This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YCB.2ACI/150.402.1.1.1 Message Board Post: George Washington Ryan was JJR Seniors' son or JJR Junior? I must be under the misguided impression JJR Senior only had two boys Issac Ryan (the one killed at the Alamo) and JJR Junior the "Father of Lake Charles." I also thought Junior had two boys one of whom never married and had no children and James Ira my link. I know zip about the Whites. I do have some goofy pictures of George Edward & Helen White. You know, the black & whites when no one smiled. P.S. I am a man, so trying to commit details to memory is really asking for trouble.