Greetings all, I thought I sent this of a week ago, I must have posted it to the wrong list. My oldest Laird is : William F. Laird born June 06, 1858 in Madison Cty. NY. He married Margurite (Maggie) Casey born May 04, 1862 in County Cork, Ireland. My cousin is doing most of the research I have been unable to forward the list to her but will keep trying. William and Maggie had 9 children. How much detail can I post here? I have a gedcom file on myfamily.com. Anyone interested please let me know and I will add them to the member list. Thanks, I really enjoy this list. Darlene Rozelle rozelled@bigfoot.com Wisconsin PLairdhoward@aol.com wrote: > I have received the following earliest Laird ancestor submissions > since Feb 11. > > Jim Laird (jlaird@bellsouth.net) > Pat Jorgensen > Denise Miller > Jerome L. Phillips > Ann Elliott Flowers > Oweida Snodgrass > Hugh Laird > Leslie Thomas > Jeanne T. Lane > > This places our Laird submissions to 45. Please don't forget that the > deadline > for submissions is tonight. I will send the file to Robert tomorrow morning. > Also, I would like to thank all of you who have taken the time to write > about your earliest known Laird ancestor. It is people like you that make > the Laird Family Association so great! Keep up the good work. > > Sincerely, > Patricia Laird Howard > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > Laird Resource Page: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/l/a/LAIRD/

Dear Laird's, I am submitting this to Patricia, and to the list (I think). I just found this information today on microfilm in our cities' newspaper at the Wellington Kansas Public Library. I do not know the people mentioned, nor do I have any information about them other than what you see below. I have no reason to believe that they are any "close kin" of mine, but I'm sending this on hoping that it will help someone! Extracted from the Wellington Daily News at the Wellington, Kansas Public Library January 30, 1939 Marriages Two marriage cermonies were performed at the parsonage of the First Christian Church Saturday afternoon by the Reverend L. F. Sargent. Miss Patricia Laird and Lowell Brown, both of Ponca City, Oklahoma, were married at 3:00 o'clock. Miss Fannie Ruth Pyron, Oklahoma City and Roy McGuire of Bethany Oklahoma, were married at 1:00 o'clock. If any one is interested, or needs the information, I can check with the church here to see what information they might have. But here is the church's address, just in case anyone might need that instead: First Christian Church 123 W. 9th Wellington, Kansas 67152 (316) 326-2203 I hope this helps someone! Sherry Kline

At 09:54 PM 2/12/00 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 2/12/00 8:22:07 PM Central Standard Time, mjhanna@jps.net >writes: > ><< you feel my family tree is so flawed that it is unworthy to be published >> >Whoa... please, let's not get too personal here. My personal reaction would >have been (and I assume the intent was) to let Tena know that there are >errors. Is the point, you want to collect names, ANY names? Or you want the >correct ones? The majority of genealogists prefer the correct (or at least >darn close; sometimes a record can be a year off) date and name. > >To each his own; however, please don't attack Patricia for trying to help. >She is trying to make "our" newsletter as accurate (and therefore as least >frustrating) as possible for the rest of us doing research. > >Please, Tena, pull back and think that over. > >Bobbi > > >==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== >Laird Resource Page: >http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/l/a/LAIRD/ > >YOU lairds are such a bunch of bozos it is pathetic!!!! Knock off the kid stuff and get down to genealogy!!!!!!! Lou Carlson.

hello, My earliest known Laird is Fred Laird, he was a farmer, from Benton,IL. He was married to Sarah Paige(Page), also of Benton. I only Know of one child of Fred and Sarah, F.A.(first name is Fred also) Laird. F.A. was married to Edna Munday, also from Benton. I have no bieth dates or anything on Fred and Sarah. F.A. was born in 1887 - 1889. F.a. and Edna were married on Jan.28,1908. F.A. and Edna had twin sons born in July of 1910, one of which died at birth, the other being named Russell Webb Laird. Russell married Irma Marie Vaughn from Paragould, Ark. They had several children. Then in 1945, Russell left his family and was never heard from again. He was later found deceased in Chicago, IL. He had died in the 1970's. If anyone should happen to have any info. on this Laird line, it would be a blessing, as I have ran into brick walls every way I go in this particular search. Thank you, Jimmy Laird ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Miller" <denise@ns.net> To: <LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 11 February, 2000 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [LAIRD] Update on earliest Laird submissions > Please repost my earliest known Laird is Thomas W. Laird born about 1810 in > PA. He married Mary Elton Saffle in 1829. Their children (Elizabeth, John > A., James B., Isaac S., and Thomas W.) were born in Muskingum, Ohio. > James B. and Isaac S. moved to Atchison Co. KS, where they started their > families and are buried. > > Thanks, > Denise Miller > > > At 11:14 PM 2/10/2000 EST, you wrote: > > This is an updated list of earliest known Laird ancestors that I have > >received from Laird Family Association Members for the January issue > >of the LFA newsletter. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > List problem or question? > e-mail Russell Laird at rlaird@1starnet.com >

