Please send any information on the Johns famly , and I will add it to my data base and if thee is any information that you need plese let me know .. George Johns gmjohns@wwd.net -----Original Message----- From: Rdvsr@aol.com <Rdvsr@aol.com> To: KYPIKE-L@rootsweb.com <KYPIKE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [KYPIKE-L] Johns ---- Mayard >I don't know if it is of any help, but I have some information on the early >JOHNS family of Tidewater VA. John JOHNS > >Rodney Veitschegger > > >==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >..........................PIKE MAILING LIST............................ >A ROOTSWEB SUPPORTER AND LISTOWNER AND MODERATOR: commander@inetone.net >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >

Thanks for the tidbit on how to take the photos. Others: ROSE, RATLIFF, BENTLEY, FLEMING, FLETCHER, CASTLE Candy Parent wrote: > > I've had excellent results from taking pictures of pictures--frame and all. > Just take them from a few different angles and try not to stand directly in > front of the photo (sometimes the flash will reflect in the glass.) > > By the way, which relatives are in there? I know we're related on the Ward > and Preston sides.... > Candy Parent > Tazewell County, VAGenWeb Coordinator > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vatazewe > Candy's Clan > http://www.htonline.com/~candy > candy@htonline.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gloria (Rose) Gialdella <gloriag@iwaynet.net> > To: KYPIKE-L@rootsweb.com <KYPIKE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: [KYPIKE-L] New Salem Assn. Minutes, 1825- > > >There are a lot of my relatives hanging in the church. The clerk told me I > could come in and take > >photos of them but I don't know how they will do, taking pictures of > pictures. > > > > > > > >Jonah May wrote: > >> > >> Jim Tackitt wrote;; > >> > >> Baptist > >> >churches also have numerous photos of deceased members hanging on the > >> >walls. In at least one church I'm familiar with, there is a photo of one > >> >old member/Elder born as early as 1823/24 - but most are of more recent > >> >date. > >> > > >> >Jim W. Tackitt, 1830 Johnson Dr., Concord, CA 94520; <jtackitt@jps.net> > >> > > >> > >> Jim, > >> You are right about the set of books being very informative about the > >> people of this area. > >> I know of one of the Primitive Baptist Church's that has a picture of > >> John Varney born about 1814-17 and William Jefferson (Preacher Jeff) > >> May born 1836, this is at McAndrews in Pike County, and several of the > >> Old Regular Baptist Church's has very old pictures. Glad you thought of > >> the pictures, maybe that will help someone find their ancestor. > >> Jonah > >> > >> BTW - I have much information on John Varney and William Jefferson May > >> if anyone connects to them. > >> > >> ==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== > >> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > >> ...........................PIKE MAILING LIST........................... > >> Our PikeList is sponsored by the RootsWeb Data Genealogical Cooperative > >> "ROOTSWEB" is funded entirely by you the genealogical community. To be > >> informed how you can support these and other internet genealogy through > >> RootsWeb why not go ahead and visit their site right now and learn how. > >> .......http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html.......... > >> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > >-- > >Gloria Rose > > > >Old Regular Baptist Church Minutes Obituaries: > >http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries > >Pike County Archives: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/pike/toc.html > > > >Diggin' in - KY, VA & NC > >"ROSE"/"FLEMING"/"WARD"/"RATLIFF"/"BENTLEY"/"BOLLING " > >"FLETCHER"/"COLE"/"BARTLEY"/"SWINEY"/"CASTLE" > > > > > >==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== > >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > >...........................PIKE MAAILING LIST.......................... > >Please do not send attached files to our list. Some older systems will > >not handle or process them. You're encouraged to privately exchange OK > >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > > > ==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ...........................PIKE MAAILING LIST.......................... > Please do not send attached files to our list. Some older systems will > not handle or process them. You're encouraged to privately exchange OK > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% -- Gloria Rose Old Regular Baptist Church Minutes Obituaries: http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries Pike County Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/pike/toc.html Diggin' in - KY, VA & NC "ROSE"/"FLEMING"/"WARD"/"RATLIFF"/"BENTLEY"/"BOLLING " "FLETCHER"/"COLE"/"BARTLEY"/"SWINEY"/"CASTLE"

There are a lot of my relatives hanging in the church. The clerk told me I could come in and take photos of them but I don't know how they will do, taking pictures of pictures. Jonah May wrote: > > Jim Tackitt wrote;; > > Baptist > >churches also have numerous photos of deceased members hanging on the > >walls. In at least one church I'm familiar with, there is a photo of one > >old member/Elder born as early as 1823/24 - but most are of more recent > >date. > > > >Jim W. Tackitt, 1830 Johnson Dr., Concord, CA 94520; <jtackitt@jps.net> > > > > Jim, > You are right about the set of books being very informative about the > people of this area. > I know of one of the Primitive Baptist Church's that has a picture of > John Varney born about 1814-17 and William Jefferson (Preacher Jeff) > May born 1836, this is at McAndrews in Pike County, and several of the > Old Regular Baptist Church's has very old pictures. Glad you thought of > the pictures, maybe that will help someone find their ancestor. > Jonah > > BTW - I have much information on John Varney and William Jefferson May > if anyone connects to them. > > ==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ...........................PIKE MAILING LIST........................... > Our PikeList is sponsored by the RootsWeb Data Genealogical Cooperative > "ROOTSWEB" is funded entirely by you the genealogical community. To be > informed how you can support these and other internet genealogy through > RootsWeb why not go ahead and visit their site right now and learn how. > .......http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html.......... > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% -- Gloria Rose Old Regular Baptist Church Minutes Obituaries: http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries Pike County Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/pike/toc.html Diggin' in - KY, VA & NC "ROSE"/"FLEMING"/"WARD"/"RATLIFF"/"BENTLEY"/"BOLLING " "FLETCHER"/"COLE"/"BARTLEY"/"SWINEY"/"CASTLE"

Jim Tackitt wrote;; Baptist >churches also have numerous photos of deceased members hanging on the >walls. In at least one church I'm familiar with, there is a photo of one >old member/Elder born as early as 1823/24 - but most are of more recent >date. > >Jim W. Tackitt, 1830 Johnson Dr., Concord, CA 94520; <jtackitt@jps.net> > Jim, You are right about the set of books being very informative about the people of this area. I know of one of the Primitive Baptist Church's that has a picture of John Varney born about 1814-17 and William Jefferson (Preacher Jeff) May born 1836, this is at McAndrews in Pike County, and several of the Old Regular Baptist Church's has very old pictures. Glad you thought of the pictures, maybe that will help someone find their ancestor. Jonah BTW - I have much information on John Varney and William Jefferson May if anyone connects to them.

That takes care of that one for me, doesn't it. Jonah May wrote: > > jtackitt wrote;; > > An unindexed 2 vol. set of minutes for the New Salem Assn. going back > >to 1825 [and it's parent Assn., the Burning Springs Assn., 1813-1824] > >has also been pub. by Dexter Dixon & Elder Walter Akers. Printing was > >by Executive Printing & Office Supplies, 215 College St., Pikeville, KY > >41501 (1983). Not sure if any are left for sale. > > I bought the last set of these from Walter Akers about 3-4 years ago, > unless they had another printing made. They do not have obits in this > two volume set. > Jonah > > ==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ...........................PIKE MAILING LIST........................... > A good practice in messaging is to limit 'per line' characters to 65-75 > Many older systems use smaller screens and clip longer lines every time > Help those on our list who have these systems and please consider it OK > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% -- Gloria Rose Old Regular Baptist Church Minutes Obituaries: http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries Pike County Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/pike/toc.html Diggin' in - KY, VA & NC "ROSE"/"FLEMING"/"WARD"/"RATLIFF"/"BENTLEY"/"BOLLING " "FLETCHER"/"COLE"/"BARTLEY"/"SWINEY"/"CASTLE"

jtackitt wrote;; An unindexed 2 vol. set of minutes for the New Salem Assn. going back >to 1825 [and it's parent Assn., the Burning Springs Assn., 1813-1824] >has also been pub. by Dexter Dixon & Elder Walter Akers. Printing was >by Executive Printing & Office Supplies, 215 College St., Pikeville, KY >41501 (1983). Not sure if any are left for sale. I bought the last set of these from Walter Akers about 3-4 years ago, unless they had another printing made. They do not have obits in this two volume set. Jonah

Jonah May wrote: > > jtackitt wrote;; > > An unindexed 2 vol. set of minutes for the New Salem Assn. going back > >to 1825 [and it's parent Assn., the Burning Springs Assn., 1813-1824] > >has also been pub. by Dexter Dixon & Elder Walter Akers. Printing was > >by Executive Printing & Office Supplies, 215 College St., Pikeville, KY > >41501 (1983). Not sure if any are left for sale. > > I bought the last set of these from Walter Akers about 3-4 years ago, > unless they had another printing made. They do not have obits in this > two volume set. > Jonah Re: The "unindexed 2 vol. set of minutes for the New Salem Assn. going back to 1825." A valuable task for someone would be to compile an index of the set - at least for that part of Vol. 1 that goes up to 1895. Although no obits are in this set, there are a small number of references to deaths prior to 1895 and a great deal of other valuable data for the family historian. As example: (1) one can determine with some degree of accuracy when an Elder was first ordained and when they are last mentioned, thus giving an indication of death, or of leaving the church or area, and (2) one can compile at least a brief list of members of a particular home church [mostly Elders, Deacons, Clerks & "Messengers," and (3) one can also determine when a particular church was established, and what the parent church was [at least in some cases]. It is interesting, too, to see the interaction in those very early days between the various churches and individuals in the nearby counties and some of the "rules" of behavior deemed necessary for continued membership. How many of us nowdays would think of riding a horse to church from Beefhide Creek in Pike Co. to Flat Gap in present Johnson Co.? Well, I guess one wouldn't have to worry about "commuter traffic" slowdowns! (: This set of Minute abstracts was available for study at the Allara Library. BUT, as the set is NOT indexed, your valuable time can probably be better spent viewing old newspaper film [also not indexed but a lot of fun looking] or other items in their collection. Those who were raised in the area are probably very familiar with the practice, but "outsiders" may not know that the Old Reg. Baptist churches also have numerous photos of deceased members hanging on the walls. In at least one church I'm familiar with, there is a photo of one old member/Elder born as early as 1823/24 - but most are of more recent date. Jim W. Tackitt, 1830 Johnson Dr., Concord, CA 94520; <jtackitt@jps.net> *************************************************************** Tackett Assn. Website: <http://www.jps.net/jtackitt/index.html> [Please send along your name & USPS address with all email. Thanks!]

