HI I tried to reach you and that site prohibited me to so I sent to KY list administrator only one mail would go through to, cause I didn't have your personal email add. I was taught never click on unknown url can be fatal. I hope this can be resolved. Soon in mean time I am unable to respond to list. And if this makes it to the list thanks to the persons who replied to my request. I have not seen it on my screen. SusiCP Susi Pentico in San Diego