associated. We have a great thing going for us all! Let's keep it moving! Yours aye Iain Laird

Dear Cousins I thought you would be interested in further correspondence relating to the question "What is a Laird? Thought this was the Sinclair List." Yours aye Iain Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 20:41:35 +0100 From: Niven Sinclair <niven@niven.co.uk> Subject: Lairds If we look at the names of those who have contributed most to the Sinclair cause, you will find few Sinclairs but a great many paragenetic Sinclairs. It may be folly to begin naming them but can we begin with the late Jim Whittall and Pete Cummings? And go on to our ex-President (Bouschor) and our present President (Barker) and our genealogist (Server) and our Clan historian (Fechner) and our great educationist (Fowler) and that great Clan stalwart, Jean Grigsby and the hundreds of others who man Sinclair tents in every State of America and every Province of Canada. We owe them a great debt just as we owe you John Sinclair Quarterman a big thank you for your patience, perseverance and persistence. And, as for the Lairds, they have done us proud with their presence and support in Caithness and in Norway. We would all be weaker without the involvement of such people. They are more than kin. They are friends. My friends. Your friends. Our friends. Let us welcome them as such. Let us also thank God that we have such people on our side. Let us be worthy of THEM. Niven Sinclair - ---------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:12:01 EDT From: DSinc39156@aol.com Subject: Re: Lairds Niven, once again you have brought a smile to my face. I doubt if you remenber this but, I wrote a letter to Ian Sutherland of Wick, asking a question about the Sinclair family from Hempriggs House. Mr. Sutherland sent the letter to our friend, Ian Sinclair, who then sent it to you. You in turn sent it to Ian Laird. It was Ian Laird who was able to answer my questions. As it turns out, there were also Lairds who hailed from Hempriggs. Ian Laird is as much part of our family as I am. Donald Sinclair (Indianapolis) [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html - ----------------------------

>WHAT IS A LAIRD? I THOUGHT THIS WAS A SINCLAIR LIST? > > >Dear Henderson/Sinclair Clansperson > >As GaryD suggests, please look at John Sinclair Quarterman's Website >"www.mids.org/sinclair/". Actually, he suggested the Clan Sinclair U.S.A. web pages, which you can find through the U.S. flag front and center in the URL you list above. Or select Groups in the left navbar, and you will find links to U.S., plus Laird, plus Clan Gunn. > On the front page your will find a hyperlink >"Laird" which will take you through to a note from me that explains our link >to the Clan. > >All Clans have "Septs", families with surnames distinct from the Clan name >but nonetheless closely associated. Some families had to change their >surnames following the suppression of the Clans following the 1745 Rebellion. > Henderson is a Sept of the Clan Gunn (see >"http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/dtog/gunn.html", I've added that link to the three others already in the Clan Gunn page under Groups (see above). > and the Gunns >have, as you say, always been closely associated with the Clan Sinclair. The >Westford Knight in Connecticut, part of the evidence of Prince Henry >Sinclair's voyage to the New World, is thought to be Sir James Gunn. The >Drumhead Pardon from Flodden was carried to Caithness by a Gunn drummer boy. > >The Septs of Sinclair include the surnames of Budge, Clyne, Lyall, Linklater >and Mason, and the Sinclairs as the main Clan of Caithness can count on the >support, as Gary says, of all the families of Caithness origin. This includes >a small family of Lairds, also of Norse origin, overlooked until relatively >recently, whose whoms were on Sinclair land. There is a Laird Family >Association, to whom we also post, The issue of crossposting to sinclair@mids.org has been raised. It's not a good idea as a regular practice. However, it is occasionally appropriate for announcements of basic context with pointers to where else to look, and that seems to be what you have been crossposting, so I for one have no objection to your postings. > which shares knowledge specifically to >Lairds principally from the south of Scotland and Ireland, but it has little >knowledge of Caithness, which is where my family comes from. In my website >(http://ourworld.cs.com/inslaird/) I explain the conventional sources and >what my family knows of its background. The Sinclair Discussion group is a >wonderful place to exchange and share information and recover lost history >and is the premier source of information on Caithness and our Norse roots. I >have found it of incredible help in developing an understanding of our roots, >and I hope others will too, through the contributions of a very special and >well informed group of people. The Sinclair Discussion Group has, therefore, >become much more than a place to discuss the genealogy of those fortunate to >bear the family name Sinclair, though this remains the core of our identity. The Sinclair Discussion List has never been limited solely to genealogy; look under Discussion List in http://www.mids.org/sinclair/ for its intro. (There have been requests for a genealogy-only Sinclair list, which does exist, courtesy of Gary M. Sinclair; look under Genealogy List.) >There is a tremendous renaissance taking place in the Sinclair Clan at >present. Our Chief has set us all the task of preserving our heritage with >the Sinclair and Girnigoe Castles Trust. And we are very proud, with our >Clan Chief, Malcolm Caithness's permission, to wear the Sinclair Tartan and >Badge, and look forward to participating in next year's Millennium Gathering >at his command. > >I hope I have explained the posting! > >Yours aye > >Iain Laird, a Sinclair Follower John Sinclair Quarterman <jsq@mids.org>, list maintainer, sinclair@mids.org

