Nila: I have a Lulu May Shaw b: 1912 near the old Columbia Road, about 10 miles from Columbia in Adair Co., KY. Lulu was the daughter of Nancy Elizabeth Deener and Unknown Shaw....Nancy Elizabeth was the daughter of John Jacob Crittendon Deener & Elizabeth Acre......I'll bet Lillie Shaw would be related to Lulu May. Do you happen to know who her parents were??? Marilyn Phelps

Ann, Thank you so much. Chris

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Christine, Sorry I did not see this letter before I wrote the other letter. I assume you mean the Asher Young book, Relocated Cemeteries of Russell, Wayne,Clinton and Pulaski Counties, Kentucky. It was privately published by Asher in 1989. I know there is a copy in the Russell and Wayne Co., KY libraries. I think there is also one in Allen Co.,Ft. Wayne, IN I will look through the book for the names you mentioned when I have more free time. Ann

It appears there are many of us very interested in the area which is now under water! I have a document signed by my great grandfather, George Wilkerson in 1891, which stated that he lived in Horse Shoe Bottom, Russell County, KY and an 1892 document signed by my great grandmother, Tiriece (Allen) Wilkerson stating that she resided in Clyde, (sic)Wain County. I have not been able to find a death record, nor a tombstone, nor an obituary for either. I could not located them in the 1900 Census in either county. Their granddaughter-in-law, Geneva Hudson Wilkerson (Mrs. Ewell Alford Wilkerson) told me in an interview in 1988 that she thought both were buried in the area which is now covered by water. Does anyone know if the funeral homes in the area would still have any kind of records of those buried in the area? I have searched relocation records but none have been found for either George or his wife Tiriece. I have a book, THE WILKERSON FAMILY, From England to Texas, almost completed but I still do not have a death date for either of them. I would appreciate any help. Marie Wilkerson Dyess

I am looking for the Bryant Cemetery White Oak on the border of Russell Co and Adair Co KY My grandmother, Lillie Shaw died 14 Oct 1918, buried In Bryant Cemetery. Thank you. Nila ----- Original Message ----- From: KellyKat@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 12:56 PM To: KYRUSSEL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RUSSELL COUNTY, KY] Cemetery book Christine, Sorry I did not see this letter before I wrote the other letter. I assume you mean the Asher Young book, Relocated Cemeteries of Russell, Wayne,Clinton and Pulaski Counties, Kentucky. It was privately published by Asher in 1989. I know there is a copy in the Russell and Wayne Co., KY libraries. I think there is also one in Allen Co.,Ft. Wayne, IN I will look through the book for the names you mentioned when I have more free time. Ann ==== KYRUSSEL Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from KYRUSSEL-L, send mail to KYRUSSEL-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Allen, My family (Brown) was from the Indian Creek and Piney Woods area as well. I do have some Long's and McFarland's in my files. I think they married into my family. I also have Wells from Russell Co. with McFarland's and Long's. Do you think there might be any connections here? Do you have any Wells from Cumberland and Russell Co.'s or Brown's from Clinton Co. in your files? Thank you. Christine "Chris" Penwell in Indiana

Ann, Do you know if there is a way to get a copy of this book? Can you give me the title and the year it was printed? I may be able to get a copy from Higginson Books. My family, Eli Brown, lived on Indian Creek. I cannot find his nor his wife's graves anywhere in Clinton or Russell Co. His wife was Susan Westmoreland, Brown, she was born 1876 and died c. 1907. Eli was born 1868 and I don't know when he died. Thank you for any information you may have. Christine "Chris" Penwell in Indiana

