Thanks. Yes, I knew they were buried in Wayne Co., but they are not listed on the Kentucky Death Index; so I'm trying to find out where they died. Thanks again, Karen **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Try this site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~kywaycem/index.html Look for Pleasant Hill Cemetery I found Isaac, Lula & Abby, but not Sarah. Eileen Mullins Tomorrow's Heirlooms elmullins@insightbb.com www.thceramics.com -----Original Message----- From: kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KPhill2906@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:42 AM To: KYWAYNE@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYWAYNE] Hicks, Isaac Denton & family I am trying to locate the death location of the following people. They are not on the Kentucky Death Index. 1) Isaac Denton Hicks b. 28 Aug 1866; d. 28 April 1945 2) Lula E. Bertram Hicks b. 12 Dec 1872; d. 14 Feb 1953 3) Abigail H. Littrell Hicks b. 29 Dec 1829; d. 16 April 1919 4) Saah Caroline Hicks Bertram b. 25 Aug 1850; d. 29 Jan 1923 These folks are buried in Wayne Co. Hope to hear from somone! Karen HAPPY HOLIDAYS! **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Karen, One user submitted tree on Ancestry.com gives Dayton, Montgomery Co., Ohio as the place of death for both Isaac Denton Hicks and his wife, Lula E. (Bertram) Hicks. (No proof.) You might write to the Ohio Historical Society for a copy of the death certificates for $7.00 each. The site is found at http://www.ohiohistory.org/dindex/ As a Bertram family researcher I will be very interested in what you find. I'll be glad to share any Bertram information I have with you. Sincerely, Anna Bertram E-Address: abertram at dtccom.net ----- Original Message ----- From: KPhill2906@aol.com Karen wrote: I am trying to locate the death location of the following people. They are not on the Kentucky Death Index. 1) Isaac Denton Hicks b. 28 Aug 1866; d. 28 April 1945 2) Lula E. Bertram Hicks b. 12 Dec 1872; d. 14 Feb 1953 3) Abigail H. Littrell Hicks b. 29 Dec 1829; d. 16 April 1919 4) Sarah Caroline Hicks Bertram b. 25 Aug 1850; d. 29 Jan 1923 These folks are buried in Wayne Co.

I am trying to locate the death location of the following people. They are not on the Kentucky Death Index. 1) Isaac Denton Hicks b. 28 Aug 1866; d. 28 April 1945 2) Lula E. Bertram Hicks b. 12 Dec 1872; d. 14 Feb 1953 3) Abigail H. Littrell Hicks b. 29 Dec 1829; d. 16 April 1919 4) Saah Caroline Hicks Bertram b. 25 Aug 1850; d. 29 Jan 1923 These folks are buried in Wayne Co. Hope to hear from somone! Karen HAPPY HOLIDAYS! **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Lea, No, Levi is not connected to John William Clark, at least not in a way you need to be concerned about right now. DNA testing indicates he's a very distant cousin, but he and his line never came to the Cumberland River area. Regarding our Bell connection, we are descended from Lindsey Bell of Randolph Co NC through two of his sons--William Bell Sr and Francis Bell Sr: Lindsey Bell m. Nancy Unknown William Bell Sr Sarah "Sally" Bell m. 2nd Jesse Clark Sr James William Clark m. Margaret Jane Bell Francis "Frank" Bell Sr m. Elizabeth Unknown William R. Bell m. 2nd Rebecca Williams Margaret Jane Bell m. James William Clark From there we descend from each of Margaret & James' twins Elisha Thomas & Jesse Calvin Clark. Fay On Nov 25, 2007, at 7:31 PM, Lea Roberts wrote: > Hello list, > > here are some Bell families still in and around Monticello, KY if I > am not > mistaken. Somewhere along the line, I am somehow connected to the > Bells via > the Clarks, or so I have been told. > > Fay, is this Levi Clark any relation to John William Clark in any way? > > Thanks, > > Lea > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello list, here are some Bell families still in and around Monticello, KY if I am not mistaken. Somewhere along the line, I am somehow connected to the Bells via the Clarks, or so I have been told. Fay, is this Levi Clark any relation to John William Clark in any way? Thanks, Lea

Faye, Add the prolific numbers of Bells to the problem of their nomadic nature. I haven't seen a Bell family yet that didn't have family just all over the country.? They wander all over the place!? The longest my Bells stayed put was during the period between 1810 and 1880. My line was all located in Warrick County, Indiana.? Of?course, the other half?of the brothers were in Hardin and Grayson?Counties, Kentucky. ?After that, they spread out and there was just no finding them. Now they can be found in almost every state in the union. Even with John Bell's will, we had two John Bell's to sort out.? Seems there were two of them who settled in the area. And both had wives named Margaret. It would have been so easy to assume they were one and the same, since the other John Bell's father-in-law wrote a will and named his daughter Margaret Bell and husband John Bell as heirs.? We would have had the surname of his wife. As it is, we have no idea who his first wife was, since he married her in Pennsylvania. -----Original Message----- From: Fay Clark <gmcflc@gmail.com> To: kywayne@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:53 am Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname Wendy, I'm so sorry. It vaguely rings a bell (no pun intended), but I see so much information on a daily basis, that I'm hard put to remember it all. When there's something to connect to, it helps tremendously, but in this case I guess I did not see anything to connect to at the time. Your friend might benefit from the dna comparison if she can come up with a male descendant to test. Of course, we still need to come up with some bona fide male descendants for Joseph Bell and Lindsey Bell to participate in the dna project, too. Wish I could help with your Bell line. I was reading in the Bell DNA Project today that there were 174 patriots with the Bell surname during the Revolution. There were over 16,000 Bells in the 1870 census. I thought the Clarks were prolific, but they are a drop in the bucket compared to all the Bell lines floating around. Fay On Nov 24, 2007, at 7:42 PM, wckrzyzanowski@aol.com wrote: > > Faye, > > My Bells are, indeed, a different family from the one that settled > in Wayne County.? I have a friend whose Bells did settle in Wayne > County, and that's why I am subscribed to this list.? We haven't > established a link to that family either.? All that we have for > that family is one Joseph Bell who may or may not have married > Salena Christian.? There were four sons, James William, Wesley > Thomas, Riley Francis, and Joseph B. They all moved to Reynolds > County, Missouri around 1900. Remember me now?? > > We were thinking the same thing when we got the match for our > Bells, that of an illegitimacy in the lineage back somewhere.? And > I am certain that Mr Long was REALLy dismayed to get such a result > from HIS test. Our Bells flow from a John Bell who left a will > naming his son George's four sons James, Isaac, William, and > Charles as heirs along with his daughters Margaret Stovall, > Elizabeth Nichols, Susanna Carby, and Catherine Shoptaw in 1824.? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fay Clark <gmcflc@gmail.com> > To: kywayne@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 5:32 pm > Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname > > > > > Hi Wendy, > > It sounds like your Bells may be a different line than the ones who > settled in Wayne Co KY. E-town is about 45 minutes from where I live > in Louisville, and the Nelson/Hardin/Grayson County area is a > different migration route than the ones who arrived in Wayne County > took. I also wonder if there might have been an illegitimacy > somewhere along the way? I'm not unfamiliar with the Long surname, > and it wouldn't be surprising to find Longs in the same area as the > Bells. In fact, the Longs of Wayne County came from the same area of > North Carolina as my particular Bell line, and to this day live in > the same area as the Bells in Wayne & Clinton Counties. Do you have > a particular lead that leads you to think there may be a connection > to the Wayne County Bell lines? There was a Samuel Bell in the > Madison County area of Kentucky very early (probably when it was > still Kentucky County VA), and his proximity to my Clark lines has > made me wonder if he might be connected to my Wayne County Bells, but > I don't have anything but speculation at this point. > > I think my Bells may be related to the Stone Church Bells of Augusta > Co VA, but if you had asked me about that possibility a few years > ago, I'd have said, "No way." New information has come to light that > makes DNA comparison much more desirable. > > Fay Clark > > > On Nov 24, 2007, at 6:15 PM, wckrzyzanowski@aol.com wrote: > >> My Bell surname is a participant of the Bell DNA website, and the >> only match we have gotten was one with a LONG surname. Our Bells >> lived in Kentucky County, Virginia, Nelson/Hardin/Grayson Counties >> in Kentucky. The main town was Elizabethtown, Kentucky.? Wendy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christine Bramstedt <ctbee@apci.net> >> To: kywayne@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:32 am >> Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname >> >> >> >> Hi Fay: I am a Bell descendant but cannot take the test of course >> because >> I'm a female and don't have the Bell name. I'm a Bell through John >> S. Bell >> who married Ruth Simpson. Is there proof of the Joseph Bell and >> Nancy >> Davenport line? If I can add anything to the research let me >> know. Chris >> Bramstedt >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Fay Clark >> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:19 AM >> To: KYWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com; CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L-request@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname >> >> >> Are there any BELL descendants on the list that are participating in >> the Bell DNA Project? I notice that the project has grown >> considerably, but I don't see any submissions from the Joseph Bell/ >> Nancy Davenport line or the Randolph Co NC Lindsey Bell line. >> Please contact me if you are a Bell researcher/descendant. I have a >> theory I'd like to prove/disprove. >> >> Fay Clark >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE- >> request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of >> the message >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ >> __ >> Email and AIM finally together. 