Thanks Kathy, As you know the Joiners are mine and if you trace that Threatt line back far enough it connects to my Free line again. so i am happy with all the information that you have posted, keep up the great work.... Timothy C. Hoskins Future Lawnmower, Chief Window Washer, All Round Flunky, General Gopher & Resident of the Old Genealogists Home, best kept secret in America Listowner: [email protected] [email protected] <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/tchoski/myhomepage/heritage.html">Click here: Timothy's Tree</A>