Hi everyone. My LOGAN line came to Estill County then Powell County, Kentucky around 1850. (They were from Washington County, Virginia prior to that.) Lines they married in include: WISE, WILLOUGHBY, LAMBERTON, ANDERSON, MYERS, HOLLAN, LEWIS, INGRAM, CROWE, and BELLAMY. Valarie Logan

Hi my name is Rosemary Evon, I was born in Powell co. and lived at one time in Stanton. My surnames from Powell and Estill are: Abney, Frazier, Hall, Johnson, Tipton, Townsend, Crow, Randall, Bowen,that I can remember off hand.

Hi everyone, Ok...we've got a quite a few subscribers and it's time we get to know each other :) I'm Jen and I'm the host of the Powell Co. site on KYGenWeb. While I don't have any direct Powell Co. lines, it seems that quite a few Estill Co. names can be found there. It's been quite here far too long <g> Who's everyone looking for? Jen Jen Bawden - [email protected] ICQ - 6183250 http://www.mindspring.com/~jbawden/index.html KYGenWeb County coordinator - Estill, Jackson, Powell Counties USGenWeb Kidz Project Co-Coordinator

Hi everyone, I found a great script to use if you're researching your family roots. Stuck on questions to ask the old folks? This will help out! http://www.rootsweb.com/~lineage/famhist.htm Jen Jen Bawden - [email protected] ICQ - 6183250 http://www.mindspring.com/~jbawden/index.html KYGenWeb County coordinator - Estill, Jackson, Powell Counties USGenWeb Kidz Project Co-Coordinator

Hi everyone, Updates have been made to the Powell Co. page. You can view these at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kypowell Remember, we're still in need of information. If you have anything you'd like to submit, please contact me. Thanks! Jen Jen Bawden - [email protected] ICQ - 6183250 http://www.mindspring.com/~jbawden/index.html KYGenWeb County coordinator - Estill, Jackson, Powell Counties USGenWeb Kidz Project Co-Coordinator

Hi everyone, Due to unforseen problems with the server, we've had to cancel the Estill Co. Area Chat for tonight. I'll post the new developments on the Estill Co. page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyestill/ Remember, for those of you with AOL, there *will* be chat tomorrow night in private room EstillCounty. Thanks and I'm sorry we had problems tonight. Jen Jen Bawden - [email protected] ICQ - 6183250 http://www.mindspring.com/~jbawden/index.html KYGenWeb County coordinator - Estill, Jackson, Powell Counties USGenWeb Kidz Project Co-Coordinator

Hi everyone, Just a quick note to let you know that if you have ancestors in Estill County or counties formed from, we're going to have live chat going on Tuesday and Wednesday evenings. For you IRC fans out there, check out I.I.G.S. - I.R.C. at http://www.iigs.org/irc/index.htm.en. This link will help you with IRC question, software information and a faq. Our chat starts every Tuesday night, 9:00 p.m. Central, 10:00 p.m. Eastern. When you sign on to the server, type /join #KY-Estill If you're on AOL, head to EstillCounty, a private room. Chat starts every Wednesday night, 9:00 p.m. Central, 10:00 p.m. Eastern. Thanks :) Jen Jen Bawden - [email protected] ICQ - 6183250 http://www.mindspring.com/~jbawden/index.html KYGenWeb County coordinator - Estill, Jackson, Powell Counties USGenWeb Kidz Project Co-Coordinator

Hi everyone! I'm getting ready to add some marriages to the page. They should be added later today or tomorrow. Also, if you have information you'd like added, let me know. Oh...and if you have pictures dealing with Powell Co., let me know. I'm working on the Jackson & Estill Co. pages with pictures and would love to add some to Powell Co. I've got a new listing of Powell Co. books for sale and will have those added today or tomorrow as well. Jen Jen Bawden - [email protected] ICQ - 6183250 http://www.mindspring.com/~jbawden/index.html KYGenWeb County coordinator - Estill, Jackson, Powell Counties USGenWeb Kidz Project Co-Coordinator

If you do, check this page out. There's also a mailing list. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~blksheep/index.html Jen

Does anyone have the 1910 census that could do a look-up? I am looking for BARKER, Mary E. She would be in her early sixties. Also, does anyone know where I can get death records for Powell Co. if there are any. I have marriage index 1864-1980 ( Bride and Groom)and the 1870 and 1880 census if anyone needs me to look something up. Thanks. Myrna [email protected]

