Hi Alice! Thanks to Brenda you have the link to Save Our Cemeteries. I couldn't find it at the moment, so I thank her, too. Also, I had posted the Algiers Firemen's Cemetery on Webster Ave and didn't know the present name of the street. I now know that it is the south side of Whitney Ave. Found an old Sewerage & Water Board map in the book "Old Algiers" with the info. Also again, the Westbank Genealogy Society records inscriptions from time to time at different westbank cemeteries and would welcome any volunteers. We just finished up at St. Bartholomew's in Algiers and will be publishing it in upcoming quarterlies. We could email you when we plan another session if you would be interested. Getting too hot now, so probably won't do any more til the fall or next spring. Let us know and we'll just email you. Thanks! Rita __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Hi List, I am searching for burial information on Jean Nicolas BRINGOL, Born: 20 July 1803, and his wife, Elizabeth Nicolas, Born: 27 March 1800, emigrated from Dept de La Moselle, France, arrived in New Orleans, LA on 7 March 1846. The 1850 US census shows the family was residing in New Orleans. Their children were Constantin; Marie who married Antoine Grandadam; Jean Nicolas Emile who married Catherine Smith; Jean Batiste who married Ann Gaspard Smith; Adelphine Hortense; Marguerite who married Edward Rolland; Felicite who married Vincent Prats and Gertrude. Jean Nicolas Emile and Jean Batiste relocated to Avoyelles Parish. The others remained in New Orleans, LA Don Bringol Bringol@kricket.net

Brenda, thank you for the site!:) Alice

Go to www.saveourcemeteries.org Lots of info. there. Brenda A-mae-znCajun@webtv.net (SwampQueen;) wrote: Hello Rita, I live in Algires Point. I'd like to volunteer to work with Save Our Cemetery people. Would you have a phone number or an email address or web site of whom to contact? thank you, alice ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

Hello Rita, I live in Algires Point. I'd like to volunteer to work with Save Our Cemetery people. Would you have a phone number or an email address or web site of whom to contact? thank you, alice

Hi List. We are looking for the burial site's of "Joseph Froisin Chiasson b. 1841 d. 1870/71 and his wife Emilie Chiasson (Guilbert)". She passed away according to family verbal history in 1878/80. JOSEPH FROIZIN (FROISIN) CHIASSON parent's are Joseph Chiasson and Madeline Gott. We would appreciate any information on these two. Thank you Leo & Connie Lafayette, La. CLLANDRY37@MSN.COM<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

