This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XBB.2ACE/213.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Do you have the 1st name of the Murry widow John Carter married? The John Carter had wife named Arminta or something like that but she was not old enough to be mother of his children. I think this John was married to a Sarah who died before 1860 census. John is 60 born VA and Sarah is 76 NC in 1850 Russell census. They have a Elizabeth Stills 16 living with them. 1860 Russell census: John 70 Amninta 50 and a John Lovell 11. Do you think Thomas & John might be brothers as they were in Russell before 1830? This is my husbands' family and I have not worked too much on it but working to get his sister to get involved. They are related to the Jones' & Gadberry's of that area of KY in the middle 1800s.