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Patti, We really do need to explore this. I'm currently in contact with a descendant of one Levi Clark whose son William T. Clark married Sally Rushton in Hendricks Co IN in 1840. DNA testing has determined that Levi Clark and my Thomas Clark Sr share a common ancestor, probably before their respective families arrived in America. Regarding Wayne Co IN, my husband grew up in neighboring Henry Co IN, but his entire family is from Wayne Co KY. I am very familiar with the mass migration of Randolph Co families to that part of Indiana, as well as to Wayne Co KY. The curious part is that Mike has a cousin, a daughter of his aunt (a Clark), who married a Thornsberry-- no doubt also a corruption of the same Thornborough name. The plantation of old Samuel Clark in Randolph Co NC shared a property line with the Thornborough plantation, and it is thought that old Samuel may have had a daughter who married a Thornborough. I would very much like a copy of the William Barnett/Mary Bell marriage record. Can you scan and e-mail it to me? Fay On Nov 25, 2007, at 1:49 AM, PURDYDAAWG@aol.com wrote: > Fay, > > That is more than likely my William Barnett. I decend from his son > James > Silas Barnett, who went to Knox & Harlan County Kentucky. I haven't > searched > back farther than James Silas. I do have a copy of William & > Mary's Marriage. A > Jacob Patton lists on the marriage with them. I can send a copy of > it if you > would like. > > Also another line of my family, ties into the Clark's of Randolph > County. My > Thornborough Family, later changed it's name to Thornbro, primarily > my family > is the only one that spells it "Thornbro". Moved from Wayne Co, > Indiana to > Hendricks Co. Indiana, and my line comes to Madison & Delaware Co. > Indiana. > > > Patti > > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of > 2007's hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007? > NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Wendy, I'm so sorry. It vaguely rings a bell (no pun intended), but I see so much information on a daily basis, that I'm hard put to remember it all. When there's something to connect to, it helps tremendously, but in this case I guess I did not see anything to connect to at the time. Your friend might benefit from the dna comparison if she can come up with a male descendant to test. Of course, we still need to come up with some bona fide male descendants for Joseph Bell and Lindsey Bell to participate in the dna project, too. Wish I could help with your Bell line. I was reading in the Bell DNA Project today that there were 174 patriots with the Bell surname during the Revolution. There were over 16,000 Bells in the 1870 census. I thought the Clarks were prolific, but they are a drop in the bucket compared to all the Bell lines floating around. Fay On Nov 24, 2007, at 7:42 PM, wckrzyzanowski@aol.com wrote: > > Faye, > > My Bells are, indeed, a different family from the one that settled > in Wayne County.? I have a friend whose Bells did settle in Wayne > County, and that's why I am subscribed to this list.? We haven't > established a link to that family either.? All that we have for > that family is one Joseph Bell who may or may not have married > Salena Christian.? There were four sons, James William, Wesley > Thomas, Riley Francis, and Joseph B. They all moved to Reynolds > County, Missouri around 1900. Remember me now?? > > We were thinking the same thing when we got the match for our > Bells, that of an illegitimacy in the lineage back somewhere.? And > I am certain that Mr Long was REALLy dismayed to get such a result > from HIS test. Our Bells flow from a John Bell who left a will > naming his son George's four sons James, Isaac, William, and > Charles as heirs along with his daughters Margaret Stovall, > Elizabeth Nichols, Susanna Carby, and Catherine Shoptaw in 1824.? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fay Clark <gmcflc@gmail.com> > To: kywayne@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 5:32 pm > Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname > > > > > Hi Wendy, > > It sounds like your Bells may be a different line than the ones who > settled in Wayne Co KY. E-town is about 45 minutes from where I live > in Louisville, and the Nelson/Hardin/Grayson County area is a > different migration route than the ones who arrived in Wayne County > took. I also wonder if there might have been an illegitimacy > somewhere along the way? I'm not unfamiliar with the Long surname, > and it wouldn't be surprising to find Longs in the same area as the > Bells. In fact, the Longs of Wayne County came from the same area of > North Carolina as my particular Bell line, and to this day live in > the same area as the Bells in Wayne & Clinton Counties. Do you have > a particular lead that leads you to think there may be a connection > to the Wayne County Bell lines? There was a Samuel Bell in the > Madison County area of Kentucky