Hi Sue, Martha Blair is mentioned in the will of John Leard of Cumberland Township, York (now Adams) County. will book B page 54 written May 20, 1766 John mentions his wife Martha, daughters Martha Blair and Mary Neelson, and sons John, William and Robert Jay Laird

Just to really muddy already dark waters, but also , perhaps, to send some of you in a completely different direction in "translation" raher than "spelling" I humbly offer the following "food for thought": the Irish Gaelic for the the family name 'Laird' has been known to be translated to Mac an Tiarna (teer; tear; tearr; tearre; and so on.) Thus we now have the common name Macateer, Macteer, Mactierny, and even the the dropping of the prefix Mac to become Tierney (as in Gene ?) and sundry variations. The "mac" means 'son, "an"(for this purpose means 'of' and Tiarna means landlord, which of course is the old common meaning of "the Laird" traditionally. The head scratching begins when one wonders if ANY of the original Laird settlers, especially in the N of Ireland, changed their names into the then native language (you already know the story of how some settlers became more Irish than the Irish themselves), or, if , (and I put this forward to play devil's advocate here), some of the original Tierneys, Macteers and so on, "anglicized" their names to the English (Scottish) equivalent, in order to bypass some of the Penal Laws still in force before 1829 in Ireland, under which same laws 'native' families were penalized to an extraordinary degree. Thus, it might be possible, if one were researching Lairds in Ireland, and if one were to come across an insurmountable barrier, to make a "lateral leap" and compare the first, or Christian, names if there are contemporary records of Mactirs, Tierneys (and variations). While the barrier may still remain in most cases, the search for that most elusive needle-in-the-haystack can at least be extended. If there are some strong corollaries, then one can at least proceed to the next stage of examining land titles, wills, geographical locations, townlands and so on. I realise that this suggestion may be anathema to some purists, but we all know the extent to which names were changed to become more "socially acceptable" at different periods in the histories of various cultures. Anyway, I throw this slight offering into the brew and trust that it might indeed pique someone's interest, and provide additional fodder, on which we shouldn't gag, but with which the flagging genealogical scholar might renew some strength to KEEP GOING!! Sincerely, Ken Laird ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sharon4mus@aol.com> To: <LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 3:37 PM Subject: [LAIRD] Spellings > We have discussed all the ways the real name could be spelled. I may have > mentioned this in the past, but since we have a lot of new people on the list > it may be worth mentioning again. When searching indexes, be aware of the > kinds of mistakes the person making the index might make. For example, I have > found the name Lard indexed as Sard, Sand, Lord, Land. Horatio Nelson Lard is > in 1860 Indiana Census Index as Horation Nelson Land. > > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > Laird Resource Page: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/l/a/LAIRD/

Are you insinuating that we just might be Irish? How about all the years we have researched Scotland, Ian what about this?

Robert, http://216.118.30.211/lfa/newsletters.htm works great for me. Good luck with DNS details. Thanks, Russell Date forwarded: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:51:20 -0800 (PST) Date sent: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:51:12 -0600 From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> Subject: [LAIRD] LFA web site problems To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com Send reply to: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com > At 08:34 AM 2/16/00 -0600, you wrote: > >Hey, that was quick, Robert... thanks. > > No problem! However, you and a few others are still > having problems... for that, I apologize. > > The Internet's naming system (DNS) which allows us > all to use words instead of numbers for addresses, > is messed up right now. This means you might not > be able to get to the correct server. If you have > this problem, then use this address: > > http://216.118.30.211/lfa > > Make sure that, once you get to the site, and you > bring up the newsletters, you hold down the SHIFT > key while clicking on Refresh/Reload. This will > make sure your computer gets the latest/greatest > copy of the newsletter page, that has the January > newsletter links on it. > > If you STILL can't get to it, then try this: > > http://216.118.30.211/lfa/newsletters.htm > > Again, sorry about this issue. I know WHAT the > problem is, and I'm working on a solution, but I > need to learn a bit more about DNS before I can > fix it. > > -- Robert > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > mailto:rlaird@cavediver.com > http://www.concentric.net/~rlaird/ > Phone: 713-503-2949 > ------------------------------------------------ > > There is an exception to every rule! ... er, > except this one... > > No generalization is worth a damn, .....including > this one... > > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > Laird Family Association Website: http://www.qcsi.net/lfa > >

At 08:34 AM 2/16/00 -0600, you wrote: >Hey, that was quick, Robert... thanks. No problem! However, you and a few others are still having problems... for that, I apologize. The Internet's naming system (DNS) which allows us all to use words instead of numbers for addresses, is messed up right now. This means you might not be able to get to the correct server. If you have this problem, then use this address: http://216.118.30.211/lfa Make sure that, once you get to the site, and you bring up the newsletters, you hold down the SHIFT key while clicking on Refresh/Reload. This will make sure your computer gets the latest/greatest copy of the newsletter page, that has the January newsletter links on it. If you STILL can't get to it, then try this: http://216.118.30.211/lfa/newsletters.htm Again, sorry about this issue. I know WHAT the problem is, and I'm working on a solution, but I need to learn a bit more about DNS before I can fix it. -- Robert - ---------------------------------------------- mailto:rlaird@cavediver.com http://www.concentric.net/~rlaird/ Phone: 713-503-2949 - ---------------------------------------------- There is an exception to every rule! ... er, except this one... No generalization is worth a damn, .....including this one...

We have discussed all the ways the real name could be spelled. I may have mentioned this in the past, but since we have a lot of new people on the list it may be worth mentioning again. When searching indexes, be aware of the kinds of mistakes the person making the index might make. For example, I have found the name Lard indexed as Sard, Sand, Lord, Land. Horatio Nelson Lard is in 1860 Indiana Census Index as Horation Nelson Land.

Hi List I see that there is a newsletter and a web-site. could you please fill me in on where to find these. I'm looking for Martha Laird m. to John Blair about 1757. Thanks Sue > -----Original Message----- > From: PLairdhoward@aol.com [mailto:PLairdhoward@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 10:56 PM > To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LAIRD] LFA Newsletter > > > The newsletter has been sent to Robert for posting on the web site. > I would like to thank all of you for your patience. > > Sincerely, > Patricia > > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > List archive search engines? See resource page at: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/l/a/LAIRD/ > >

Hey, that was quick, Robert... thanks. ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 05:31:32 -0800 (PST) To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com From: Robert Laird <rlaird@concentric.net> Subject: {not a subscriber} January 2000 LFA Newsletter now posted FYI: The January 2000 newsletter is now posted on the web site: http://www.qcsi.net/lfa Also FYI: There has been at least one person who has not been able to reach the LFA web site. This was due to a improper DNS entry in their local area. That means that other may encounter the same thing. Just in case this happens to you, you can also ensure that you are getting to the web site this way: http://216.118.30.211/lfa I don't know how long this condition will last, but it's mostly out of my hands. I apologize for any inconvenience. -- Robert +--------------------------------------------+ | qcsi-Systems * Houston * Texas | | http://www.concentric.net/~rlaird/ | | (713) 260-6586 work (713)467-4135 fax | | (713) 503-2949 cell/pager | +--------------------------------------------+

Patricia, I would like to *thank you* for all your hard work and patience! I appreciate having someplace to come and search for living relatives that can help me find my ancestors. And maybe, I can find some Laird info in this part of the country that will help someone else. Sincerely, Sherry

Hi Patricia I sure wish you had some info on my Hezakiel/Hezakiel Laird/Lard!! I think he must have been hatched! Sherry At 12:16 AM 2/16/00 EST, you wrote: >Tena, > Thank you for the revised edition. I will get it into the newsletter >and send to Robert. Just remember you are not the only one that >has been confused about the early Lairds. I have seen Samuel Laird >who married Mary Young, and Capt William Laird who married >Martha Wilson named as the children of my ancestor John Laird >who married Agnes Black. I have seen my ancestor Hugh Laird >of York County, son of John and Agnes Black confused with Hugh >Laird of Cumberland. The problem seems to be the repeat of names >(Hugh, Samuel, Matthew, etc.), with few birthdates. Without the use >of wills, deeds, warrants, patents, tax records, orphan court dockets, >etc., it makes it very difficult to see the complete picture. To come to >a conclusion without documentation only creates chaos. > I wish you continued success in your research, and I compliment >you for hanging in there. Jay and I will work on clearing up any questions >you may have on the emigrant family, and place the information in the next >newsletter. > >Sincerely, >Patricia Laird Howard > > > >Sincerely, >Patricia > > >==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== >Laird Family Association Website: http://www.qcsi.net/lfa > >

