Dear Larry: I think we have been in touch before. You recently wrote in the Wolfe County Forum, which reached me through the Wolfe Mailing list because of the mention of the surname Pence: >>> These are my Pences: Judy Pence Helton > Samuel Odell Pence > Samuel Withrow Pence > Felix Pence > Andrew Pence. I am down at the Bethany Christina Mission Center and at Pence several times a year. We buried Grandpa there in 1994. I can probably tell you just about where everything is or was. No, Andrew didn't have a middle name. He was at one time a justice of the peace for Breathitt County during the feuds. I do have all of the Henry Pence info of the one from Champaign, just in case. Some have listed Andrew as a "love child" of Henry Pence. No one has come up with a better connection.<<< If you have all of the Henry Pence information from Champaign County, Ohio, then you know that Henry Pence (Jr.) left a will there and named his children in this will. Of course, there is no Andrew. Beyond that, all of the census data I have see verifies that Andrew was born in Kentucky. So far as I can tell, Henry Pence (Jr.) never se a single foot in Kentucky, nor did his first or second wives. He was in Shenandoah County (that part that is now Page County) until after 1800 and moved to Ohio by 1805. The idea that Andrew was the son of Henry Pence and Elizabeth Koontz arose in Randy Pence's book about the descendants of Andrew and Rebecca (Hollon) Pences. Randy had read, among other things, a 1960 booklet called _Pence Places Names and Early Pences in America_, written by Monroe Conger Pence. This booklet is not a genealogy per se, but Monroe did include some family information that others had sent him. In this book, Monroe also speculated on which Pence groups might be related. The juxtaposition of the family of Henry (Jr.) and his relatives and the family of Andrew Pence's family in this book was misinterpreted by Randy, who then wrote that Andrew was a son of Henry. I knew Monroe Pence well. I visited him in his home in California and he has been a guest in my home here in Virginia. In 1972, while I was visiting Monroe, he said he was about to retire and therefore he turned over all of his Pence correspondence to me. Believe me, there is nothing in this correspondence to show any relationship between the Virginia Pences and Andrew Pence. Further, Monroe told me he did no genealogical research, he just wrote people with the surname Pence in and around the towns in the U.S. that are named Pence. One of the letters came from a descendant of Andrew, who listed some of Andrew's descendants. I have exchanged emails with Randy Pence about this and he said he has reason to link Henry and Andrew other then what he had seen in Monroe's booklet. That booklet does not express anything other than the possibility - a guess only, as Monroe personally told me - that Andrew might be related to the group of Pences to which Henry (Jr.) belonged. Given the above conclusive facts, I hope you and other descendants of Andrew will join with me in combating the misinformation about Henry Pence and Andrew Pence. Thank you. Richard A. Pence 3211 Adams Ct, Fairfax, VA 22030-1900 Voice 703-591-4243 / Fax 703-352-3560 Pence Family History <www.pipeline.com/~richardpence/> [a descendant of John Pence, brother to Henry Pence (Jr.)]