Hello! I am hoping to locate the names of the parents of John (Jackson) Ragan b. 15 March 1830 in VA and d. 23 Aug 1905 along and the parents of his wife Rebecca Savage b. 12 April 1831 in KY and d. 26 Sept 1909. I found that they are both buried in the Shearer Valley Cemetery. Also, is there anyone on this list that is a volunteer for taking photos of tombstones? Thanks very much. Karen Phillips Hanover, IN ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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Anna, I am so sorry to hear this about Rosemary Shields Kennedy passing away. I am also sorry that I never had the chance to meet her. She was totally loved and respected. Thanks for the below information. I shall go to the website and see what I shall see. I ordered a book on Fentress Co. TN from a gentleman on Amazon.com, was so excited, I never received it though, and am getting a refund. I am so disappointed because I thought maybe I could find some other information on the mystery of Silas and Adeline Maynard. Will have to try again to get that book. Take care, and Anna and all of you on the list, have a blessed and wonderful Thanksgiving. Lea http://harlanogleky.tripod.com/waynecountymuseum/ >

Lea, If you will go to bookfinder.com and put the words Fentress Tennessee in the title portion of the search engine you will get several hits of different kinds... good luck Paulette Williams IBSSG I hear ethereal whispers, persuasive, soft and still,"Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will ?" _________________________________________________________________ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM

Oh Anna, I'm sorry to hear that! Rosemary was so proud of the museum and never missed an opportunity to promote it. I truly will miss her! Fay Clark On Nov 18, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Anna L Bertram wrote: > Lea, > > The museum has a nice website. It tells about the Outstanding > Museum award it received, and much more. It can be accessed at > http://harlanogleky.tripod.com/waynecountymuseum/ > > I did not know until I read the Museum Newsletter onsite today that > an old research buddy of mine has passed away. She was Rosemary > Shields Kennedy. We had been writing about the BROWN and YOUNG and > other Wayne Co., KY families for about 12 years. Many of you will > remember her and will miss her too. It was largely her generous > financial contribution in memory of her son, Wm. Crenshaw Kennedy, > Jr., that enabled the museum to become a reality. It is an > excellent source of local history and genealogy. > > Anna Bertram > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Lea, The museum has a nice website. It tells about the Outstanding Museum award it received, and much more. It can be accessed at http://harlanogleky.tripod.com/waynecountymuseum/ I did not know until I read the Museum Newsletter onsite today that an old research buddy of mine has passed away. She was Rosemary Shields Kennedy. We had been writing about the BROWN and YOUNG and other Wayne Co., KY families for about 12 years. Many of you will remember her and will miss her too. It was largely her generous financial contribution in memory of her son, Wm. Crenshaw Kennedy, Jr., that enabled the museum to become a reality. It is an excellent source of local history and genealogy. Anna Bertram

Anna, I go there everytime I visit my sister in Monticello. I love the history that I find there, and how nice the people who run the museum are. They are so helpful to all who come there to visit them. They did receive an award for that museum I believe. Lea

Harlan Ogle emailed me recently to report they are working on a new edition of the picture book titled THE BERTRAM BOOK, which was originally compiled and published about 50 years ago by the late Luther York and Myrtle Dalton. The new edition will have all the old pictures but will also have obituaries, an index, and other enhancements. It will be sold through the William Crenshaw Kennedy, Jr. Memorial Museum in Monticello, Wayne Co., KY. The proceeds will benefit the museum and its genealogy library. This is really good news for all the Bertram researchers and descendants! If you haven't yet been to the museum you're in for a real treat! It's a great place to do genealogy research also. The public library in Monticello has a very good genealogy department too. I recommend planning to visit both if you can get to Monticello for research. Have a Happy Thanksgiving! Anna Bertram

I use a good spam filter, and you probably do the same. I have whitelisted you and that means that I will receive all the emails you send to me. I would appreciate it if you would whitelist my email address: abertram@dtccom.net in your spam filter. If you don't have a spam filter, I can recommend SPAMfighter. It is a highly effective free spam filter for Outlook and Outlook Express. You can get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/Pro I hope that you will whitelist me, so we can continue to communicate safely via email in the future. Best regards Anna Bertram

I use a good spam filter, and you probably do the same. I have whitelisted you and that means that I will receive all the emails you send to me. I would appreciate it if you would whitelist my email address: abertram@dtccom.net in your spam filter. If you don't have a spam filter, I can recommend SPAMfighter. It is a highly effective free spam filter for Outlook and Outlook Express. You can get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/Pro I hope that you will whitelist me, so we can continue to communicate safely via email in the future. Best regards Anna Bertram