Re: Pike Co., KY Newspapers / Obits The old Pike Co. News from Feb 1924 to ? is available on microfilm at the Allara Library, Pikeville College, Pikeville, KY. There is a microfilm printer right with the reader so it is very convenient. There are very few obits at these early dates, but lots of other interesting articles of value. There was an earlier newspaper published for a short time at Virgie. I've seen copies but don't recall the name. Brief abstracts of obits/memorials from the New Salem Assn. of Old Reg. Baptists, 1895-1950 [which covers the Pike Co. area] can be purchased from Joe R. Skeens, HC 68, Box 225, Prestonsburg, KY 41653. Unfortunately there is only a surname index so any research can be time-consuming. Brief abstracts of a few obits from unspecified years for the Union Assn. of Old Reg. Baptist Minutes [also many from the Pike Co. area] can be found on: "Old Regular Baptist Church Minutes Obituaries": <http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries>. It is easy to search names on this site, however full references are not given [i.e., year of Minutes or page number]. I know of at least three of us who have nearly complete collections of both the New Salem & Union Associations of Old Reg. Baptists Minutes going back to the late 1800's to present, and many will also be found at the Allara Library, Pikeville College. Obits on a regular basis started in 1895 for the New Salem Assn. and the first I see for the Union Assn. was for 1902. An unindexed 2 vol. set of minutes for the New Salem Assn. going back to 1825 [and it's parent Assn., the Burning Springs Assn., 1813-1824] has also been pub. by Dexter Dixon & Elder Walter Akers. Printing was by Executive Printing & Office Supplies, 215 College St., Pikeville, KY 41501 (1983). Not sure if any are left for sale. And then, there are the "Pike Co., KY Death Records, 1849-1909," by Dorcas M. Hobbs and John W. Picklesimer, Sr. 123 pp., 8.5x11, soft wrap-around cover, perfect bound, FULLNAME INDEX. Available from the Allara Library. [Last known cost was $14 but that was several years ago.] Jim W. Tackitt, 1830 Johnson Dr., Concord, CA 94520; <jtackitt@jps.net> *************************************************************** Tackett Assn. Website: <http://www.jps.net/jtackitt/index.html> [Please send along your name & USPS address with all email. Thanks!]

I found out Pike Co did not have a newspaper until 1925 at which time it was covered by Pike co News, they merged with the present Appalachian News Express in the 1970's. The area was covered by the Lexinton Herald prior to that year. lou@zoomnet.net wrote: > > I'd also like to find one where it gave death notices or obituaries from 1897-1910 in Pike County. > Thanks, > Adda Lewis > > "Gloria (Rose) Gialdella" wrote: > > > Could someone please tell me the name of the newspaper that existed in Pike Co in years 1885-1891? > > Need an article from it. > > > > Thank you > > -- > > Gloria Rose > > > > Old Regular Baptist Church Minutes Obituaries: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries > > Pike County Archives: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/pike/toc.html > > > > Diggin' in - KY, VA & NC > > "ROSE"/"FLEMING"/"WARD"/"RATLIFF"/"BENTLEY"/"BOLLING " > > "FLETCHER"/"COLE"/"BARTLEY"/"SWINEY"/"CASTLE" > > > > ==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > ...........................PIKE MAILING LIST........................... > > Should multiple error messages or a message that 'your mailbox' is full > > appear to the ListOwner.....Your address will be unsubscribed. Remember > > it is your responsibility to UNSUB, if you're going to be off traveling > > or unable to check your mailbox daily. UNSUB and SUBSCRIBE later on, OK > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > ==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ...........................PIKE MAAILING LIST.......................... > Please do not send attached files to our list. Some older systems will > not handle or process them. You're encouraged to privately exchange OK > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% -- Gloria Rose Old Regular Baptist Church Minutes Obituaries: http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries Pike County Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/pike/toc.html Diggin' in - KY, VA & NC "ROSE"/"FLEMING"/"WARD"/"RATLIFF"/"BENTLEY"/"BOLLING " "FLETCHER"/"COLE"/"BARTLEY"/"SWINEY"/"CASTLE"

