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Just found a new website on saving cemeteries that we need to look at. www.SavingGraves.com Looks like a good place to post information and pictures and to get helpful ideas. Brenda

I was just reminded that the church gave 25 years, this is the lasts year of the salvation process. Because the letter from the pastor and the policy papers from St. Martin were not dated I assumed this was the fifth year. The owner will exercise the right to dismantle the flagged tombs when the owner's 25th year of advertising ends. Sorry about my confusion. Mary

We have no information as to what will be done with that plot once it is empty. One explanation is the remains will be reburied on the site, a slab poured over, the space above sold! There is about 1/2 acre on the south side of the cemetery with no graves. Christophe Chevalier deL'Homme's tomb, our family's concern, has artistic value. It is the work of one of the most well known monument designers of the era. The artist designed at least another at St. Michael's, the Grevembergs. He was brought up from New Orleans where he had a studio and designed monuments in cemeteries there. Chevalier had no children. We have 2 other tombs in that cemetery, surnames well known in Louisiana. they are not flagged. Had we known of the problem, it would have been addressed years ago. St. Martin of Tours advertised. Few of us live in Acadania, or read the Teche News. Maybe Time or Newsweek should run a piece about the plight of historic cemeteries, Smithsonian could be interested. Mary

Mary/George, Is there any explanation as to what they will with what is interred in the plot? Bill in NH Mary and George wrote: > > Please for give the earlier, hastily sent, sarcastic message(s). The > owners of St. Michael's Cemetery have presented reasonable demands, by > law, if not to the eye of others or historically. This is a public > relations disaster. > > >From a letter to parishioners, no date, signed by the pastor, Reverend > P. Austin Leger: > > PERPETUAL DUES: COST: $800.00. Includes the payment of dues to St. > Michael's Society for the upkeep of the cemetery and relieves the family > of any further payments. > > Perpetual CARE: COST: $1,500. Included the payment of dues and the > maintenance and repair of tombs as needed. It is necessary that the tomb > be in reasonably good condition at the time that perpetual care is > begun. > > PERPETUAL CARE: COST: $2060.00. Included the payment of dues and > maintenance and repair of double wide or double high tomb as needed. It > is necessary that the tomb be in reasonably good condition at the time > perpetual care is begun. Of you are interested call the rectory to > schedule a meeting. > ************************************************************************************************************* > > The legislative acts of 1974, No. 417, ~1 address CEMETERY COMPANIES, > this should be found in the main library of the parish seat > ************************************************************************************************************* > > St. Martin of Tours has an undated, 2 page policy statement: POLICY TO > RECLAIM AND RESELL ABANDONED CEMETERY > SPACES 6 conditions are to be met > > 1. A certified or registered letter will be mailed to the last known > owner of record that the Cemetery Authority is trying to locate owners, > heirs and/or successors to take over the care and responsibility of the > space in question, and that the Cemetery Authority will reclaim said > space if no legitimate claim is forthcoming. This requirement will not > be applicable if our records do not contain the name and address of any > owner of said space(s). (Sample letter appended.) > > 2. For 24 years, we will advertise in Teche News that the cemetery > authority is trying to locate owners, heirs and/or successors to take > care and responsibility of listed tomb and that the cemetery authority > will reclaim cemetery space if no legitimate claim is forthcoming. > > 3. the advertisement shall be published once a month during year > twenty-five of the 25 year period. > > 4. A notice will be posted on the cemetery space during the last year of > the 25 year period to the effect noted #2 above. > > 45. In no legitimate claim is made on the cemetery space, the cemetery > authority authority may take possession of abandoned interment space(s). > The cemetery authority can then sell the space. > > 6. In the event that a legitimate claim to the space in question is > presented to the cemetery administrator, the Cemetery Authority reserves > the right to deny any requests for permits allowing the use of and/or > access to the cemetery space until all financial obligations of the > owner or heir or successor are met. > > ***************************************************** > re #1, I do not have a copy of that letter. > > Are there any photojournalists on the list? Here is your book: Lost > Monuments in South Louisiana's Historical Cemeteries. > > ==== LA-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > US-IMMIGRANTS-PRE-1800 > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/US-IMMIGRANTS-PRE-1800.html > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/