Linda Schurman, 53 September 18, 2007 FOWLER -- Linda Anderson Vale Schurman, 53, of Lafayette, formerly of Fowler, died at 9:15 p.m. Saturday, Sept. 15, 2007, at Methodist Hospital in Indianapolis. Born Oct. 1, 1953, in Fowler, she was the daughter of the late Oscar "Pete" and Pearlie Bell Anderson. She attended Benton Central High School and lived most of her life in Fowler and Lafayette. She also had a home in Florida. She married Bill Schurman on April 3, 2004, in Florida, and he survives. For the past 17 years, she was the owner and operater of L.A. Fireworks, owning three stores. She enjoyed singing and traveling. Also surviving are two brothers and two sisters, Ernie Anderson (companion: Jackie), Doris Goetz (companion: Bill) and Oscar Anderson, (wife: Linda), all of Fowler, and Joyce Campbell (husband: Carl) of Earl Park; Paula Kerns, who had lived in her home; and three stepsons, Bill Jr. Schurman and Bart Schurman, both of Lafayette, and Brent Schurman of Indianapolis. Friends may callfrom 4 p.m. to 8 p.m. Tuesday, Sept. 18, 2007, at Windler Funeral Home, Fowler, with funeral there at 1 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2007, the Rev. Judy Becker officiating. Interment Fowler Cemetery. Also surviving are several nieces and nephews. Preceded in death by one brother, Donnie and a niece, Becky. Linda passed away with her family by her side. She enjoyed being with family and friends Memorials to Benton County Cancer Association. Linda's parents were Wayne County, Kentucky natives. Dorothy L. O'Brien, 80 September 18, 2007 FRANKFORT -- Dorothy L. O'Brien, 80, of 656 Delphi Ave., died at 3:10 a.m. Monday, Sept. 17, 2007, at St. Vincent Hospital in Indianapolis. She had been ill for the past six weeks. Born Nov. 15, 1926, in Russellville, Ky., she was the daughter of the late Henry J. and Jane Young Fugate. She was a 1944 graduate of Auburn High School in Kentucky and moved from Kentucky to Frankfort in 1950. She married Michael C. O'Brien on June 15, 1945. He died Jan. 24, 1998. Mrs. O'Brien was a homemaker and a member of Harmony Baptist Church, former secretary of the Faith Baptist Church and a member of Veterans of Foreign Wars Auxiliary. She was an avid Indiana Pacers and Colts fan. Surviving are a daughter, Kathy L. Kanatzer (husband: Jack), and three sons, Michael W. O'Brien (wife: Donna J.), John R. O'Brien (wife: Susan) and Jeffery C. O'Brien (wife: Terri L.), all of Frankfort; two brothers and two sisters. Visitation 5-8 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2007, at Goodwin Funeral Home, Frankfort. Services there at 1 p.m. Thursday, Sept. 20, 2007. Interment Greenlawn Memorial Park. Surviving are 12 grandchildren and 23 great-grandchildren. She enjoyed her family and grandchildren. Memorial donations may be made to Clinton County Cancer Fund with envelopes available. Online condolences may be made to goodwinfuneralhome.com Eileen Mullins Tomorrow's Heirlooms elmullins@insightbb.com www.thceramics.com

Lea, The 1890 Federal Population Census was destroyed though a series of mishaps, fire, flood, ignorance, and misunderstandings in Washington, D.C. It happened a long time ago before the records were copied or microfilmed. Only small fragments survived for a few of the states. Some counties have tried to re-create a substitute for the 1890 census from school records, tax lists, and other public documents. I know Clinton Co., KY is one county that has done this. The KY State Library and Archives is on line at http://kdla.ky.gov/collections.htm You can go to the site to look for an index of the holdings. This would be a good place for you to start looking to see what years of deeds and other public records are available for the counties where Silas was known to have lived. You will be looking for microfilms to rent or buy, which you can then take to your library if it has a reader to look at the film. If you are lucky you will first locate an index in book form. You might also go to the nearest LDS Family History Center to order films and get advice on what to do next to climb over your brick wall. Take all you have so far with you when you go so your previous work will not be duplicated. Besides, what you now have will give the helpers at the LDS ideas of where to look. You might find some more information to help you on RootsWeb, which is free at http://www.rootsweb.com/ Double click on http://rwguide.rootsweb.com/ for lots of great ideas. Good luck, Lea! Anna Bertram abertram@dtccom.net Home Phone 615-765-5357

Anna, no record of my Silas Maynard, Mainard, Maynor being in the Civil War. Cannot find out to much about my g-grandfather's siblings either. Out of 6, I can only find out where 2 of them lived and died. No Silas Maynard listed on the census where they were. I did not know that the 1890 census were destroyed. Interesting fact. How did that happen, and what a loss that was. How to check a deed book Anna? I haven't the foggiest idea??? Thanks for your help Anna. It is appreciated. Lea > Lea, > > Was your Silas Mainord/Maynard in the Civil War? If so, there could be a > pension file that would answer your questions. I found two Confederate > soldiers serving from Tennessee on the US Soldiers and Sailors website. > One was Silas A. Maynard or Mainard (4th Battalion, Tennessee Cavalry) and > the other was Silas D. Maynard (25th Regiment Tennessee Infantry. Since > Kentucky is a border state it is possible men from there would join up in > Tennessee. > > Since the 1890 population census was destroyed there is a 20 year gap > between the census of 1880 and the next one in 1900. This is always a > difficult time to research. Did any of Silas's children marry during those > years? If so, where? It is possible Silas would be where his children > were. Have you checked the deed books? > > Just a few thoughts . . . > > Anna Bertram > > >