Ok listers. I was in the library today letting the city directories crumble in my hands when I happened to find a list of all N.O. cemeteries in existence as of 1901 along with their locations. I'm posting this to both the Orleans list and Cemeteries list so I don't miss anyone interested. Some street names have changed. S. Franklin is now Loyola Ave. and Customhouse is Iberville. Webster Ave. in Algiers should be different now but I can't find out what it is. Someone let me know if you find out!! Perrilliat and Cypress must be where the Superdome now stands since it is where the Girod Street Cemetery was. Everything else should be helpful to someone somewhere! >From Soard's 1901 City Directory: Campo Santo (or St. Roch) Cemetery - St. Roch Ave. between N. Derbigny and N. Roman. Campo Santo (or St. Roch) Cemetery No.2 - Between Music and Arts, N. Derbigny and N. Roman. Carrollton Cem. - Between Adams and Lowerline, Birch and Hickory. Charity Hospital Cemetery No.1 - northside of N. Metairie Rd., between Canal and Bienville Ave. Charity Hospital Cem. No.2 - Canal, Between S. Anthony and S. Metairie Rd. Chebre Thilim Cem. - east side of S. Anthony, between Canal and Cleveland. Chevre Mikveh Isreal Cem. - west side of S. Bernadotte, between Canal and Cleveland. Congregation Gates of Prayer Cem. - Joseph, between Pitt and Garfield. Cypress Grove Cemetery Nos. 1 and 2 - Metairie Rd., opposite Canal. Firemen's Cem. - Canal, corner S. Metairie Rd. Firemen's Cem. - Webster Ave., between Lamarque and Socrates (in Algiers). Girod Street Dem. - S. Liberty, between Perrilliat and Cypress. Greenwood Cem. - S. Metairie Rd., corner of Canal. Hebrew Association Cem. - Canal, bet S. Anthony and S. Bernadotte. Hebrew Cemetery (Congregation Dispersed of Judah) - Canal, between N. Helena and N. Metairie Rd. Hebrew Cemetery - Elysian Fields Ave., near Gentilly Ave. Hebrew Rest Cemetery - Jackson Ave., between Saratoga and S. Franklin. Holt's Cemetery - west side of Metairie Rd., between Bienville and Conti. Hughes (John) Cemetery - Vallette, between Lamarque and Socrates (in Algiers). Lafayette Dem No.1 - Washington Ave., between Coliseum and Prytania. Lafayette Cem. No. 2 - Washington Ave., between Saratoga and S. Franklin. Locust Grove Cemetery - Sixth, between S. Robertson and Freret. Masonic Cemetery - Bienville Ave. between N. Metairie Rd. and N. Anthony. Metairie Cemetery - New Shell Road and S. Metairie Rd.; office, Hennen Bldg. Odd Fellows Rest Cem. - Canal, northeast corner of N. Metairie Rd. Olivier Cem. - Verret, corner Opelousas Ave. (in Algiers). Potter's Field - west side of N. Metairie Rd., between Bienville and Orleans. St. Bartholomew Cem. - south side of DeArmas, between Nunez and Hermosa (in Algiers). St. John's Evangelical Lutheran Cem. - Canal, between N. Anthony and N. Bernadotte. St. Joseph's Orphan Asylum Cemetery No. 1 - South side of Washington Ave., between S. Franklin and S. Liberty. St. Joseph Orphan Asylum Cem. No. 2 - Sixth, between S. Franklin and S. Liberty. St. Louis Cem No.1 - between N. Basin and N. Liberty, Conti and St. Louis. St. Louis Cem. No.2 - Between Customhouse and St. Louis, N. Robertson and N. Claiborne. St. Louis Cem. No.3 - Esplanade Ave., near Bayou St. John. St. Mary's Catholic Cem. - north side of DeArmas, between Verret and Nunez. (Algiers) St. Patrick's Cemeteries Nos. 1 & 2 - Canal, near Metairie Rd. St. Patrick's Cem. No.3 - N. Metairie Rd., corner of Bienville Ave. St. Vincent Cem. No. 1 - Between Soniat and Dufossat, Saratoga and S. Franklin. St. Vincent Cem. No. 2 - Between Soniat and Dufossat, S. Franklin and S. Liberty. St. Vincent Cem. No.3 - Between Soniat and Dufossat, S. Liberty and Howard. St. Vincent De Paul Cem No.1 - Between Louisa and Piety, Urquhart and N. Villere. St. Vincent De Paul Cem No.2 - east side of Piety, between Urquhart and N. Villere. St. Vincent De Paul Cem No.3 - East side of Louisa, between N. Villere and N. Robertson. Termine Dereche Rest Cem. - Canal, between S. Bernadotte and S. Anthony. Touro Infirmary Cem. - Pitt, northwest corner of Joseph. U.S. Cemetery (Chalmette) - River bank, below city limits. Valence Street Cem. - southside of Valence, between S. Rampart and Saratoga. Hope it helps! Rita __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Hi Lists, Fran sent me the e-mail yesterday that I've added below. She forgot that I don't live anywhere near St. Martinville. She has some really good ideas. Perhaps those people on the list who live over that way can do some of these things. Might work! It's worth a try anyway. Brenda "WFrantastic@aol.com wrote: The Bishop has a bit of pull too, and he doesn't want any bad publicity. so I think that is where the pressure should be gently put and by local politicos. especially if they are Catholic. I also encourage you to get the Knights of Columbus involved with this also.. they are a Mens Catholic Society.. and are often politically active. and any of the catholic women's groups. and of course any and all students in the colleges and History departments... get stuff on their bullitin boards on campus. Get on those annoying talk radio shows and push this issue And get to talk to the people at your local TV station to get a "Human interest" story going here. How about the Americal Legion and other military groups like that Maybe even the DAR if there is a Rev Soldier burried there and the Civil war buffs for the Civil War dead there Are there any Cajun Clubs / Societies?? nail 'em Keep up the good work and keep me posted Fran" ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

Thought y'all might like to hear some good news for a change. On page B-1 of Baton Rouge's paper, THE ADVOCATE, this morning, there's a picture of two young men painting a grave. Below it reads: "TEAMWORK Cleveland Wilkins, foreground, and Eric Jackson work to spruce up the Shady Grove First Missionary Baptist Church cemetery on Wednesday on La. 67 north of Baton Rouge. The pair also pulled overgrown weeds and cut trees around all 148 graves that date to the late 1800s." It looks as if they've done an excellent job. It's good to know that some people care. Brenda ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

