Terry, I have not seen the 1870 census information on Moses R. Laird of Newton, Newtonia Twp., MO., but it would appear that he is a descendant of my ancestor Hugh Laird son of John Laird and Agnes Black. Moses Reece Laird born 19 July 1819 married Eliza Jane Jarvis 5 Dec 1839. They had a son named James born 12 March 1845. This family resided in Ohio, Wisconsin, Missouri (Newton County) and Kansas according to two descendants that I was in contact with in the early 1980's. Is this the family you are seeking? This Moses Reece Laird was the son of William Laird and Mary Davis of York County, PA., son of Hugh Laird and Mary of York County, PA., son of John Laird and Agnes Black of Lancaster County, PA. Sincerely, Patricia Laird Howard

Hi My name is Terry. My fathers father was James Laird, son of James R. Laird, from Neosho, Mo. I have seen Moses R. Laird listed as an ancester but know nothing else about him. I would appreciate any information you can share on him. Thank you so much, Terry Sharon4mus@aol.com wrote: > The following Lard/Lairds are listed in the Missouri 1870 Census Indexes. The > index gives name of head of household or others of another surname or over 70 > in the same household, gender, race, age, birthplace, county, township/city, > census roll # and page. The list below only has name, age, birthplace, > county, township. I have the other information if someone wants to privately > e-mail me. > > Laird > D C, 57, IL, Montgomery, Upper Loutre > David, 63, VA, Chariton, Brunswick P O > Henry, 43, MO, Pike, Spencer Twp > John, 58, VA, Chariton, Brunswick P O > Ketun A, 38, MO, Pike, Spencer Twp > Milla, 13 (f), (b), MO, Chariton, Brunswick P O > Moses R, 51, PA, Newton, Newtonia Twp > Polk, 26, (m), (b), MO, Chariton, Brunswick P O > Robert, 27, MO, Grundy, Jefferson Twp > William, 30, PA, Ralls, Clay Twp > > Leard > A C, 57, IL, DAviess, Jefferson Twp > Robert J, 27, IL, Daviess, Jefferson Twp > > Lard > Ike, 10, MO, Audrain, Cuivre Twp > James, 39, TN, Bollinger, Liberty Twp > Robt, 20, (b), MO, St Louis, 6 Wd, 14 Sub Divn > Susan, 40, MO, Pike, Peno Twp > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > LFA Newsletter idea? e-mail Patricia Laird Howard > at pahoward@concentric.net

<< James, 39, TN, Bollinger, Liberty Twp >> Hi, Sharon! Do you have anything in particular on this one? We've talked before, but just wondered if you have anything that I don't have since you read this census... Oh, and for some reason when I tried to write to you privately, there was a mailer daemon return "host unknown" Thanks! Bobbi

The following Lard/Lairds are listed in the Missouri 1870 Census Indexes. The index gives name of head of household or others of another surname or over 70 in the same household, gender, race, age, birthplace, county, township/city, census roll # and page. The list below only has name, age, birthplace, county, township. I have the other information if someone wants to privately e-mail me. Laird D C, 57, IL, Montgomery, Upper Loutre David, 63, VA, Chariton, Brunswick P O Henry, 43, MO, Pike, Spencer Twp John, 58, VA, Chariton, Brunswick P O Ketun A, 38, MO, Pike, Spencer Twp Milla, 13 (f), (b), MO, Chariton, Brunswick P O Moses R, 51, PA, Newton, Newtonia Twp Polk, 26, (m), (b), MO, Chariton, Brunswick P O Robert, 27, MO, Grundy, Jefferson Twp William, 30, PA, Ralls, Clay Twp Leard A C, 57, IL, DAviess, Jefferson Twp Robert J, 27, IL, Daviess, Jefferson Twp Lard Ike, 10, MO, Audrain, Cuivre Twp James, 39, TN, Bollinger, Liberty Twp Robt, 20, (b), MO, St Louis, 6 Wd, 14 Sub Divn Susan, 40, MO, Pike, Peno Twp

Thanks to everybody who's sent information about my Charles Laird of Pleasant Valley problem. From my notes, I tried hard to find him in 1993 (been working on this project for over 10 years now!), but I seem to have run into too many possibilities; maybe this summer I can take a concentrated look at the 1860 census, especially for Ohio & Pennsylvania. On the chance that you might enjoy the letter, I'm enclosing it below. By the way, "Uncle Merry" is NOT a member of the Laird family! The subscribers liked to think of themselves as "Cousins", with the editors of the magazine as "Uncle" & "Aunt". "Uncle Merry" is "Robert Merry", the supposed editor of the magazine. Pat Pflieger feste@keystonenet.com (from "Robert Merry's Museum", Aug 1860, p. 60) Pleasant Valley, June 20, 1860. Dear Uncle Merry:--I take the liberty to call you Uncle, for I presume you are Uncle to all who take the Museum. I am six years old, and mamma said that if I would speak on the stage at our school exhibition, she would give me a gold dollar. I did speak, and here is the dollar, which I send you for the Museum this year; and mamma is going to give me one dollar more for not drinking tea or coffee this year, which I will send to you for the Museum next year. Direct to your nephew, Charlie Laird.

I'm trying to trace my Laird roots (my mom was a Laird) past Archibald Laird. He was my great-great grandfather, married to Malinda Graham. My Archibald was born in 1816. He and Malinda were married and raised their family in Newton County, Mississippi. My grandfather, Ivy Melvin Laird, always said our family line came from South Carolina. But I've been unsuccessful in going back past Archibald. Any information on this Archibald and Malinda Graham would open up a whole new avenue for me. Thanks a bunch!

Looking for information on a George Laird in Louisiana in the late 1800's. He married a Callie Smith, who was from Hattiesburg, Mississippi. They ended up in Sugartown, Louisiana and had a daughter named Elnora who was born in 1875 in Sugartown, LA. Elnora married a Raleigh Iles. Any information would be appreciated. Scott Lazenby lazyboyroyjr@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

My GGGG-grandfather Samuel had a son Charles who was born about 1834, but he was from Pleasant City, Guernsey County, Ohio; about 40 miles and 20 years off. Paul Laird -----Original Message----- From: stuart@adnc.com [SMTP:stuart@adnc.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 11:15 AM To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAIRD] Charles Laird of Pleasant Valley Hello Pat, Pleasant Valley is a "Neighborhood" of Coshocton, Ohio. All my Lairds are from there, but I have no Charles in my family ancestors. Patsy Laird from Dallas, Georgia also has Lairds in Coshocton. Maybe she knows Charles.>> patsylaird@aol.com .............Cap'n Curtiss Cap'n Curtiss stuart@adnc.com ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== List problem or question? e-mail Russell Laird at rlaird@1starnet.com

I'm editing a collection of letters originally published in a 19th-century children's magazine, and hope I can exchange information with someone. One person I'm researching signed himself Charles LAIRD, from "Pleasant Valley" (no state), in 1860. He was born around 1854. And, this is literally all I know about him. Does Charlie sound familiar to anyone? I admit this is quite a long shot, but I wanted to cover all my bases before the manuscript goes to the publisher in September. I'd be grateful for any information anyone can give me and happily share whatever I find. Pat Pflieger feste@keystonenet.com

Hello Pat, Pleasant Valley is a "Neighborhood" of Coshocton, Ohio. All my Lairds are from there, but I have no Charles in my family ancestors. Patsy Laird from Dallas, Georgia also has Lairds in Coshocton. Maybe she knows Charles.>> patsylaird@aol.com .............Cap'n Curtiss Cap'n Curtiss stuart@adnc.com

There is a Pleasant Valley, Pennsylvania - near Pittsburgh.