Have you checked my obituary page at http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries Most of them are of Pike co. lou@zoomnet.net wrote: > > I'd also like to find one where it gave death notices or obituaries from 1897-1910 in Pike County. > Thanks, > Adda Lewis > > "Gloria (Rose) Gialdella" wrote: > > > Could someone please tell me the name of the newspaper that existed in Pike Co in years 1885-1891? > > Need an article from it. > > > > Thank you > > -- > > Gloria Rose > > > > Old Regular Baptist Church Minutes Obituaries: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries > > Pike County Archives: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/pike/toc.html > > > > Diggin' in - KY, VA & NC > > "ROSE"/"FLEMING"/"WARD"/"RATLIFF"/"BENTLEY"/"BOLLING " > > "FLETCHER"/"COLE"/"BARTLEY"/"SWINEY"/"CASTLE" > > > > ==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > ...........................PIKE MAILING LIST........................... > > Should multiple error messages or a message that 'your mailbox' is full > > appear to the ListOwner.....Your address will be unsubscribed. Remember > > it is your responsibility to UNSUB, if you're going to be off traveling > > or unable to check your mailbox daily. UNSUB and SUBSCRIBE later on, OK > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > ==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ...........................PIKE MAAILING LIST.......................... > Please do not send attached files to our list. Some older systems will > not handle or process them. You're encouraged to privately exchange OK > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% -- Gloria Rose Old Regular Baptist Church Minutes Obituaries: http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries Pike County Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/pike/toc.html Diggin' in - KY, VA & NC "ROSE"/"FLEMING"/"WARD"/"RATLIFF"/"BENTLEY"/"BOLLING " "FLETCHER"/"COLE"/"BARTLEY"/"SWINEY"/"CASTLE"

I'd also like to find one where it gave death notices or obituaries from 1897-1910 in Pike County. Thanks, Adda Lewis "Gloria (Rose) Gialdella" wrote: > Could someone please tell me the name of the newspaper that existed in Pike Co in years 1885-1891? > Need an article from it. > > Thank you > -- > Gloria Rose > > Old Regular Baptist Church Minutes Obituaries: > http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries > Pike County Archives: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/pike/toc.html > > Diggin' in - KY, VA & NC > "ROSE"/"FLEMING"/"WARD"/"RATLIFF"/"BENTLEY"/"BOLLING " > "FLETCHER"/"COLE"/"BARTLEY"/"SWINEY"/"CASTLE" > > ==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ...........................PIKE MAILING LIST........................... > Should multiple error messages or a message that 'your mailbox' is full > appear to the ListOwner.....Your address will be unsubscribed. Remember > it is your responsibility to UNSUB, if you're going to be off traveling > or unable to check your mailbox daily. UNSUB and SUBSCRIBE later on, OK > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Could someone please tell me the name of the newspaper that existed in Pike Co in years 1885-1891? Need an article from it. Thank you -- Gloria Rose Old Regular Baptist Church Minutes Obituaries: http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries Pike County Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/pike/toc.html Diggin' in - KY, VA & NC "ROSE"/"FLEMING"/"WARD"/"RATLIFF"/"BENTLEY"/"BOLLING " "FLETCHER"/"COLE"/"BARTLEY"/"SWINEY"/"CASTLE"

I've had excellent results from taking pictures of pictures--frame and all. Just take them from a few different angles and try not to stand directly in front of the photo (sometimes the flash will reflect in the glass.) By the way, which relatives are in there? I know we're related on the Ward and Preston sides.... Candy Parent Tazewell County, VAGenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~vatazewe Candy's Clan http://www.htonline.com/~candy candy@htonline.com -----Original Message----- From: Gloria (Rose) Gialdella <gloriag@iwaynet.net> To: KYPIKE-L@rootsweb.com <KYPIKE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [KYPIKE-L] New Salem Assn. Minutes, 1825- >There are a lot of my relatives hanging in the church. The clerk told me I could come in and take >photos of them but I don't know how they will do, taking pictures of pictures. > > > >Jonah May wrote: >> >> Jim Tackitt wrote;; >> >> Baptist >> >churches also have numerous photos of deceased members hanging on the >> >walls. In at least one church I'm familiar with, there is a photo of one >> >old member/Elder born as early as 1823/24 - but most are of more recent >> >date. >> > >> >Jim W. Tackitt, 1830 Johnson Dr., Concord, CA 94520; <jtackitt@jps.net> >> > >> >> Jim, >> You are right about the set of books being very informative about the >> people of this area. >> I know of one of the Primitive Baptist Church's that has a picture of >> John Varney born about 1814-17 and William Jefferson (Preacher Jeff) >> May born 1836, this is at McAndrews in Pike County, and several of the >> Old Regular Baptist Church's has very old pictures. Glad you thought of >> the pictures, maybe that will help someone find their ancestor. >> Jonah >> >> BTW - I have much information on John Varney and William Jefferson May >> if anyone connects to them. >> >> ==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== >> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >> ...........................PIKE MAILING LIST........................... >> Our PikeList is sponsored by the RootsWeb Data Genealogical Cooperative >> "ROOTSWEB" is funded entirely by you the genealogical community. To be >> informed how you can support these and other internet genealogy through >> RootsWeb why not go ahead and visit their site right now and learn how. >> .......http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html.......... >> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > >-- >Gloria Rose > >Old Regular Baptist Church Minutes Obituaries: >http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Obituaries >Pike County Archives: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/pike/toc.html > >Diggin' in - KY, VA & NC >"ROSE"/"FLEMING"/"WARD"/"RATLIFF"/"BENTLEY"/"BOLLING " >"FLETCHER"/"COLE"/"BARTLEY"/"SWINEY"/"CASTLE" > > >==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >...........................PIKE MAAILING LIST.......................... >Please do not send attached files to our list. Some older systems will >not handle or process them. You're encouraged to privately exchange OK >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > >

Shasta971@AOL.COM wrote: > Hello, > Do you have other relatives from the Pike Co.? > Shasta I have tons of relatives in Pike Co. ... ... ... Pike Co., OH! All my mothers ancestors settled there in 1800-1820. BELLARs came no later than 1814, possible several years prior. (That was meant as humor!) In Pike Co., KY my only known relatives are CLARK and ETTER. Evidently, Ken Burke is my third cousin and lives in Pikeville. any of his CLARK / ETTER ancestors would be mine, too. He seems to be better informed on this than I am. I suggest you contact him if interested in more on them (his e-address is under cc: above). I have living relatives on my mother's side: BELLAR. Although they moved to Pikeville some time ago, the history of the family is really in Pike Co., OH. Earl BELLAR was my second cousin. I think Dorothy's SAYLERS (or SAYLORS) are from around that area. That's why they settled there. I know nothing about her family, not even how to spell the name, for sure. Contact her if the name means something to you. On the other hand, if BELLAR strikes a cord, I definitely do want to hear from you ... cousin. Happy hunting ... -- Rod.Bias@ASU.Edu Rodney L. Bias (602) 438-9202 4648 East Saint Catherine Avenue Phoenix, Arizona 85040-5369 USA

Hello everyone, I'm sending the following link to my mailing lists for those of you who are stateside or have relatives stateside. This is a site I received from the Armstrong Mailing List. You can enter the surname and select US Census choice from the following: 1850, 1890, 1920, 1990. You will see a map of the US showing the distribution of the surname selected. Here is the url: http://www.hamrick.com/names Here is the link to click for those of you who can use it: <A HREF="http://www.hamrick.com/names">U.S. Surname Distribution</A> Sandi Merritt Researching Armstrong, Branham, Burchett, Cecil, Graham, Harris, May, Merritt, Nesbit, Sizemore, Stratton, Stewart, Witten

Hello KYPIKE-L -- I'm new. In fact, I've yet to receive my first post from y'all. Nevertheless, I venture out to tell why I subscribed to this list. Any help locating information on the marriage (or anything else about these people): Daniel CLARK (c. 1836) born in or near Pikeville, KY. Sarah Frances UTTER (c. 1837) born in or near Tazewell, VA. They married about 1858. I hope in Pike Co., KY. Eventually they seem to have reached Lincoln Co., WV. I can see that lots of CLARKs must have passed through Pike Co. over the years. I'm hoping only one family of UTTERs did. The name is unusual enough that it should stand out in any records: census, land, marriage, tax, births, deaths, etc. Thanks for anything and everything. -- Rod.Bias@ASU.Edu Rodney L. Bias (602) 438-9202 4648 East Saint Catherine Avenue Phoenix, Arizona 85040-5369 USA

Michael A. Radcliff wrote: > > >> I'm trying to find living relatives of, or backgrounds of, brothers > >> Raymond and William White. William lived in Freeburn. b. 6-19-1905 d. > >> 11-13-1984. His brother Raymond lived in Phelps. b. 5-3-1902 d. > >> 7-31-1954. Both men were coal miners. > > Reg, > I wish I could help you, but all I can do is ask YOU a question! I > notice William lived in Freeburn; my grandfather was born in Freeburn on > December 17, 1906 and his father, Cornelius Ratcliff, was a coal miner, > too. My question is, what coal mines might Cornelius have worked in > during that time frame in the Freeburn area? He had another son born in > 1911 in Chattaroy, W.Va.; I don't know whther he had moved by that time, > or not, though I suspect he might have, or else why would he have had > the second son born out of state? Did they live in Freeburn and work in > West Virginia? Also, could you tell me how old a boy had to be to work > in the mines? Thanks a lot! Wish I could have answered questions > instead of asking them! > -- > God Bless You, > Michael A. Radcliff > 2009 Olive Court > Milton, W.Va. 25541 > mradclif@marshall.edu > Hi Mike, The only mine I recall in Freeburn was called the Freeburn mines. I don't know the answers to the rest of your questions. I'm sorry. You might want to call that area's UMW office. Reg

