I have a Joseph Neal md to Virginia Holt, whose son John Neal married Nancy Ryan 15 Mar, 1855 in Whitley Co., KY. John's son, Francis Marion Neal was born Dec 26, 1863 in Holly Hill, Whitley Co., Ky and married Lucinda Jane Gilreath. Joseph and Virginia Holt also had another son, Joseph Jr, born 1822 and married Emeline Foster abt 1850. Perhaps their was an earlier Francis Marion Neal that is the Marion you are looking for?? Just a thought. Ellen [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus