Eileen and all, Thanks for the prompt reply and the information! I appreciate it. I am sorry I do not have the name of the father of Logan and Bobby J. Alexander by Anna Mae "Annie" Crabtree. Perhaps an Alexander or Crabtree researcher will help us on this. You may very well be correct that Anna Mae "Annie" Crabtree's last husband was the same Claude Bertram who was first married to Perna Elam. Now all we need is a marriage certificate or some other form of proof. That is a good lead that Annie's sister, Beulah Crabtree, married Everette Bertram. Sincerely, Anna Bertram Eileen Mullins wrote: "In the 1920 she is referred to as Annie age 4. Her tombstone at Elk Spring has Anna Mae and lists her children as Logan and Bobby Joe Alexander. Kentucky Births have their mother listed as Anna Crabtree. My research does not list the Alexander husband's given name do you know who it was? I also has Claude Bertram as her second husband - is this may the Claude who was married to Perna Elam and died in 1959. Claude then died in 1963, they are buried at Elk Spring also. Anna's sister Beulah married an Everette Alexander they are also buried at Elk Spring." Eileen Mullins elmullins@comcast.net