very early (probably when it was > still Kentucky County VA), and his proximity to my Clark lines has > made me wonder if he might be connected to my Wayne County Bells, but > I don't have anything but speculation at this point. > > I think my Bells may be related to the Stone Church Bells of Augusta > Co VA, but if you had asked me about that possibility a few years > ago, I'd have said, "No way." New information has come to light that > makes DNA comparison much more desirable. > > Fay Clark > > > On Nov 24, 2007, at 6:15 PM, wckrzyzanowski@aol.com wrote: > >> My Bell surname is a participant of the Bell DNA website, and the >> only match we have gotten was one with a LONG surname. Our Bells >> lived in Kentucky County, Virginia, Nelson/Hardin/Grayson Counties >> in Kentucky. The main town was Elizabethtown, Kentucky.? Wendy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christine Bramstedt <ctbee@apci.net> >> To: kywayne@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:32 am >> Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname >> >> >> >> Hi Fay: I am a Bell descendant but cannot take the test of course >> because >> I'm a female and don't have the Bell name. I'm a Bell through John >> S. Bell >> who married Ruth Simpson. Is there proof of the Joseph Bell and >> Nancy >> Davenport line? If I can add anything to the research let me >> know. Chris >> Bramstedt >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Fay Clark >> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:19 AM >> To: KYWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com; CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L-request@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname >> >> >> Are there any BELL descendants on the list that are participating in >> the Bell DNA Project? I notice that the project has grown >> considerably, but I don't see any submissions from the Joseph Bell/ >> Nancy Davenport line or the Randolph Co NC Lindsey Bell line. >> Please contact me if you are a Bell researcher/descendant. I have a >> theory I'd like to prove/disprove. >> >> Fay Clark >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE- >> request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of >> the message >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ >> __ >> Email and AIM finally together. 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Fay, That is more than likely my William Barnett. I decend from his son James Silas Barnett, who went to Knox & Harlan County Kentucky. I haven't searched back farther than James Silas. I do have a copy of William & Mary's Marriage. A Jacob Patton lists on the marriage with them. I can send a copy of it if you would like. Also another line of my family, ties into the Clark's of Randolph County. My Thornborough Family, later changed it's name to Thornbro, primarily my family is the only one that spells it "Thornbro". Moved from Wayne Co, Indiana to Hendricks Co. Indiana, and my line comes to Madison & Delaware Co. Indiana. Patti **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Patti, Ok, you've got my attention. I've been puzzling over a Lincoln County Treasury Warrant for quite some time--Could this be your William Barnett? Entry #: 1301 Date: 7/17/1781 Book: 1 Page: 146 Name: Barnett, William Assignee of #1: Stewart, William Assignee of #2: Clark, Thomas Acres: 900 Type of WT: Treasury WT #1: 5808 WT #2: 2984 Watercourse: Paint Lick Creek Surveyed\Amended\Withdrawn: W Beginning at the mouth of Paint Lick Creek running an east course on both side of the creek to include the upper Salt Lick. My Samuel Clark b. 1775 (who settled on Otter Creek and whose children Jesse & Elizabeth married two children of William Bell Sr from Randolph Co NC) came with his father Thomas Clark b. ca. 1755 from the Paint Lick Creek area of Madison Co (present day Garrard Co) to Pulaski Co about 1798 when it was still a part of Lincoln Co. All the Clark families who settled on the Paint Lick Creek watercourse appear to be related. DNA testing confirms that my Thomas > Samuel Clark line is related to the Orange Co NC Clarks who migrated to Madison Co in 1787. I have not been able to determine where my Thomas Clark came from and when he arrived in Madison County--I do have some theories I won't get into here--but I can tell you that John & Elinor Clark sold their property in Randolph Co NC on 19 Jan 1786 and came with Elinor's sister Catherine & her husband to Madison Co. They were polled in Madison Co in 1787. A third sister Sarah Clark married Thomas Clark of Randolph Co NC, a son of Samuel Clark who died in RC in 1783. This family appears to have been at the very least acquainted with the Randolph Co Bells, per court records. For example: 1779 Jun 13 - Wednesday - Randolph Co, NC - Minutes Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions (1779-1782) Jurors: Edward Sharp, JOHN CLARK, SAMUEL CLARK, Lewis Ashleman, William C..., Wm. Gope, Lewis Morgan, John Brown, WILLIAM BELL, JOHN VICKORY, Edward Thornburgh, Marmaduke Vickory, SAMUEL CLARK JUNR., THOMAS CLARK & Samuel Thompson or any 12 lay off the road from the Cross Roads to BELLS MILL & from thence the best & convenient way to