Just got back from a Bertram reunion in Monticello, Wayne Co., KY. We went one day early so I could look in the Wm. Crenshaw Kennedy Jr. Wayne County Memorial Musem's genealogy library. (I recommend this added venue for Wayne County genealogy researchers.) My main research objective this trip was to look for the spouse of Nancy Elizabeth "Lizzie" BROWN, but I did not find anything. I am hoping someone on the list will know something that will lead me to more information about her. Lizzie Brown was born about December 1872 in southern Wayne Co., KY to Jane (Bertram) & Elijah Brown. I have not found a trace of her after the 1880 Wayne Co., KY census in which she was enumerated as Nancy E., age 8, in the home of her parents, yet I know from previous interviews with old timers that Lizzie married and reared a family. I think she may have relocated to McCreary, Whitley, or Pulaski counties in KY but this is just a hunch. She might just as well have gone with some of her siblings to Texas, or settled in nearby TN. I really have no definite leads. 1880 Wayne Co., KY Census (108th Enumeration District.): #149-151; BROWN, Elijah, 35, husband, farmer, TN, TN, TN; Jane, 33, wife, KY, KY, KY; Feriby E., 10, daughter; Nancy E., 8, dau; George W., 6, son; General M, 4, son, William F., 2, son. (Still next door to Jane's parents.) Her siblings were Ellen (aka Feriby E.) , George Washington, General Marion, William Fount, Prentiss, and Arlena Brown. Ellen Brown married Joe S. Jones. George W. married Martha Ellot Stinson. General Marion married Martha Catherine Martin, and 2nd Catherine Mae Martin. Prentiss died young. Arlena married William "Bill" Shoopman and 2nd Judge Dudley Sloan. If you have any information about Lizzie or any of the members of this family I would very much appreciate hearing from you. I will gladly share any data I have. Sincerely, Anna Bertram

Does anyone know if Rosemary Shields is still doing genealogy? Fay Clark

I heard she had passed away ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fay Clark" <gmcflc@gmail.com> To: <cumberland-river@rootsweb.com>; <kywayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:13 PM Subject: [KYWAYNE] Markham, Marcum genealogy > Does anyone know if Rosemary Shields is still doing genealogy? > > Fay Clark > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Adding a few more names and facts to the previous post: The wife of Dareth H. "D. H." Neal was Maud E. STEPHENS. Their known children, all born in McCreary County, were: Eula I. Neal, born Feb. 1, 1920 Harold E. Neal, born May 1, 1921 Kathleen Neal, born Nov. 17, 1923 Dannie H. Neal, born March 12, 1931 D. H. and Maud lived at Yamacraw and he was a coal miner. My #1 goal is to find the maiden name of Dareth's mother. I think she may have been a Brown from Wayne Co., Kentucky, but need proof that she was, or was not. My #2 goal is to find living relatives of this family if possible. All replies will be appreciated. Sincerely, Anna Bertram

I wish to prove or disprove that Nancy Elizabeth "Lizzie" Brown married Thomas G. Neal (or married someone else). Please contact me if you have any information to share. Lizzie was my husband's great aunt and we wish to make contact with her descendants. Lizzie Brown was born about Dec. 1872 in Wayne Co., KY to Jane Bertram & Elijah Brown. We know she lived to adulthood, married and had children, but no one in the family seems to remember the name of her husband. It looks like she may have married Thomas G. Neal based on census records, but I need proof one way or the other. The census records follow: 1880 Wayne Co., Kentucky Census (108th Enumeration District.): #149-151; BROWN, Elijah, 35, husband, farmer, TN, TN, TN; Jane, 33, wife, KY, KY, KY; Feriby E., 10, daughter; Nancy E., 8, dau; George W., 6, son; General M, 4, son, William F., 2, son. (Next door to Jane's parents.) I found a Lizzie NEAL on the 1900 Whitley Co., KY Census that I believe was Lizzie BROWN although the year of birth and place of birth don't entirely agree with what we know. The key factor is there is a niece in the household by the name of Della JONES, who may have been the daughter of Lizzie's sister, Ellen (BROWN) JONES (aka Mrs. Joe S. Jones of the Cumberland River Region also.) 1900 Whitley Co., Kentucky Census; East Pine Knot Precinct; S.D. 102; E.D. 133; Sheet 26-B; Page 13-B; June 11th; Line 60; Household #183: NEAL, Thomas G., head, white, male, born 1863, age 37, married 6 years; KY KY KY; Lizzie, wife, white, female, born Dec. 1873, age 28, married 6 years, 3 children born - 2 children still living, TN TN KY; Dareth H., son, Nov. 1894, age 5, KY KY TN; Rubie H., daughter, Oct. 1899, 7/12, KY KY TN; JONES, Della, niece, white, female, July 1888, 11, KY KY TN 1910 Pulaski Co., Kentucky; Magisterial District 3; Clifty Precinct, S.D. 11; E.D. 194; Sheet 5-B; Page 28-B; Roll 51; Book 1; April 29th; Line 90; Household and Visit #101-103: NEAL, T.G., head, male, white, age 48, married 1 time - married 16 years, born in KY, father born in VA, mother born in KY, farmer; Lizzie, wife, female, white, age 38, married 1 time - married 16 years, 6 children born - 5 children still living, TN TN KY; D.H., son, male, white, age 15, KY KY KY; Rubie, daughter, female, white, age 9, KY KY KY; John, son, age 7 (born about 1903), KY KY KY; Elsie, daughter, female, white, age 5, KY KY KY; Myrtle, daughter, female, white, age 1 1/12, KY KY KY I grew exhausted searching for this couple or their children in Kentucky or Tennessee in 1920, but believe I found one of ther sons in McCreary Co., KY on the 1920 Census. See below . . . 1920 McCreary Co., Kentucky Census; Yamacraw Precinct 17; S.D. 11; E.D. 171; Sheet ?; Devel Creek Road; Feb. 14th; Line 52; Household and Visitation #13-13: NEAL, D.H., head, age 25, married, KY KY TN, miner - coal mines; Maud, wife, age 17, married, KY KY KY; Grace, daughter, female, white, age 10 months, KY KY KY Another researcher once mentioned they thought Lizzie married a James LAWSON. (Also unproved!) Note: There was a Thomas NEAL and wife, Elizabeth, about the right ages to have been this couple on the 1920 Oldham Co., Kentucky Census but they do not appear to be the same ones. For one thing they are shown with a 23 year old son named William and that does not match the information we have on Thomas G. NEAL and wife, Lizzie. Thanks for your time and consideration! Anna Bertram