Hi , I would like to have any information on the Johns family , I have a large family file on the Johns line going back to Virginia , would be glad to share. George Johns Ashland , kentucky Descendants of Richard Johns Generation No. 1 1. Richard2 Johns (Roger ( first )1) was born Abt. 1639 in England or Wales. He married Jane Fox, daughter of John Fox. Notes for Richard Johns: The Virginia Magazine of history & Biography Volume xxv April 1917 NO.2 Extracts from King William Co. Records. 1703 Richard Johns of King Williams Co., Will to Wife Jane Sons, Richard, Arthur, John#1, William, Thomas, ROBERT, Dau. Eliza, who was wife of James Adams, Mary wife of John Randle Jane wife of Josias Randle Martha (under 18) Wife Jane widow of Richard qualified as Adm'x, with Henry & John fox, Securities. Children of RICHARD JOHNS and JANE FOX are: i. ARTHUR3 JOHNS, b. Abt. 1660, King William Co., VA. ii. JANE JOHNS, b. Abt. 1662, King William Co., VA; m. JOSIAH RANDLE-RANDOLPH, Abt. 1719, King William Co., VA. iii. ELIZABETH JOHNS, b. Abt. 1663, King William Co., VA; m. JAMES ADAMS. iv. JOHN JOHNS, b. Abt. 1663, King William Co., VA; d. King William Co., VA. v. RICHARD JOHNS, b. Abt. 1665, King William Co., VA. 2. vi. MARY JOHNS, b. March 1677/78; d. November 19, 1781, King William Co., VA. vii. ROBERT JOHNS, b. Abt. 1680, King William Co., VA. viii. THOMAS RICE JOHNS, b. Abt. 1681, King William Co., VA. ix. MARTHA JOHNS, b. Abt. 1682, King William Co., VA. x. JACOB JOHNS, b. Abt. 1683, King William Co., VA. xi. ROGER JOHNS, b. Abt. 1684, King William Co., VA. xii. ANNE JOHNS, b. Abt. 1685, King William Co., VA. 3. xiii. WILLIAM JOHNS, b. Abt. 1686, King William Co., VA; d. 1777, Amherst Co., VA. Excerpted from " The Book of Randle" by Sam Randle The Wills of the following two Johns men, only help to round out the family. They are not of direct ancestry, but are umppteenth grand uncles (or is it great) to the descendants of John Randle and Mary Johns Randle. The first was rather dilapidated and missing a word here and there, but most pertinent facts remained. Charlotte Co VA 1765-1791 records (this document in Richmond) IN THE NAME OF GOD AMEN, I Thomas Johns of Charlotte County being weak in body but of sound mind and memory Understanding Do make and Constitute this my last Will and Testament in manner and form following (to wit) Impremis. I give my body to the ground from whence it came and my Soul to God who gave it, as to what worldly Estate the Lord has been pleased to give me I_____ of in manner and form. Following to-wit. Item.--! lend to my 1oving ______wife Catherine one hundred acres of land with the plantation ___ ____on which I live. During her natural life after her Decease that __ ___ ___ that the whole of my land I give and bequeath unto my Son John J___ ___ to him and his heirs and assigns forever. I give unto my D____ Catherine one Cow and Calf to her and her heirs and assigns forever. Item. I give all other of my moveable Estate whatsoever Jointly to my Loving wife, at her death to John Johns and in case they cannot live together to be Equally divided Between them on their paying to Each of my daughters Margaret and ____ Twenty shillings apiece. Also I give to my Daughter Catherine five pounds cf Virginia Current Money to be paid to her in one year after my death, also I Desire that my Estate shall not be appraised nor in(ventory) of the same Taken likewise ___ I constitute and appoint my Son J___ ___and William Cook Executors of this my last will and Testament in - - whereof I have hereunto Set my hand and Seal the 11th day of June, 17__. Sioned, Sealed, and Acknowledged to be his last will and Test ament ___________ _______ _______ Thomas Rice Jchns. Proved Charlotte Co. VA. 7th August 1769. Test. Samuel Cobb, Clerk. (Note; This seems only place where he used name of Rice.) V I p 102 Charlotte Co VA Records 1765-1791 IN THE MANE OF GOD AMEN, I John Johns of Charlotte Co in the Commonwealth of VA being weak in body, but of Sound Memory and understanding do constitute this my Last will and Testament and in manner and form following: Imprimis:: I commit my Body to the Ground from whence it came, and my Soul to God who gave it; as to my worldly estate I order it as follows (to-wit) The Plantation whereon I live with one hundred acres of land I leave to my Loving wife Lucy during her widowhood, also my negro Fellow during the same time. Item. I give to my son Thomas Johns the whole of my land and negro fellow at the Death or marriage of my wife also a horse and saddle. Feather- bed and Furniture when he comes to the age of twenty-one years, he paying to each of his sisters the sum of twenty-five pounds, Lawful Money of Virginia as they arrive to the age of twenty-one years, excepting the youngest Twin___ Margaret at the age of twenty-three years, to him and them, their heirs and assigns forever all the rest of my moveable Estate not mentioned, I lend to my wife during her widowhood to enable her to raise and school my children, excepting what is left her by her Father and is now in Hanover County which I freely Give her to dispose of as she pleases, the rest at her death or marriage to be equally divided between my Daughters their heirs and assigns, forever and on condition my mother thinks fit to give up her Life on the Land she agrees to take fifty Pounds Current Money of Virginia instead thereof. I likewise desire that my Estate may not be appraised