I'll give you my direct lineage today in this "Laird" reunion site, then email by Saturday the famiy history. My lineage, with birth dates Samuel Laird - born September 3, 1804, Pennsylvania; died August 1, 1871, Iroquois County, IL James Laird - born May 30, 1830, Pleasant City, Oh; died 1907, Milford, Iroquois County, IL Marion Laird - born December 26, 1852, Battleground, IN (Tippecanoe County; died June 16, 1922, Milford, IL Lowell A. Laird - born 1876, Lovejoy, Iroquois County, IL, died 1927, Milford, IL Glen L. Laird - born November 24, 1899, Milford, IL, died November 18, 1973, Donovan, Iroquois County, IL Robert G. Laird - b February 29, 1924, Stockland, Iroquois County, IL; d May 30, 1968, Grant Park, Kankakee County, IL Paul A. Laird (me) - b August 11, 1948, Ft. Wayne, Allen County, IN my children Glen LeRoy Laird - b February 28, 1969, d Oct 2, 1971 Kankakee, IL Mary Sue Laird - b November 9, 1976, Hinton, Summers County, WV Philip Joseph Laird - b November 14, 1978; died November 14, 1978, E. Liverpool Ohio Robert Glenn Laird - b October 3, 1980, Charleston, Kanahwa County, WV -----Original Message----- From: Tena Hanna [SMTP:mjhanna@jps.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 2:38 AM To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAIRD] Tena's genealogy Hi Paul: I would appreciate the information that you have on Samuel Laird. I am sure that your Samuel and my James were very close. Geographically and personnally. I agree with you on the LDS web site, I have used it, but have spent almost two years at the LDS family history center in NE Sacramento. It is slow going. My uncle on my mother's side of our family was in the Mormon church (is no longer), and when he was there he submitted his tree for their family (LYKE) several times, each time they rejected it and asked him to correct items. He finally gave up on his family tree project after many years of research and rejection. He is actually quite mad about it still, even though he is not a Mormon now. I have worked extensively on that part of my tree, they lived in upstate New York and thebirths and death records are no where to be found for this family. I am back to the late 1700 and have all but one birth record. Thank you for your kind offer. Tena M. Hanna ----- Original Message ----- From: smalltoe <thelairds@att.net> To: <LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 5:55 AM Subject: RE: [LAIRD] Tena's genealogy > Tena: About the Samuel Laird who was the son of Hugh Laird, and that > Samuel's son, also named Samuel. Samuel #1 was an attorney in Carlisle and > very well respected. His son Samuel was also an attorney of some reknown. > The younger brother of Elizbeth Montgomery (I think his name was John) was > an apprentince attorney under his brother-in-law Samuel Laird, and went on > to become a well known attorney, assemblyman and city councilman. I'll try > to find my information on this and send it to you. > > They are not of my line, but because of the multiple Samuel and James > references I had to check out this family. So I do have a little > information on them. Paul Laird > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tena Hanna [SMTP:mjhanna@jps.net] > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 12:47 PM > To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LAIRD] Tena's genealogy > > Patricia, I am so sorry that I "lost it". I guess I don't have the > patience > for genealogy. You are right about primary evidence, I depended to heavily > on the biographies and printed material I received from Historical > Societies. I need to get back tot he hard work of writing for wills, > deeds, > birth and death records. The 1700's are so difficult. > > I believe I have corrected the things you asked me to. I deleted the dates > on James and Jane Laird. I also, moved Matthew Laird to the position of > being James and Jane's Lairds son. There was a duplicate, with him being > in > the position of Hugh Laird's son, so I deleted that. > > I have had two different people from our line hotly debate the Matthew > Laird > article in the Seilhamer Collection. I have compared notes with them and > see their points, but when comparing the article to what I have proven with > my line, it seems correct. I am beginning to think, I should just have my > line and leave off the other lines. Perhaps your posted genealogy will > clarify the Matthew problem and the James and Jane Laird details. > > Thank you again for accepting my apology. > > Tena McDowell Hanna > > Descendants of James Laird > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > 1. JAMES1 LAIRD was born in Ireland, and died in Derry Township, Lancaster > County, Pennsylvania. He married JANE. She was born in Ireland. > > > Children of JAMES LAIRD and JANE are: > > 2. i. HUGH2 LAIRD, b. Abt. 1736, Allen Township, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania; d. November 09, 1801, Allen Township, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania. > > 3. ii. SAMUEL LAIRD, b. Abt. 1732; d. September 27, 1806, Carlisle, > Cumberland County, Pa. > > 4. iii. WILLIAM LAIRD, b. 1730, Ireland; d. April 11, 1820, Hanover, Deery, > Pennsylvania. > > iv. MARY LAIRD, m. (1) WILLIAM SNODDY; d. Bef. 1736; m. (2) JAMES IRELAND. > > v. JOHN LAIRD, m. AGNES BLACK. > > vi. JAMES LAIRD, b. Abt. 1769; d. Abt. 1741; m. JANE. > > 5. vii. MATHEW LAIRD, b. Abt. 1755, Allen Township, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania; d. February 1821, South Middleton township, Cumberland > county, > Pennsylvania. > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > 2. HUGH2 LAIRD (JAMES1) was born Abt. 1736 in Allen Township, Cumberland > County, Pennsylvania, and died November 09, 1801 in Allen Township, > Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. He married ANNA. She was born Abt. 1740 in > Ireland, and died Bef. December 28, 1809 in Allen Township, Cumberland > County, PAPennsylvania. > > > Children of HUGH LAIRD and ANNA are: > > 6. i. JAMES3 LAIRD, b. December 12, 1753, West Pennsboro Township, > Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. October 10, 1834, Newville, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania. > > ii. ARTHUR LAIRD, b. Abt. 1762, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. > > 7. iii. JANE LAIRD, b. Abt. 1766, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. > > 8. iv. STEWART LAIRD, b. Abt. 1768, Allen Township, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania; d. Juniata County, Pennsylvania. > > v. WILLIAM LAIRD, b. Abt. 1770, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. > > vi. SAMUEL LAIRD. > > 3. SAMUEL2 LAIRD (JAMES1) was born Abt. 1732, and died September 27, 1806 > in > Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pa. He married MARY YOUNG, daughter of JAMES > YOUNG and ELIZABETH. She was born October 31, 1741 in Carlisle, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania, and died February 04, 1833 in Carlisle, Cumberland County, > Pa.. > > > Child of SAMUEL LAIRD and MARY YOUNG is: > > i. SAMUEL3 LAIRD, b. February 15, 