Hi everyone, I'm working hard on the Powell Co. Archives located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/powell/toc.html and I need your help. Don't think you have anything to share? You'd be surprised! Take a look in your family information! This is what we're looking for: Bible Records Cemeteries Census, Federal (free, slave, mortality, agriculture, veterans... schedules), State Census Church records (members lists, baptisms, etc.) Correspondence Court records (county, federal, civil, circuit, probate, etc.) Deeds/grants Educational (?) (school histories, newsletters KY's school census, yearbooks?) Land Records (deeds, land transfers, federal land grants, surveyor's records...) Local Histories Local Directories (phone books, old county and city directories....) Military Records (rosters, muster rolls, service records, pension applications): Revolutionary, Civil War, Indian Wars, Mexican, Spanish-American, War of 1812, WWI, WWII, Korean, Viet Nam, Persian Gulf Misc* Newspapers (obits, marriage & birth announcements, local events, etc.) Occupational (Mining inspector's reports, Accident reports, railroad reports, company newsletters, etc) Prison Records Tax lists Tax Records (land, property, state, federal, local, etc.) Vital Records: marriage, birth, death, divorce (or under court?) Wills * No gedcoms or linked genealogy reports accepted because of space limitations, however Family Group Sheets may be submitted. Remember, do not violate copyright restrictions ! Thanks for any help you can give! Jen

Hi everyone, Wanted to let y'all know that I'm not going to be around on the computer for the next few days. We heard today that my adopted mother has come out of remission for the 4th time and has presented with a spinal tumor. I will be at the hospital with her until she gets out. I will be checking mail periodically so if you need me, please put something in the subject line that will catch my eye. Jen

Hi guys, This was passed on to me and there are some great pictures there! Quite a few for Kentucky, but unfortunately, none for our region. Closest they come is Lexington and Breathitt Co. However, I heartily recommend you take a look :) Jen >"The black-and-white photographs of the Farm Security Administration-Office >of War Information Collection are a landmark in >the history of documentary photography. The images show Americans at home, >at work, and at play, with an emphasis on rural >and small-town life and the adverse effects of the Great Depression, the >Dust Bowl, and increasing farm mechanization. Some >of the most famous images portray people who were displaced from farms and >migrated West or to industrial cities in search of >work. In its latter years, the project documented America's mobilization >for World War II. The collection includes about >164,000 black-and-white negatives; this release provides access to nearly >45,000 of these images. The FSA-OWI >photographers also produced about 1600 color photographs. Two illustrated >lists of frequently requested images from the >FSA-OWI Collection, "'Migrant Mother' Photographs" and "Photographs of >Signs Enforcing Racial Discrimination", are also >available from the Prints and Photographs Reading Room. " > >http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/fsahtml/fahome.html >

Hi guys, Got this today and was so excited! The USGenWeb project is listed in Time magazine online! Thought I'd pass it on. >>See http://www.pathfinder.com/time/reports/genealogy/index.html Jen

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While I in no way want to stifle free discussion, as list owner, I reserve the right that, in the event of a flame war erupting, I will step in. HELPFUL HINTS * Accuracy is important and sources are vital. Ancestor lists are worthless if the information is wrong. * All information need not be accompanied by source citations, but I do recommend strongly that posts either include sources or a note stating that they are available on request. * If information is speculation then label it as such until it is proven or commonly accepted as fact. * When posting your query try to give as much information as you know, i.e. dates and places of all vital events if known, along with enough other family members so that the reader can positively identify if they are researching the same family. "Anyone out there the Smith family in Powell County?" just doesn't cut it. * Post your query frequently, perhaps once a month, if you have not yet found your ancestor. New people are joining the list all the time and they may have the info you need. * Consider sending replies to the list, not just to the original poster. Other members may benefit from the data that you provide. Online sources of the Powell County: * http://www.rootsweb.com/~KYPowell/index.html - KYGenWeb - Powell County Happy hunting! Revised July 1, 1998 Jen Bawden - Mt. Juliet, TN [email protected] http://www.mindspring.com/~jbawden/index.html "Life moves pretty fast. If you don't slow down, you'll miss it" -- Ferris Bueller

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Greetings to all, In my searches around the web for my Kentucky roots I could not find a Deja News group for eastern Kentucky. Well, I remedied that today! I invite you to post at the follwing address for your eastern Kentucky searches. http://www.dejanews.com/group/dejanews.members.fam.rebelbelle.genealogy-eastern-ky This is new, so I hope you will contribute and make a connection. Remember, Deja News keeps a searchable archive for 2 years. What you post today will be seen by others researching the same names as you for some time to come. Good Luck, Virginia My Kentucky families: CHARLES, ROGERS, HATTON, HANKS, STRANGE

