Lafayette, IN Journal & Courier September 17, 2008 Clara E. Kidd, 66 WILLIAMSPORT -- Clara E. Burnett Kidd, 66, of Williamsport, died at 2:30 a.m. Tuesday, Sept. 16, 2008, at Seton Specialty Hospital, Lafayette. She was born on Sept. 6, 1942, in Wayne County, Ky., to the late William Loftus and Opal Lee Taylor Burnett. She was raised in Kentucky, where she attended Parmleysville School. On March 6, 1959, she married Roger Kidd in Monticello, Ky. He survives. Mrs. Kidd was a homemaker. She was a member of the Wabash Valley Bible Baptist Church in Williamsport. She enjoyed crocheting, reading and quilting. Surviving besides her husband are a son, Howard Kidd (wife: Kathy) of Williamsport; a daughter, Mary Pauline Brown (husband: Jeff) of Williamsport; and four brothers, Cleo Burnett of Barrier, Ky., Cecil Burnett of Russell Springs, Ky., Carl Burnett of Griffin, Ky., and Conley Burnett of Monticello, Ky. Friends may call 5-8 p.m. Thursday with services 11 a.m. Friday at the Maus Funeral Home, Attica, the Rev. John T. Adams officiating. Interment will follow in the Fowler Cemetery, Fowler. Also surviving are 2 grandsons, Jacob Allen and William Joseph Brown, both of Williamsport. Memorial contributions are preferred to the Adult Learning Center, Lafayette, IN. Online condolences may be sent to www.mausfuneralhome.com. Eileen Mullins Tomorrow's Heirlooms elmullins@comcast.net www.thceramics.com

Donna, I hope we can help each other. I did look for the parents of Marion Shelton of Wayne Co., KY. I believe his full name was Francis Marion Shelton as many boys were named in honor of Francis Marion, the "Swamp Fox", a famous soldier in the Revolutionary War. If so, I found him on census with a grown man and woman who appear to have been his parents. 1870 Wayne Co., Kentucky; Slickford - Magisterial District #3; Post Office Monticello; Stamped Page 53-A; June 13th; Line 30; Household and Visit #5-5: SHELTON, John, age 44 (born about 1826) , male, white, farmer, born in KY; Elisabeth, age 27, female, white, keeps house, born in South Carolina; Henry E., age 14, farm laborer, born in KY; Francis M., age 12, male white, laborer, born in KY; Celina S., age 10, female, white, at home, KY; Sarah L. or S., age 8, KY; Mary J., age 4, KY; Lunda A., age 2, female, white, KY 1880 Wayne Co., Kentucky Census; Magisterial District 3; SD 3; ED 108; Written pages 37-A & 38-B; Stamped Pages 541-A & 542-B; Line 49; Household and Visit #335-340: SHELTON, John, white, male, age 50, husband, married, farmer, born in KY, father born in North Carolina, mother born in KY; Elisebeth, white, female, age 39, wife, married, keeps house, born in South Carolina, both parents born in South Carolina; (next page) SHELTON, Jesse, white, male, age 20, son, house help, KY KY SC; Elitha, white, female, daughter, KY KY SC; Polly J., age 15, daughter, KY KY SC; Malinda E., age 14, daughter, at home, KY KY SC; Martha E., age 14, daughter, at home, KY KY SC; Margret, age 4, daughter, at home, KY KY SC; Layton, age 3, son, at home, KY KY SC (Note; Where was Martha E. Shelton when the household was enumerated in 1870? Census shows Francis Marion was head of his own household in 1880.) -- and -- 1880 Wayne Co., Kentucky; Slickford District 3; Written Page 25; SD 3; ED 108; Stamped Page 12; Line 8; SHELTON, Marion, white, male, head of household, age 23, single, farmer, born in Kentucky I don't know yet what happend to the parents, John and Elisabeth Shelton, after 1880. What do you have on the descendants of Francis Marion or Marion Shelton, and his wife you would be willing to share? Sincerely, Anna Bertram