1769, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pa.; > d. > January 15, 1815, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania; m. ELIZABETH MONTGOMERY; b. > July > 17, 1768; d. October 12, 1814, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. > > 4. WILLIAM2 LAIRD (JAMES1) was born 1730 in Ireland, and died April 11, > 1820 > in Hanover, Deery, Pennsylvania. He married (1) MARTHA WILSON. She was born > November 16, 1730 in Ireland, and died in Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pa.. > He married (2) CATHERINE SPENCER. > > > Children of WILLIAM LAIRD and MARTHA WILSON are: > > i. MARGARET3 LAIRD, b. 1756. > > ii. ELIZABETH LAIRD, b. 1759; m. MCCLURE. > > iii. SAMUEL LAIRD. > > > Child of WILLIAM LAIRD and CATHERINE SPENCER is: > > iv. MARY3 LAIRD, m. JAMES HARRIS. > > 5. MATHEW2 LAIRD (JAMES1) was born Abt. 1755 in Allen Township, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania, and died February 1821 in South Middleton township, > Cumberland > county, Pennsylvania. He married ELIZABETH LAIRD. She was born Abt. 1759 in > South Middleton, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died Bef. March 02, 1820 in > South Middleton township, Cumberland county, Pennsylva. > > > Children of MATHEW LAIRD and ELIZABETH LAIRD are: > > i. ELIZABETH3 LAIRD, m. HENRY BURKHOLDER. > > ii. MATTHEW LAIRD. > > iii. WILLIAM LAIRD. > > 9. iv. FRANCIS LAIRD, b. Adams County, Pennsylvania; d. April 06, 1854, > Westmoreland county, Pennsylvania. > > 10. v. JAMES LAIRD, b. May 11, 1761, Allen Township, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania; d. February 15, 1846, Montour county, Pennsylvania. > > vi. JOHN M. LAIRD, b. 1797, Carlilse, Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania; d. > March > 12, 1849, New Bloomfield, Pennsylvania; m. JULIA POWERS. > > vii. SAMUEL LAIRD. > > viii. RACHAEL LAIRD. > > > > Generation No. 3 > > > 6. JAMES3 LAIRD (HUGH2, JAMES1) was born December 12, 1753 in West > Pennsboro > Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died October 10, 1834 in Newville, > Cumberland, Pennsylvania. He married (1) JANE MCCLURE Abt. 1786 in > Frankford > Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, daughter of ROBERT MCCLURE and > MARGARET DOUGLAS. She was born August 19, 1763 in West Pennsboro Township, > Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania, and died Bef. 1802 in Frankford, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania. He married (2) CATHARINE ALLEN May 1802 in Frankford > Township, > Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She was born June 1764 in Baltimore, > Maryland, and died January 15, 1850 in Frankford, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania. > > > Children of JAMES LAIRD and JANE MCCLURE are: > > i. HUGH4 LAIRD, b. January 08, 1787, Frankford Township, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania; d. September 30, 1815, Frankford Township, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania. > > ii. ROBERT LAIRD, b. November 11, 1788, Frankford, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania; > d. January 15, 1848, Frankford, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > > 11. iii. MARGARET LAIRD, b. December 09, 1790, West Pennsboro, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania; d. May 30, 1855, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > > iv. ANNA LAIRD, b. December 10, 1791, Frankford, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; > d. September 17, 1867, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; m. (1) > JAMES LOGAN, March 23, 1824, Carlisle, Pennsylvania; b. 1782; d. October > 26, > 1828, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; m. (2) JAMES DAVIDSON, > April 15, 1831; b. 1790, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. > September 27, 1858, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > > v. THOMAS LAIRD, b. April 20, 1794, Frankford, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. > April 19, 1830, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > > vi. JANE LAIRD, b. July 26, 1797. > > vii. JAMES LAIRD, b. July 26, 1797; d. July 31, 1797. > > > Children of JAMES LAIRD and CATHARINE ALLEN are: > > viii. MARY4 LAIRD, b. Aft. 1802. > > ix. JOHN LAIRD, b. Aft. 1803. > > 7. JANE3 LAIRD (HUGH2, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1766 in Allen Township, > Cumberland, Pennsylvania. She married WILLIAM MCMEEN. > > > Children of JANE LAIRD and WILLIAM MCMEEN are: > > i. ANN4 MCMEEN. > > ii. GRIZZEL MCMEEN. > > 8. STEWART3 LAIRD (HUGH2, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1768 in Allen Township, > Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died in Juniata County, Pennsylvania. > > > Children of STEWART LAIRD are: > > i. WILSON4 LAIRD. > > ii. PRISCILLA LAIRD, m. HUSBAND ROBINSON. > > iii. THOMAS LAIRD. > > iv. HUGH LAIRD. > > v. SAMUEL LAIRD. > > 9. FRANCIS3 LAIRD (MATHEW2, JAMES1) was born in Adams County, Pennsylvania, > and died April 06, 1854 in Westmoreland county, Pennsylvania. He married > MARY MOORE 1803. > > > Children of FRANCIS LAIRD and MARY MOORE are: > > i. MARY4 LAIRD, m. WILLIAM B. STEWART. > > 12. ii. ELIZA M. LAIRD. > > 10. JAMES3 LAIRD (MATHEW2, JAMES1) was born May 11, 1761 in Allen Township, > Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died February 15, 1846 in Montour county, > Pennsylvania. He married (1) MARY MCFARLAND February 12, 1788, daughter of > JOHN MCFARLAND and MARY. She was born November 15, 1770, and died July 24, > 1796. He married (2) SARAH WATSON May 11, 1797. She was born January 21, > 1772. > > > Children of JAMES LAIRD and MARY MCFARLAND are: > > 13. i. JOHN4 LAIRD, b. August 02, 1789; d. September 23, 1862, Lairdsville, > Lycoming County, Pennsylvania. > > ii. WILLIAM LAIRD, b. October 11, 1791. > > iii. MARY LAIRD, b. March 15, 1794. > > > Children of JAMES LAIRD and SARAH WATSON are: > > iv. SAMUEL4 LAIRD, b. March 08, 1798. > > v. JANE MCKINNEY. > > vi. JAMES LAIRD, b. July 27, 1801; d. Bef. 1806. > > vii. JAMES LAIRD, b. October 21, 1806. > > viii. THOMAS LAIRD, b. March 21, 1810. > > > > Generation No. 4 > > > 11. MARGARET4 LAIRD (JAMES3, HUGH2, JAMES1) was born December 09, 1790 in > West Pennsboro, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died May 30, 1855 in > Newville, > Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She married JOHN MCDOWELL March 12, 1818 > in > Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, son of JOHN MCDOWELL and > MARGARET > HUTTON. He was born November 13, 1778 in West Pennsboro, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania, and died June 29, 1829 in Newville, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania. > > > Children of MARGARET LAIRD and JOHN MCDOWELL are: > > 14. i. MARGARET5 MCDOWELL, b. June 29, 1819, Frankford Township, Cumberland > County, Pennsylvania. > > ii. JANE MCDOWELL, b. January 23, 1821, West Pennsboro Township, Cumberland > County, Pennsylvania; d. February 19, 1892, Carlisle, Cumberland County, > PA. > > iii. JOHN MCDOWELL, b. November 30, 