You know I really meant the comment about us just might being Irish as an attempt at humor but I also appreciate the articles by Ian and Ken, they have done a lot of work on this history and I for appreciate it Thank you Hugh Laird

Thank you, Ken, for the history and insight. The DONFAM site URL I find is: http://www.donfam.com/ and I would guess this is the site you mentioned. Russell

Thanks Paul..but be very careful not to confuse your names: "Bonnie Prince Charlie was born in exile (Rome Dec 31, 1720), sometimes referred to as the "Young Pretender" (he was the son of the "Old Pretender"..James or the Jacobite James lll ).. Our Bonnie never became King, being defeated in his rebellion against George ll by George's son (Duke of Cumberland or "Butcher Cumberland"). Ian is correct about the many "Lairds" who arrived in N Ireland, but these date back probably a century or so earlier to the Ulster Plantations ..at the end of Eliz l's reign and into James Vl reign .With the concurrent "flight of the Earls", ie the exile of the Irish 'earls" (not equivalent to English earls, they were more like regional minor kings) a vacuum was created in the "estate and landlord business" and this was then deftly filled by the new settlers. These plantations were, of course, followed by more...and thus the very high percentage of Scottish backgrounds in N Ireland. And while the name Laird if proudly Scottish, many spent years in Ireland before crossing the Atlantic. I myself am from ireland and have managed to go back to the 1600's in some of my ancestors families, however with the Laird's there is this barrier, and although I can pick up Lairds earlier (army records, deeds and so on) there is a large Gap in the 18th C. which I'm still trying valiantly to explore. Incidentally, for many of you who may be searching Irish Records, such areas as the DONFAM site may prove worthwhile (Donegal Families....where many of the Irish Lairds resided)..Both in the N of the county (around Raphoe) and in the S of the county (around Ballyshannon) where I happen to be from.... Ken Laird.

My Grandmother, Sallie Laird, always said that we are 'Scotch-Irish'. Loie LMB (Loie Boyd ) lmb@dolby.com 415-645-5105 Dolby Laboratories SF, CA -----Original Message----- From: INSLaird@cs.com [mailto:INSLaird@cs.com] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 2:29 AM To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAIRD] Spellings Ken is quite right about the Laird family in Ireland, as many of you will already know, as he points out, as "settlers". By this he refers to the process more commonly known as "transplantation". There was a huge effort, largely by the English to subdue the "unruly natives", largely Roman Catholic, by encouraging Scots, mostly Lowland and largely Protestant to move to Ireland with grants of land in the 17th Century. A dreadful thing for cousins, but convenient to have someone to blame, and it's usually the English (cf. "Braveheart?). It is this that is at the root of the problems in Ireland that have erupted again this century, as in the North, the population is still a majority Protestant and "loyalist", preferring to remain with the "Union" with England, Scotland and Wales rather than uniting with the largely Roman Catholic Republic of Ireland (Eire) in the South. There has rarely been peace or prosperity in Ireland for any significant period, which is why so many Irish are over there in the USA, and some came back to the mainland. This is too complicated an issue for just one e-mail and no judgement is intended here. My Great Grandmother's Father, Stuart Aitchison came to Glasgow from Londonderry! These "Irish" are offten referred to in the USA as "Scotch Irish", or over here as "Transplanted Scots". So there you have it. The Lairds are usually of Scots origin, and in our case of Norse ancestry and, before that, who knows? So who can really say who we really are! But we are all "Lairds" and invariably proud of it! Yours aye Iain http://ourworld.cs.com/INSLaird/ ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== LFA Newsletter idea? e-mail Patricia Laird Howard at pahoward@concentric.net