Thanks so much! Betty ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary and George" <rettig@fastband.com> To: <LA-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [LA-CEMETERIES] St. Michael's Cemetery land grab > The Fuselier plot, a brick tomb in a grass area, was up, needing repair, > in April. Mary > > > ==== LA-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > This is a FLAME free zone > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

I am looking for a Robert Cleveland Clark, b. 6/15/1884 and died before 1960, he is possibly buried in New Iberia. Thank you, Lisa Winkleman

Is the Bishop of the diocese aware of what is happening to one of his shepherd's flock? If not, he should be notified. If he is aware, why is he allowing this to happen? Surely he could put a stop to this horrible nightmare. Betty Bordenave wrote: > The Fuselier family donated the land for the church and cemetery, I think. > Is that tomb also gone? Or do you know! > Betty > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > There is an annual fee of $25, for $250, the tomb is ok for ?, $800 is > > "perpetual" care. I fear that this is depending on what the meaning of > > perpetual is in the ear of the sayer. > > > > The LA law gives 25 years for the eviction process to be completed. We > > have 20 years left. Visit the cemetery. At least one tomb is down, of > > the person who donated the land for the Evangenline Park. I was told the > > Rangers offered to pay. Only members of the family have the right kind > > of money! The relative of our family whose tomb is flagged, Christophe > > Chevalier deL'Homme, married but had no children, not that our research > > has turn up. Can we save his grave? The question had not been answered. > > Mary > > > > > > ==== LA-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > Is a mailing list for all Catholic Roman too > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/Miscellaneous/OTHER/CATHOLIC > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > ==== LA-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Is a mailing list for all Catholic Roman too > http://lists.rootsweb.com/Miscellaneous/OTHER/CATHOLIC > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Could someone give us the correct e-mail address for Rest in Peace? The one given, restinpeace@genealogysearch.org, doesn't work. Brenda ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

I am searching for John W. Hollis and his wife Ashia Hilliard Hollis who may be buried at the Bartholomew United Methodist Church Cemetery, North of Bastrop, Morehouse Parish, LA. Their deaths were around 1865 perhaps. If you have access to the list or live near the cemetery, will you please check for me. Thanks, Jewel ajjtmgru@MSN.com

The Fuselier plot, a brick tomb in a grass area, was up, needing repair, in April. Mary

Please for give the earlier, hastily sent, sarcastic message(s). The owners of St. Michael's Cemetery have presented reasonable demands, by law, if not to the eye of others or historically. This is a public relations disaster. >From a letter to parishioners, no date, signed by the pastor, Reverend P. Austin Leger: PERPETUAL DUES: COST: $800.00. Includes the payment of dues to St. Michael's Society for the upkeep of the cemetery and relieves the family of any further payments. Perpetual CARE: COST: $1,500. Included the payment of dues and the maintenance and repair of tombs as needed. It is necessary that the tomb be in reasonably good condition at the time that perpetual care is begun. PERPETUAL CARE: COST: $2060.00. Included the payment of dues and maintenance and repair of double wide or double high tomb as needed. It is necessary that the tomb be in reasonably good condition at the time perpetual care is begun. Of you are interested call the rectory to schedule a meeting. ************************************************************************************************************* The legislative acts of 1974, No. 417, ~1 address CEMETERY COMPANIES, this should be found in the main library of the parish seat ************************************************************************************************************* St. Martin of Tours has an undated, 2 page policy statement: POLICY TO RECLAIM AND RESELL ABANDONED CEMETERY SPACES 6 conditions are to be met 1. A certified or registered letter will be mailed to the last known owner of record that the Cemetery Authority is trying to locate owners, heirs and/or successors to take over the care and responsibility of the space in question, and that the Cemetery Authority will reclaim said space if no legitimate claim is forthcoming. This requirement will not be applicable if our records do not contain the name and address of any owner of said space(s). (Sample letter appended.) 2. For 24 years, we will advertise in Teche News that the cemetery authority is trying to locate owners, heirs and/or successors to take care and responsibility of listed tomb and that the cemetery authority will reclaim cemetery space if no legitimate claim is forthcoming. 3. the advertisement shall be published once a month during year twenty-five of the 25 year period. 4. A notice will be posted on the cemetery space during the last year of the 25 year period to the effect noted #2 above. 45. In no legitimate claim is made on the cemetery space, the cemetery authority authority may take possession of abandoned interment space(s). The cemetery authority can then sell the space. 6. In the event that a legitimate claim to the space in question is presented to the cemetery administrator, the Cemetery Authority reserves the right to deny any requests for permits allowing the use of and/or access to the cemetery space until all financial obligations of the owner or heir or successor are met. ***************************************************** re #1, I do not have a copy of that letter. Are there any photojournalists on the list? Here is your book: Lost Monuments in South Louisiana's Historical Cemeteries.