GUILFORD Co, line going by Mendon Halls Mill and that they make report to next court. (Note that John Vickory was the father of Francis Vickery who migrated to Wayne Co KY in 1807.) Anyway, my Thomas Clark who was in Madison Co also had a son named Stewart, which has led to speculation that there was some kind of connection to a family with the Stewart surname. For that reason, this Treasury Warrant has been intriguing, but the Thomas Clark in question appears to have been older than Thomas Clark b. 1755. Mike & I drove out to Garrard Co in July and walked on the site of this land, which had what appears to have been a lucrative salt lick (necessary to produce saltpeter for the Revolutionary War) and a ferry--Saunders Ferry--which would have been the most direct route to Lexington & Fayette County from Stanford. The Samuel Bell I mentioned also owned property in this area. I've had my eye on him as a possible connection to my Wayne Co Bells, but he appears to have come from Virginia and the connection, IF it exists, is elusive. As for William Barnett, if he's yours, I'd like to know as much as possible about him and Mary Bell. There may be much more under the surface here than we realize. Fay Clark On Nov 24, 2007, at 7:58 PM, PURDYDAAWG@aol.com wrote: > Wendy, > > Was your Bell Family in Lincoln County Kentucky, prior to 1800? I > have a > William Barnett who married a Mary Bell on 04 APR 1785 Lincoln > County Ky, in my > line, but I have not searched it out to see where they come from. > > Patti > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of > 2007's hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007? > NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Patti, we are only going by the will, which listed the four daughters that John had.? If he had other daughters that died before the will was written, they might not have been listed, although George, his son, was deceased at the time the will was written, and that is why HIS sons were listed as heirs. -----Original Message----- From: PURDYDAAWG@aol.com To: kywayne@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 6:58 pm Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname Wendy, Was your Bell Family in Lincoln County Kentucky, prior to 1800? I have a William Barnett who married a Mary Bell on 04 APR 1785 Lincoln County Ky, in my line, but I have not searched it out to see where they come from. Patti **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Wendy, Was your Bell Family in Lincoln County Kentucky, prior to 1800? I have a William Barnett who married a Mary Bell on 04 APR 1785 Lincoln County Ky, in my line, but I have not searched it out to see where they come from. Patti **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Faye, My Bells are, indeed, a different family from the one that settled in Wayne County.? I have a friend whose Bells did settle in Wayne County, and that's why I am subscribed to this list.? We haven't established a link to that family either.? All that we have for that family is one Joseph Bell who may or may not have married Salena Christian.? There were four sons, James William, Wesley Thomas, Riley Francis, and Joseph B. They all moved to Reynolds County, Missouri around 1900. Remember me now?? We were thinking the same thing when we got the match for our Bells, that of an illegitimacy in the lineage back somewhere.? And I am certain that Mr Long was REALLy dismayed to get such a result from HIS test. Our Bells flow from a John Bell who left a will naming his son George's four sons James, Isaac, William, and Charles as heirs along with his daughters Margaret Stovall, Elizabeth Nichols, Susanna Carby, and Catherine Shoptaw in 1824.? -----Original Message----- From: Fay Clark <gmcflc@gmail.com> To: kywayne@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 5:32 pm Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname Hi Wendy, It sounds like your Bells may be a different line than the ones who settled in Wayne Co KY. E-town is about 45 minutes from where I live in Louisville, and the Nelson/Hardin/Grayson County area is a different migration route than the ones who arrived in Wayne County took. I also wonder if there might have been an illegitimacy somewhere along the way? I'm not unfamiliar with the Long surname, and it wouldn't be surprising to find Longs in the same area as the Bells. In fact, the Longs of Wayne County came from the same area of North Carolina as my particular Bell line, and to this day live in the same area as the Bells in Wayne & Clinton Counties. Do you have a particular lead that leads you to think there may be a connection to the Wayne County Bell lines? There was a Samuel Bell in the Madison County area of Kentucky very early (probably when it was still Kentucky County VA), and his proximity to my Clark lines has made me wonder if he might be connected to my Wayne County Bells, but I don't have anything but speculation at this point. I think my Bells may be related to the Stone Church Bells of Augusta Co VA, but if you had asked me about that possibility a few years ago, I'd have said, "No way." New information has come to light that makes DNA comparison much more desirable. Fay