Thanks for sharing that, I know exactly what you mean. Part of me thinks, I am amazed at all the paperwork I HAVE found, and now every time I sign a document, I try to make it a little neater, because future generations might search and find it! Another part of me thinks, with all the uncertainty at times trying to determine if someone is "ours," I wish we could start having DNA identification for things! But then, some people this day and age don't WANT to be found (hmmm... maybe things haven't changed so much. Maybe some of those in earlier generations didn't WANT to be found, and that could explain our difficulties?) Oh well, just thinking with my (typing) fingers.... Bobbi Laird klaird@kawartha.com writes: << If there are some strong corollaries, then one can at least proceed to the next stage of examining land titles, wills, geographical locations, townlands and so on. I realise that this suggestion may be anathema to some purists, but we all know the extent to which names were changed to become more "socially acceptable" at different periods in the histories of various cultures. >>

Hi Jay Thank you so much for this information. I had not seen the Laird name spelled Leard, I've only just started looking for this side of the family and this is a great start. I appreciate you taking the time. Sue > -----Original Message----- > From: JLaird4715@aol.com [mailto:JLaird4715@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 12:27 AM > To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LAIRD] Martha Blair > > > Hi Sue, > > Martha Blair is mentioned in the will of John Leard of Cumberland > Township, > York (now Adams) County. > > will book B page 54 written May 20, 1766 > > John mentions his wife Martha, daughters Martha Blair and Mary > Neelson, and > sons John, William and Robert > > > Jay Laird > > > ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== > List problem or question? > e-mail Russell Laird at rlaird@1starnet.com > >

Ken is quite right about the Laird family in Ireland, as many of you will already know, as he points out, as "settlers". By this he refers to the process more commonly known as "transplantation". There was a huge effort, largely by the English to subdue the "unruly natives", largely Roman Catholic, by encouraging Scots, mostly Lowland and largely Protestant to move to Ireland with grants of land in the 17th Century. A dreadful thing for cousins, but convenient to have someone to blame, and it's usually the English (cf. "Braveheart?). It is this that is at the root of the problems in Ireland that have erupted again this century, as in the North, the population is still a majority Protestant and "loyalist", preferring to remain with the "Union" with England, Scotland and Wales rather than uniting with the largely Roman Catholic Republic of Ireland (Eire) in the South. There has rarely been peace or prosperity in Ireland for any significant period, which is why so many Irish are over there in the USA, and some came back to the mainland. This is too complicated an issue for just one e-mail and no judgement is intended here. My Great Grandmother's Father, Stuart Aitchison came to Glasgow from Londonderry! These "Irish" are offten referred to in the USA as "Scotch Irish", or over here as "Transplanted Scots". So there you have it. The Lairds are usually of Scots origin, and in our case of Norse ancestry and, before that, who knows? So who can really say who we really are! But we are all "Lairds" and invariably proud of it! Yours aye Iain http://ourworld.cs.com/INSLaird/

Several Lairds came over from Ireland. Bonnie Prince Charles, later King Charles, banished many of the Scottish Lairds to Ireland. Some of them later emmigrated to the New World in the mid-18th century. Paul Laird -----Original Message----- From: LAIRDHE@aol.com [SMTP:LAIRDHE@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 6:03 PM To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAIRD] Spellings Are you insinuating that we just might be Irish? How about all the years we have researched Scotland, Ian what about this? ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== List problem or question? e-mail Russell Laird at rlaird@1starnet.com

When I was a lad of 18 I worked at a bomb factory in Illinois. I rode to work with a Margaret Lardi. I always wondered if we were related. Yesterday I discovered a Laird family here in my town, and his grandfather's last name was spelled both Laird and Lardi. Is this another variation others have heard? Paul Laird -----Original Message----- From: Sharon4mus@aol.com [SMTP:Sharon4mus@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 12:38 PM To: LAIRD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAIRD] Spellings We have discussed all the ways the real name could be spelled. I may have mentioned this in the past, but since we have a lot of new people on the list it may be worth mentioning again. When searching indexes, be aware of the kinds of mistakes the person making the index might make. For example, I have found the name Lard indexed as Sard, Sand, Lord, Land. Horatio Nelson Lard is in 1860 Indiana Census Index as Horation Nelson Land. ==== LAIRD Mailing List ==== Laird Resource Page: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/l/a/LAIRD/