For those who are veterans contact 1-800-827-1000 which is the toll free number for each state's Veterans Administration Regional Office. Perhaps they can help somehow. Regards, Leon ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kera103034@aol.com> To: <LA-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: [LA-CEMETERIES] Sale of Tombs/Grave Sites at the St. Michael's Cemetery > > To Whom It May Concern, > > We are writing this letter in response to the information we have > received > concerning the Sale of Tombs/Grave Sites at the St. Michael's Cemetery > in St. > Martinville, La, for back maintenance fees. > > The St. Martin de Tours Catholic Church in St. Martinville, Louisiana, > who > own the cemetery, are acquiring the old ancestral plots to resell them, > we > assume for lack of space, and for past unpaid fees. > > The church has already paved over the original cemetery which housed the > > Original Acadian Ancestors that Immigrated here from Acadia! It is now > a > Parking Lot! > > We, as Guardians of our Ancestors Tombs and Genealogist, Historians, > hope to > put an end to this destruction. The remains, history and genealogy of > these > tombs desperately need to be need to be preserved for future generations > to > come. > > By sending this letter we hope to get your support in this effort. We > need > to join together to save our Acadian History. > > This effort is being named "Rest In Peace": St. Martinville Project > Save. > > We hope to gather all the support from the Community, Descendants World > Wide, > All Societies: Historical, Military, Genealogical, Family Organizations > and > anyone with an interest in saving these old Tombs/Graves from > desecration! > > We with "Rest In Peace" would appreciate your input and or backing in > this > effort. > > Spear heading our group are: > Annette Eschete, Youngsville, LA > Andre Courville, Breaux Bridge, LA > And many other new volunteers world wide. > > If you are interested in lending moral support and agree with our > premise, > please contact us immediately as time is of the essence. This has been > going > on for at lease 5 years already. > > We will be setting up a web-site for all to sign a "Letter of Protest" > of > this destruction and "Eviction" of the deceased remains in this > cemetery. > > Please Join us in helping to stop this blatant destruction of our past. > Our Ancestors where evicted from Acadia in 1755 and found a loving home > in > Louisiana. > Now their remains are being evicted! Will this ever stop! > Please note*: That some of these graves that are tagged to be aquired > and > sold are marked with Civil War Placques and Veterans Placques. > > Any help you can lend will be appreciated by one and all in our group. > If > you have any ideas, contacts or groups interested in joining us please > let us > know as soon as possible. > > If you could post this letter at any of your meetings, or send to your > members we would be grateful for your help. > > We can be e-mailed at: restinpeace@genealogysearch.org > > Also find the petition at www.geocities.com/restinpeace_stmartinville > > Thank you in advance for your help! > > Sincerely, > > "Rest In Peace" > Annette Eschete > Andre Courville > > > > ==== LA-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > US-IMMIGRANTS-PRE-1800 > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/US-IMMIGRANTS-PRE-1800.htm l > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

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I have ancestors from La. with the surnames DUVERNOIS and BURTON. John BURTON married Marie Theresa DUVERNOIS. Believe they settled in New Orleans. Children were Philip BURTON, who died in Civil War, and my G Grandmother Theresa Duvernois BURTON, Marie died when Theresa was 12, and Theresa then educated at Convent of the Sacred Heart, New Orleans, finishing her education for several years in France. Theresa married Eugene LEROY in 1869 in New Orleans. I'd be interested in finding any of these names in cemeteries in the New Orleans area. Thanks, Ray Ray Horton sunray@erie.net