Dear Listers: With the first immigrant ancestor project in full swing, this is a good time to invite non-members to join the Laird Family Association. The only requirements for membership are an interest in learning more about your Laird ancestor and a willingness to share your information with other Laird researchers. All you have to do is let us know you are interested. We will be happy to add your name to the LFA membership list. Our best, Bob & Carolyn Laird Membership Chairmen LALAIRD@compuserve.com

Dear Laird researchers and Laird Family Association Members. I must apologize ahead of time for taking up your time with the following letter. It will be my only post regarding Tena's statement, and then I will let it drop. First, I would like to say that I would never, under any circumstances say or suggest to anyone that they may not post their information to the Laird Family Association newsletter. This newsletter belongs to every member of the Laird Family Association. At the same time I want everyone on this list to understand that I am a professional genealogist who takes my work seriously. When I work on a Laird newsletter, I am obligated to make sure that the newsletter is as accurate as possible. When I see an error, I have the responsibility of making sure that the error is corrected before I publish the newsletter. If I do not do this, then I am doing a disservice to you, the Laird Family Association and to my own professional reputation. Tena is working on the same family that I have researched for over 25 years, and I have spent quite a bit of time, and money gathering documented sources to verify this family. As I have already stated before, my brother and I will be posting an article on the Laird family of Derry Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania in the next newsletter. I will let the documented sources do the speaking. Most seasoned genealogists know that the family groupsheets submitted to the LDS church often contain errors and must be proven through follow up documentation. It is also true with the familytreemaker cd's that contain groupsheets submitted via gedcom files. It is a shame that she posted a letter that I sent to her in private to the Laird list so that everyone could read. Sincerely, Patricia Laird Howard

In a message dated 2/12/00 8:22:07 PM Central Standard Time, mjhanna@jps.net writes: << you feel my family tree is so flawed that it is unworthy to be published >> Whoa... please, let's not get too personal here. My personal reaction would have been (and I assume the intent was) to let Tena know that there are errors. Is the point, you want to collect names, ANY names? Or you want the correct ones? The majority of genealogists prefer the correct (or at least darn close; sometimes a record can be a year off) date and name. To each his own; however, please don't attack Patricia for trying to help. She is trying to make "our" newsletter as accurate (and therefore as least frustrating) as possible for the rest of us doing research. Please, Tena, pull back and think that over. Bobbi

Thank you so much for your reply. Laird folks must be the nicest anywhere. I'll bet we're cousins but I see no connection yet. -----Original Message----- From: Denise Miller <denise@ns.net> To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com <LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2000 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [LAIRD] Update on earliest Laird submissions >Please repost my earliest known Laird is Thomas W. Laird born about 1810 in >PA. He married Mary Elton Saffle in 1829. Their children (Elizabeth, John >A., James B., Isaac S., and Thomas W.) were born in Muskingum, Ohio. >James B. and Isaac S. moved to Atchison Co. KS, where they started their >families and are buried. > >Thanks, >Denise Miller > > >At 11:14 PM 2/10/2000 EST, you wrote: >> This is an updated list of earliest known Laird ancestors that I have >>received from Laird Family Association Members for the January issue >>of the LFA newsletter. >> >> >> >> > > >==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== >List problem or question? >e-mail Russell Laird at rlaird@1starnet.com > >