i am looking for information on HOLLARS. albert hollars was my grandfather he had 4 wives. i am a descent of his third wife kizzah,kazia,kizar,kizzie. they lived in and around wayne county in the late 1900. i have a copy of his will ad my father Harvey is mentioned in it. it was written in dec.1894 proven in july 1907. i do not know where he died. the last info i have on him is the 1900 census liberty pct. is that liberty precinct? in wayne Co i found kizzie widowed in 1920 living in Buncomb Pulaski co Ky. where is buncomb? is it a town ? i cannot find it. the last name is mispelled it says Hollan. she was living wit her son Guster. if anyone knows of them please let me know. my nic is Mo

Hello Sandy, You may already have these things. I am not related but took a little time to run a couple of searches for you. At the bottom of each one I included the URL where it was found. Maybe you'll find some clues here that will assist you with your search: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace David SHORES Self M Male W 45 KY Farmer KY KY Anne SHORES Wife M Female W 44 KY Keeping House NC KY William SHORES Son S Male W 21 KY Farm Laborer KY KY Mathew SHORES Son S Male W 19 KY Farm Laborer KY KY Elisabeth SHORES Dau S Female W 16 KY KY KY Duprey SHORES Son S Male W 14 KY KY KY Nancy M. SHORES Dau S Female W 9 KY KY KY Louisa J. SHORES Dau S Female W 7 KY KY KY John SHORES Son S Male W 4 KY KY KY Joseph SHORES Son S Male W 23 KY Farm Laborer KY KY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Sinking, Wayne, Kentucky Family History Library Film 1254445 NA Film Number T9-0445 Page Number 558B ------------------------------------------------------------------- Individual Record FamilySearch™ Pedigree Resource File Search Results -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Shores Compact Disc #137 Pin #220096 Pedigree Sex: M -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s) Birth: Oct 1840 Kentucky, USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage(s) Spouse: Anne Mathis Disc #137 Pin #220095 Marriage: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Notes and Sources Notes: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 137 Sources: None -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submitter Paul & Patricia SMITH 710 Crosby Lane Red Bluff, California 96080 http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------- David SHORE Compact Disc #112 Pin #422214 Pedigree Sex: M -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s) Birth: 1764 Wilkes County, North Carolina Death: 28 Feb 1815 Wayne Co., Kentucky -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents Father: Reuben SHORES Disc #112 Pin #423889 Mother: Susannah PIPES or CARTER Disc #112 Pin #423963 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage(s) Spouse: Mary UNKNOWN Disc #112 Pin #424651 Marriage: Probably Tennessee Spouse: Lucy ROUSSEAU Disc #112 Pin #423888 Marriage: 18 Sep 1791 Wilkes Co, North Carolina -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Notes and Sources Notes: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 112 Sources: None -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submitter Jean Shore SORENSEN 87 Skunk Hollow Garden Valley, Idaho 83622 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Anna Matthews Sex: F Birth: ABT 1837 in Kentucky Birth: ABT 1837 Father: Merritt Bergen Mathis\ Matthews b: ABT 1816 in North Carolina Mother: Elizabeth Vaughn b: ABT 1816 in Wayne County, KY Father: Merritt Bergen Mathis\ Matthews b: ABT 1816 in North Carolina Mother: Elizabeth Vaughn b: 1816 in Wayne County, Ky Marriage 1 David Shores b: OCT 1840 in Kentucky Married: in Wayne County, KY Children Matthew Shores b: 9 SEP 1861 in Wayne County, KY Laura E. Shores b: ABT 1863 Duype Shores b: ABT 1865 in Wayne County, KY James G. Shores b: ABT 1867 in Wayne County, KY John B. Shores b: FEB 1876 in Crawford County, AK Marriage 2 David Troxell b: 20 OCT 1790 in Augusta County, VA Married: 28 JAN 1858 in Wayne County, Ky Children Joseph Littleton Matthews b: APR 1857 William Perry Troxell b: 20 MAY 1859 in Wayne Co. KY http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=whispers&id=I02253 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good Luck Paulette Williams IBSSG I hear ethereal whispers, persuasive, soft and still,"Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will ?" Read The Patriot It's Right -- It's Free http://PatriotPost.US/subscribe/ > From: sandysho@intellex.com > To: kywayne@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:08:02 -0500 > Subject: [KYWAYNE] SHORES > > I am looking for any info on Annie/Anna SHORES > married to David SHORES. I have them living in Wayne county in the 1880 > census. Then no available 1890 census. In 1900 I have David SHORES living in > Crawford county ARKANSAS as a widower. > I have not located siblings or parents of David SHORES born abt. 1835 in > Wayne county Kentucky. If anyone knows where Annie SHORES died (Kentucky or > Arkansas?) or where she is buried. Or any info on David I would be grateful. > Thank you > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_052008