>There is an annual fee of $25, for $250, the tomb is ok for ?, $800 is >"perpetual" care. I fear that this is depending on what the meaning of >perpetual is in the ear of the sayer. I have no idea what "perpetual" care means, either! Where my Father is buried (Bellevue Memorial Gardens in Opelousas) all of the graves are in the ground, except for the Mausileum (sp). Each grave is marked with "slab markers" some quiet elegant, others plain, depending upon the financial status of the family. The grass is cut as needed...they use riding mowers or a tractor since there are no tombs to cut around. I understand that meaning of perpetual care. But, what does perpetual care mean in the older cemeteries where loved one are buried in tombs? We are witnessing the definition now! I did forward the e-mail of this morning with the petition to my "addressbook"...the more people we can get interested and involved the better! Shirley cajungal@bayou.com

The Fuselier family donated the land for the church and cemetery, I think. Is that tomb also gone? Or do you know! Betty ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > There is an annual fee of $25, for $250, the tomb is ok for ?, $800 is > "perpetual" care. I fear that this is depending on what the meaning of > perpetual is in the ear of the sayer. > > The LA law gives 25 years for the eviction process to be completed. We > have 20 years left. Visit the cemetery. At least one tomb is down, of > the person who donated the land for the Evangenline Park. I was told the > Rangers offered to pay. Only members of the family have the right kind > of money! The relative of our family whose tomb is flagged, Christophe > Chevalier deL'Homme, married but had no children, not that our research > has turn up. Can we save his grave? The question had not been answered. > Mary > > > ==== LA-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Is a mailing list for all Catholic Roman too > http://lists.rootsweb.com/Miscellaneous/OTHER/CATHOLIC > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

There is an annual fee of $25, for $250, the tomb is ok for ?, $800 is "perpetual" care. I fear that this is depending on what the meaning of perpetual is in the ear of the sayer. The LA law gives 25 years for the eviction process to be completed. We have 20 years left. Visit the cemetery. At least one tomb is down, of the person who donated the land for the Evangenline Park. I was told the Rangers offered to pay. Only members of the family have the right kind of money! The relative of our family whose tomb is flagged, Christophe Chevalier deL'Homme, married but had no children, not that our research has turn up. Can we save his grave? The question had not been answered. Mary

Mount Gillion cemetery in Prairieville, La. I found the following names while visiting my ggrandfather Andrew Parm's born 1877 died 1964. Andrew's son Isaac Parms Sr. born Dec 24,1919 died Sep 12,1989 PFC US Army WW2. Isaac's wife Elizabeth "Dut Parms. Andrew's wife Viginia "Pet" Beal Darville Parm born 1895 died 1998 she lived to 103. Joseph H Litlle born March 5,1888 died May 5 1962 Cpl. CO G24 Infantry in Louisiana during WW1, Andrew's brother-in-law. Pierre West Jr. born Oct 4,1936 died Feb 3,1992, A3C US Air Force, Andrew's first wife Mary Little West, grandson. James Clayborne born Aug 3,1911 died Sep 1972, the son-in-law of Andrew Parm. Dennis L Dorville born May 7,1900 died Dec 20,1987 the step son of Virginia Pet Parm. Leon Darville born 1905 died 1974 Andrew's son-in-law, Virginia's step son. Ernest Darville born Oct 7,1902 died Dec 11, 1977 step son of Virginia. James Duncan Darville Alice Darville died 1971 Leon Parms died May 29,1973, step brother of Andrew. Tom Darville Jr. born Dec 13,1961 died July 22,1978, ggrandson of Andrew, Leon Darville's grandson. Cecile V. West born Jan 19,1900 died Dec 22,1989 Ernest Brown born Mar 13,1925 died 1976 Lenis Lemus "Lewis, Buster" Dukes Sr. born MAr 18,1928 died April 23,1996 Geraldine "Fat" Phillips Dukes born Feb 25,1931 died Jan 13,1996, wife of Lenis. Lorenzo Palms born March 7,1904 died Dec 20,1968, nephew to Andrew. Elton J York born Aril 3,1960 died Sept. 25,1997 Robert Delmore born Nov. 27, 1941 died Aug 24,1997 submitted by Rhonda M Samuel ggranddaughter of Andrew Parm

Is there any project or project proposal in the making for accurately recording these before any such destruction takes place. Isn't there a law that forbids the destruction of these without recorded documentation of what is being destroyed. mjivy