nor Inventory taken. I likewise appoint Thomas Rice, John Younger, Samuel Clark, and Perrin Allday, Executors of this my last will and Testament. In witness whereof I hereunto set my hand and Seal this 23rd day of January, 1778. John Johns S.S. Signed, sealed and and acknowledged to be his last will and Testament in the presence of Samuel Rice, Mary (X) (her mark) Mills, William Cook. At a Court held for Charlotte County the 4th day of May 1778, the within written last will and testament of John Johns deceased was exhibited in Court by Thomas Rice, etc., the Executors therein named and the same was proved by the Oaths of Mary Mills and William Cook, two of the Witnesses hereto subscribed, and order to be recorded and Perrin Allday and John Young two of the Executors Relinquished in open court all Right of Executors to the said will on the motion of the other executors who made oath according to law. A limited trace of the family Roger Johns Lived, and was Mayor, at Bristol England 1559 Supposedly married and had some offspring. About 86 years go by,and Roger Johns Lived, and was granted land in Ncrthampton Co VA. Supposedly married and had children, in England. Here, too? May have brought children here with him, or transported later. Possible sons, include 1. Roger Johns I 2, Jacob Johns V 1 p 103 3, Richard Johns b. ______ d. VA 1703 m. Jane - (His will is one of only 11 left in King Win. Co VA) (Richard said to have come to America with his father in 1645) Children: (13) 1.Richard Johns 6.William Johns 11.Jane Johns 2.Arthur " 7.Thomas 12.Anne 3.John ' 8.Robert 13.Martha ' 4.Jacob " 9.Elizabeth " 5.Roger " lO.Mary 1. Richard Johns b. abt 1655 VA Appears to have lived King & Queen Co VA - Records lost 2. Arthur Johns b. abt 1660 VA Lived King & Queen Cc. VA in 1702 - was one of the aforementioned allegiance to England endorsers 3. John Johns - b abt 1663 VA b. King Wm Co Va, or that portion which did become King Wm Co-from there, he is said to have moved to Bedford Co, & it is believed he and his family remained in close proximity to Bedford Co for a generation, (The proximity covered Bedford, Amherst, Charlotte, Campbell, Lunenburg, Appomattox, Gcoochland & Buckingham counties) Children 2 credited 1, John Johns, Jr. (This man seems to fit the era of the 1776 will; however, a cousin, son of Thomas also is likely, and was so credited.) 2, Mary Johns b abt May7/6, 1716 4. Jacob Johns d bef 1703? Not mentioned in Richard's Will 5, Roger Johns d before 1703 not mentioned in Richard's will. 6, William Johns b abt 1670 7. Thomas Johns (see will) b abt 1681 mar Catherine - Children 3 1, John Johns Jr. b abt 1719/20 d. 1778 b King Win Co VA d Charlotte Co VA m. Lucy Lucy mar 2ndly on Dec 5, 1785, in Charlotte Co VA William Penticost. Children: (Incl - frorn Will) 1,Thomas Johns 2, Margaret Margaret was youngest, and one of twins; other children not named, but evidently all daughters 2, Catherine Johns V 1 pg 104 3, Margaret Johns 8, Robert Johns Said to have been of age in 1707; was other party of the duo who gave Allegiance to England 9. El izabeth Johns mar. James Adams bef. 1703 10. Mary Johns mar. John Randle bef 1703 Children: SEE RANDLE 1.Apphia 170') 6,.Alice 1712 2.Josiah (s) 1703 7.William 1716 3.John 1705 8.Mary 1718 4.James 1707 9, .Peter 1714 5.Jechonias 1710 (Debatable) 11, Jane Johns mar. Josiah (s) Randle Josiah (s) died shortly before his father-in-law Children: Possible unborn child ( from Josiah (s)'s) 12. Anne Johns under I8 in 1703 13. Martha Johns under 18 in 1703 V 1 pg 105 WILL 0F RICHARD JOHNS In the Name of God Amen, I, Richard Johns, of King Wm. County being very sick and weake in body but of Perfect Sence and Strength of memory thanks be to God Allrnighty Doe Constitute this. my Last will and Testament as followeth; first I comnitt my Soul into the hands cf Allimighty God who gave it unto me trusting through the merits and intercession of my blessed Saviour Jesus Christ to have free pardon and forgiveness for all my Sins, my body I commit to the Earth to be Decently buryed at the Deferentions of my Exrs hereafter named and as for the worldly Estate It hath pleased Almighty God to bestow upon mee I give bequeath as followeth, It. I give and bequeath unto my well beloved wife Jane Johns the Plantation I now live on and all the Land thereunto belonging as far as beaver dam run durein her naturall life and..after her Decease to my Sonn Rich'd Johns and the heirs of his body Lawfully begotten for Ever but if Said Sonn Rich'd Dye without issue as aforesd then the sd Land to fall .to my Sonn Arthur Johns and the heirs of his body lawfully begotten for Ever in Case of failure of issue of both my sd Sons as aforesd then my desire is that the Land fall to my Sonn John Johns and his heires for ever. It. It is my Desire that my Son Rich'd have Liberty to Live on the Plantation with his mother dureing the time of her Life and in Case of their disagreeing then my desire is my sd sonn have Liberty to Seate and live on any part of my Land above named. It. I Give unto my Son Wm. Johns one hundred acres of Land being the Plantation hee now lives on to him and his heires forever. It. I Give unto my Son Thomas Johns one hundred acres of Land out my Land adjoining to the Land my Son William lives on to him and his heires for Ever. It. I Give unto my Son Robert Johns all the remaining part cf my Land in these parts after the above two hundred acres