1822; d. July 27, 1857, Newville, > Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > > iv. MARY MCDOWELL, b. October 04, 1824, West Pennsboro, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania; d. August 12, 1880, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. > > 15. v. JAMES LAIRD MCDOWELL, b. October 29, 1826, Newville, Cumberland > County, Pennsylvania; d. December 21, 1904, Elkton, Colorado. > > vi. SAMUEL ALEXANDER MCDOWELL, b. October 20, 1828, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania; d. January 03, 1887, Carlisle, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania; m. HESTER MCCLELLAN, September 12, 1860, Carlisle, Cumberland > County, Pennsylvania; b. Abt. 1830, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pa; d. > Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > > 12. ELIZA M.4 LAIRD (FRANCIS3, MATHEW2, JAMES1) She married JAMES RAMSEY > JOHNSTON. He was born October 29, 1803. > > > Children of ELIZA LAIRD and JAMES JOHNSTON are: > > i. FRANCIS LAIRD5 JOHNSTON. > > ii. WILLIAM JOHNSTON. > > 13. JOHN4 LAIRD (JAMES3, MATHEW2, JAMES1) was born August 02, 1789, and > died > September 23, 1862 in Lairdsville, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania. He > married > MARGARET SMITH November 22, 1810. She was born June 02, 1790. > > > Children of JOHN LAIRD and MARGARET SMITH are: > > i. MARY5 LAIRD, b. December 26, 1811. > > ii. HUGH LAIRD, b. February 18, 1813. > > 16. iii. JAMES LAIRD, b. April 01, 1814; d. January 1882, Hughesville, > Lycoming County, Pennsylvania. > > iv. ELIZABETH LAIRD, b. September 07, 1819. > > v. JOHN LAIRD, b. February 19, 1822. > > vi. WILLIAM LAIRD, b. January 03, 1832. > > > > Generation No. 5 > > > 14. MARGARET5 MCDOWELL (MARGARET4 LAIRD, JAMES3, HUGH2, JAMES1) was born > June 29, 1819 in Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She > married ISAIAH GRAHAM MACFARLANE January 01, 1845, son of JOHN MACFARLANE > and MARTHA GRAHAM. He was born in Perry County, Pennsylvania, and died in > Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. > > > Children of MARGARET MCDOWELL and ISAIAH MACFARLANE are: > > i. ELIZABETH6 MACFARLANE, b. April 03; m. JAMES I. BUCHANAN. > > ii. JOHN FINLEY MACFARLANE, b. October 22, 1845; d. Abt. 1874. > > iii. ANNA MARY MACFARLANE, b. September 25, 1847; m. ELIAKIM TORRANCE, > September 22, 1868. > > iv. JAMES GRAHAM MACFARLANE, b. December 02, 1848. > > v. MARGARET LAIRD MACFARLANE, b. April 18, 1851; m. JOHN MITCHELL > PATTERSON, > October 29, 1874. > > vi. MARTHA ALICE MACFARLANE, b. June 14, 1853; d. May 15, 1889. > > vii. SAMUEL STARRETT MACFARLANE, b. April 22, 1860; m. IDA WILLET, June 27, > 1887. > > 15. JAMES LAIRD5 MCDOWELL (MARGARET4 LAIRD, JAMES3, HUGH2, JAMES1) was born > October 29, 1826 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, and died > December 21, 1904 in Elkton, Colorado. He married (1) MARY ISABELLA BLEAN > August 12, 1862 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, daughter of > ROBERT BLEAN and MARGARET SCOULLER. She was born March 07, 1836 in > Pennsylvania, and died February 12, 1865 in Newville, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania, 28 years 11 months 5 days. He married (2) DORCAS ROSELINA > COLLINS October 10, 1867, daughter of DAVID COLLINS and MARY MANIFOLD. She > was born October 22, 1837 in Pennsylvania, and died July 26, 1894 in > Manhattan, Riley County, Kansas. > > > Children of JAMES MCDOWELL and MARY BLEAN are: > > i. MARGARET LAIRD6 MCDOWELL, b. July 29, 1863, Newville, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania; d. April 07, 1884, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, > 20 year 8 months and 8 days. > > ii. ROBERT BLEAN MCDOWELL, b. January 25, 1865, Newville, Cumberland > County, > Pennsylvania; d. February 01, 1865, Newville, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania. > > > Children of JAMES MCDOWELL and DORCAS COLLINS are: > > iii. RALPH EWING6 MCDOWELL, b. October 01, 1868, Leavenworth, Kansas; d. > August 12, 1902, Fort Clark, Texas. > > iv. JAMES LAIRD MCDOWELL JR., b. May 30, 1871, Nortonville, Jefferson > County, Kansas; d. Abt. 1951, Tucson, Pima County, Arizona; m. TENA WAYNE > KNOX, January 03, 1899; b. November 23, 1873, Clyde, Cloud County, Kansas; > d. December 12, 1963, Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona. > > v. DAVID COLLINS MCDOWELL, b. April 09, 1873, Nortonville, Jefferson > County, > Kansas; d. May 26, 1949, Billings, Montana; m. ELIZABETH LEE STINGLEY, > March > 1899, Cripple Creek, Colorado; d. Billings, Montana. > > vi. ROSE EDITH MCDOWELL, b. March 20, 1875, Nortonville, Jefferson County, > Kansas; d. 1966, Freemont, California; m. GEORGE HELDER, November 16, 1914, > Victor, Colorado; b. October 29, 1872; d. 1942. > > vii. SAMUEL ALEXANDER MCDOWELL, b. April 14, 1877, Nortonville, Jefferson > County, Kansas; d. May 23, 1959, Billings, Montana; m. DAISY DAY, October > 16, 1912, Onaga, Kansas; b. October 15, 1876, Onaga, Kansas; d. April 19, > 1982, Billings, Montana. > > viii. GEORGE GARFIELD MCDOWELL, b. May 18, 1879, Nortonville, Jefferson > County, Kansas; d. Russia; m. TONY, Unknown, George Married in Russia, his > old mother-in-law was a baptist--unhappy; b. Russia. > > ix. EDWARD PURCELL MCDOWELL, b. January 12, 1882, Nortonville, Jefferson > County, Kansas; d. February 02, 1949, Billings, Montana; m. FREDIA > PATTERSON. > > 16. JAMES5 LAIRD (JOHN4, JAMES3, MATHEW2, JAMES1) was born April 01, 1814, > and died January 1882 in Hughesville, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania. He > married RUTH A. CARVER. She died June 07, 1891. > > > Children of JAMES LAIRD and RUTH CARVER are: > > i. E. LIVINGSTON6 LAIRD. > > ii. MARTHA LAIRD, m. J. K. RISHEL. > > iii. WILLIAM L. LAIRD. > > iv. H. NEWTON LAIRD. > > v. JOHN C. LAIRD, b. May 21, 1844; m. SOPHIA S. TALLMAN, June 06, 1867. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <PLairdhoward@aol.com> > To: <LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 2:20 AM > Subject: [LAIRD] Tena's genealogy > > > > Tena, > > I have been waiting to send the newsletter to Robert in hopes that > > I would hear from you. Please e-mail me, lets work on your first > generation > > and then post your information to the newsletter. I am sorry that we did > > not get this taken care of back in August when I first planned to write > to > > you but I got so busy that I forgot. I am so glad that you did not leave > > the Laird list. We are a very nice family that believes in helping each > > other. > > > > With Love, > > Patricia Laird Howard > > > > > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > > List problem or question? > > e-mail Russell Laird at rlaird@1starnet.com > > > > > > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > Laird Family Association Website: http://www.qcsi.net/lfa > > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > Laird Family Association Website: http://www.qcsi.net/lfa > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== LFA Newsletter idea? e-mail Patricia Laird Howard at pahoward@concentric.net