Lea, Was your Silas Mainord/Maynard in the Civil War? If so, there could be a pension file that would answer your questions. I found two Confederate soldiers serving from Tennessee on the US Soldiers and Sailors website. One was Silas A. Maynard or Mainard (4th Battalion, Tennessee Cavalry) and the other was Silas D. Maynard (25th Regiment Tennessee Infantry. Since Kentucky is a border state it is possible men from there would join up in Tennessee. Since the 1890 population census was destroyed there is a 20 year gap between the census of 1880 and the next one in 1900. This is always a difficult time to research. Did any of Silas's children marry during those years? If so, where? It is possible Silas would be where his children were. Have you checked the deed books? Just a few thoughts . . . Anna Bertram

Anna I made a mistake, another one, I can find them until the 1880's, and after that nothing on Silas or Adeline Mainord . They were only 39 & 40 years of age then?.......I have checked all spellings of the surname of Maynard, they are Mainord, Mainard, Maynard, but not Minyards. Thanks so much. I have not seen that one. I wonder if the census takers could to spell the names, or if the people themselves could not?I think I have seen it spelled Minor also. Thanks again Anna, cannot wait to get home to check this Minyard spelling. Lea > > Have you checked for alternate spellings of Maynard? There were a bunch of > Minyards in Barren Co., KY on the 1870 census. Are any of them your Maynards? > > Anna Bertram > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lea Roberts > > They were in Hicksville, Barren County, KY, and I have tried to check their > records Susan, to no avail. Nothing is showing up. I cannot find them after > the 1860 census records, and they were not that old then, in their 40's? I > even tried Fentress Co. TN, where they were born to no avail.Maybe they > moved on to some other state? This is another dilema of mine about the > Maynard families. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I cannot believe that I typed that list, but if Susan said I did, I did!<S>My apologies, did not intend that for sure. These are my ancestors, therefore, I would not degrade them, nor the state that I was born in, and totally love. I must go to my optometrist immediately!Well, I will wait until after my surgery on Tuesday, then I will go. Have a great day. Lea -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Organicsusan@wmconnect.com > > > That was in Hiseville (Barren Co.KY) > > Sorta got a smile out of Hicksville :-)) > > There were quite a few Minyards in the Park City area of Barren county still > in the 1900's > > > I'm here, and thought I would put my 2 cents worth in again. > > Susan </HTML> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

That was in Hiseville (Barren Co.KY) Sorta got a smile out of Hicksville :-)) There were quite a few Minyards in the Park City area of Barren county still in the 1900's I'm here, and thought I would put my 2 cents worth in again. Susan </HTML>

Lea, Have you checked for alternate spellings of Maynard? There were a bunch of Minyards in Barren Co., KY on the 1870 census. Are any of them your Maynards? Anna Bertram ----- Original Message ----- From: Lea Roberts They were in Hicksville, Barren County, KY, and I have tried to check their records Susan, to no avail. Nothing is showing up. I cannot find them after the 1860 census records, and they were not that old then, in their 40's? I even tried Fentress Co. TN, where they were born to no avail.Maybe they moved on to some other state? This is another dilema of mine about the Maynard families.

Susan, I am so sorry, I meant the 1880 census. Lea > >> >> Were they in the 1860, 1870 and 1880 US Census of Barren County at >> that time? >> > They were in Hicksville, Barren County, KY, and I have tried to check > their > records Susan, to no avail. Nothing is showing up. I cannot find them > after > the 1860 census records, and they were not that old then, in their 40's? I > even tried Fentress Co. TN, where they were born to no avail.Maybe they > moved on to some other state? This is another dilema of mine about the > Maynard families. > >> Have you checked the Barren County KY Cemetry Records; however >> many, >> many cemetries are much smaller & some done away with since those years. >> At >> the time of the writings of the cemetry records in the books there are >> many >> unmarked graves in a lot of cemetries, especially those in the farmlands >> areas. >>> I do believe most of the graves in the Hiseville Cemetry do have >> stones. >> >>Many of the smaller cemeteries in Barren Co, have unmarked graves. I just >>need the right connection, and I will find out where they died and are >>buried! > > Thanks so much Susan. > > Blessings to you and yours, > > Lea > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

> > Were they in the 1860, 1870 and 1880 US Census of Barren County at > that time? > They were in Hicksville, Barren County, KY, and I have tried to check their records Susan, to no avail. Nothing is showing up. I cannot find them after the 1860 census records, and they were not that old then, in their 40's? I even tried Fentress Co. TN, where they were born to no avail.Maybe they moved on to some other state? This is another dilema of mine about the Maynard families. > Have you checked the Barren County KY Cemetry Records; however many, > many cemetries are much smaller & some done away with since those years. > At > the time of the writings of the cemetry records in the books there are > many > unmarked graves in a lot of cemetries, especially those in the farmlands > areas. >> I do believe most of the graves in the Hiseville Cemetry do have > stones. > >Many of the smaller cemeteries in Barren Co, have unmarked graves. I just >need the right connection, and I will find out where they died and are >buried! Thanks so much Susan. Blessings to you and yours, Lea