Jay, I was just looking at the IGI. William Smith & Margaret Wise spent the early years in NC. That is where Ambrose and Sarah were born......in 1807 and 1808 respectively. I checked and did find an Elias Smith b: 1811 in Halifax, NC. They had a death date of 1865, but it was an LDS entry......no batch #'s no film #'s........I haven't checked yet to see where Halifax is..........but I will. Marilyn