Hi guys, This came through on the KYResearch mailing list and if you're not a member, I strongly urge you to. Sandi Gorin shares researching techniques for Kentucky with some being applicable to other locations. She also discusses available records, old trails, forts and settlements, history of towns, determining wife's names and other clues from the old County papers, medical and legal terms of the older days, etc. Participation by the subscribers is welcome if it applies to researching. No queries are accepted. The subscribe address is [email protected] and type the word subscribe in the body of the letter. Be sure to turn off your sig. If you don't want to sub, you can still view the tips at http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips. It's a great help in researching! Anyway, in regards to this, Sandi has graciously given me permission to repost these here. It's a great thing to keep in mind when you're talking with those people who might have some information. Remember, please verify each bit of information that comes your way. I've found this to be true. I've heard the stories of the "3 brothers that came from Ireland". Turned out, the 3 brothers may have come from Ireland, but the ancestor wasn't one of them. His family had been in the US 2 generations before him. Also, historical societies are a great place for information, but sometimes it's incorrect as well. If you get info from someone, don't take it for granted. If they can't tell you where it came from, make that extra effort and find records yourself. Happy hunting! Jen [email protected] http://www.mindspring.com/~jelam/index.html "Life moves pretty fast. If you don't slow down, you'll miss it" - Ferris Bueller -----Original Message----- From: Sandi Gorin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 6:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: TIP 155 THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO AUNT LIZZIE SYNDROME TIP #155 - THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO AUNT LIZZIE SYNDROME Today's tip is courtesy of Bill Utterback who is the list owner of KYJACKSON-PURCHASE, and an extremely knowledgeable in researching techniques and history of Kentucky. He has graciously permitted me to reprint a tip which recently appeared on his list, and I have added some comments of my own at the end. "Almost every family has an elder matriarch or patriarch to whom we go for family information. In most cases, the elders of the family also can thrill us with their bits and pieces of other data, besides the facts about their peers which we need to know, and which they may be in a position to tell us. How many of us have been told that we had Native American blood in our veins, or that two, or three, or four brothers "came over from the old country" and founded the family in America, or some other family tradition? Many of you will be nodding your heads, as you recognize and remember these family traditions. The problem for genealogists relative to family tradition is twofold: in the first place, it is very easy to become so convinced that a family tradition "just as to be true because Aunt Lizzie said so", that we begin to try to shape genealogical fact to meet our need to prove Aunt Lizzie correct. And, in the second place, if Aunt Lizzie is still living, and if we should prove the family lore which she so lovingly related to us is false, there is the very real possibility that Aunt Lizzie - or others in the family - might feel that we have impugned her integrity or honesty. One of the most vivid examples of the misuse and misconstruing of family tradition can be seen in Alex Haley's work, "Roots". In that work, Haley attempted to take the family lore about his "ancestor", Toby - or Kunta Kinte, as he supposedly called himself - and prove it to be true. Over the years since the publication of "Roots", very detailed research has been done to backtrack Haley's own efforts and his own scholarship as he tried to prove that family tradition, and, almost without fail, every significant "fact" which he proffered to document his lineage has shown to be incorrect or false. It has had an unfortunate effect on those interested in pursuing African-American genealogy, since it stressed "oral tradition" over documented fact. So how do we avoid that same pitfall? The best approach - and the one that I have taken over the years - has been to try equally as hard to disprove a family tradition. For example, I have a Bailey line in my background, and perhaps a half dozen people over the years have told me that their grandmother, or great-aunt, or some elder family member, had told them that there was an extraordinary Choctaw Indian man in our ancestry by the name of John Armstrong(and the name "Armstrong" can be an Indian name), and that he had been, in the 1700's, educated at Oxford, and was, in all respects, one of the more privileged people of his time and background. I set out to prove or disprove that story, which came from different people (who did not know each other) at various times over a ten year period. There was, in fact, an ancestor named John Armstrong Bailey, who was my ggg-gf. That was an interesting development, when I discovered him. Going back into the 1700's, however, I found that John A. Bailey was, in fact, named for his great-grandfather, John Armstrong. Further research, over a long period of time, indicated that John Armstrong lived in England for a time, did attend Oxford, and, in America, he was well known among the Choctaw in Georgia, as he traded with them and was a good friend to them. So, we somehow, over 200 years, had gone from a man who was named John Armstrong, and who did attend Oxford, and who worked and helped the Choctaw nation, to a Choctaw Indian man who went to Oxford. Family traditions give us a hint of where to