Patricia: I am so sorry that you feel my family tree is so flawed that it is unworthy to be published in "your" newsletter. This is fine with me. Tena McDowell Hanna ----- Original Message ----- From: <PLairdhoward@aol.com> To: <mjhanna@jps.net> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 9:08 AM Subject: James and Jane Laird > Tena, > > For the past 25 years my Laird research has focused around John Laird > and wife Agnes Black of Derry Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania > and their son Hugh Laird of York County, Pennsylvania. This research, and > the various docments I have gathered on the family seems to indicate that > John, Hugh, Samuel, Matthew, James and William Laird all stem from the same > branch of the Laird family that settled in Derry Township, Lancaster County, > Pennsylvania in the 1730's, sons of James Laird and wife Jane. > > I would like to point out that your posting on your 1st generation, the > descendants of James Laird and Jane, which was sent to me last August > is a direct quote of a family group sheet that was submitted about 1989 > to the LDS church by a Laird researcher. Unfortunately this family > group sheet has several errors, mostly relating to dates of birth. So please > review your most recent submission for the newsletter. I see two problems > that need to be addressed before posting your earliest Laird ancestor. > > First, you have James Laird listed as born about 1704. > The deposition of Capt William Laird indicates that when his parents arrived > in America about 1736, they discovered that their daughter Mary Snoddy had > recently been widowed and was about to marry again. This would indicate > that James Laird was a much older man than indicated by the birth date of > 1704. > > Second, you list Matthew Laird m 1st Rachel Wilkins, m 2nd Elizabeth, as > the son of Hugh Laird and wife Anna. What is your source for this Matthew > Laird being the son of Hugh Laird and wife Anna rather than the son of James > Laird and wife Jane? > > I will be working on the newsletter all day tomorrow so that it will be > ready > for posting on Sunday. Please let me know if you have any questions regarding > this letter. I think that the February issue of Laird Branches, which > will include the article on James and Jane Laird and their children will help > clear up any questions that you may have about the first generation of Lairds > in Derry Township, Lancaster County, PA. I will be checking my e-mail on > a regular basis all day tomorrow, and will await your reply. > > Sincerely, > Patricia >

I have been asked what type of information is acceptable for submission in the Laird Family Association Newsletter. Since this is a very important question, I thought that I would post my answer to the list. Any primary (original document) or secondary (information abstracted from an original document) source is acceptable for publication as long as it has a Laird connection. This information may include records pertaining to wills, deeds, orphan court dockets, birth, death or marriage records, family bible records, obituaries, census records, family histories, etc. The newsletter will also publish queries, earliest known Laird ancestors, family reunions, or any other information that relates to the Laird Family Association. When submitting the information to the newsletter, you must include your source. As an example, if you are submitting a brief history of your ancestor as it appears in a book, then you should include the title, author, publisher, copyright date, and page numbers on which the article appears. This will allow proper credit to the person who originally published the work. I believe that anyone submitting information to the LFA newsletter should be properly recognized for their kind deed, and personal support of the Laird Family Association. This is why all submissions will list the name and e-mail address of the person who submitted the information. This also allows other Laird researchers the opportunity to communicate with the submitter. You have two methods that you may use to submit your information. First, you may e-mail your information to me at my e-mail address plairdhoward@aol.com Second, you may send the information to my home address. Patricia Laird Howard 7254 S. Dennis Blvd. Broken Arrow, OK 74014 Sincerely, Patricia Laird Howard Newsletter Editor

I have received the following earliest Laird ancestor submissions since Feb 11. Jim Laird (jlaird@bellsouth.net) Pat Jorgensen Denise Miller Jerome L. Phillips Ann Elliott Flowers Oweida Snodgrass Hugh Laird Leslie Thomas Jeanne T. Lane This places our Laird submissions to 45. Please don't forget that the deadline for submissions is tonight. I will send the file to Robert tomorrow morning. Also, I would like to thank all of you who have taken the time to write about your earliest known Laird ancestor. It is people like you that make the Laird Family Association so great! Keep up the good work. Sincerely, Patricia Laird Howard

Please repost my earliest known Laird is Thomas W. Laird born about 1810 in PA. He married Mary Elton Saffle in 1829. Their children (Elizabeth, John A., James B., Isaac S., and Thomas W.) were born in Muskingum, Ohio. James B. and Isaac S. moved to Atchison Co. KS, where they started their families and are buried. Thanks, Denise Miller At 11:14 PM 2/10/2000 EST, you wrote: > This is an updated list of earliest known Laird ancestors that I have >received from Laird Family Association Members for the January issue >of the LFA newsletter. > > > >