Allen, I'm sure others are more familiar with the geography of Russell County than I, but the following comes from the "Russell County, Kentucky: History & Families: ³Long Bottom was in the southern part of Russell County and followed along the flat land of the Cumberland River. It was an enclosed area with the river on one side and a very steep hill on the other side. Highway 127 from the Lake Cumberland State Park entrance to the [Wolf Creek] Dam is on top of this hill which now overlooks the lake. This is where Long Bottom Community was located.² page 37. I might add that some of the older maps indicate that Long Bottom ran some considerable distance from the Dam @ Kendall up the river past Indian Creek, Rowena and past Otter and Beaver creeks to the Cumberland State Park area of the old river bottom. As for Horseshoe Bottom¹s location, the following I quote from the same source, page 59. ³Horseshoe Bottom started at the present site of Jamestown Marina. There was a big store at Dunbar¹s Landing. James Dunbar ran the ferry that would take you across the river to the bottom. Roads out took you to the Horseshoe Hill and Bug Woods. It was 16 miles from here to Monticello, Kentucky.....When you sit in the dining room of Lure Lodge and look out at the beautiful view (over the lake) you are looking over an early spot in Russell County¹s history.² If you continue up (East) the old river channel from Long Bottom, Horseshoe Bottom is the next bottom area starting around where Graham¹s Ferry was located past Belk¹s Island, Greasy and Lily creeks until you reach Harriford Bottom near what was called Green Island. Maybe some of this will help. Denny Lester, g.grandson of James Milton Lester and Mary Boyd who lived in Swan Pond Bottom. On 12/15/04 9:45 AM, "Allen Long" <aljblong@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > I was asking about the book and wondering if any copies are still being > sold? > I am especially interested in the cemeteries that were in Long Bottom.. > I am a descendant of the Longs who lived there and they are also married > into the McFarland families. > > Ann Holder Holmes states she lived in Horseshoe Bottom. Did Long Bottom > run from the present dam up to the first S curve on the Cumberland > River? Where was Horseshoe bottom? > > Looking at an old map, it look like the Piney Wood community was not too > far from the Cumberland River. Is that correct? I was born in KY but > have lived in SC for over 50 years so it is difficult at times to get > things correct. > > Thanks for your help. > > Allen E. Long > > > ==== KYRUSSEL Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from KYRUSSEL-L, send mail to KYRUSSEL-L-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

I was asking about the book and wondering if any copies are still being sold? I am especially interested in the cemeteries that were in Long Bottom.. I am a descendant of the Longs who lived there and they are also married into the McFarland families. Ann Holder Holmes states she lived in Horseshoe Bottom. Did Long Bottom run from the present dam up to the first S curve on the Cumberland River? Where was Horseshoe bottom? Looking at an old map, it look like the Piney Wood community was not too far from the Cumberland River. Is that correct? I was born in KY but have lived in SC for over 50 years so it is difficult at times to get things correct. Thanks for your help. Allen E. Long

List members, Someone was asking about the Asher Young book. I did find my copy. I will be glad to answer questions as I have time. The book is entitled Relocated Cemerteries of Russell.Clinton,Wayne and Pulaski Counties,Kentucky. I have not looked in it for a few years, but will be glad to help anyone, if I can. My family lived in Horseshoe Bottom till it was taken by the goverment. My mother's family lived in Long Bottom which is also under Lake Cumberland. I have a map drawn of Horseshoe Bottom by the late Bob Coffey. He has listed all the houses,barns,churches,etc in the bottom. He also gave me copies of the pictures he had of the buildings he had. Bob was a walking history book and a very nice man. Ann Holder Holmes

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I believe I recently saw that book in the Jamestown library as well. I was there researching for other info and remember seeing it or one sounding like it in Jamestown. Rick in Indy. -----Original Message----- From: KellyKat@aol.com [mailto:KellyKat@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:47 PM To: KYRUSSEL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RUSSELL COUNTY, KY] Lost towns: Owensby, Longbottom, Rowe's Crossroad, W... I just wanted to add to your discussion on Asher Young's cemetery book. He was a cousin and I have this book but couldn't locate it at this time. I believe most of his work was left to the Wayne Co., KY historical society. I saw lots of his work in a filing cabinet in the basement of the library where the historical society stored stuff before moving to their new builing. I will look for the book later this week and will try to help you with what you need from it. Ann Holder Holmes born in Horseshoe Bottom, now under Lake Cumberland ==== KYRUSSEL Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from KYRUSSEL-L, send mail to KYRUSSEL-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thanks Ann.......I've been eavesdropping..........A lot of my husbands family came from Horseshoe Bottom. The Dutton family. Marilyn