Do you love a puzzle? Here is a good one . . . I'm currently working on the family of Daniel Matthews (Mathews, Mathis) and Nancy ________, his wife. They were on the 1840 and 1850 Wayne Co., KY Census, and on the 1860 Clinton Co., Kentucky Census. Some of their children were in various households in Clinton Co., KY in 1870. They were frequently living near the Dicken family, so there could be a familial connection between the Matthews and Dicken families. My main interest is because I believe their daughter, Angeline Matthews, is the one who married William Malone. A user submitted World Family Tree on Ancestry.com shows her as Angeline Brown, daughter of Eli and Sarah Brown. I believe this is incorrect. I am working on proof. If anyone is interested in this family or has additional information I would love to hear from you. I have lost touch with Michelle Bowles who was also working on this about 5 years ago. Also, puzzle #2 . . . the Clinton Co., KY cemetery book by Gary Norris lists Mary W. Malone Hoover and her husband, James M. Hoover, in the Shelton Cemetery in Clinton Co., Kentucky. The death dates listed are 24 Jan 1941 for Mary and 12 Apr 1943 for James. I have not been able to locate either one on the Social Security Death Index or the Kentucky Death Index. They may have died in another state but I don't have any clues. Mary W. Malone was the grandaughter of Daniel and Nancy ____ Matthews, and the daughter of the one I believe was Angeline Matthews. Again, I will welcome hearing from anyone with an interest or additional information on this family. Descendants of Daniel Matthews Generation No. 1 1. DANIEL1 MATTHEWS1 was born Abt. 1814 in North Carolina or Tennessee, and died Bet. 1860 - 1870 in Clinton Co., Kentucky?. He married NANCY (MATTHEWS)1 Abt. 1840. She was born Abt. 1824 in Tennessee, and died Unknown in Clinton Co., Kentucky?. Children of DANIEL MATTHEWS and NANCY (MATTHEWS) are: i. MARY A.2 MATTHEWS, b. Abt. 1842, Wayne Co., Kentucky2. ii. MILLLEY E. MATTHEWS, b. Abt. 1844, Wayne Co., Kentucky3. 2. iii. ANGELINE MATTHEWS, b. Bet. 1845 - 1850, Wayne Co., Kentucky; d. 30 Sep 1928, Clinton Co., Kentucky. iv. PHEBE C. MATTHEWS, b. Abt. 1846, Wayne Co., Kentucky4. v. WILLIAM HARRISON MATTHEWS5, b. Abt. 1848, Wayne Co., Kentucky6. vi. SINA A. MATTHEWS, b. Abt. 1851, Kentucky. vii. ELIZABETH MATTHEWS, b. Abt. 1853, Kentucky. viii. JAMES A. MATTHEWS, b. Abt. 1856, Kentucky. ix. EMARILLA MATTHEWS, b. Abt. 1858, Kentucky. Generation No. 2 2. ANGELINE2 MATTHEWS (DANIEL1)7 was born Bet. 1845 - 1850 in Wayne Co., Kentucky8, and died 30 Sep 1928 in Clinton Co., Kentucky9. She married WILLIAM MALONE10 Abt. 1872 in KY or TN, son of JOHN MALONE and DICY WESTON. He was born Abt. 1853 in Clinton Co., Kentucky, and died Bef. 22 Jun 1880 in Clinton Co., Kentucky?. Children of ANGELINE MATTHEWS and WILLIAM MALONE are: i. NANCY3 MALONE, b. 1872, Cumberland City, Clinton, Kentucky; d. Unknown. 3. ii. MARY W. MALONE, b. 16 Feb 1873, Cumberland City, Clinton, Kentucky; d. 24 Jan 1941, Clinton Co., Kentucky?. Generation No. 3 3. MARY W.3 MALONE (ANGELINE2 MATTHEWS, DANIEL1) was born 16 Feb 1873 in Cumberland City, Clinton, Kentucky, and died 24 Jan 1941 in Clinton Co., Kentucky?11. She married JAMES M. HOOVER12 04 Mar 1892 in Clinton Co., Kentucky13. He was born 28 Jan 1871 in Clinton Co., Kentucky, and died 12 Apr 1943 in Clinton Co., Kentucky?14. Children of MARY MALONE and JAMES HOOVER are: i. CHARLIE E.4 HOOVER, b. Jan 1893, Clinton Co., Kentucky. ii. JOHNIE E. HOOVER, b. Dec 1895, Piney Woods, Clinton, Kentucky. iii. CHESTER R. HOOVER, b. Abt. 1902, Clinton Co., Kentucky. iv. DELMAR W. HOOVER, b. Abt. 1905, Clinton Co., Kentucky. v. ANTHA M. HOOVER15, b. 05 Aug 1910, Clinton Co., Kentucky; d. 14 May 1938, Narvel, Clinton, Kentucky16; m. (1) BILL SUTTON, 11 Jan 1926, Clinton Co., Kentucky17; m. (2) HENRY CLAY SHELTON, 29 Dec 1936, Clinton Co., Kentucky18; b. 25 Oct 1883, Clinton Co., Kentucky; d. 22 May 1951, Clinton Co., Kentucky. vi. CECIL W. HOOVER, b. 21 Jun 1912, Clinton Co., Kentucky19. vii. EVA M. HOOVER, b. Abt. 1918, Clinton Co., Kentucky. Endnotes 1. U.S. Federal Census, 1860 Clinton Co., Kentucky; Seventy Six; Page 72; Line 9; Household and Visit #506-506. 2. U.S. Federal Census, 1840 Wayne Co., Kentucky; Page 168: MATHIS, Daniel 00001-0001 1 male 20 to 30, born 1810 to 1820 1 female 15 to 20, born 1820 to 1825) (Note: Mathis is an alternate spelling of the Matthews name, and the age categories on the 1840 Wayne Co., Kentucky census are consistent with the ages for Daniel and Nancy on the 1850 Wayne Co., Kentucky Census; this means their children listed on the 1850 census were probably born in Wayne Co., Kentucky. By 1860 they had migrated across the border into adjacent Clinton Co., Kentucky.) 1850 Wayne Co., Kentucky Census; Division 1; Page 323-B; Sept. 6th; Line 30; Household and Visit # 582-582: MATTHEWS, Daniel, age 35 (born about 1815), male, farmer, owns real estate worth $100, born in Tennessee, cannot read or write; Nancy, age 27 (born about 1823), female, TN, cannot read or write; Mary A., age 8, female, KY, attended school within the year; Milley, age 6, female, KY, attended school within the year; Angeline, age 5 (born about 1845), born in Kentucky; Phebe, age 4, female, KY; Harrison, age 2, KY. 3. Ancestry.com, U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900, 1840 Wayne Co., Kentucky; Page 168: MATHIS, Daniel 00001-0001 1 male 20 to 30, born 1810 to 1820 1 female 15 to 20, born 1820 to 1825) (Note: Mathis is an alternate spelling of the Matthews name, and the age categories on the 1840 Wayne Co., Kentucky census are consistent with the ages for Daniel and Nancy on the 1850 Wayne Co., Kentucky Census; this means their children listed on the 1850 census were probably born in Wayne Co., Kentucky. By 1860 they had migrated across the border into adjacent Clinton Co., Kentucky.) 1850 Wayne Co., Kentucky Census; Division 1; Page 323-B; Sept. 6th; Line 30; Household and Visit # 582-582: MATTHEWS, Daniel, age 35 (born about 1815), male, farmer, owns real estate worth $100, born in Tennessee, cannot read or write; Nancy, age 27 (born about 1823), female, TN, cannot read or write; Mary A., age 8, female, KY, attended school within the year; Milley, age 6, female, KY, attended school within the year; Angeline, age 5 (born about 1845), born in Kentucky; Phebe, age 4, female, KY; Harrison, age 2, KY. 4. U.S. Federal Census, 1840 Wayne Co., Kentucky; Page 168: MATHIS, Daniel 00001-0001 1 male 20 to 30, born 1810 to 1820 1 female 15 to 20, born 1820 to 1825) (Note: Mathis is an alternate spelling of the Matthews name, and the age categories on the 1840 Wayne Co., Kentucky census are consistent with the ages for Daniel and Nancy on the 1850 Wayne Co., Kentucky Census; this means their children listed on the 1850 census were probably born in Wayne Co., Kentucky. By 1860 they had migrated across the border into adjacent Clinton Co., Kentucky.) 