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I'm new to the listserve. Do I post my message to you? I am looking for info on ancestors and siblings for Marion Shelton who is listed in the 1880 census (Wayne County) as a 23 yr. old farmer, place of birth unknown, and his wife, Martha. Marion married Martha Jane Mathew, who was born in Monticello (Wayne County). They had children who include Myrtle (my g.grandmother), Willie, and Mattie (may be more). Marion, Martha, their kids, and Dolly Mikel (maybe others) migrated to St. Louis, Mo., about 1896 in a covered wagon, according to Myrtle as told me to when I was a child. Dolly Mikel (nee Mathew) was Martha Jane's sister. Additional info that I have is that Martha Jane Matthew's & Dolly Mike's parents were James Mathew & Mollie (or Millie?) Mathew (nee Upchurch). Both James Mathew & Mollie (or Millie) Upchurch were born in Monticello. Does this ring a bell with anyone?

Here is my e-mail address. Am I able to post questions now? Thanks, Donna

Thank you very much. No one else has made your kind offer. I am looking for death, will or probate records on Jesse Burris who died in Wayne county between 1860 and 1870. HIs last know place of residence was in Mill Springs, Wayne county in the 1860 census. His widow's first name was Matilda. I have presumed children: Philip E.; Levi; William; Jesse L.; Jasper Daniel and possibly Mary (Polly or Pauline) but need documentation to prove the connection to some of them. Thank you so much. Diane Parrish

Hi, I no longer oversee this list, but to remove yourself you need to send an email message to kywayne-request@rootsweb.com In the body of your message type only the word unsubscribe. That should remove you from the list. Marilyn Marilyn Gregory Fisher, CC Wayne Co, KYGenWeb - FREE Genealogy Resources! http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kywayne/wayne.html Wayne Co, KY Cemetery Project http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kywaycem/index.html Gregorys of Wayne Co, KY http://www.geocities.com/hoosierma/ E & M Genealogy Books http://www.geocities.com/hoosierma/E_M_GenBooks/homepage.html --- On Tue, 8/12/08, sandy hess <sandysea64114@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > From: sandy hess <sandysea64114@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] Wayne county will index? > To: kywayne@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 2:16 PM > I AM NO LONGER ON THIS LIST. PLEASE DO NOT SEND TO ME. > THANK YOU,. > > Diane Parrish <dianesparrish@mac.com> wrote: Is > anyone aware an index, online or otherwise, for the wills of > Wayne > county? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Not really, but if someone doesn't come through for you, I'll be glad to do a look-up for you in June Bork's Wayne County Wills book. On Aug 12, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Diane Parrish wrote: > Is anyone aware an index, online or otherwise, for the wills of Wayne > county? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Is anyone aware an index, online or otherwise, for the wills of Wayne county?

I AM NO LONGER ON THIS LIST. PLEASE DO NOT SEND TO ME. THANK YOU,. Diane Parrish <dianesparrish@mac.com> wrote: Is anyone aware an index, online or otherwise, for the wills of Wayne county? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I AM NO LONGER ON THIS LIST. PLEASE DO NOT SEND TO ME. THANK YOU., Fay Clark <gmcflc@gmail.com> wrote: Not really, but if someone doesn't come through for you, I'll be glad to do a look-up for you in June Bork's Wayne County Wills book. On Aug 12, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Diane Parrish wrote: > Is anyone aware an index, online or otherwise, for the wills of Wayne > county? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have just finished applying the updates sent to me so far this year. Sorry it took me so long to get it done. 28 cemeteries have had updates this year. Eileen Mullins elmullins@comcast.net <http://www.thceramics.com/>