is Laid out to him and his heires for Ever. It. I Give unto my Son Arthur Johns the remaining part of the devident of Land I now live on known by the name cf the Island neck to him and the heires of his body Lawfully begotten for Ever but in Case of failure of Such issue then to my Sonn Rich'd Johns and the heires of his body Lawfully begotten for Ever and in Case of failure of issue as above of both my two Sonns then my desire is that it fall to my Sonn John Johns and his heires for ever. It. I give to my Son Rich'd Johns a Negroe man called Will at the Expiration of three yeares after my decease and Dureing that three years the Said Negroe is to live with my wife and what Ever his labour Shall produce Dureing the time I Desire and appoint it for my Son John Johns toward the buying of a piece cf Land to him and his heirs for Ever. It. I Give to my Daughter Eliz'a now the wife of James Adams twenty shillings Ster'l. It. I give to my Daughter Mary now the wife of John Randle twenty Shillings Ster'l. It. I give to my Daughjter Jane now the wife of Josias Randle Six hundred pounds of Sweet sented Tobacco and Cask Convenient. It. I give to my Daughter Anne Johns two cows and calves and one Thousand pounds cf Sweetsented Tob'o and Cask Convenient to be paid at the age of Eighteen yeares or the day of marryage which Shall .first happen. It. I give to my daughter Martha Johns two Cows & Calves and one Thousand pounds of Sweetsented Tob'o and Cask Convenient to be paid her at the age Eighteen yeares or the day of Marriage which Shall first happen. It. All ye rest and residue of my personall Estate both goods and Chattells that I have not All ready given away I give and bequeaath to my Loveing wife Jane Johns whom I Constitute and ordain my full and sole Ex'r of this my Last Will and Testament Consisting of this and two other sides of halfe a Sheet of paper. In witness whereof I have hereunto Sett my hand & Seale this 12th day of January Anno 1703. V 1 p 106 The mark of Rid'd Johns R.J. Seal Witnesses Henry Fox Wm. Thomas John Fox At a Court held for King Wm. County ye 20th day of March Anno Dom 1703 This will was proved by the Oaths of Henry Fox, Jno Fox, Gent., witnesses thereto and order for probate thereof Granted Jane Johns Ex'r thereunto named. Vere Rscord't Teste Wm. Aylett Cl.Cur. Test. Wm.. Aylett, Cl.Cur. (An account just now read, shows that writer to. believe that Josias Randle married Jane Johns about 1702, and that his will of 1703 (d. Jan) mentions child in Esse.) King Wiliiam Co. VA Children of Richard Johns and Jane Fox are: 2 i. William3 Johns, born Abt. 1686 in King William County . VA; died 1777 in Amherst County , Va.. He married Ann. 3 ii. Robert Johns, born Abt. 1684 in Randulph County , Illinois. 4 iii. Thomas Rice Johns, born Abt. 1681 in King William County . VA; died Abt. 1769. He married Catherine. 5 iv. John Johns, born Abt. 1663 in King William County . VA. 6 v. Arthur Johns, born Abt. 1660 in King William County . VA. 7 vi. Richard Johns, born Abt. 1665 in King William County . VA. 8 vii. Elizabeth Johns, born Abt. 1663 in King William County . VA. She married Jame A. Adams. 9 viii. Mary Johns, born 1677-1678 in King William County . VA; died November 19, 1781 in King William County . VA. She married John Randle. 10 ix. Jane Johns, born Abt. 1662 in King William County . VA. She married Josias Randle Abt. 1719 in King William County . VA. 11 x. Martha Johns, born Abt. 1682 in King William County . VA. 12 xi. Anne Johns, born Abt. 1685 in King William County . VA. 13 xii. Jacob Johns, born Abt. 1683 in King William County . VA. -----Original Message----- From: Rdvsr@aol.com <Rdvsr@aol.com> To: KYPIKE-L@rootsweb.com <KYPIKE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [KYPIKE-L] Johns ---- Mayard >I don't know if it is of any help, but I have some information on the early >JOHNS family of Tidewater VA. John JOHNS > >Rodney Veitschegger > > >==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >..........................PIKE MAILING LIST............................ >A ROOTSWEB SUPPORTER AND LISTOWNER AND MODERATOR: commander@inetone.net >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >

The name of the Maynard book is; The Maynards of East Kentucky from Pioneers to the Tenth Generation by Roland B. Maynard, Hester Maynard Robinson, Henry P. Scalf and Clyde Runyon. Jonah At 09:58 PM 11/30/98 -0700, Rod.Bias@asu.edu wrote: >George Johns wrote: > >> Looking for information on the Johns family and the Mayard families.,Will be >> glad to share information. >> Descendants of James C Johns > > My cousin, Sidney Maynard, tells me there is a "big book" on >MAYNARDS. That's all I know. If someone else on this list cannot supply the name >and source, let me know and I'll get it. > > (Sidney's mother was a PERRY who married a MAYNARD. That's how we >are cousins: through PERRY line.) > > >-- > >Rod.Bias@ASU.Edu > >Rodney L. Bias (602) 438-9202 >4648 East Saint Catherine Avenue >Phoenix, Arizona 85040-5369 USA > > > >==== KYPIKE Mailing List ==== >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >...........................PIKE MAILING LIST........................... >To contact our Pike List Owner Glenn Belcher: "E" commander@inetone.net >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >

I don't know if it is of any help, but I have some information on the early JOHNS family of Tidewater VA. John JOHNS Rodney Veitschegger