Clark On Nov 24, 2007, at 6:15 PM, wckrzyzanowski@aol.com wrote: > My Bell surname is a participant of the Bell DNA website, and the > only match we have gotten was one with a LONG surname. Our Bells > lived in Kentucky County, Virginia, Nelson/Hardin/Grayson Counties > in Kentucky. The main town was Elizabethtown, Kentucky.? Wendy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christine Bramstedt <ctbee@apci.net> > To: kywayne@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:32 am > Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname > > > > Hi Fay: I am a Bell descendant but cannot take the test of course > because > I'm a female and don't have the Bell name. I'm a Bell through John > S. Bell > who married Ruth Simpson. Is there proof of the Joseph Bell and Nancy > Davenport line? If I can add anything to the research let me > know. Chris > Bramstedt > > -----Original Message----- > From: kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Fay Clark > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:19 AM > To: KYWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com; CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname > > > Are there any BELL descendants on the list that are participating in > the Bell DNA Project? I notice that the project has grown > considerably, but I don't see any submissions from the Joseph Bell/ > Nancy Davenport line or the Randolph Co NC Lindsey Bell line. > Please contact me if you are a Bell researcher/descendant. I have a > theory I'd like to prove/disprove. > > Fay Clark > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE- > request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of > the message > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Email and AIM finally together. 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Eileen, I know what you mean. I can't afford it right now, either, or I'd offer to foot the bill. I could chip in a bit toward the cause, but I also need to weigh whether or not my own Bell line needs to do some testing and if I'll need to help pay for that. Let's see how much interest this will generate. If there's enough interest and a willing dna donor, we might be able to raise the funds to get our respective feet in the door. <g> Fay On Nov 24, 2007, at 6:20 PM, Eileen Mullins wrote: > I know of two male Bell descendants, but of course neither can > afford the > cost of DNA testing. And since I am retired the cost is also too > much for > my pocketbook. We are descendants of Nancy Davenport & Joseph Bell > thru > their sons William & James. > > Eileen Mullins > Tomorrow's Heirlooms > elmullins@insightbb.com > www.thceramics.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kywayne- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Fay Clark > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:19 PM > To: KYWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com; CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname > > Are there any BELL descendants on the list that are participating in > the Bell DNA Project? I notice that the project has grown > considerably, but I don't see any submissions from the Joseph Bell/ > Nancy Davenport line or the Randolph Co NC Lindsey Bell line. > Please contact me if you are a Bell researcher/descendant. I have a > theory I'd like to prove/disprove. > > Fay Clark > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Wendy, It sounds like your Bells may be a different line than the ones who settled in Wayne Co KY. E-town is about 45 minutes from where I live in Louisville, and the Nelson/Hardin/Grayson County area is a different migration route than the ones who arrived in Wayne County took. I also wonder if there might have been an illegitimacy somewhere along the way? I'm not unfamiliar with the Long surname, and it wouldn't be surprising to find Longs in the same area as the Bells. In fact, the Longs of Wayne County came from the same area of North Carolina as my particular Bell line, and to this day live in the same area as the Bells in Wayne & Clinton Counties. Do you have a particular lead that leads you to think there may be a connection to the Wayne County Bell lines? There was a Samuel Bell in the Madison County area of Kentucky very early (probably when it was still Kentucky County VA), and his proximity to my Clark lines has made me wonder if he might be connected to my Wayne County Bells, but I don't have anything but speculation at this point. I think my Bells may be related to the Stone Church Bells of Augusta Co VA, but if you had asked me about that possibility a few years ago, I'd have said, "No way." New information has come to light that makes DNA comparison much more desirable. Fay Clark On Nov 24, 2007, at 6:15 PM, wckrzyzanowski@aol.com wrote: > My Bell surname is a participant of the Bell DNA website, and the > only match we have gotten was one with a LONG surname. Our Bells > lived in Kentucky County, Virginia, Nelson/Hardin/Grayson Counties > in Kentucky. The main town was Elizabethtown, Kentucky.? Wendy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christine Bramstedt <ctbee@apci.net> > To: kywayne@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:32 am > Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname > > > > Hi Fay: I am a Bell descendant but cannot take the test of course > because > I'm a female and don't have the Bell name. I'm a Bell through John > S. Bell > who married Ruth Simpson. Is there proof of the Joseph Bell and Nancy > Davenport line? If I can add anything to the research let me > know. Chris > Bramstedt > > -----Original Message----- > From: kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Fay Clark > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:19 AM > To: KYWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com; CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname > > > Are there any BELL descendants on the list that are participating in > the Bell DNA Project? I notice that the project has grown > considerably, but I don't see any submissions from the Joseph Bell/ > Nancy Davenport line or the Randolph Co NC Lindsey Bell line. > Please contact me if you are a Bell researcher/descendant. I have a > theory I'd like to prove/disprove. > > Fay Clark > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE- > request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of > the message > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL > Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I know of two male Bell descendants, but of course neither can afford the cost of DNA testing. And since I am retired the cost is also too much for my pocketbook. We are descendants of Nancy Davenport & Joseph Bell thru their sons William & James. Eileen Mullins Tomorrow's Heirlooms elmullins@insightbb.com www.thceramics.com -----Original Message----- From: kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fay Clark Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:19 PM To: KYWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com; CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname Are there any BELL descendants on the list that are participating in the Bell DNA Project? I notice that the project has grown considerably, but I don't see any submissions from the Joseph Bell/ Nancy Davenport line or the Randolph Co NC Lindsey Bell line. Please contact me if you are a Bell researcher/descendant. I have a theory I'd like to prove/disprove. Fay Clark ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Bell surname is a participant of the Bell DNA website, and the only match we have gotten was one with a LONG surname. Our Bells lived in Kentucky County, Virginia, Nelson/Hardin/Grayson Counties in Kentucky. The main town was Elizabethtown, Kentucky.? Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Christine Bramstedt <ctbee@apci.net> To: kywayne@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:32 am Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname Hi Fay: I am a Bell descendant but cannot take the test of course because I'm a female and don't have the Bell name. I'm a Bell through John S. Bell who married Ruth Simpson. Is there proof of the Joseph Bell and Nancy Davenport line? If I can add anything to the research let me know. Chris Bramstedt -----Original Message----- From: kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Fay Clark Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:19 AM To: KYWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com; CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname Are there any BELL descendants on the list that are participating in the Bell DNA Project? I notice that the project has grown considerably, but I don't see any submissions from the Joseph Bell/ Nancy Davenport line or the Randolph Co NC Lindsey Bell line. Please contact me if you are a Bell researcher/descendant. I have a theory I'd like to prove/disprove. Fay Clark ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Are there any BELL descendants on the list that are participating in the Bell DNA Project? I notice that the project has grown considerably, but I don't see any submissions from the Joseph Bell/ Nancy Davenport line or the Randolph Co NC Lindsey Bell line. Please contact me if you are a Bell researcher/descendant. I have a theory I'd like to prove/disprove. Fay Clark

Hi Fay: I am a Bell descendant but cannot take the test of course because I'm a female and don't have the Bell name. I'm a Bell through John S. Bell who married Ruth Simpson. Is there proof of the Joseph Bell and Nancy Davenport line? If I can add anything to the research let me know. Chris Bramstedt -----Original Message----- From: kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Fay Clark Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:19 AM To: KYWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com; CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYWAYNE] BELL surname Are there any BELL descendants on the list that are participating in the Bell DNA Project? I notice that the project has grown considerably, but I don't see any submissions from the Joseph Bell/ Nancy Davenport line or the Randolph Co NC Lindsey Bell line. Please contact me if you are a Bell researcher/descendant. I have a theory I'd like to prove/disprove. Fay Clark ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message