Thank you so much for responding. I'm beginning to wonder whether there is any hope -----Original Message----- From: PLairdhoward@aol.com <PLairdhoward@aol.com> To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com <LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 11:19 PM Subject: [LAIRD] Update on earliest Laird submissions > This is an updated list of earliest known Laird ancestors that I have >received from Laird Family Association Members for the January issue >of the LFA newsletter. > >Jane Laird Richards >Doug Hanke >Gail Van Wye >Iain Laird >Audrey Ann Bennett >John Gould >Russell Laird >Sharon Seavers >Paul Laird >Ann Scamahorn >Bobbi Laird >Autumn Laird >Carol James >Donna Olsen >Heather A. Cottrell >Graeme Laird >Howard Edward Lane >Daphne Richey >Dorothy Baker >Mary Szymanowski >Ken Leaird >Robert Laird >Marilyn Johnson >Sherry Kline >Judy Fitch >Tena McDowell Hanna >Robert D. Leard >Samuel R. Leard >Sarah Galarza >Mark R. Gideon >Al Lard >Ellison D. Laird >Spencer Laird >Jim Laird > > If your name does not appear on this list then I do not have your >earliest known Laird ancestor for posting in the January issue >of Laird Branches. Please remember that the deadline for all >submissions is Saturday night. Please send your information to >plairdhoward@aol.com > >Sincerely, >Patricia Laird Howard > > >==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== >Laird Resource Page: >http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/l/a/LAIRD/ >

In a message dated 2/10/00 8:16:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, PLairdhoward@aol.com writes: << plairdhoward@aol.com >> Heather A. Cottrell's earliest ancestor and mine are the same, we have not been able to bet past there. Thanks Hugh Laird

This is an updated list of earliest known Laird ancestors that I have received from Laird Family Association Members for the January issue of the LFA newsletter. Jane Laird Richards Doug Hanke Gail Van Wye Iain Laird Audrey Ann Bennett John Gould Russell Laird Sharon Seavers Paul Laird Ann Scamahorn Bobbi Laird Autumn Laird Carol James Donna Olsen Heather A. Cottrell Graeme Laird Howard Edward Lane Daphne Richey Dorothy Baker Mary Szymanowski Ken Leaird Robert Laird Marilyn Johnson Sherry Kline Judy Fitch Tena McDowell Hanna Robert D. Leard Samuel R. Leard Sarah Galarza Mark R. Gideon Al Lard Ellison D. Laird Spencer Laird Jim Laird If your name does not appear on this list then I do not have your earliest known Laird ancestor for posting in the January issue of Laird Branches. Please remember that the deadline for all submissions is Saturday night. Please send your information to plairdhoward@aol.com Sincerely, Patricia Laird Howard

Found the following census entry among those listed on the Laird Family Association website at: http://www.qcsi.net/lfa M432, Roll 7, Jefferson County, Alabama. 22nd November 1850, L. G. McMillun, Asst. Marshall. Page 161B. Mud Creek Beat District No. 31. 143 143 Ashley H. Lard, age 34, male, Farmer, 300, NC. Mary, age 29, female, SC. Phelix M., age 6, male, Ala., school within year. Yelitha E., age 4, female, Ala. Margaret F., age 1, female, Ala. John W. Trimble, age 16, male, laborer, Ala. Russell > I can find no info on the parentage of my ancestor Andrew Hewitt Laird > 1816-1876--possibly born in NC. After Civil War, He lived in AL and died > there. He was referred to as Hewitt. Some accounts say he was named > Ashley.

(You have been successfully subbed to the list, and your posts should go directly to the list from now on.) ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:53:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Ted Steffen" <psteffen@worldnet.att.net> To: <LAIRD-L-Request@rootsweb.com> Subject: subscribe I can find no info on the parentage of my ancestor Andrew Hewitt Laird 1816-1876--possibly born in NC. After Civil War, He lived in AL and died there. He was referred to as Hewitt. Some accounts say he was named Ashley.