The newsletter has been sent to Robert for posting on the web site. I would like to thank all of you for your patience. Sincerely, Patricia

Tena, Thank you for the revised edition. I will get it into the newsletter and send to Robert. Just remember you are not the only one that has been confused about the early Lairds. I have seen Samuel Laird who married Mary Young, and Capt William Laird who married Martha Wilson named as the children of my ancestor John Laird who married Agnes Black. I have seen my ancestor Hugh Laird of York County, son of John and Agnes Black confused with Hugh Laird of Cumberland. The problem seems to be the repeat of names (Hugh, Samuel, Matthew, etc.), with few birthdates. Without the use of wills, deeds, warrants, patents, tax records, orphan court dockets, etc., it makes it very difficult to see the complete picture. To come to a conclusion without documentation only creates chaos. I wish you continued success in your research, and I compliment you for hanging in there. Jay and I will work on clearing up any questions you may have on the emigrant family, and place the information in the next newsletter. Sincerely, Patricia Laird Howard Sincerely, Patricia

Tena; I suppose you have looked in the records of the First Dutch Reform Churches in NY, just on the off chance that some ancestors might be there. Many of my Clark ancestors (TRUAX my mother's lines) were there, even though some were English and/or Welsh. They seem to have quite a few "married -ins". Tena Hanna wrote: > Hi Paul: I would appreciate the information that you have on Samuel Laird. > I am sure that your Samuel and my James were very close. Geographically and > personnally. I agree with you on the LDS web site, I have used it, but <<CLIP>>

Hello to all; Martha Laird b. about 1732 in Ireland d. April 1803 in TN, m. John "The Pioneer" Blair Jan. 5, 1754. They had 8 children: William b. 1762 m.Dunham; John b. 1754 m.Kelsey; Ann b. 1758 m. McLin; Joseph b. 1770 m. McConaughy; Richard b. 1772 m. McConaghy; Brice b. 1772 m. McLeary; Robert b.1779; and Martha b. 1781. Any information on the Laird or Blair lines would be a great help. I'm always willing to share. Thanks for any help. Sue K.