go and perhaps a pinch of information about what we may hope to find, but we always need to try to remember that just because Aunt Lizzie says it is so does not automatically confer sacredness on her statements. A wit once remarked that it is amazing how a sheet of paper will just lay there and let anyone write anything on it. The same can be true with spoken tradition. In the 19th century, storytelling was not just a pastime - it was really an art, and embellishment was a part of that art. As long as we keep all of that in mind, we'll do alright with how we handle those family stories." Now to Sandi's comments. What Bill has said is painfully true. I would like to cite some other examples that I have run into with first a comment about "Roots". Although much of the authenticity of Haley's works has been in dispute, it did accomplish something very important. It DID get a lot of people of African-American ancestry interested in finding out more about their roots! It gave many a sense of determination to find out more on their families and have inspired many Black youth to start talking to their elders and putting total an oral history of their family … whether 100% accurate is always in question, black or white! When I was deep into my research on our families, I was met with a family member, quite intelligent, quite well-known, quite learned, who was more than glad to share some of the most fascinating facts with me. I spent several hours with him, writing and taping fiendishly. I had no reason to doubt his accuracy as he was describing events involving his own personal life and those around him. However, just before "going to press" with a family book, another family member, quite closely related, asked to see a copy of this fabulous story. Well, needless to say, 99% of the material had to be pitched upon inspection, as the individual was simply volunteering information the way he hoped he would be recorded, not the way it actually happened! I was saddened but thankful to have found out before publishing! On the other side of the coin however. A dear lady in another state wrote me early in my researching days in my county trying to seek information about a relative here, "crazy Aunt so and so" who said that this relative was hung in the county. She was trying to prepare a family history book for her grandchildren and doubted the accuracy of her aunt's stories! My simple reply back to her was 'Would you like an 8 x 10 glossy of the hanging?" Her relative had indeed been hung here, the last legal hanging in the county. So, this time, Aunt Lizze (or whatever her name) was being accurate. Another tale in our family came down that one of our not so distant ancestors had something very important to do with the typewriter. Hmmm. After 30 some years of hit and miss researching on this great great uncle, lo and behold I find a book listed in the Library of Congress by him and find that he indeed did make a significant contribution. He invented the space bar on the typewriter and had even published a book about touch typewriting - that course so many of labored over in high school! So, we have to do as Bill suggested; work just as hard to disprove as to approve. Maybe we will never find the actual truth. In that instance, I am prone to include it in my writings but stress that this is ORAL tradition and that I am unable at this time to confirm it. Perhaps one of our children or grandchildren can finally find the absolute documentation that Greatgrandma Pocahontas was indeed of Cherokee heritage and not just named that because it was "in" to use the name. Or that Uncle Harry wasn't known as a great horseman and was kidnapped somewhere out west - but that he had been a horse thief and took off for parts unknown! Oral tradition and family tales make our family history live, if we remember as Bill says that story telling can be embellished over the years and grow from generation to generation. The noted author, Lynwood Montell has many books in print on folk tales, ghost stories and superstitions of this part of Kentucky and Tennessee. He has them methodically categorized as to location, age of teller, variations on a theme, etc. It is interesting to note that many of these stories grew out of the same source, but each family added their own "twist" to the tale. After a generation or so, each family swore that it happened to THEIR family, when in fact it was an oft-repeated story that had been heard so many times in front of the fireplace in their woodland cabins, that it became the gospel truth to them and became part of their history. So, if you are faced with Aunt Lizzie tales; go out and challenge them, investigate them, disprove them or prove them! That's one of the fun things of genealogy! Our pastor out in Arizona, George Whitehood, prefaced his little book on his family history with this statement: "This is a story of the way it might have been by someone who wasn't there." © Copyright 16 April 1998, All Rights Reserved, Bill Utterback and Sandi Gorin. 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I am searching for any information on PATTONs and BARKERs in Powell Co. William Harrison PATTON b. 1855 in Powell Co. m. Sarah H. BARKER b. 1866 in Fleming Co., Ky.(my great grandparents) They were married Sept. 12, 1883 in Powell Co. T.S. Tolin as surety. It was Sarah's first marriage and William's second marriage. William was married first to Eliza Adams Feb. 3, 1880. William's father was Charles PATTON b. 1830 Clark Co., Ky. I do not know who William's mother was. Sarah was the d/o John BARKER and Mary E. Jackson. John BARKER was b. in Monroe Co., Oh. and Mary E. Jackson was b. in Fleming Co.,Ky. If anyone has connections to these lines, I would like to hear from you. I have marriage index for Powell Co. 1864-1980 if anyone needs a look-up. Thank you Myrna