I felt it very important that this information be posted to the Desoto Mailing List also. Hope someone will recognize something. Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick -----Original Message----- From: JamesSmee@aol.com <JamesSmee@aol.com> To: PYLE-L@rootsweb.com <PYLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, July 07, 2001 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [PYLE] Jeremiah Pyle- DeSoto Parish, LA > >Hello Elnora, > >Household #379 in 1850 DeSoto Parish LA is Margaret PILES [55; born GA], >Jeremiah M. PILES [17; born AL], Rebecca J. PILES [15; born AL], and Suntha >[Cynthia?] E. PILES [15; born AL]. Margaret is the widow of Thomas PILES, >who as I understand it, died right around 1850. > >I don't see a Jeremiah PILES/PYLE household in the index to the 1860 DeSoto >Parish census. Other PILESs are on pages 920 through 950, or thereabouts. >Eventually, I'll take a look at that microfilm, and maybe Jeremiah will pop >up. Since he received a patent to a tract of land there in 1860 (your >records), and seems to have served with others of this line across the Sabine >River in TX during the Civil War, it seems like he would be found somewhere >in DeSoto Parish in 1860. Perhaps Doris HAYNES or some other researcher of >this line has run into Jeremiah PILES/PYLE in 1860. > >Have you found your Thomas WHITE in a household in 1860? Seems like he would >be in AR or in TX, based upon what the 1870 census information for the places >of birth of the children indicates. I would be curious to see if Sarah (born >c1835) appears as his wife then. If you only have the 1870 census to go on, >I still think it's a real possibility that Sarah was married, earlier, to >Jeremiah PILES. I can't think of another way that she would have wound up >owning the very tract that Jeremiah PILES was granted in 1860. > >How is it that you know or believe Sarah was a PYLE/PILES when she married >Thomas WHITE (presumably around 1850, if she was his first and only wife)? >From what you have posted, it seems like you have not found a marriage >record, right? If I were you, I might look for a marriage in GA of a Thomas WHITE to anyone, around 1850, as this might prove to be Thomas WHITE's first >wife. > >I enjoy problems (puzzles) like this, and hope you can make some progress. >If you have information that quickly shoots down this thinking (such as a >Thomas and Sarah WHITE household in 1860 somewhere), please let me know. > >Jim Smee >Pittsburgh PA Hi James, Thank you for the info, I too had found those records on the DeSoto Parish Page, but did not know that Margaret was the widow of a "Thomas Pyle". The land description on our Lease matched the one found on the BLM site for Jeremiah Pyle in DeSoto Parish, LA. I did it by entering the description and County, State only, I had no idea what name would be brought up, I had no record for a Jeremiah. The only (questionable) family history I have on this says that Sarah Ann was the daughter of Peter Pyle, but that has been ruled out by descendants of that Line with very good documentation, so I was happy to learn of a new name as a possibility. Don't confuse this Land thing, I did not say she owned that land; Her descendants were part ;of an Oil and Gas Lease on that land, with an R.L. Pyle of Caddo Parish, and a ( Mrs Cordie L Pyle, Registar Et Al). I do not know why my family was contacted and received payments (amount unknown) on this land or why this Lease was made with them, I am beginning to fear there may have been a mistake in identity, (they thinking our Sarah Ann was Peter Pyle's daughter)? The Only proof I have of Sarah Ann's maiden name are death certificates for 2 of her children, and handwritten notes by my Grandfather giving the name (Pyle) as that of his Maternal Grandmother. I have not found a marriage record, nor have I found any other census for the Thomas & Sarah White Family, 1850 or 60. I have thought of all the issues you raise, and agree that it is a (puzzle/mystery). My Mother even had an attorney investigate it in 1985, when she was settling my Grandfather's Estate and wrote to the Love Petroleum Co., in Jackson, MS with no results that I have been able to find. Sure hope someone recognizes something that can help. Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick >