KENTUCKY'S NEUTRAL STATUS IS EFFECTIVELY TERMINATED SEPTEMBER 3RD By the time September had arrived in 1861, their border state of Kentucky was having a hard time keeping their neutral status for the conflict surrounding them. On September 3rd of 1861, Confederate General Polk orders south- ern troops into Kentucky, in order to hold Confederate positions there. Southern forces were under the command of General Pillow. This move effectively terminates Kentucky's neutral status. General Polk's orders result in part from a belief held by every southerner that the federals would soon attmept to take military action to control Kentucky.

Michael J. Neill will speak at an all-day, genealogical seminar of West-Central Ky. Family Research Assoc., Saturday, 20 Sept. 2003 at the Executive Inn Rivermont, Owensboro, Ky. The genealogical subject of collecting biographical material will be explored. Michael is one of the world's most recognized genealogists, his articles appearing regularly in the ezine, Ancestry Daily News. Consider spending a weekend in beautiful Owensboro, Ky.! The Kentucky Room (local history and genealogy) of the Daviess Co. Library is open Friday 9-8, and Sunday 1-5. The city boasts many restaurants, including several famous places for BBQ. Owensboro is also known as a city of churches, with almost all faiths represented. To register in advance, send $20 to WCKFRA, Seminar Registration, P.O. Box 1932, Owensboro, KY 42302-1932. Admission on the day of the event will be $22. Doors open at 8 A.M. Visit WCKFRA's web page for more details. http://www.rootsweb.com/~kywckfra/ Chester Ward, Jr. WCKFRA President ([email protected])

I got this email from one of my lists the yesterday. Aol has a new spam blocking tool where you highlight unwanted mail, then click on a "block" button. it then sends a report to Aol, and blocks any email from that address. Aol has sued several people as well as filed criminal charges. Sound great right??? Apparently, it has it's flaws. People have been blocking mail from the rootsweb discussion lists, instead of unsubscribing when they are no longer interested. Here's the email I received: Several days ago AOL began blocking all emails sent by USGenNet's server. : This means that list subscribers who have AOL addresses can't receive the : list posts.  Also, USGenNet account holders with AOL addresses can't use : their email aliases to forward their site's mail to their AOL address. This : holds true for all domains hosted by USGenNet, including ALHN and AHGP main : sites, USGenWeb Census Project, Combs Families, and TNGenWeb just to name a : few. : All mail originating from our server to any AOL address bounces back with : this message: : : "The information presently available to AOL indicates this server is : generating high volumes of member complaints from AOL's member base. Based : on AOL's Unsolicited Bulk E-mail policy at : http://www.aol.com/info/bulkemail.html AOL : may not accept further e-mail transactions from this server or domain. For : more information, please visit http://postmaster.info.aol.com." I called AOL Saturday and they specified what they felt warranted their : block, and I passed the information on to Jim Cole, our SysAdmin.  Jim has : tested, and re-tested, but can't find anything to their claims. Our server : is not open to indescriminate use or abuse and is very secure. : : Since I was told by AOL that the block will not ever be lifted unless : USGenNet corrects the "problems" they mentioned, it seems unlikely : that the block will be removed any time soon and those affected should act : accordingly. : : We are continuing our efforts to get the block removed, and will keep you : informed. : : Ginger Cisewski : President, USGenNet.Org : Melissa Foster-Rose "My Family Tree is Full of NUTS!!! www.angelfire.com/ky3/nuts FOR MORE INFO, SEE ABOVE WEBPAGE!! Researching the following surnames: BIRT, BOLIN-OSBORNE, BRAY, BRONAUGH, BROWN, BUCKLES, CANADA, CARRICK, CARTER, CHAMPION, CHANDLER, CHEW, COWGER/KOGER/COGER, DAVENPORT, DICKERSON, DICKS/DIX/DIECKS, DOAN/DOANE, DUNNING, EYE, FOSTER, FRARY, GREEN, HARVEY, HAWKS, HIATT, HINSDALE, HOLLAND, KELLY, LARIMER, MADDOCK, MCGREW, MCMICAN, MCPHERSON, MELTON, MENDENHALL, NEWLIN, OSBORNE, PARKER, RARIDEN, VAUGHN, WELLS, WOODWARD, ZORN. ALSO, ROSE, PETTY, MCHUGH, CLINE

FEDERALS ESTABLISH AN ENEMY MILITARY CAMP IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY In the early months of the War for Southern Independence, south- erners had to learn to accept many discomforts and swallow every thing the yankees forced upon them. Border states like Kentucky, saw this exchange in full force and were forced to accept it all without comment. The controversial dispute in Kentucky over freed slaves was some thing pro-southern civilians were vehement about. Lincoln decid- ed that all slaves used by the south against the north, would be freed. But with more and more enemy in their midst, they learned to accept it. Another controversial issue the civilians in Lexington accepted, was the placement of a federal military camp in their city. With the war raging all around them, civilians could do nothing about this dilemna in their midst. Their camp was placed to show their impending union dominance throughout the state of Kentucky. This camp was set up in the summer of 1861. Does anyone know anymore about this camp and how long it lasted? Did it ever have a name and if so, what was it named after? Send any replies directly to our list for everyone to see: [email protected] THANKS for your participation! glenn

Dear Commander and everybody My family lived in Kentucky during the Civil War. I have been interested in this time period because of the upheaval it caused my family. While KY allowed slavery it was not really a slave state. The number of large plantation type farms were few. Most were smaller yeoman sized farms. So the institution of slavery did not have a big impact in KY. However the majority of people living in KY had originally moved there from southern states, like Virginia, North and South Carolina. The philosophy of the people living in KY was Southern or strong on rights of the individual, right to property, and the idea that the federal government is device established to aid the states. The commander is correct when he says the imposition of a draft to fill the ranks of the Union army was a shock! How could the federal government order the states to supply troops? Remember at that time, what ever locality supplied a detachment of troops also had to supply the food, uniforms, horses, arms, wagons etc. I read a book called "A Very Violent Rebel", a diary of a young lady living in Knoxville. She relates how on almost a daily basis, she and her friends would scurry around trying to find supplies, food, medicine, cutting up carpets to make blankets, making underwear, socks, to supply the confederate POW's housed in the area. Unlike Tenn. KY was never 'occupied' federal troops, both northern and southern armies fought in KY, but the Union never took over KY as if it were a foreign government, the state government remained in place during the war. Tenn, on the other hand, did vote to leave the union and joined with the Confederate States of America. When the Union entered Tenn, they occupied a foreign country. My gggrandfa. while he voted for KY neutrality, eventually, ended up a guerrilla and was labeled a traitor to the Union. Penny Perry Kenmore, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 08:11 AM Subject: [KYWBTSVETS] ENEMY DEMANDS TROOPS FEDERALS MAKE AN ASTONISHING DEMAND OF TROOPS JULY FIRST OF 1861 In the early weeks of the War for Southern Independence southern communities had astounding demands made up on them. One unlikely request came on the 1st of June in 1861, when the War Department issued an order for troops to fill their ranks. This order was levied on the citizens of Kentucky and Tennessee. What was alarming was that Tennesse had already voted themselves out of the northern government. They'd voted in a convention for secession on the 6th of May. This vote was confirmed by a public referendum in June. Kentucky had at this point in time, voted to remain neutral. Needless to say that these southern governments are making plans to refute the order and to refuse to participate at all. This is another irritation in the hearts and minds of the Confederacy. Did anyone's ancestor have to face this delemina in 1861? Send your reply to our list so evereyone can understand this. THANKS for your participation! glenn ==== KYWBTSVETS Mailing List ==== NEW "KYWBTSVETS" List Members are encouraged to post your QUERY to our list at any time.

My grt grt grt grandfather, John W. Davenport from Livingston Co. KY is listed as a confederate vet. Can anyone help me out by telling me how to find out what regt. he served with? Thanks so much! Missy :) <A HREF="www.angelfire.com/ky3/nuts">www.angelfire.com/ky3/nuts</A> click above to see my genealogy webpage which features most of the surnames below. Melissa Foster-Rose "My Family Tree is Full of NUTS!!! Researching the following surnames: BIRT, BOLIN-OSBORNE, BRAY, BRONAUGH, BROWN, BUCKLES, CANADA, CARRICK, CARTER, CHAMPION, CHANDLER, CHEW, COWGER/KOGER/COGER, DAVENPORT, DICKERSON, DICKS/DIX/DIECKS, DOAN/DOANE, DUNNING, EYE, FOSTER, FRARY, GREEN, HARVEY, HAWKS, HIATT, HINSDALE, HOLLAND, KELLY, LARIMER, MADDOCK, MCGREW, MCMICAN, MCPHERSON, MELTON, MENDENHALL, NEWLIN, OSBORNE, PARKER, RARIDEN, VAUGHN, WELLS, WOODWARD, ZORN. ALSO, ROSE, PETTY, MCHUGH, CLINE

William Anderson Hatfield. Johnson Hatfield's Grandfather was W.A.( Anse's) G Grandfather. They were only 2 years apart in age. I have the information on Johnson and his brothers. What I an looking for is service information on other Hatfield's related to Johnson (by Blood) and information on the Phillips. Johnson tried to distance himself and his family from the feud as did many. The McCoy and Hatfield families along with the Justices and others were all related as some of the first families to settle Va. some as far back as the 1700's. Joseph Hatfield 1739-1832 served in the Revolutionary War, Valentine Hatfield ( Johnson's Uncle and W.A's Grandfather) served in the war of 1812. Any information about the companies they served with will be appreciated ----- Original Message ----- From: "josie bass" <[email protected]> To: "Jan Hill" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [KYWBTSVETS] HATFIELD > hi, are they kin to the followig, josie > > The 'Devil' made him do it By Neale R. Clark/REGISTER-HERALD REPORTER > > Actor Steve Bush portrays "Devil Anse" Hatfield in Theatre West Virginia's > "Hatfields and McCoys." (Lew Whitener/The Register-Herald) > > Capt. William Anderson Hatfield (CSA, retired) is surprisingly soft-spoken > - "gentle-spoken," you might say - and not the giant of the mountains > legend has led him to grow to in the imagination; in fact, he's not quite 5-10. > > Randle McCoy referred to him as "6 feet of devil and 180 pounds of hell," > which seems appropriate given Hatfield's nickname of "Devil Anse." > > But Hatfield said the name wasn't given him because he is evil. > > "I reckon it's because of Devil's Backbone, Ky., the mountain where I held > off some Union troops that were coming in," he said, explaining he led his > Confederate squad in a diversionary tactic that allowed the South to move > troops from Tennessee to Virginia. > > It was during the Civil War, he reflected, that an incident occurred that > was in part related to the famous feud for which the names Hatfield and > McCoy continue to hold fascination. > > During a skirmish at Cripple Creek, Ky., Hatfield wounded Harmon McCoy, who > was Randle's brother. > > "But I was accused of murdering him after the war as a means of > retaliation. I didn't do it," Hatfield said softly. > > There also was the matter of a razor-back hog, ownership of which was > claimed by Randle McCoy, but Hatfield said it belonged to his cousin, Floyd. > > Two of the McCoy boys - Sam and Parris - shot and killed Hatfield friend > Bill Staton after a trial over the hog, at which time Devil Anse's brother > Ellison - a justice of the peace - sought out warrants in Pike County, Ky., > but they didn't hold up. > > Then, on Aug. 7, 1883, an election day, the bad blood that had been brewing > between the two families boiled over in an incident at Blackberry Creek. > > "Like it goes at election time, a lot of folk will have a few things to > drink," Anse reflected. "It's the time of year when we can get out and > talk, find out what's going on, because folks live a good distance apart." > > Tolbert McCoy, who evidently had been drinking, along with his brothers > Phamer and Randle McCoy Jr., age 15, "decided they was going to cut my > brother and cut him 26 times and then shot him once," Anse said quietly. > "Phamer McCoy was the one they accused of shooting him at the election site." > > The boys were caught by a constable who wanted to take them to Pike County. > > "But we said no. The crime wasn't committed in Kentucky. We wanted justice > in West Virginia." > > Thus the Hatfields took control of the boys and took them to a school house > on Mate Creek, just above Matewan. > > Ellison Hatfield lingered near death, and Sarah McCoy came to the > schoolhouse to plead for her sons, but to no avail. > > On Aug. 9, around 10:30 p.m., word came that Ellison had died, so the three > McCoys were led outside the school house. > > "They were tied to a paw paw tree, really in a sort of sinkhole area where > it laid down low," Anse said grimly. > > It becomes apparent that he is haunted by the memory of Randle Jr., just a > boy, and tells how he asked witnesses three times if the teen had been > involved in Ellison's stabbing. > > "Now, the boy did cry, and I asked if he stabbed him (Ellison), too, that > maybe he'd just been caught up in it, maybe he'd just been drinking ... but > there were witnesses who said he did (stab Ellison). ... You're still > responsible for what you do." > > Although Randle Jr. wept, Tolbert remained defiant to the end. > > "I told them, boys, if you've got a peace to make with your maker, you > better make it. And he (Tolbert) spit at me." > > The shooting began by 10 Hatfields and the results were incredibly grisly. > > "They were pretty much shot to pieces and the pieces were shot to pieces," > Anse recalled. "It's true they were all buried in one casket because that's > all that was left of the three." > > For years to come, there would be sporadic shootings, including a New > Year's Day 1888 confrontation at the McCoy homestead which left two people > dead and Randle McCoy's wife nearly dead, followed by a McCoy reprisal that > killed one Hatfield. > > The McCoys would offer $100 bounty for any Hatfield, dead or alive; the > bounty would rise to $1,000. > > In all, nine Hatfields and five McCoys would die. > > At the time, it was simple mountain justice based on the Old Testament law > of retaliation, an eye for an eye, tooth for tooth, life for life. > > But Anse was "saved" when a fellow 45th Virginia veteran "turned me around, > got me to realize just who is this Lord." > > Now, he looks at the feud differently. > > "I'm sorry about all the killing, all the killing on both sides," Anse > said. "But I still say this, we never started it." > > When his sons Troy and Elias were shot in the back in a Boomer pool room - > officially the last deaths of the feud - Anse was contacted by a Boomer > pastor who told him he was glad to hear of Anse's conversion and so sorry > for the loss of his sons. > > "That was probably one of the lowest spots in my life," he said. "And I > began to realize that there has to be some sense of mercy somewhere." > E-mail: [email protected] > > ""Hatfields" wouldn't be complete without Devil Anse Hatfield, played by > Oak Hill actor Steve Bush. Bush has not only portrayed the Hatfield > patriarch since the 1980s - taking a couple years off when his daughter, > Stephanie, 13, and son David, 11, were born - but he's also studied the > historic Anse Hatfield, he said, speaking with several relatives of the man > whose life he portrays each year. > > "... being a reactionary, he didn't want to be known as a feuder," Bush > said. "But he felt like his hand had been called after his brother was > killed so brutally. > > "The Riverside Restaurant in Alderson was built by Devil Anse for his > granddaughter," the actor added. "There's quite a history throughout the > whole area." > http://www.register-herald.com/articles/2003/06/07/news/theatrewest8.txt > > "For veteran actor Steve Bush, reliance on the script was simply not > enough, so he has researched Anse and the feud pretty thoroughly. As a > result, he easily handles questions in character - a character disarmingly > different from what one might expect of a man of such legendary prominence. > > "Legend made him so much more than he was," Bush said. > > Bush joined the TWV outdoor dramas in 1980, moving into the role of Devil > Anse in 1984 and playing him continuously through 1988." Bush is employed > as a broadcasting engineer for WOAY-TV in Oak Hill. > http://www.register-herald.com/articles/2003/06/15/news/role16.txt > > > > > At 02:17 AM 7/1/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Jan Hill > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:49 PM > > > > > >I am interested in any WTBS information about decedents of Joseph > >Hatfield 1739 - 1832 and Elizabeth Smith or Rachael Smith.Or The decedents > >of Jacob Phillips ( Son of Henry Phillips) 1803-1881 and Elizabeth Keesee > >1807-1882 > >My G.Grandfather was Johnson Hatfield ,1837-1926 he and his brothers > >George & Jeremiah were in the 39th Ky Co.E. US. George and Jeremiah both > >died at Peach Orchard, Ky in April and May 1863.It is possible two other > >brothers also enlisted with them. I have been told some of the family > >enlisted CSA. > > > >Janice H Hill > > > > > >==== KYWBTSVETS Mailing List ==== > >MESSAGE HINT: Take a moment to > >DELETE un-necessary information > >before replying to any message. > > >

FEDERALS MAKE AN ASTONISHING DEMAND OF TROOPS JULY FIRST OF 1861 In the early weeks of the War for Southern Independence southern communities had astounding demands made up on them. One unlikely request came on the 1st of June in 1861, when the War Department issued an order for troops to fill their ranks. This order was levied on the citizens of Kentucky and Tennessee. What was alarming was that Tennesse had already voted themselves out of the northern government. They'd voted in a convention for secession on the 6th of May. This vote was confirmed by a public referendum in June. Kentucky had at this point in time, voted to remain neutral. Needless to say that these southern governments are making plans to refute the order and to refuse to participate at all. This is another irritation in the hearts and minds of the Confederacy. Did anyone's ancestor have to face this delemina in 1861? Send your reply to our list so evereyone can understand this. THANKS for your participation! glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Hill To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:49 PM I am interested in any WTBS information about decedents of Joseph Hatfield 1739 - 1832 and Elizabeth Smith or Rachael Smith.Or The decedents of Jacob Phillips ( Son of Henry Phillips) 1803-1881 and Elizabeth Keesee 1807-1882 My G.Grandfather was Johnson Hatfield ,1837-1926 he and his brothers George & Jeremiah were in the 39th Ky Co.E. US. George and Jeremiah both died at Peach Orchard, Ky in April and May 1863.It is possible two other brothers also enlisted with them. I have been told some of the family enlisted CSA. Janice H Hill

CONFEDERATE CAVALRYMEN SKIRMISH AT HANOVER : JUNE THIRTIETH 1863 On the 30th of June in 1863, as the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia continue to march north in Pennsylvania, General Stuart leads his cavalry corps in a battle at Hanover, Pennsylvania. Southern cavalrymen engage union cavalry forces under Kilpatrick at Hanover and the fighting becomes very fierce. At one point as the federals are attacking, they come extremely close to captur- ing General Jeb Stuart himself. After hours of heavy cavalry fighting, the federals report nine- teen men killed, and 73 men wounded or missing in the action. In the battle southerners lose only nine men with 50 being wounded. Somehow 58 men were listed as missing. This event is only an op- ening volley to Gettysburg which is only hours away. Did anyone's ancestor participate in this Hanover Battle? Let our list know by sending a post to our mailing list. [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] THANKS in advance for all your participation with our lists! glenn

Greetings to all! I was curious to see if anyone had any information on a William Henry Scott who served in the CSA. He is a GGGrandfather of mine and I would love to prove his service. Thanks so mucj! Bill Knowles