I just wanted to add to your discussion on Asher Young's cemetery book. He was a cousin and I have this book but couldn't locate it at this time. I believe most of his work was left to the Wayne Co., KY historical society. I saw lots of his work in a filing cabinet in the basement of the library where the historical society stored stuff before moving to their new builing. I will look for the book later this week and will try to help you with what you need from it. Ann Holder Holmes born in Horseshoe Bottom, now under Lake Cumberland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Turner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XBB.2ACE/1738 Message Board Post: My Grandfather (father's side) was Thomas Alexander Turner. I'm not sure where the family originated from, possibly KY,TN?? His birth:12/1885 death:1944 Married: Martha Delma "Mattie" (Carson). I believe his parents were William A. Collie Turner and Margaret Frances Lee. Thomas Alexander's children were: Norman Thomas (my father), Winnon, Clarence, Jewell and Verna Vee. Any connection? If so, please email me at: to_sue@earthlink.com Thanks!

Allen & Gary: Don't apologize for posting that information on Long Bottom & other communities moved because of the Dam. You might find this interesting........ Now I think this only refers to Long Bottom as there were other communities and many more cemeteries that were moved. >>The following is excerpted from a lengthy legal notice which appeared in the 'Russell County News' edition of Thursday, October 30 [and following issues], 1941, page five. In the original, each unidentified grave is indicated by the word 'unidentified'. In the format below, it's condensed thus (example): 'unidentified 4', meaning four consecutive graves so listed in the notice. 'In connection with the construction of Wolf Creek Dam and Reservoir Project as authorized by the Flood Control Act passed by the Congress of the United States ... notice is hereby given that the following is a list of all known and unknown deceased persons identifiable and interred in ten family cemeteries located above the mouth of the right bank of the Cumberland River in what is known as Long Bottom within the limits of Mile 459 and Mile 464 Magisterial District No. 2, Russell County, Ky., approximately ten miles southwest of Jamestown, Ky., and 12 miles northwest of Albany, Ky, to wit:' Mann Cemetery Unidentified 12 Humble Cemetery No. 1 Johnnie Irwin Humble Cemetery No. 2 Mary Lou Stephenson Opal Nell Stephenson Forest Ray Humble unnamed Allen infant Mearl Otha Johnson Cletis D. Thomas Unidentified Ruel D. Dutton Russell G. Dutton Iza Bell Dutton Kenneth Ray Appleby Clara Appleby Mrs. Eddie Garrett Samuel R. Anderson L. Myrtle Anderson Martha K. Anderson Clemmie I. Warren Unidentified 4 Mat Anderson Margaret Brumley James Brumley R.G. Brumley Unidentified 7 infant son of C. Russell Olice Paul Russell Marvin Brumley James Brumley Martha Brumley Robin Brumley Rose Russell George Russell Joe Russell Ross Russell High [sic] Stephenson Dunbar Cemetery Roy Dunbar Kim Dunbar Emerson Dunbar Lillie McF. Dunbar Mallie Snow A.C. Snow Isaac Cooper Martha Cooper Samuel McFarland Sarah A. McFarland Isaac McFarland Pleasant J. Cooper Julia A.M. Cooper Alice A. McFarland Leo L. McFarland Mabel V. McFarland Gentry Brummitt Unidentified -- 3 Robert Hammond Ollie Hammond Unidentified Son of A.L. Story Snow Cemetery Mariah L. Ballew Story Cemetery A.L. Story unnamed son of Roy Story Stephenson Cem. No. 3 Unidentified -- 3 Ike Brummitt David Pierce Louisa J. Grubb Unidentified -- 5 Sarah L. Pierce Unidentified -- 3 Nancy J. McWhorter Unidentified -- 18 Anna Rowe Stephenson Cem. No. 2 Robert Roy Burchett Dorothy Lee Burchett George Ed Burchett Robert Pierce Unidentified -- 2 Daughter of Ault Conner Unidentified -- 3 Lou Allen Scott Allen Pearl Allen Johnnie Allen Chester Allen Stephenson Cem. No. 1 Rachel Snow Samuel Snow, s/o A.G & M. Snow MCWhorter Cemetery Elisha Pittman Francis McWhorter Jane McWhorter Cleveland Conner Infant of Annias Malone Sallie Rowe Hattie Johnson Rose Ann Johnson Rachael Johnson Henry Johnson 'Notice is further given to all interested persons, that 30 days after the last two publications of this notice, the United States Government will cause the bodies in the above listed cemeteries to be exhumed. Unless requested by relatives or friends all known and unknown remains shall be removed and properly interred in the New Government Cemetery to be annexed to the existing Warriner Cemetery within the Government reservation being acquired for Wolf Creek Dam...'