John Laird, b. ca. 1784 probably in Pennsylvania. Moved f rom Allegany Co., PA sometime before 1822 to Ross Co., Ohio. Died in the 1840's. Was a hatter. Had sons James Mc (Mc was his middle name), Jesse Wesley, and John. Daughters Mary Brown Laird and Rachel Cloud Laird. Married Pheobe Ford. Both buried in Chillicothe, Ohio. Mary Szymanowski PLairdhoward@aol.com wrote: > Hello Everyone, > I am trying to play catch up and would like to place a deadline > on submitting your earliest known Laird ancestor. If all of you > could have your submissions to me by next Saturday, I could > have the newsletter ready for posting to the web site on Sunday. > Once this newsletter is out of the way, I will have time to begin > the Feb issue. I am also behind on the Quarterly I publish and > at the same time am trying to work on my documentation for > membership in the DAR. So please bear with me. > > Sincerely, > Patricia Laird Howard > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > List problem or question? > e-mail Russell Laird at rlaird@1starnet.com PLairdhoward@aol.com wrote: > Hello Everyone, > I seem to have lost all e-mail postings that were dated Feb 6th. > These e-mail postings included earliest known Laird ancestors > submitted for the Laird Branches January issue. > Sorry for the inconvenience, but if your name does not appear on > the following list, then you will need to resubmit your information on > your earliest known Laird ancestor to me as soon as possible > using the following e-mail address: plairdhoward@aol.com > Please remember that the deadline for submission is Saturday night. > I will send a copy of the file to Robert on Sunday. > > I have copies of the earliest known Laird ancestor for the following > LFA members. > > Jane Laird Richards > Doug Hanke > Gail Van Wye > Iain Laird > Audrey Ann Bennett > John Gould > Russell Laird > Sharon Seavers > Paul Laird > Ann Scamahorn > Bobbi Laird > Autumn Laird > Carol James > Donna Olsen > Heather A. Cottrell > Graeme Laird > Howard Edward Lane > > Sincerely, > Patricia Laird Howard > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > List archive search engines? See resource page at: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/l/a/LAIRD/

Hello Everyone, I seem to have lost all e-mail postings that were dated Feb 6th. These e-mail postings included earliest known Laird ancestors submitted for the Laird Branches January issue. Sorry for the inconvenience, but if your name does not appear on the following list, then you will need to resubmit your information on your earliest known Laird ancestor to me as soon as possible using the following e-mail address: plairdhoward@aol.com Please remember that the deadline for submission is Saturday night. I will send a copy of the file to Robert on Sunday. I have copies of the earliest known Laird ancestor for the following LFA members. Jane Laird Richards Doug Hanke Gail Van Wye Iain Laird Audrey Ann Bennett John Gould Russell Laird Sharon Seavers Paul Laird Ann Scamahorn Bobbi Laird Autumn Laird Carol James Donna Olsen Heather A. Cottrell Graeme Laird Howard Edward Lane Sincerely, Patricia Laird Howard

** Forwarding to the list ** (Autumn: I've set the list to accept posts from your address as it appears in this message, along with the way it appears on the list of subscribers with the "wheeler" server name prepended to northland.edu. Shouldn't be a problem again. -- Russell) ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:45:06 -0800 (PST) From: Autumn Laird <LA2034@northland.edu> To: "'LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com'" <LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: {not a subscriber} Earliest Known Lairds Patricia and fellow Lairds, well this is my oldest ancestor that I have found information on with the help of Ronald Laird a distant cousin of mine. I would love to find any more people who know about my connections or colaborate with others who ran across some information. I have more information on Annie but not on the Laird side. Thanks so much, Autumn Laird Charles T. Laird born 1872 Illinois (Southern Illinois?) Married 31 October 1897 in Knoxville Mo. to Annie Vinsant daughter of John Wesley Vinsant and Lydia Ann Bailey Moved in 1901 to Webster County IA died 22 May 1958 Fort Dodge, IA Children Alma Laird d 23 Dec 1942 Mary Ester Laird Lydia Laird Jenny Laird m. Raymond Mayfield Virgil Emerson Laird b 1903 d 18 Feb 1984 m Grace Martin 24 Feb 1923 Wesley Charles Laird b 21 Jan 1910 d 1974 m Mary Ann Slawson 1936 I assume it is Southern Ill because of its nearness to Knoxville, Mo. I have no idea what his Fathers name was. I know that he had at least one brother, and one sister. I believe both the brother and sister died before he did in 1958.