In a message dated 2/14/00 8:48:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, HKLEA@aol.com writes: << If you have anything that might indicate a possible connection to your branch I would really like to explore it further. Ken >> At this time I do not have the information that would or would not tie us together. I do know that William's family was in Butler Co. Alabama in 1837. They later moved to Geneva Co. Alabama because they are listed in the 1850 Federal Census. William's son's, Henry, death certificate says he was born in Lexington District, SC and was of English/French descent. Sarah

Hi Patricia: I am enclosing a copy of our genealogy from Hugh and Anna Laird to about three generations. This eliminates the areas in question. In reference to my posting to the Cumberland County list, I think the topic was the Young family, my source for the genealogy information was Pennsylvania Genealogies, Author: William Henry Egle, Call Number: R929.1 E31, page 213 (See below), but the comments about the wills were from your newsletter, I posted your note so that the list would be aware of the possible problem with this record) The Rev. Mr. Montgomery was twice married; m., first, in 1765, ELIZABETH REED, d. March, 1769, daughter of Andrew and Sarah Reed, of Trenton, N. J., and they had issue: ii. Elizabeth, b. July 17, 1768; d. October 12, 1814, in Harrisburg, Pa.; m. Samuel Laird, b. at Carlisle, Pa., 15th February, 1769, son of Samuel Laird (1732-1806) and Mary Young, (1741-1833,) daughter of James Young. His father was for many years one of the provincial magistrates of Cumberland county, and, under the Constitution of 1776, one of the justices of the courts. Mr. Laird received a classical education, studied law at Carlisle, and was admitted to the Dauphin county bar at the September term, 1792. He located at Harrisburg, and soon secured a large and successful practice. In the early years of the borough he took an active part in its local affairs, and was a prominent actor in the first decade of its history. He died at Harrisburg, Pa., January 15, 1815. Pat here is the revised, revised copy of my genealogy report starting with Hugh Laird. I do have a problem with the birth date of Hugh being before 1737, My James was born in 1753, usually there is a 20 - 25 gap between generations. The date 1736 would be about right for Hugh to be the father of my James???? But...Williams deposition states that his father sent Hugh Laird, a son up to the Swatara. This was dated 1737. Lets suppose Hugh was 18 - in 1737, that would make him 34 or 36 when James was born. Not impossible, but it does put a question in my mind. Where can I write for a copy of the disposition of William Laird? This seems to be a critical document. Sorry about the date errors, they are purged for right now. I most certainly am looking forward to your article on this line. hope this hasn't held you back too much. Tena McDowell Hanna Descendants of Hugh Laird Generation No. 1 1. HUGH2 LAIRD (JAMES1) was born in Allen Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, and died November 09, 1801 in Allen Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. He married ANNA. She was born Abt. 1740 in Ireland, and died Bef. December 28, 1809 in Allen Township, Cumberland County, PAPennsylvania. Children of HUGH LAIRD and ANNA are: 2. i. JAMES3 LAIRD, b. December 12, 1753, West Pennsboro Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. October 10, 1834, Newville, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. ii. ARTHUR LAIRD, b. Abt. 1762, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. 3. iii. JANE LAIRD, b. Abt. 1766, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. 4. iv. STEWART LAIRD, b. Abt. 1768, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. Juniata County, Pennsylvania. v. WILLIAM LAIRD, b. Abt. 1770, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. vi. SAMUEL LAIRD. Generation No. 2 2. JAMES3 LAIRD (HUGH2, JAMES1) was born December 12, 1753 in West Pennsboro Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died October 10, 1834 in Newville, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. He married (1) JANE MCCLURE Abt. 1786 in Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, daughter of ROBERT MCCLURE and MARGARET DOUGLAS. She was born August 19, 1763 in West Pennsboro Township, Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania, and died Bef. 1802 in Frankford, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. He married (2) CATHARINE ALLEN May 1802 in Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She was born June 1764 in Baltimore, Maryland, and died January 15, 1850 in Frankford, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. Children of JAMES LAIRD and JANE MCCLURE are: i. HUGH4 LAIRD, b. January 08, 1787, Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. September 30, 1815, Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. ii. ROBERT LAIRD, b. November 11, 1788, Frankford, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. January 15, 1848, Frankford, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. 5. iii. MARGARET LAIRD, b. December 09, 1790, West Pennsboro, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. May 30, 1855, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. iv. ANNA LAIRD, b. December 10, 1791, Frankford, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. September 17, 1867, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; m. (1) JAMES LOGAN, March 23, 1824, Carlisle, Pennsylvania; b. 1782; d. October 26, 1828, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; m. (2) JAMES DAVIDSON, April 15, 1831; b. 1790, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. September 27, 1858, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. v. THOMAS LAIRD, b. April 20, 1794, Frankford, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. April 19, 1830, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. vi. JANE LAIRD, b. July 26, 1797. vii. JAMES LAIRD, b. July 26, 1797; d. July 31, 1797. Children of JAMES LAIRD and CATHARINE ALLEN are: viii. MARY4 LAIRD, b. Aft. 1802. ix. JOHN LAIRD, b. Aft. 1803. 3. JANE3 LAIRD (HUGH2, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1766 in Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. She married WILLIAM MCMEEN. Children of JANE LAIRD and WILLIAM MCMEEN are: i. ANN4 MCMEEN. ii. GRIZZEL MCMEEN. 4. STEWART3 LAIRD (HUGH2, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1768 in Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died in Juniata County, Pennsylvania. Children of STEWART LAIRD are: i. WILSON4 LAIRD. ii. PRISCILLA LAIRD, m. HUSBAND ROBINSON. iii. THOMAS LAIRD. iv. HUGH LAIRD. v. SAMUEL LAIRD. Generation No. 3 5. MARGARET4 LAIRD (JAMES3, HUGH2, JAMES1) was born December 09, 1790 in West Pennsboro, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died May 30, 1855 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She married JOHN MCDOWELL March 12, 1818 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, son of JOHN MCDOWELL and MARGARET HUTTON. He was born November 13, 1778 in West Pennsboro, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, and died June 29, 1829 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. Children of MARGARET LAIRD and JOHN MCDOWELL are: 6. i. MARGARET5 MCDOWELL, b. June 29, 1819, Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. ii. JANE MCDOWELL, b. January 23, 1821, West Pennsboro Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. February 19, 1892, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. iii. JOHN MCDOWELL, b. November 30, 1822; d. July 27, 1857, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. iv. MARY MCDOWELL, b. October 04, 1824, West Pennsboro, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. August 12, 1880, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. 7. v. JAMES LAIRD MCDOWELL, b. October 29, 1826, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. December 21, 1904, Elkton, Colorado. vi. SAMUEL ALEXANDER MCDOWELL, b. October 20, 1828, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. January 03, 1887, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; m. HESTER MCCLELLAN, September 12, 1860, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; b. Abt. 1830, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pa; d. Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. Generation No. 4 6. MARGARET5 MCDOWELL (MARGARET4 LAIRD, JAMES3, HUGH2, JAMES1) was born June 29, 1819 in Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She married ISAIAH GRAHAM MACFARLANE January 01, 1845, son of JOHN MACFARLANE and MARTHA GRAHAM. He was born in Perry County, Pennsylvania, and died in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Children of MARGARET MCDOWELL and ISAIAH MACFARLANE are: i. ELIZABETH6 MACFARLANE, b. April 03; m. JAMES I. BUCHANAN. ii. JOHN FINLEY MACFARLANE, b. October 22, 1845; d. Abt. 1874. iii. ANNA MARY MACFARLANE, b. September 25, 1847; m. ELIAKIM TORRANCE, September 22, 1868. iv. JAMES GRAHAM MACFARLANE, b. December 02, 1848. v. MARGARET LAIRD MACFARLANE, b. April 18, 1851; m. JOHN MITCHELL PATTERSON, October 29, 1874. vi. MARTHA ALICE MACFARLANE, b. June 14, 1853; d. May 15, 1889. vii. SAMUEL STARRETT MACFARLANE, b. April 22, 1860; m. IDA WILLET, June 27, 1887. 7. JAMES LAIRD5 MCDOWELL (MARGARET4 LAIRD, JAMES3, HUGH2, JAMES1) was born October 29, 1826 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, and died December 21, 1904 in Elkton, Colorado. He married (1) MARY ISABELLA BLEAN August 12, 1862 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, daughter of ROBERT BLEAN and MARGARET SCOULLER. She was born March 07, 1836 in Pennsylvania, and died February 12, 1865 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, 28 years 11 months 5 days. He married (2) DORCAS ROSELINA COLLINS October 10, 1867, daughter of DAVID COLLINS and MARY MANIFOLD. She was born October 22, 1837 in Pennsylvania, and died July 26, 1894 in Manhattan, Riley County, Kansas. Children of JAMES MCDOWELL and MARY BLEAN are: i. MARGARET LAIRD6 MCDOWELL, b. July 29, 1863, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. April 07, 1884, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, 20 year 8 months and 8 days. ii. ROBERT BLEAN MCDOWELL, b. January 25, 1865, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. February 01, 1865, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. Children of JAMES MCDOWELL and DORCAS COLLINS are: iii. RALPH EWING6 MCDOWELL, b. October 01, 1868, Leavenworth, Kansas; d. August 12, 1902, Fort Clark, Texas. iv. JAMES LAIRD MCDOWELL JR., b. May 30, 1871, Nortonville, Jefferson County, Kansas; d. Abt. 1951, Tucson, Pima County, Arizona; m. TENA WAYNE KNOX, January 03, 1899; b. November 23, 1873, Clyde, Cloud County, Kansas; d. December 12, 1963, Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona. v. DAVID COLLINS MCDOWELL, b. April 09, 1873, Nortonville, Jefferson County, Kansas; d. May 26, 1949, Billings, Montana; m. ELIZABETH LEE STINGLEY, March 1899, Cripple Creek, Colorado; d. Billings, Montana. vi. ROSE EDITH MCDOWELL, b. March 20, 1875, Nortonville, Jefferson County, Kansas; d. 1966, Freemont, California; m. GEORGE HELDER, November 16, 1914, Victor, Colorado; b. October 29, 1872; d. 1942. vii. SAMUEL ALEXANDER MCDOWELL, b. April 14, 1877, Nortonville, Jefferson County, Kansas; d. May 23, 1959, Billings, Montana; m. DAISY DAY, October 16, 1912, Onaga, Kansas; b. October 15, 1876, Onaga, Kansas; d. April 19, 1982, Billings, Montana. viii. GEORGE GARFIELD MCDOWELL, b. May 18, 1879, Nortonville, Jefferson County, Kansas; d. Russia; m. TONY, Unknown, George Married in Russia, his old mother-in-law was a baptist--unhappy; b. Russia. ix. EDWARD PURCELL MCDOWELL, b. January 12, 1882, Nortonville, Jefferson County, Kansas; d. February 02, 1949, Billings, Montana; m. FREDIA PATTERSON. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PLairdhoward@aol.com> To: <LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: [LAIRD] Tena's genealogy > Tena, > I still see problems. The deposition of William Laird states that his > father sent Hugh Laird a son up to the Swatara. This date was about > 1737 which means that the birth date for Hugh Laird is wrong. The younger > James Laird left a will that was probated 22 December 1741, you have his > birth date as abt 1769. You have Matthew Laird born 1755 while the > first James Laird died before 14 Feb 1737 when Jane Laird the widow > of James Laird received a warrant for land in Derry Township so Matthew > couldn't have been born after 1737. You have Samuel Laird listed as the > son of Samuel Laird and Mary Young. The will of both Samuel and Mary > Young Laird indicate that they died without issue. > Please don't get frustrated. I think the article in the next issue will > clear up a lot of problems with this line. Would you mind just sticking > with your direct line for the earliest known Laird ancestor? I do not have > the proper time to clear up all the problems now. This is why my my > brother and I are writing the article for the next newsletter. > However, I can't start on it until I get the earliest known Laird ancestor > newsletter finished. > As for printed biographies, they are just like any other > secondary source: They can have errors and must be proven by > primary sources. When I place a biography from a printed history in > the newsletter that has an error that I am aware of, I print a note below > the written material to correct the error and list my source. This is what > I did in the newsletter when I posted material that named Samuel Laird > and wife Mary Young as the parents of Samuel Laird. I placed a paragraph > below the material indicating that the will of both Samuel Laird and his wife > Mary indicated that they died without issue. You have seen this material > because you quoted my note directly from the newsletter onto the Cumberland > list. I will be gone part of the day and will talk to you this afternoon. > Take > care. > > Sincerely, > Patricia Laird Howard > > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > List problem or question? > e-mail Russell Laird at rlaird@1starnet.com > >

