Bess, My Robert Rose was a brother to your David Bowen Rose. Robert married Esther Moore, and I don't know who her parents were. Robert and Esther Rose's daughter, Isabella, married James McKinney and their daughter, Esther married Alfred Taylor Gentry and they were my gg-grandparents. I don't have much on the Rose family or the McKinney family. James McKinney is my brick wall!! Norma At 02:18 PM 7/10/2007 -0400, you wrote: >HI-- >John and Rebecca are my 4X great-grandparents. At the present time they are >still searching for John's parents. They are doing DNA testing now, and are >not exactly sure where he came from. Personally, I like to think that he >was descended from the Roses at Kilvarock (Kil-rock) Scotland near >Inverness. They say the DNA proves he was descended from the "Long Island >Roses" so we really don't know. > >We do have more information about Rebecca. Her grandfather, Moses Owen >(which became Bowen after he came through immigration) came from Wales with >a group of Welsh immigrants about 1699. They settled in PA. Rebecca's >father was David, son of Moses, and she named two of her seven sons David >Bowen and Bowen David. I don't know if she did this to keep her father's >name and her maiden name alive. But if she did, she certainly succeeded. >There are David Bowen's and Bowen DAvid's galore in Rose lines coming down >to the present day(There were two girls too.) They all moved from what is >now West Va. to what is now Wolfe Co., KY about 1803--or somewhere in the >very early 1800's and settled on what is called Lacy Creek, near Hazel >Green, in what is now Wolfe Co., KY, with the exception of one daughter who >was married and had a family. She stayed in VA. John and Rebecca are both >buried at Lacy Creek along with a few other family members in a a very >small cemetery. > >I am descended from the first David Bowen Rose, son of John and Rebecca. He >married Sarah NIckell, and their son, James Nelson Rose who married Fannie >Swango, dau. of George Washington Swango are my g-g-grandparents. > >Well, I guess that's enough for now. > >Good to talk to another Rose cousin. > >Bess Rose Miller > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Norma-- My brick wall is my g-g-grandmother whose name was Mary (possibly Belle as a middle name) Smith. She was known as Polly all her life and that name is even on her tombstone. But I have a copy of a deed where she and her husband, William (often called "Dr. Bill") Swango sold land to my paternal grandparents, and she signed it Mary Swango. I even have a picture of her and Dr. Bill and their 5 daughters, one of whom was my great-grandmother. But I cannot find out who her parents were. Harley Little, (now deceased) who was our Swango historian for a long time, told me to look in Breathitt Co. for the Smiths. Through census records, I verified that she was still living in 1910 and her age was given. According to this, she would have been born in either 1845 or '46. The only person I found in the 1850 census that fitted her age was in a family where the father's name was Hardin Smith with wife Elizabeth and they had several children. One of the youngest was "Polly." But that really doesn't prove anything. OC. Helton, a wonderful genealogist in our family thought her had information about her, and he invited me up to look through the material--he had loads of documents. He said he would "point me in the right direction" and let me hunt. Unfortunately, I put it off, and he died. All is information is now locked up and there is no access to it. Anyway, that's my brick wall. Bess