I recently wrote to the list about my inability to find a death record for my great grandfather, William Henry Hortman who died in 1920. I asked for tips on how to get both cemetary and marriage records. Many thanks to all of you who wrote back with some great tips on where else to look for information. Kudos to Carolyn who told me not to give up with the state records office but to have them try different combinations of his name. That triggered me to remember that at times I have seen Hortman misspelled as Hartman so I called the records office and Voila! They found the death record under William Henry Hartman. The lady there that helped me was very nice and said that in the future when requesting a record to put down the different ways it might be spelled. Although she had looked under other spellings on the same microfilm, she had not thought to look at Hartman, which was on another microfilm. Bless all of you who have been so very helpful and pointed me in the right direction. thanks Judy