Ron, Hi. Thanks for the correction! I will add this info immediately. I appreciate any and all corrections. CarolynCarolyn S. Beard > From: ronjohnson@frontier.net> To: kywayne@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:54:51 -0600> Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] SEEKING CEMETRY INFO> > (George) Washington Johnson is not the son of James Johnson and Rebecca > Farris, a fact proven by DNA testing.> > Copy of email to Harold Johnson and his response:> > Harold,> > I noticed that the pedigree of 42296 (James Granville Johnson) has as > its first known ancestor, James Johnson (and his wife, Rebecca Farris). I > have seen this a few times before and have mentioned to a few people that > Washington Johnson was not a son of James and Rebecca Johnson. The family of > James and Rebecca has been a known quantity for a great number of years > thanks to the family researchers of the early and middle 20th century who > actually lived in the research area (Wayne, Pulaski and Russell Counties in > Kentucky).> > I have been ignored by those few individuals who continue to maintain > the relationship between James and Washington but I am not adamant about > changing their minds. They are free to believe whatever they like. But, my > DNA test results are completely different than the "James Granville Johnson" > tests and, in fact, I am completely isolated, genealogically speaking, from > everyone else.> > Anyone viewing the two pedigrees and the test results are surely going > to be puzzled. But, I don't want to create problems for anyone. I simply > thought I should point out the differences.> > I see no point in taking the next DNA test stage until, if and when > someone joins who has a better chance of matching me. I am certainly open to > any suggestions you might have to offer.> > Hi Ron,> Ah, you are observant!!!!> > One of the things that became obvious very early in our project was that too > many people relied on existing posted lineages for their own sources. If it > looked like it would fit, they used it! Some of our participants have made > adjustments...others have ignored the obvious. And frankly, there's not much > that can be done about what these people do.> > Hopefully, DNA research will become recognized as the "truth" that it is and > when used in conjunction with a solid conventional research a "standard" > will be generally accepted. For your own information, ISOGG has a committee > working on a protocol for using DNA test results in establishing lineages. > This protocol is in request to DAR, The Mayflower Society and others seeking > a standard for their lineages requirements. I expect that the committee will > be reporting their suggestions in a month or so. I'll certainly send out a > group newsletter reporting their findings. > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The i’m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld

Judy, Hi. I show James as the son of Washington Johnson and Nancy Thompson. I have nine other children for them. CarolynCarolyn S. Beard > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:04:15 -0400> From: jmje36@embarqmail.com> To: KYWAYNE@rootsweb.com> Subject: [KYWAYNE] JAMES GRANVILLE JOHNSON> > Dear List,> > I am seeking any information/contacts about James Granville Johnson, b. Oct 1834 in Wayne Co. KY. He married Martha Stodhill/Stodgehill on 28 May 1856 in Pulaski Co. KY. James Granville Johnson died @ 1900 in Douglas Co. MO.> > Any info appreciated. I am trying to find the connection of this man to my line of Johnson. I connect through DNA.> > Thank you, > > Judy in TX> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ It’s a talkathon – but it’s not just talk. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_JustTalk

Judy, Hi. I don't know where he is buried but I have a small tie in to this family. Their son, Washington Johnson married Nancy Thompson. She was the sister of my Richard Dickerson Thompson, Sr. CarolynCarolyn S. Beard > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:56:31 -0400> From: jmje36@embarqmail.com> To: KYWAYNE@rootsweb.com> Subject: [KYWAYNE] SEEKING CEMETRY INFO> > Dear List,> > I am seeking info on the burial place of James Johnson, b. 1770-1787 VA/NC and died in Wayne Co. between 1850/1860. His wife was Rebecca, and she died @ 1860 in KY. I do not know if she died in Wayne Co.> > Any info appreciated. I connect to this Johnson man through DNA. Trying to find contacts.> > Thank you, Judy in TX> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Making the world a better place one message at a time. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_BetterPlace