Tena; Sounds to me like you have done your homework better than most. Perhaps someone will be able to help you track down the source of the apparent error. Would Patricia list your next oldest ancestor for the time being? I wish I were able to find such good sources for my lost Laird. Daphne N. Richey Tena Hanna wrote: > Patricia and List Members: > > In a moment of anger I hastily posted Patricia's letter addressed to me re: > my eldest Laird ancestor. > > Please accept my apology to you and the list for allowing my personal hurts > to overflow to the list. > > Tena McDowell Hanna

<< "Laird" spoken sounds pretty much like "Layurrd" or "Leyrrd" >> When I lived in Missouri, one girl said she couldn't pronounce my maiden name very well, it came out like "Lar-red." I finally convinced her she COULD pronounce it, when I asked her to say Chocolate Layered Cake.. then said, my name is Layered. She was fine after that!

Hi Paul: I would appreciate the information that you have on Samuel Laird. I am sure that your Samuel and my James were very close. Geographically and personnally. I agree with you on the LDS web site, I have used it, but have spent almost two years at the LDS family history center in NE Sacramento. It is slow going. My uncle on my mother's side of our family was in the Mormon church (is no longer), and when he was there he submitted his tree for their family (LYKE) several times, each time they rejected it and asked him to correct items. He finally gave up on his family tree project after many years of research and rejection. He is actually quite mad about it still, even though he is not a Mormon now. I have worked extensively on that part of my tree, they lived in upstate New York and thebirths and death records are no where to be found for this family. I am back to the late 1700 and have all but one birth record. Thank you for your kind offer. Tena M. Hanna ----- Original Message ----- From: smalltoe <thelairds@att.net> To: <LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 5:55 AM Subject: RE: [LAIRD] Tena's genealogy > Tena: About the Samuel Laird who was the son of Hugh Laird, and that > Samuel's son, also named Samuel. Samuel #1 was an attorney in Carlisle and > very well respected. His son Samuel was also an attorney of some reknown. > The younger brother of Elizbeth Montgomery (I think his name was John) was > an apprentince attorney under his brother-in-law Samuel Laird, and went on > to become a well known attorney, assemblyman and city councilman. I'll try > to find my information on this and send it to you. > > They are not of my line, but because of the multiple Samuel and James > references I had to check out this family. So I do have a little > information on them. Paul Laird > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tena Hanna [SMTP:mjhanna@jps.net] > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 12:47 PM > To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LAIRD] Tena's genealogy > > Patricia, I am so sorry that I "lost it". I guess I don't have the > patience > for genealogy. You are right about primary evidence, I depended to heavily > on the biographies and printed material I received from Historical > Societies. I need to get back tot he hard work of writing for wills, > deeds, > birth and death records. The 1700's are so difficult. > > I believe I have corrected the things you asked me to. I deleted the dates > on James and Jane Laird. I also, moved Matthew Laird to the position of > being James and Jane's Lairds son. There was a duplicate, with him being > in > the position of Hugh Laird's son, so I deleted that. > > I have had two different people from our line hotly debate the Matthew > Laird > article in the Seilhamer Collection. I have compared notes with them and > see their points, but when comparing the article to what I have proven with > my line, it seems correct. I am beginning to think, I should just have my > line and leave off the other lines. Perhaps your posted genealogy will > clarify the Matthew problem and the James and Jane Laird details. > > Thank you again for accepting my apology. > > Tena McDowell Hanna > > Descendants of James Laird > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > 1. JAMES1 LAIRD was born in Ireland, and died in Derry Township, Lancaster > County, Pennsylvania. He married JANE. She was born in Ireland. > > > Children of JAMES LAIRD and JANE are: > > 2. i. HUGH2 LAIRD, b. Abt. 1736, Allen Township, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania; d. November 09, 1801, Allen Township, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania. > > 3. ii. SAMUEL LAIRD, b. Abt. 1732; d. September 27, 1806, Carlisle, > Cumberland County, Pa. > > 4. iii. WILLIAM LAIRD, b. 1730, Ireland; d. April 11, 1820, Hanover, Deery, > Pennsylvania. > > iv. MARY LAIRD, m. (1) WILLIAM SNODDY; d. Bef. 1736; m. (2) JAMES IRELAND. > > v. JOHN LAIRD, m. AGNES BLACK. > > vi. JAMES LAIRD, b. Abt. 1769; d. Abt. 1741; m. JANE. > > 5. vii. MATHEW LAIRD, b. Abt. 1755, Allen Township, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania; d. February 1821, South Middleton township, Cumberland > county, > Pennsylvania. > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > 2. HUGH2 LAIRD (JAMES1) was born Abt. 1736 in Allen Township, Cumberland > County, Pennsylvania, and died November 09, 1801 in Allen Township, > Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. He married ANNA. She was born Abt. 1740 in > Ireland, and died Bef. December 28, 1809 in Allen Township, Cumberland > County, PAPennsylvania. > > > Children of HUGH LAIRD and ANNA are: > > 6. i. JAMES3 LAIRD, b. December 12, 1753, West Pennsboro Township, > Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. October 10, 1834, Newville, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania. > > ii. ARTHUR LAIRD, b. Abt. 1762, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. > > 7. iii. JANE LAIRD, b. Abt. 1766, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. > > 8. iv. STEWART LAIRD, b. Abt. 1768, Allen Township, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania; d. Juniata County, Pennsylvania. > > v. WILLIAM LAIRD, b. Abt. 1770, Allen Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. > > vi. SAMUEL LAIRD. > > 3. SAMUEL2 LAIRD (JAMES1) was born Abt. 1732, and died September 27, 1806 > in > Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pa. He married MARY YOUNG, daughter of JAMES > YOUNG and ELIZABETH. She was born October 31, 1741 in Carlisle, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania, and died February 04, 1833 in Carlisle, Cumberland County, > Pa.. > > > Child of SAMUEL LAIRD and MARY YOUNG is: > > i. SAMUEL3 LAIRD, b. February 15, 1769, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pa.; > d. > January 15, 1815, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania; m. ELIZABETH MONTGOMERY; b. > July > 17, 1768; d. October 12, 1814, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. > > 4. WILLIAM2 LAIRD (JAMES1) was born 1730 in Ireland, and died April 11, > 1820 > in Hanover, Deery, Pennsylvania. He married (1) MARTHA WILSON. She was born > November 16, 1730 in Ireland, and died in Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pa.. > He married (2) CATHERINE SPENCER. > > > Children of WILLIAM LAIRD and MARTHA WILSON are: > > i. MARGARET3 LAIRD, b. 1756. > > ii. ELIZABETH LAIRD, b. 1759; m. MCCLURE. > > iii. SAMUEL LAIRD. > > > Child of WILLIAM LAIRD and CATHERINE SPENCER is: > > iv. MARY3 LAIRD, m. JAMES HARRIS. > > 5. MATHEW2 LAIRD (JAMES1) was born Abt. 1755 in Allen Township, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania, and died February 1821 in South Middleton township, > Cumberland > county, Pennsylvania. He married ELIZABETH LAIRD. She was born Abt. 1759 in > South Middleton, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died Bef. March 02, 1820 in > South Middleton township, Cumberland county, Pennsylva. > > > Children of MATHEW LAIRD and ELIZABETH LAIRD are: > > i. ELIZABETH3 LAIRD, m. HENRY BURKHOLDER. > > ii. MATTHEW LAIRD. > > iii. WILLIAM LAIRD. > > 9. iv. FRANCIS LAIRD, b. Adams County, Pennsylvania; d. April 06, 1854, > Westmoreland county, Pennsylvania. > > 10. v. JAMES LAIRD, b. May 11, 1761, Allen Township, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania; d. February 15, 1846, Montour county, Pennsylvania. > > vi. JOHN M. LAIRD, b. 1797, Carlilse, Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania; d. > March > 12, 1849, New Bloomfield, Pennsylvania; m. JULIA POWERS. > > vii. SAMUEL LAIRD. > > viii. RACHAEL LAIRD. > > > > Generation No. 3 > > > 6. JAMES3 LAIRD (HUGH2, JAMES1) was born December 12, 1753 in West > Pennsboro > Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died October 10, 1834 in Newville, > Cumberland, Pennsylvania. He married (1) JANE MCCLURE Abt. 1786 in > Frankford > Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, daughter of ROBERT MCCLURE and > MARGARET DOUGLAS. She was born August 19, 1763 in West Pennsboro Township, > Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania, and died Bef. 1802 in Frankford, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania. He married (2) CATHARINE ALLEN May 1802 in Frankford > Township, > Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She was born June 1764 in Baltimore, > Maryland, and died January 15, 1850 in Frankford, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania. > > > Children of JAMES LAIRD and JANE MCCLURE are: > > i. HUGH4 LAIRD, b. January 08, 1787, Frankford Township, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania; d. September 30, 1815, Frankford Township, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania. > > ii. ROBERT LAIRD, b. November 11, 1788, Frankford, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania; > d. January 15, 1848, Frankford, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > > 11. iii. MARGARET LAIRD, b. December 09, 1790, West Pennsboro, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania; d. May 30, 1855, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > > iv. ANNA LAIRD, b. December 10, 