1850 Wayne Co., Kentucky Census; Division 1; Page 323-B; Sept. 6th; Line 30; Household and Visit # 582-582: MATTHEWS, Daniel, age 35 (born about 1815), male, farmer, owns real estate worth $100, born in Tennessee, cannot read or write; Nancy, age 27 (born about 1823), female, TN, cannot read or write; Mary A., age 8, female, KY, attended school within the year; Milley, age 6, female, KY, attended school within the year; Angeline, age 5 (born about 1845), born in Kentucky; Phebe, age 4, female, KY; Harrison, age 2, KY. 5. U.S. Federal Census, He was listed as Harrison, age 2, born in Kentucky, in his parents' home in Wayne Co., KY in 1850, and as William H., age 11, born in KY , in his parents' home on the 1860 Clinton Co., KY Census. . 6. U.S. Federal Census, 1840 Wayne Co., Kentucky; Page 168: MATHIS, Daniel 00001-0001 1 male 20 to 30, born 1810 to 1820 1 female 15 to 20, born 1820 to 1825) (Note: Mathis is an alternate spelling of the Matthews name, and the age categories on the 1840 Wayne Co., Kentucky census are consistent with the ages for Daniel and Nancy on the 1850 Wayne Co., Kentucky Census; this means their children listed on the 1850 census were probably born in Wayne Co., Kentucky. By 1860 they had migrated across the border into adjacent Clinton Co., Kentucky.) 1850 Wayne Co., Kentucky Census; Division 1; Page 323-B; Sept. 6th; Line 30; Household and Visit # 582-582: MATTHEWS, Daniel, age 35 (born about 1815), male, farmer, owns real estate worth $100, born in Tennessee, cannot read or write; Nancy, age 27 (born about 1823), female, TN, cannot read or write; Mary A., age 8, female, KY, attended school within the year; Milley, age 6, female, KY, attended school within the year; Angeline, age 5 (born about 1845), born in Kentucky; Phebe, age 4, female, KY; Harrison, age 2, KY. 7. U.S. Federal Census, 1860 Clinton Co., Kentucky Census; Seventy Six; Written Page 72; July 11th; Line 9; Household and Visit #506-506: MATTHEWS, Daniel, age 46, male, farmer, owns no real estate but own personal property worth $50, born inNorth Carolina, cannot read or write; Nancy, age 36, female, house work, born in Tennesssee, cannot read or write; Polly Ann, age 19, domestic, TN, cannot read or write; Milla E., age 17, female, KY; Angeline, age 15 (born about 1845), female, domestic, KY; Phoeba C., age 13, female, KY; Wm. H., age 11, male, KY; Sina A., age 9, female, KY; Elizabeth, age 7, female, KY; James A., age 4, male, KY; Emarilla, age 2, female, KY (All the children from Angeline through James A. are listed as having attened school within the year) NOTE from Anna Bertram: The Daniel Matthews family was on Page 72 in the Seventy Six community, and the Dicy Malone family was in the same community on Page 88. 8. U.S. Federal Census, 1840 Wayne Co., Kentucky; Page 168: MATHIS, Daniel 00001-0001 1 male 20 to 30, born 1810 to 1820 1 female 15 to 20, born 1820 to 1825) (Note: Mathis is an alternate spelling of the Matthews name, and the age categories on the 1840 Wayne Co., Kentucky census are consistent with the ages for Daniel and Nancy on the 1850 Wayne Co., Kentucky Census; this means their children listed on the 1850 census were probably born in Wayne Co., Kentucky. By 1860 they had migrated across the border into adjacent Clinton Co., Kentucky.) 1850 Wayne Co., Kentucky Census; Division 1; Page 323-B; Sept. 6th; Line 30; Household and Visit # 582-582: MATTHEWS, Daniel, age 35 (born about 1815), male, farmer, owns real estate worth $100, born in Tennessee, cannot read or write; Nancy, age 27 (born about 1823), female, TN, cannot read or write; Mary A., age 8, female, KY, attended school within the year; Milley, age 6, female, KY, attended school within the year; Angeline, age 5 (born about 1845), born in Kentucky; Phebe, age 4, female, KY; Harrison, age 2, KY. 9. Kentucky Death Index, 1911-2000, Name: Angeline Malone Death Date: 30 Sep 1928 Death Place: Clinton Age: 085 Volume: 44 Certificate: 21858 (Note from Anna Beertram: I could order this certificate for $45.00 from Ancestry.com) . 10. Ancestry.com, One World Tree (sm), Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., n.d., Online publication - Ancestry.com. OneWorldTree [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc. 11. ROCKS OF AGES; Gary Denton Norris; 1999 (Cemeteries of Clinton Co., KY), Page 179, Unfortunately I have not been able to verify the dates of death for James M. Hoover or his wife, Mary W. (Malone) Hoover, on the Social Security Death Index or the Kentucky Death Index. They are believed to be buried in the Shelton Cemetery in Clinton Co., Kentucky. 12. U.S. Federal Census, 1920 Clinton Co., Kentucky; Prcinct 5 - Piney Woods; SD 11; ED 59; Sheet 12-B; January 27th; Line 65; Household and Visit # 225-230: HOOVER, James M., head, male, white, age 48, married, farmer - general farm (Middle initial M.). 13. ClINTON COUNTY, KENTUCKY MARRIAGE RECORDS 1859-2001; Clinton Co., KY Historical Society 2003, Page 33, "Hoover, James Malone, Mary W. Woodson, W.H. (Bondsman) March 4, 1892 Book 8, Page 305." 14. ROCKS OF AGES; Gary Denton Norris; 1999 (Cemeteries of Clinton Co., KY), Page 179, Unfortunately I have not been able to verify the dates of death for James M. Hoover or his wife, Mary W. (Malone) Hoover, on the Social Security Death Index or the Kentucky Death Index. They are believed to be buried in the Shelton Cemetery in Clinton Co., Kentucky. 15. ROCKS OF AGES; Gary Denton Norris; 1999 (Cemeteries of Clinton Co., KY), Page 303, Middle initial M may be on her tombstone. 16. Ancestry.com, Kentucky Death Records, 1852-1953, Name: Antha Shelton [Antha Hoover] Death Date: 14 May 1938 Death Location: Clinton Residence Location: Clinton Age: 27 Gender: Female Ethnicity: White Birth Date: 5 Aug 1910 Birth Location: Clinton, Kentucky Spouse's Name: Clay Shelton Father's Name: Jim Hoover Father's Birth Location: Kentucky Mother's Name: Mary Malone Mother's Birth Location: Kentucky . 17. ClINTON COUNTY, KENTUCKY MARRIAGE RECORDS 1859-2001; Clinton Co., KY Historical Society 2003, page 115. 18. ClINTON COUNTY, KENTUCKY MARRIAGE RECORDS 1859-2001; Clinton Co., KY Historical Society 2003, Page 193 . 19. Kentucky Birth Index 1911 - 1999, Name: Cecil W Hoover Date of Birth: 21 Jun 1912 County: Clinton Mother's Name: Mary Hover Volume Number: 71 Certificate Number: 28302 Volume Year: 1912 .

Lafayette Journal & Courier ATTICA -- Dolly Dixon Burk, 82, of Attica, died Thursday, May 1, 2008, at The Waters of Williamsport Health Care. Born in Sterns, Ky., on Nov. 26, 1925, she was the daughter of the late George and Dora Gregory Dixon. She married William Winchester in 1941; they later divorced. She married Thomas Burk in 1968, and he died in 1987. Mrs. Burk was a service worker at Hawkins Graduate House at Purdue University from 1974 until she retired in 1996. She was a member of the Eagles in Lafayette and enjoyed gambling, fishing and crocheting. Surviving are two sons, David Winchester and Rick Winchester, both of Attica; and three daughters, Mary "Liz" Bradbury (husband: Kenny) and Judy Martin (husband: Bill), both of Attica, and Janice Meece (husband: Doug) of Oxford. Visitation one hour prior to the 2 p.m. service on Wednesday, May 7, 2008, at Hippensteel Funeral Home, Chaplain Don Williams officiating. Interment Tippecanoe Memory Gardens. Ten grandchildren and 13 great-grandchildren also survive. Preceded in death by 3 brothers and 2 sisters. She enjoyed being with her family. Memorial contributions may be made to the American Lung Association. Hippensteel Funeral Home entrusted with care. Share memories and condolences online at www.hippensteelfuneralhome.com. Eileen Mullins Tomorrow's Heirlooms elmullins@comcast.net www.thceramics.com

I am looking for any info on Annie/Anna SHORES married to David SHORES. I have them living in Wayne county in the 1880 census. Then no available 1890 census. In 1900 I have David SHORES living in Crawford county ARKANSAS as a widower. I have not located siblings or parents of David SHORES born abt. 1835 in Wayne county Kentucky. If anyone knows where Annie SHORES died (Kentucky or Arkansas?) or where she is buried. Or any info on David I would be grateful. Thank you

Hi all. I have scanned, and uploaded another document to my webpage. This is an 1885 Wayne County equity case regarding George B. Davis vs Daniel Hancock. It is several pages, and is about a land dispute. This was found while researching at the KY State Archives earlier this week on behalf of a client. With her permission, I have scanned it and uploaded it to my webpage in case it may be of help to others. To view the document, go to my webpage at www.digginbones.com . Click the "Records on Site" link, on the left side of the page. You will see links on that page to several documents. Click the "KY-Wayne County - 1885 Equity Case - Davis vs Hancock" link to view the complete equity case. Hope it is of help to some. Rex Bertram 132 S. Butler St. Redkey, IN 47373 Many Free Genealogy Lookups www.digginbones.com

Hi Rex, That was nice of you to do that for the Smith line, while you were researching did you happen to see any thing on the Davenports/Devenports of Wayne Co. My husband's 3rd g-grandparents were John and Nancy(Burnett)Davenport. We live in Wyoming and it is a long way back to Kentucky but,some day we would sure love to come back and spend some time and just do family research. Thank you and have a Wonderful Day, Bettie and Duane Davenport > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:17:20 -0500> From: researcher@digginbones.com> To: KYWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [KYWAYNE] George Smith> > Hi all. I just returned from spending 2 days researching at the KY State> Archives in KY. In searching the Cumberland County court cases, I came> accross an 1823 divorce of George and Mary Smith, who had married in Roane> County, NC, per the divorce case. I am not connected to these folks; but> know how difficult it is to research such a common surname. For that> reason, I decided to get a copy of the divorce case, and place it on my> webpage, in hopes that it might help those researching the early Wayne> County Smith's.> > To view the complete record, go to my webpage at www.digginbones.com .> Click the "Records on Site" link on the left side of the page. You will> find the link to the Divorce on that page.> > Rex Bertram> 132 S. Butler St.> Redkey, IN 47373> Many Free Genealogy Lookups> www.digginbones.com> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Make i'm yours.  Create a custom banner to support your cause. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Contribute/Default.aspx?source=TXT_TAGHM_MSN_Make_IM_Yours

Hi all. I just returned from spending 2 days researching at the KY State Archives in KY. In searching the Cumberland County court cases, I came accross an 1823 divorce of George and Mary Smith, who had married in Roane County, NC, per the divorce case. I am not connected to these folks; but know how difficult it is to research such a common surname. For that reason, I decided to get a copy of the divorce case, and place it on my webpage, in hopes that it might help those researching the early Wayne County Smith's. To view the complete record, go to my webpage at www.digginbones.com . Click the "Records on Site" link on the left side of the page. You will find the link to the Divorce on that page. Rex Bertram 132 S. Butler St. Redkey, IN 47373 Many Free Genealogy Lookups www.digginbones.com

Thank you so much for checking the books for me. I really appreciate it - I will take your advise and try looking in Pulaski County. I had not thought of checking there. I am not very familiar with distances in your state. Hopefully that will be fruitful. Thank you again, I really appreciate it. Alberta Jacobsen **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

yes there is a list of the ones that have monuments on Wayne co kygenweb , it is listed under the cemetery project , in the powersburg section ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Tuggle" <Gary.Tuggle@livetv.net> To: <kywayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BUTRAM, BRADLEY, MARSH - Workdays for Bradley Cemetery,Sparta, Tennessee > Is there a listing of all the folks buried > in the Pleasant Hill Baptist Church Cemetery.....? > I am still unable to locate the burial location of > Henry Tuggle married to Martha Brammer (both around 1856) > which lived most of their lives in Wayne County. > > --Gary Tuggle-- > > -----Original Message----- > From: kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Anna L Bertram > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:43 PM > To: jolomac@coastalnet.com; kywayne@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BUTRAM, BRADLEY, MARSH - Workdays for Bradley > Cemetery,Sparta, Tennessee > > Johnnie, > > I'll be very happy to help you and to share anything I have. If you are > related by birth or marriage to the Wayne County, KY Bertram family, you > are also related to the Revolutionary War soldier, William Butram, who > is buried in the Bradley Cemetery in White Co., TN. He was the father > of the William Bertram who married Nancy Stinson. William Bertram and > Nancy Stinson are buried in Wayne County, KY at Sunnybrook in the > cemetery at Pleasant Hill Baptist Church. They are considered to be "The > Parents of the Wayne County Bertrams." > > Looking forward to hearing from you again. > > Sincerely, > Anna Bertram > > Encrypted email address follows . . . everyone knows the symbols for at > and dot, but this format slows down the spammers. > > abertram at dtccom dot net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jolomac@coastalnet.com > > > Hello Anna, > > Thank you for your post on the Bertram etc research meeting. I would > like > to ask you a few questions on the Bertram families as they are married > into > mine. Could you help me and would you rather email me privately. > Mine > are from Wayne , Whitley & McCreary Co KY. I don't have them > connected to > the William Bertram described below. > > Thank you so much. > Johnnie McLaughlin > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: > 4/14/2008 9:26 AM > >

Gary, I checked the book, Pleasant Hill Baptist Church, by Irene Atwood Byrer. It has a listing of those buried in the cemetery up to about 1975. There is no marked grave for Henry or Martha Tuggle at Pleasant Hill (Sunnybrook, Wayne County, Kentucky). Sorry! Some time back you sent me the following information: Possible date of death per Gary Tuggle: . . . " "he "finished his course" July 4th, 1856, there at Pleasant Point" " (Pleasant Point is in Pulaski Co., Kentucky.) Have you checked cemeteries in Pulaski County? Is there one there at Pleasant Point? Good luck! Anna Bertram ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Tuggle Is there a listing of all the folks buried in the Pleasant Hill Baptist Church Cemetery.....? I am still unable to locate the burial location of Henry Tuggle married to Martha Brammer (both around 1856) which lived most of their lives in Wayne County.