Thank you Marilyn. Chris

The letter from me that I typed at 11:30 a.m. on 12-13-04 was intended for a private letter to 'GARY" in response to a query he had on KYRussell. I made a mistake and sent it to the list. My apologies to him, the people I quoted, and list members. I will try to do better. Allen E. Long

Sharon: What are you looking for?? I have a bit of info. I have some history here if that interests you along with some muster lists. Thirteenth Kentucky Cavalry Typed by 13th Kentucky Cavalry descendant Charlene Moore The people who lived in the counties of Eastern-Southern Kentucky from Green river to the Tennessee border were largely Unionists, and were made the prey of bands of Confederate rangers as well as suffered from the movements of the larger Confederate organizations. It was necessary for them to organize for their self-defense. They had rallied to the standards of Wolford, Hoskins, Ward, Hobson and others, but the regiments which were at first raised had gone to the front and were fighting for the Union on distant battlefields. There was need for troops at home, and, in fact a man could find greater safety in an armed organization than at his home. The condition of affairs led to the formation of a regiment at Columbia, Ky., beginning in the summer of 1863; it was organized by Col. J.W. Weatherford, who had been a major in the 8th Ky. Cavalry, and it became the 13th Ky. Cavalry. The men were familiar with the country of Eastern-Southern Kentucky, and the regiment was employed mainly in that section. The regiment went at once into active duty even while in process of formation, and before it was mustered into service, which was December 23, 1863. In September and October it was engaged in protecting the country from Lebanon southward. October 29th seven companies were sent after the Richardson raiders. They marched seventy-five miles in fourteen hours, surprised Richardson, and ran him across the Cumberland. October 31st four companies were at Columbia and one at Lebanon, the others at other points. December 6th three scouting parties of one hundred men each were sent out, one to cross Cumberland river at Creelsboro, one at Celina, and one at Burksville. They were to meet at Livingston, Tenn. The movements were successful. Fifteen of the raiding enemies called guerrillas were killed and twenty-three captured, and their horses taken. December 31st the 13th was in Gen. Hobson's department of Southern-Central Kentucky. It remained in his command for a number of months. March 23, 1864, the regiment still being on duty in the same station, Gen. Hobson reported that some of its men under Maj. Rigney had fought with Col. Hamilton on Cumberland river, and captured him and twelve of his gang. May 14, 1864, Col. Weatherford reported from Burksville that he had encountered the enemy at Wolfe river losing two men killed, and others wounded, and captured eight prisoners, including a captain. During the summer the 13th was brigaded in the brigade of Col. Clinton J. True in Hobson's division. When Morgan raided the state in June, 1864, from Pound Gap and made his way to Cynthiana where he was routed and scattered, the 13th was on duty at Lebanon for the protection of that section. August 27, 1864, the 13th was at point Burnside; August 31, 1864, it was brigaded with the 35th Ky., Col. Starling, and 40th Ky., Col. True, in the 1st Brigade (Gen. Hobson), of Gen. McLean's division. September 16th the 13th was ordered to concentrate at Mt. Sterling with the other troops under Gen. Hobson, Col. John Mason Brown, Col. Hanson and others, for the expedition to Saltville, Va. It participated in this campaign and was engaged in all its severe fighting and hard marching. In the battle at Saltville the 13th lost four men killed and thirteen wounded. Returning from this expedition the 13th was at Mt. Sterling, Lexington and Crab Orchard. December 17, 1864, Gen. McLean ordered the regiment to Camp Nelson. It remained there on duty until January 10, 1865, when it was mustered out on account of expiration of term of service. The service of the 13th was over fifteen months, and the entire time was spent in active work; it engaged in numberless skirmishes and some severe engagements. It never failed to perform every duty required, and had the absolute confidence of the commanding officers. From Dyer's Compendium: 13th Regiment Cavalry Organized at Columbia, Ky., December 22, 1863. Attached to District of South Central Kentucky, 1st Division, 23rd Army Corps, Dept. of the Ohio, to January, 1864. District of Southwest Kentucky, Dept. Ohio, to April, 1864. 2nd Brigade, 1st Division, District of Kentucky, Dept. Ohio, to July, 1864. 1st Brigade, 1st Division, District of Kentucky, to January, 1865. SERVICE---Duty at Lebanon and protecting country south of Lebanon until June, 1864. Cumberland River, Ky., November 26, 1863. Creelsborough and Celina December 7. Cumberland River March 19, 1864. Obey's River March 28 (Detachment). Expedition to Obey's River April 18-20. Wolf River May 18. Operations against Morgan May 31-June 30. Cynthiana June 12. Liberty June 17. Canton and Roaring Springs August 22. At Camp Burnside August 26-September 16. Ordered to Mt. Sterling September 16. Burbridge's Expedition into Southwest Virginia September 20-October 17. Saltsville, Va., October 2. At Mt. Sterling, Lexington and Crab Orchard, Ky., until December 17. At Camp Nelson, Ky., until January 10, 1865. Mustered out January 10, 1865. Regiment lost during service 1 Officer and 9 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and 1 Officer and 83 Enlisted men by disease. Total 94. Some of the Battles fought: Notes for DEMPSEY D. DUTTON: Enlisted 12 September 1863 Columbia, KY Rank Farrier Served Kentucky Enlisted K Co. 13th Cav Reg. KY Mustered Out at Camp Nelson, KY on 10 January 1 1865 Source: Report of the Adjutant General of the State of Kentucky Regimental History Battles Fought Battle on 25 January 1864 Battle at Newberry, Kentucky on 25 February 1864 Battle on 29 February 1864 Battle on 05 April 1864 Battle on 11 April 1864 Battle at Scottsville, Kentucky on 30 April 1864 Battle on 17 June 1864 Battle on 14 September 1864 Battle at Saltville, Virginia on 02 October 1864 Battle at Saltville, Virginia on 07 October 1864 Battle on 21 November 1864 Battle on 08 December 1864 Saltville, Virginia OCT. 2ND, 1864 Saltville, Va. Oct. 2, 1864. U. S. Troops, District of Kentucky. Bvt. Maj.-Gen. S. G. Burbridge with the troops of his district, after driving the enemy from Clinch mountain and Laurel gap, met him three miles and a half from Saltville and forced him back into his intrenchments around the salt works. Burbridge then deployed and attacked, driving the Confederates from their works on their right and center and checking them on their left. A destructive artillery fire finally compelled the enemy to fall back to his main works, but the artillery ammunition had about given out by evening and during the night Burbridge withdrew, having suffered a loss of 54 killed, 190 wounded and 104 missing. The Confederate casualties, although not definitely ascertained were undoubtedly as heavy. The engagement was an incident of a raid into southwestern Virginia. Source: The Union Army, vol. 6