1791, Frankford, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; > d. September 17, 1867, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; m. (1) > JAMES LOGAN, March 23, 1824, Carlisle, Pennsylvania; b. 1782; d. October > 26, > 1828, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; m. (2) JAMES DAVIDSON, > April 15, 1831; b. 1790, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania; d. > September 27, 1858, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > > v. THOMAS LAIRD, b. April 20, 1794, Frankford, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; d. > April 19, 1830, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > > vi. JANE LAIRD, b. July 26, 1797. > > vii. JAMES LAIRD, b. July 26, 1797; d. July 31, 1797. > > > Children of JAMES LAIRD and CATHARINE ALLEN are: > > viii. MARY4 LAIRD, b. Aft. 1802. > > ix. JOHN LAIRD, b. Aft. 1803. > > 7. JANE3 LAIRD (HUGH2, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1766 in Allen Township, > Cumberland, Pennsylvania. She married WILLIAM MCMEEN. > > > Children of JANE LAIRD and WILLIAM MCMEEN are: > > i. ANN4 MCMEEN. > > ii. GRIZZEL MCMEEN. > > 8. STEWART3 LAIRD (HUGH2, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1768 in Allen Township, > Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died in Juniata County, Pennsylvania. > > > Children of STEWART LAIRD are: > > i. WILSON4 LAIRD. > > ii. PRISCILLA LAIRD, m. HUSBAND ROBINSON. > > iii. THOMAS LAIRD. > > iv. HUGH LAIRD. > > v. SAMUEL LAIRD. > > 9. FRANCIS3 LAIRD (MATHEW2, JAMES1) was born in Adams County, Pennsylvania, > and died April 06, 1854 in Westmoreland county, Pennsylvania. He married > MARY MOORE 1803. > > > Children of FRANCIS LAIRD and MARY MOORE are: > > i. MARY4 LAIRD, m. WILLIAM B. STEWART. > > 12. ii. ELIZA M. LAIRD. > > 10. JAMES3 LAIRD (MATHEW2, JAMES1) was born May 11, 1761 in Allen Township, > Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died February 15, 1846 in Montour county, > Pennsylvania. He married (1) MARY MCFARLAND February 12, 1788, daughter of > JOHN MCFARLAND and MARY. She was born November 15, 1770, and died July 24, > 1796. He married (2) SARAH WATSON May 11, 1797. She was born January 21, > 1772. > > > Children of JAMES LAIRD and MARY MCFARLAND are: > > 13. i. JOHN4 LAIRD, b. August 02, 1789; d. September 23, 1862, Lairdsville, > Lycoming County, Pennsylvania. > > ii. WILLIAM LAIRD, b. October 11, 1791. > > iii. MARY LAIRD, b. March 15, 1794. > > > Children of JAMES LAIRD and SARAH WATSON are: > > iv. SAMUEL4 LAIRD, b. March 08, 1798. > > v. JANE MCKINNEY. > > vi. JAMES LAIRD, b. July 27, 1801; d. Bef. 1806. > > vii. JAMES LAIRD, b. October 21, 1806. > > viii. THOMAS LAIRD, b. March 21, 1810. > > > > Generation No. 4 > > > 11. MARGARET4 LAIRD (JAMES3, HUGH2, JAMES1) was born December 09, 1790 in > West Pennsboro, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, and died May 30, 1855 in > Newville, > Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She married JOHN MCDOWELL March 12, 1818 > in > Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, son of JOHN MCDOWELL and > MARGARET > HUTTON. He was born November 13, 1778 in West Pennsboro, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania, and died June 29, 1829 in Newville, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania. > > > Children of MARGARET LAIRD and JOHN MCDOWELL are: > > 14. i. MARGARET5 MCDOWELL, b. June 29, 1819, Frankford Township, Cumberland > County, Pennsylvania. > > ii. JANE MCDOWELL, b. January 23, 1821, West Pennsboro Township, Cumberland > County, Pennsylvania; d. February 19, 1892, Carlisle, Cumberland County, > PA. > > iii. JOHN MCDOWELL, b. November 30, 1822; d. July 27, 1857, Newville, > Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > > iv. MARY MCDOWELL, b. October 04, 1824, West Pennsboro, Cumberland, > Pennsylvania; d. August 12, 1880, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. > > 15. v. JAMES LAIRD MCDOWELL, b. October 29, 1826, Newville, Cumberland > County, Pennsylvania; d. December 21, 1904, Elkton, Colorado. > > vi. SAMUEL ALEXANDER MCDOWELL, b. October 20, 1828, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania; d. January 03, 1887, Carlisle, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania; m. HESTER MCCLELLAN, September 12, 1860, Carlisle, Cumberland > County, Pennsylvania; b. Abt. 1830, Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pa; d. > Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > > 12. ELIZA M.4 LAIRD (FRANCIS3, MATHEW2, JAMES1) She married JAMES RAMSEY > JOHNSTON. He was born October 29, 1803. > > > Children of ELIZA LAIRD and JAMES JOHNSTON are: > > i. FRANCIS LAIRD5 JOHNSTON. > > ii. WILLIAM JOHNSTON. > > 13. JOHN4 LAIRD (JAMES3, MATHEW2, JAMES1) was born August 02, 1789, and > died > September 23, 1862 in Lairdsville, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania. He > married > MARGARET SMITH November 22, 1810. She was born June 02, 1790. > > > Children of JOHN LAIRD and MARGARET SMITH are: > > i. MARY5 LAIRD, b. December 26, 1811. > > ii. HUGH LAIRD, b. February 18, 1813. > > 16. iii. JAMES LAIRD, b. April 01, 1814; d. January 1882, Hughesville, > Lycoming County, Pennsylvania. > > iv. ELIZABETH LAIRD, b. September 07, 1819. > > v. JOHN LAIRD, b. February 19, 1822. > > vi. WILLIAM LAIRD, b. January 03, 1832. > > > > Generation No. 5 > > > 14. MARGARET5 MCDOWELL (MARGARET4 LAIRD, JAMES3, HUGH2, JAMES1) was born > June 29, 1819 in Frankford Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She > married ISAIAH GRAHAM MACFARLANE January 01, 1845, son of JOHN MACFARLANE > and MARTHA GRAHAM. He was born in Perry County, Pennsylvania, and died in > Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. > > > Children of MARGARET MCDOWELL and ISAIAH MACFARLANE are: > > i. ELIZABETH6 MACFARLANE, b. April 03; m. JAMES I. BUCHANAN. > > ii. JOHN FINLEY MACFARLANE, b. October 22, 1845; d. Abt. 1874. > > iii. ANNA MARY MACFARLANE, b. September 25, 1847; m. ELIAKIM TORRANCE, > September 22, 1868. > > iv. JAMES GRAHAM MACFARLANE, b. December 02, 1848. > > v. MARGARET LAIRD MACFARLANE, b. April 18, 1851; m. JOHN MITCHELL > PATTERSON, > October 29, 1874. > > vi. MARTHA ALICE MACFARLANE, b. June 14, 1853; d. May 15, 1889. > > vii. SAMUEL STARRETT MACFARLANE, b. April 22, 1860; m. IDA WILLET, June 27, > 1887. > > 15. JAMES LAIRD5 MCDOWELL (MARGARET4 LAIRD, JAMES3, HUGH2, JAMES1) was born > October 29, 1826 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, and died > December 21, 1904 in Elkton, Colorado. He married (1) MARY ISABELLA BLEAN > August 12, 1862 in Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, daughter of > ROBERT BLEAN and MARGARET SCOULLER. She was born March 07, 1836 in > Pennsylvania, and died February 12, 1865 in Newville, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania, 28 years 11 months 5 days. He married (2) DORCAS ROSELINA > COLLINS October 10, 1867, daughter of DAVID COLLINS and MARY MANIFOLD. She > was born October 22, 1837 in Pennsylvania, and died July 26, 1894 in > Manhattan, Riley County, Kansas. > > > Children of JAMES MCDOWELL and MARY BLEAN are: > > i. MARGARET LAIRD6 MCDOWELL, b. July 29, 1863, Newville, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania; d. April 07, 1884, Newville, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, > 20 year 8 months and 8 days. > > ii. ROBERT BLEAN MCDOWELL, b. January 25, 1865, Newville, Cumberland > County, > Pennsylvania; d. February 01, 1865, Newville, Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania. > > > Children of JAMES MCDOWELL and DORCAS COLLINS are: > > iii. RALPH EWING6 MCDOWELL, b. October 01, 1868, Leavenworth, Kansas; d. > August 12, 1902, Fort Clark, Texas. > > iv. JAMES LAIRD MCDOWELL JR., b. May 30, 1871, Nortonville, Jefferson > County, Kansas; d. Abt. 1951, Tucson, Pima County, Arizona; m. TENA WAYNE > KNOX, January 03, 1899; b. November 23, 1873, Clyde, Cloud County, Kansas; > d. December 12, 1963, Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona. > > v. DAVID COLLINS MCDOWELL, b. April 09, 1873, Nortonville, Jefferson > County, > Kansas; d. May 26, 1949, Billings, Montana; m. ELIZABETH LEE STINGLEY, > March > 1899, Cripple Creek, Colorado; d. Billings, Montana. > > vi. ROSE EDITH MCDOWELL, b. March 20, 1875, Nortonville, Jefferson County, > Kansas; d. 1966, Freemont, California; m. GEORGE HELDER, November 16, 1914, > Victor, Colorado; b. October 29, 1872; d. 1942. > > vii. SAMUEL ALEXANDER MCDOWELL, b. April 14, 1877, Nortonville, Jefferson > County, Kansas; d. May 23, 1959, Billings, Montana; m. DAISY DAY, October > 16, 1912, Onaga, Kansas; b. October 15, 1876, Onaga, Kansas; d. April 19, > 1982, Billings, Montana. > > viii. GEORGE GARFIELD MCDOWELL, b. May 18, 1879, Nortonville, Jefferson > County, Kansas; d. Russia; m. TONY, Unknown, George Married in Russia, his > old mother-in-law was a baptist--unhappy; b. Russia. > > ix. EDWARD PURCELL MCDOWELL, b. January 12, 1882, Nortonville, Jefferson > County, Kansas; d. February 02, 1949, Billings, Montana; m. FREDIA > PATTERSON. > > 16. JAMES5 LAIRD (JOHN4, JAMES3, MATHEW2, JAMES1) was born April 01, 1814, > and died January 1882 in Hughesville, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania. He > married RUTH A. CARVER. She died June 07, 1891. > > > Children of JAMES LAIRD and RUTH CARVER are: > > i. E. LIVINGSTON6 LAIRD. > > ii. MARTHA LAIRD, m. J. K. RISHEL. > > iii. WILLIAM L. LAIRD. > > iv. H. NEWTON LAIRD. > > v. JOHN C. LAIRD, b. May 21, 1844; m. SOPHIA S. TALLMAN, June 06, 1867. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <PLairdhoward@aol.com> > To: <LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 2:20 AM > Subject: [LAIRD] Tena's genealogy > > > > Tena, > > I have been waiting to send the newsletter to Robert in hopes that > > I would hear from you. Please e-mail me, lets work on your first > generation > > and then post your information to the newsletter. I am sorry that we did > > not get this taken care of back in August when I first planned to write > to > > you but I got so busy that I forgot. I am so glad that you did not leave > > the Laird list. 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