Is there a listing of all the folks buried in the Pleasant Hill Baptist Church Cemetery.....? I am still unable to locate the burial location of Henry Tuggle married to Martha Brammer (both around 1856) which lived most of their lives in Wayne County. --Gary Tuggle-- -----Original Message----- From: kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anna L Bertram Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:43 PM To: jolomac@coastalnet.com; kywayne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] BUTRAM, BRADLEY, MARSH - Workdays for Bradley Cemetery,Sparta, Tennessee Johnnie, I'll be very happy to help you and to share anything I have. If you are related by birth or marriage to the Wayne County, KY Bertram family, you are also related to the Revolutionary War soldier, William Butram, who is buried in the Bradley Cemetery in White Co., TN. He was the father of the William Bertram who married Nancy Stinson. William Bertram and Nancy Stinson are buried in Wayne County, KY at Sunnybrook in the cemetery at Pleasant Hill Baptist Church. They are considered to be "The Parents of the Wayne County Bertrams." Looking forward to hearing from you again. Sincerely, Anna Bertram Encrypted email address follows . . . everyone knows the symbols for at and dot, but this format slows down the spammers. abertram at dtccom dot net ----- Original Message ----- From: jolomac@coastalnet.com Hello Anna, Thank you for your post on the Bertram etc research meeting. I would like to ask you a few questions on the Bertram families as they are married into mine. Could you help me and would you rather email me privately. Mine are from Wayne , Whitley & McCreary Co KY. I don't have them connected to the William Bertram described below. Thank you so much. Johnnie McLaughlin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Anna, Thank you for your post on the Bertram etc research meeting. I would like to ask you a few questions on the Bertram families as they are married into mine. Could you help me and would you rather email me privately. Mine are from Wayne , Whitley & McCreary Co KY. I don't have them connected to the William Bertram described below. Thank you so much. Johnnie McLaughlin > [Original Message] > From: Anna L Bertram <abertram@dtccom.net> > To: <kywayne@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/16/2008 1:25:58 AM > Subject: [KYWAYNE] BUTRAM, BRADLEY, MARSH - Workdays for Bradley Cemetery,Sparta, Tennessee > > Greetings to All Buttram (Buttrum, Butram, Butrum, Bertram, etc.), Bradley, and Marsh Descendants and Researchers! > > Dates have been set for our Spring and Fall 2008 workdays at the Richard Bradley Cemetery near Sparta, White County, Tennessee. Please mark the dates on your calendars now and plan to attend if you possibly can. The dates are Sat., May 10th and Sat., Nov. 1st. Walter Buttrum of Sparta will arrange to have the gate unlocked so we can drive our trucks and SUVs into the field near the cemetery. Fount and I will try to be there both days by 9:30 AM from our home near Woodbury in Cannon County. > > We appreciate everyone who has helped in the past with "sweat equity", financial contributions, and best wishes. Attendance at the workdays is dwindling. Several interested persons are getting older or are no longer with us. In order to preserve this wonderful historical cemetery for our children, grandchildren, and their children, we need to get them involved in helping us take care of it too. > > For those new to this cemetery I will give a brief history. In 1838 landowner Richard Bradley established the cemetery when he buried his first wife, Minty Bradley. Other Bradley family members are buried here also in unusual "tent" or "comb graves" with sandstone markers that mostly resemble arrowheads. (Richard Bradley's grave has rounded markers instead on his tent grave, and no one seems to know why.) I have been told that the graves marked only with fieldstones that are directly behind the Richard Bradley family are those of their slaves. One beloved little boy, designated only as Black Boy Crockett, is buried next to his mistress, Sally Goodbread Bradley, as she requested. Fieldstones in front of the family are those of members of the community. Also in this cemetery is the grave of William Butram (II), a soldier of the American Revolution. > > William Butram was born July 15,1759 in Rowan Co., North Carolina. As a young man he fought in the American Revolution against the British, on the side of the Patriots. After the war he returned to his wife (Sarah Patterson) and children in Rowan County, but after their home burned they relocated to Iredell County, North Carolina. Later he moved to Lee County, Virginia for a short while, then on to Wayne County, Kentucky, where some of his children had already migrated. He was quite elderly when he moved for the last time to White County, Tennessee. We don't know exactly why he is buried in the Bradley Cemetery other than friendship with Richard Bradley who performed the marriages of some of William's grandchildren in White County. My husband is a third great-grandson of William Butram. > > In the early 1960s the Cookeville Chapter of the D.A.R. had a U.S. Military Service marker placed on William Butram's grave. The original marker has since been lost. The marker the DAR placed gives an incorrect year of death for William Butram because at the time they ordered it the grave had not yet been located by descendant Marshall Bertram, an Associate Professor of History at TN Tech. It is our plan to place a footstone on the grave with the correct date of death -- November 10, 1853. > > While William Butram lived in Wayne Co., Kentucky he was a neighbor to Henry Marsh, another Revolutionary War soldier. Henry and his family moved to White County, Tennessee a short time before William Butram and his daughter, Katy, moved there also. Again the two old soldiers were neighbors. It is known that Henry Marsh was buried somewhere in or near the Bradley Cemetery so it is only fitting that his descendants erected a US Military Marker for him a few years ago, next to his friend, William Butram. > > A lot more history and many colorful stories are shared at all these workday gatherings. They are a pilgrimage to honor our ancestors but they are an investment in the future. We work but we have fun and leave feeling proud of what we have accomplished. If you live near enough to attend and are physically able, please join us. Bring yard tools, including small push mowers, if you have them. Wear work gloves, sturdy clothes and boots. Bring your drinking water and snacks. > > Fount and I will go to eat afterwards, dirt and all. at Yanni's Restaurant off Brockman Way in Sparta. Everyone is welcome to join us. > > Please contact us if you have questions or need directions to the cemetery. We are hoping for a big turnout on both dates! Sincerely, > > Anna Bertram > (Mrs. Fount W. Bertram) > Encoded email address follows: > > abertram at dtccom dot net > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Johnnie, I'll be very happy to help you and to share anything I have. If you are related by birth or marriage to the Wayne County, KY Bertram family, you are also related to the Revolutionary War soldier, William Butram, who is buried in the Bradley Cemetery in White Co., TN. He was the father of the William Bertram who married Nancy Stinson. William Bertram and Nancy Stinson are buried in Wayne County, KY at Sunnybrook in the cemetery at Pleasant Hill Baptist Church. They are considered to be "The Parents of the Wayne County Bertrams." Looking forward to hearing from you again. Sincerely, Anna Bertram Encrypted email address follows . . . everyone knows the symbols for at and dot, but this format slows down the spammers. abertram at dtccom dot net ----- Original Message ----- From: jolomac@coastalnet.com Hello Anna, Thank you for your post on the Bertram etc research meeting. I would like to ask you a few questions on the Bertram families as they are married into mine. Could you help me and would you rather email me privately. Mine are from Wayne , Whitley & McCreary Co KY. I don't have them connected to the William Bertram described below. Thank you so much. Johnnie McLaughlin