Camp Chase Civil War cemetery If anyone has a Confederate soldier from any area buried at the Camp Chase Cemetery in Frankllin County, OH they have a website. The site lists the 2260 names of all the soldiers buried there at the cemetery. <http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/5109/>

>----- Original Message ----- > >Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 5:56 AM >Subject: KY Research Maps > >website with county formation maps and census maps for Kentucky >www.segenealogy.com/kentucky/ky_maps.htm

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF CONFEDERATE PRESIDENT JEFERSON DAVIS ELECTED NOVEMBER SIXTH 1861 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF During the first few days of November 1861, the southern popula- tion was energized with electing their Confederate president. In what would become an historic event, this election would confirm what their Provisional government had already set in place. On the 6th of November in 1861, the citizens of the Confederacy, went to their polls and elected Jefferson Davis to the office of president. Their selection proved that he was a popular and res- pected leader as when he was first chosen. Davis is elected to a six year term of office as President. He'd become their only Confederate Commander in Chief. He's joined by Alexander Stephens who became their only Vice-President. Does anyone have any ancestors who wrote about this political event during the life of the Confederate States of America?

ALMOST EVERY SOUTHERN SOLDIER SPOKE OF THEIR HOMESICK SENTIMENTS During the War for Southern Independence, soldiers experienced a variety of sentiments concerning their military service. It gave them periods of delight on ocasion and it also drug them through the depths of depression too. Many of the Confederate soldiers had not been far from home when they began to realize how homesick they had be come. One Alabama soldier wrote home and made mention of "I am heaire and my minds wit you at home." Another soldier from Virginia wrote about what he was feeling when he said, "Shut out from the world I'm hid so fer away in a pine thicket. We have nothing to think of but some of the loved ones at home."

A CONFEDERATE SOLDIER WROTE HOW HE WISHED FOR A FRIENDLY BULLET One of the most popular songs sung by soldiers around camp fires was Home, Sweet Home. Most soldiers had never ventured away from their hearths before they were called to defend the Confederacy. A majority of enlistees who gaily marched a way to seek glory on the battlefield soon found that army life with its hardships and diseases, was neither exciting nor glorious. One Confederate wrote how he wished for a 'friendly bullet' that would hit him 'just severely enough to send him home for 60 - 90 days. I would gladly welcome such a bullet and consider the Yank who fired it as a good kind fellow.'

CONFEDERATE FORCES ATTACK FEDERAL TRAINS ON OCTOBER TWENTIETH 1862 On the 20th of October in 1862 there are a number of Confederate attacks on federal forces who have infiltrated Tennessee. Trains filled with food supplies and armaments were slowly moving in to an area in Kentucky to supply other Northern forces. A long line of eighty one wagons were attacked on their way into Bardstown in Kentucky. The southerners quickly seize them and in a matter of hours were watching them all being destroyed. The Confederate units are subsequently able to seize yet another supply train of wagons several hours later in Bardstown itself.

SKYGEN 2002 Will be presented by The Southern Kentucky Genealogical Society and the Kentucky Library at Western Kentucky University Saturday, 5 October 2002, 8:30AM-4:00PM at the Downing University Center, Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, Kentucky. The speakers will be Pamela Boyer Porter, CGRS, CGL; J. Mark Lowe, CG; and Gail Miller, CG. There will be genealogy vendors present who will have a variety of genealogical merchandise for sale. Also door prizes will be awarded. Registration will take place from 8:30 to 9:15. The cost for the conference will be $36. To view the lecture schedule, obtain a registration form, or for directions to the Downing University Center, please access the website at http://www.kytnresearch.com/skygen/ Chad Reagan Vice-President and Publicity Chairman Southern Kentucky Genealogical Society

These names sure look familiar to me. Bud Union Soldiers executed by the Federal Government Christopher COFFEY Co. C, 27th Kentucky Infantry John W. COFFEY Co. C, 27th Kentucky Infantry William MINIX Co. A, 9th Kentucky Infantry Frank L. NEWTON Co. F, 13th Connecticut Infantry

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