Lists, Below is the response that I just received from Dr. Eubanks. While it doesn't offer a legal solution to the problem in St. Martinville, it's always good to explore all possible avenues. Perhaps going back to the Cemeteries Act, we will find a loophole. Please note: This is being posted directly to both the LA-CEMETERIES and ACADIAN-CAJUN lists. No need to re-post. Brenda "Dear Ms. Perkins: Because the St. Martinville Cemetery is the property of the church, they have control of activities within the cemetery. The Division of Archaeology coordinates the Louisiana Unmarked Human Burial Sites Act. The Unmarked Human Sites Board has jurisdiction for issuing permits for the removal and disposition of human remains that are not from within a marked cemetery. Unfortunately there is little I can offer to help in this situation. Working with officials of the church is the only approach that I can recommend. Sincerely, Thomas Hales Eubanks, Ph.D., RPA State Archaeologist Division of Archaeology 1051 N. 3rd St. P. O. Box 44247 Baton Rouge, LA 70804" ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

Does any one know on ST. Louis 3? Looking for Rivardes.

Hello. Doe's anyone know the burial site of (Oliver Landry b. Abt. 1766 in Canada - d. 1807). He was married to (Marie Magdeline Hebert b. Abt. 1766 In Canada - d. ? ). We are really looking for both site's if available. Thanks Leo P. Landry Lafayette, La. CLLANDRY37@MSN.COM<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

Hi Lists, I'm sending this to both the LA-CEMETERIES and ACADIAN-CAJUN lists so please don't start cross-posting it. It's going there already. For those of you who have "delicate" stomachs, you might not want to read this. I wrote to Mary Manhein at LSU. She's the lady who's called out to the field when bodies are found. She also does facial reconstruction on skulls to help identify the remains. (Kinda like the guy on CSI but for real!) I wanted to know how much decomposition might have taken place since we've had embalming since the Civil War here in the US. By the way, if you haven't already seen it, the Cemeteries Act she refers to can be found at: http://lcb.state.la.us/legal.html So, here's something else for you to think about. And, honestly, don't read it if you tend to get a bit queasy. Brenda, Anthropologist in the Making "Dear Brenda, I am not sure how much help I can be but here goes: Yes, embalming has been around since the 1800s. In terms of preservation, each burial would have to be considered on an indiviudal basis. Things that could affect degree of preservation of soft tissue and/or bones would include: if the body was embalmed (not always embalmed in the past); if the coffin/casket were air tight; if the tomb had been opened in recent years. I have seen bodies more than 100 years old (time since burial) that have some soft tissue remaining on them. For the record, effective January 1, 1992, a preservation act for unmarked human burials was enacted by the Louisiana State Legislature. This act protects "unmarked human burial sites," but exempts those cemeteries "regulated by the Louisiana Cemetery Board, or any recognized and maintained municipal, fraternal, religious or family cemetery (page 200 of R.S.8:673)." These entities are exempt from a specific protocol designed to address what should happen when remains are found at a site and it was not know that they were there. Your situation may be different. In my experience, some groups have traditionally required maintenance, etc. of graves. If this is not done, notice of removal can occur. It is my understanding that some cemetery boards will place bones removed from such burials in a common grave in another location of the cemetery. Others may remove them altogether and have their own disposal procedures. Whether or not this could include cremation or something like that, I do not know. I might add that on page 205 (and presumably on 206 since I don't have that page) the cemeteries act in 1992 under R.S.903 addresses maintenance and sale of cemetery plots in an organized cemetery. It would be good for you to find that document in its entirety. Good luck to you. Mary Manhein, Forensic Anthropologist and Director, LSU FACES Laboratory (Forensic Anthropology and Computer Enhancement Services Laboratory)" ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

§ 801.  Recognized owner of title        The person or persons or entity in whose names the official title to a cemetary space appears in the official records of a cemetery authority shall be treated as the owner of said space by the cemetary authority. § 811.  Limitations on vested rights        No vested right of interment gives any person the right to have his remains interred in any interment space in which the remains of any deceased person having a prior vested right of interment have been interred, nor does it give any person the right to have the remains of more than one deceased person interred in a single interment space in violation of the rules and regulations of the cemetery authority of the cemetery in which the interment space is located. ~~~~~~~~~~~ Can any one legally interpret those two Louisiana laws?  (Thanks for finding this site!) Carol Thibodeaux CajunColleen@aol.com

ENGLISH PASTOR APOLOGIZES TO ACADIANS According to Acadian writer Clive Doucet, the Acadian deportations of 1755 (ex. Grand-Pré, Nova Scotia) and 1758 (Charlottetown, P.E.I.) mark the real beginning of the British Empire but the long, rich and complicated tapestry of Acadian survival remains, on the whole, still unspoken and unacknowledged. In his recent book (Notes from Exile, McClelland & Steuart ), he says that "the story of Acadie is the story of the disappearance of a people from the geography of nations...and it happened at gunpoint" i.e. at British gunpoint. He adds : "It's as if a great broom had swept through Acadian society erasing not just the elders but our history.....Nothing happens in Acadie that is not marked by the Deportation. It is a wind that still blows." A wind that nowadays seems to herald for Acadians what has been called a transitional-time of cleansing-closing : a time of reconciliation ! What transpired in the parish of Mont-Carmel, Prince Edward Island, on April 1st, 2001 indeed reverberates throughout the land of Acadie for a time for genuine reconciliation. The cause of all this commotion : the homily given in French by visiting English pastor, David Adcock, of the Southampton Community Church in England. A former advisor to the BBC in religious broadcasting for 5 years, thus enriched by a border perspective about the Christian faith today, pastor Adcock met the folks from the Summerside Community Church (P.E.I.) who attended one of the Church's conference in England. Pastor Adcock had then shared the importance of reconciliation between churches and peoples. It was the Summerside congregation that arranged for him to go to Mont-Carmel, a predominantly French Acadian parish, and meet Father Eddie Cormier. He was then invited to speak to the people at their regular Sunday Mass. Basing his homily on Saint Paul's second epistle to the Corinthians 5 17ff and also on the theme of the Lenten season : "So many reasons to be reconciled", pastor Adcock spoke on the ministry reconciliation that Christ offers. He spoke these words to the Acadian parishioners of Mont-Carmel : "As an Englishmen, I read about the expulsion of the Acadian people last year when I visited Prince Edward Island for the first time. I was shocked by the way you were treated. If you feel it is relevant for an Englishman, a "pasteur" from Southampton, in the year 2001, to apologize, I want to do so. I want to ask your forgiveness for the way my people treated you". Pastor Adcock informed the parishioners that he works with Protestant Evangelical groups in Normandy (France) with friends from a Roman Catholic charismatic community. Not far from the beaches where Canadian soldiers gave their lives, in the Second World War, his Church has set up a house called "Sans Frontières" (Without Borders). He added that "just as Christ has reconciled us to God, we too have this ministry of reconciliation".Mont-Carmel parishioners, surprised and overwhelmed, expressed their assent by a heartfelt applause, some in tears. For a local historian, " it was an incredible and moving experience. It was as if the evils about the deportation of his people, that had been submerged and hidden for so long, were suddenly brought to the surface in the parish where he grew up. At last, to be faced, cleansed and changed" ! It's the beginning of a long process which should end up at Grand-Pré (Nova Scotia) when Queen Elizabeth apologizes to Acadians worldwide for the ethnic cleansing that her royal ancestors and the British government perpetrated against an innocent people.

At the entrance to the cemetery there is a notice, families are responsible for the up keep of the tombs. Has anyone had experience at this site? Does anybody have the office's phone number? Mary

Here's the website for the Diocese of Lafayette if anyone cares to take a= look. www.dol-louisiana.org ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

Hi Listers, Does anyone know if Point Lookout Cemetery has ever been read? Who is in charge of the cemetery records? Anything about it online? I believe my great grandfather is buried there but I have had no luck in finding it recorded online. I was told that when an Angola inmate died and the body was not claimed by a family member, they were buried in Point Lookout Cemetery in West Feliciana Parish, Louisiana. Does anyone know if this is true? Thanks for your help in advance. Suzanne Ashley Whiteburg, GA

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I've posted to all lists i'm on and also to two Cajun newsgroups..plus a genealogy newsgroup...i can't be there with you, but i can do this:) plus sent Winstons' piece to all of them. thanks to both of you:))) alice