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:49:45 -0700 From: "DOTY_CARSTENSEN" <DOTY_CARSTENSEN@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: W T Laird's 1888 Letter on the Origin of the Laird's? WHAT IS A LAIRD? I THOUGHT THIS WAS A SINCLAIR LIST? Dear Henderson/Sinclair Clansperson As GaryD suggests, please look at John Sinclair Quarterman's Website "www.mids.org/sinclair/". On the front page your will find a hyperlink "Laird" which will take you through to a note from me that explains our link to the Clan. All Clans have "Septs", families with surnames distinct from the Clan name but nonetheless closely associated. Some families had to change their surnames following the suppression of the Clans following the 1745 Rebellion. Henderson is a Sept of the Clan Gunn (see "http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/dtog/gunn.html", and the Gunns have, as you say, always been closely associated with the Clan Sinclair. The Westford Knight in Connecticut, part of the evidence of Prince Henry Sinclair's voyage to the New World, is thought to be Sir James Gunn. The Drumhead Pardon from Flodden was carried to Caithness by a Gunn drummer boy. The Septs of Sinclair include the surnames of Budge, Clyne, Lyall, Linklater and Mason, and the Sinclairs as the main Clan of Caithness can count on the support, as Gary says, of all the families of Caithness origin. This includes a small family of Lairds, also of Norse origin, overlooked until relatively recently, whose whoms were on Sinclair land. There is a Laird Family Association, to whom we also post, which shares knowledge specifically to Lairds principally from the south of Scotland and Ireland, but it has little knowledge of Caithness, which is where my family comes from. In my website (http://ourworld.cs.com/inslaird/) I explain the conventional sources and what my family knows of its background. The Sinclair Discussion group is a wonderful place to exchange and share information and recover lost history and is the premier source of information on Caithness and our Norse roots. I have found it of incredible help in developing an understanding of our roots, and I hope others will too, through the contributions of a very special and well informed group of people. The Sinclair Discussion Group has, therefore, become much more than a place to discuss the genealogy of those fortunate to bear the family name Sinclair, though this remains the core of our identity. There is a tremendous renaissance taking place in the Sinclair Clan at present. Our Chief has set us all the task of preserving our heritage with the Sinclair and Girnigoe Castles Trust. And we are very proud, with our Clan Chief, Malcolm Caithness's permission, to wear the Sinclair Tartan and Badge, and look forward to participating in next year's Millennium Gathering at his command. I hope I have explained the posting! Yours aye Iain Laird, a Sinclair Follower

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If anyone is interested, I have set out W T Laird's Letter of 31st December 1888 (with reference to its source) together with the College of Arms' reply to our inquiry on our website: "http://ourworld.cs.com/INSLaird/". The URL for the letter is "http://ourworld.cs.com/inslaird/1888_Letter.htm". Though the supposed German origin of the family is discounted as is the alleged genealogy found in "Chancery", there is much that is factually correct in the letter that is relevant to Lairds and Sinclairs alike. I have set links to some of the factual accuracies from our "Origins of the Surname Laird" page at "http://ourworld.cs.com/inslaird/Origins.htm". Yours aye Iain

Hi Sherry - "aye" is pronounced "I" or "ai" as in "tailor" and is Scots for "ever" - the US Clan Sinclair Magazine is called "Yours Aye"! Yours aye Iain

>Hi Sherry! I am just in Mumbai (formerly Bombay) for a few days business - >back in the UK on Thursday. There are still a few Scots names are here, but >no Lairds yet! > >Yours aye > >Iain Hello again, Iain, And now I've another question for you! I'm American, so I'm not sure what "Yours aye" means, nor how the aye should be rightly pronounced. Thank you! Sherry