Hi Carolyn, Well, I have had a snag since I first posted this. I have been contacted by another Johnson researcher (a descendant of James Johnson) and he tells me that Washington Johnson, who married Nancy Thompson is NOT the son of James Johnson and wife, Rebecca. What are your thoughts about this? Washington Johnson is not my ancestor, I just connect to him (or thought I did) through my Johnson lineage. I would be very interested in your opinion. I seem to be digging a bigger hole for my genealogical research!! Thanks, and I look forward from hearing from you. Sincerely, Judy in TX ----- Original Message ----- From: carolyn beard <carolynsbeard@hotmail.com> To: kywayne@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [KYWAYNE] SEEKING CEMETRY INFO Judy, Hi. I don't know where he is buried but I have a small tie in to this family. Their son, Washington Johnson married Nancy Thompson. She was the sister of my Richard Dickerson Thompson, Sr. CarolynCarolyn S. Beard > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:56:31 -0400> From: jmje36@embarqmail.com> To: KYWAYNE@rootsweb.com> Subject: [KYWAYNE] SEEKING CEMETRY INFO> > Dear List,> > I am seeking info on the burial place of James Johnson, b. 1770-1787 VA/NC and died in Wayne Co. between 1850/1860. His wife was Rebecca, and she died @ 1860 in KY. I do not know if she died in Wayne Co.> > Any info appreciated. I connect to this Johnson man through DNA. Trying to find contacts.> > Thank you, Judy in TX> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Making the world a better place one message at a time. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_BetterPlace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Check out the following Cemetery site. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kywaycem/index.html I checked my copy of the book and the only James was born in 1829 and died in 1908. No Rebecca. I also did not find either of them in the 1850 Wayne Census book I have. Eileen Mullins Tomorrow's Heirlooms elmullins@comcast.net www.thceramics.com -----Original Message----- From: kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kywayne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Erickson Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:57 PM To: KYWAYNE@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYWAYNE] SEEKING CEMETRY INFO Dear List, I am seeking info on the burial place of James Johnson, b. 1770-1787 VA/NC and died in Wayne Co. between 1850/1860. His wife was Rebecca, and she died @ 1860 in KY. I do not know if she died in Wayne Co. Any info appreciated. I connect to this Johnson man through DNA. Trying to find contacts. Thank you, Judy in TX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

(George) Washington Johnson is not the son of James Johnson and Rebecca Farris, a fact proven by DNA testing. Copy of email to Harold Johnson and his response: Harold, I noticed that the pedigree of 42296 (James Granville Johnson) has as its first known ancestor, James Johnson (and his wife, Rebecca Farris). I have seen this a few times before and have mentioned to a few people that Washington Johnson was not a son of James and Rebecca Johnson. The family of James and Rebecca has been a known quantity for a great number of years thanks to the family researchers of the early and middle 20th century who actually lived in the research area (Wayne, Pulaski and Russell Counties in Kentucky). I have been ignored by those few individuals who continue to maintain the relationship between James and Washington but I am not adamant about changing their minds. They are free to believe whatever they like. But, my DNA test results are completely different than the "James Granville Johnson" tests and, in fact, I am completely isolated, genealogically speaking, from everyone else. Anyone viewing the two pedigrees and the test results are surely going to be puzzled. But, I don't want to create problems for anyone. I simply thought I should point out the differences. I see no point in taking the next DNA test stage until, if and when someone joins who has a better chance of matching me. I am certainly open to any suggestions you might have to offer. Hi Ron, Ah, you are observant!!!! One of the things that became obvious very early in our project was that too many people relied on existing posted lineages for their own sources. If it looked like it would fit, they used it! Some of our participants have made adjustments...others have ignored the obvious. And frankly, there's not much that can be done about what these people do. Hopefully, DNA research will become recognized as the "truth" that it is and when used in conjunction with a solid conventional research a "standard" will be generally accepted. For your own information, ISOGG has a committee working on a protocol for using DNA test results in establishing lineages. This protocol is in request to DAR, The Mayflower Society and others seeking a standard for their lineages requirements. I expect that the committee will be reporting their suggestions in a month or so. I'll certainly send out a group newsletter reporting their findings.

Dear List, I am seeking any information/contacts about James Granville Johnson, b. Oct 1834 in Wayne Co. KY. He married Martha Stodhill/Stodgehill on 28 May 1856 in Pulaski Co. KY. James Granville Johnson died @ 1900 in Douglas Co. MO. Any info appreciated. I am trying to find the connection of this man to my line of Johnson. I connect through DNA. Thank you, Judy in TX

Dear List, I am seeking info on the burial place of James Johnson, b. 1770-1787 VA/NC and died in Wayne Co. between 1850/1860. His wife was Rebecca, and she died @ 1860 in KY. I do not know if she died in Wayne Co. Any info appreciated. I connect to this Johnson man through DNA. Trying to find contacts. Thank you, Judy in TX