Can someone help me get straightened out on Sarah Couch d/o John and Mary Polly Couch Campbell? This e-mail shows me a third spouse for her. I have a Moses Combs, James Lewis, and Hardy Williams. Where have I gotten so confused on this one? Thanks, Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Fay Keith<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [KYPERRY] New documented Couch/ Campbell marriage Dec. 1783Orange Co NC I know you didn't ask me, but Martin (my ancestor) was a son of John Couch and Elizabeth James... geeze my grandmother Lewis b. 1868 knew that. Another of my Lewis ancestors is known to have gone to NC to visit his Boone kinfolk... that was William the son of James T Lewis, and Sarah 'Sallie' Couch, who was a daughter John Couch b. 1750 and Mary Polly Boone. If this isn't a connection I don't know what would be. Like I said before I don't have actual paper proof of what I'm saying but I believe the proof is out there somewhere .. it's just in hiding. Fay On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:48 PM, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Vic, > Please clarify who are the parents of Martin Couch who came to KY with father > John Couch (which one?) and was the progenitor of a number of Perry County > families? Martin's wife was Sarah "Sally" Hall. > > Thanks, > Dona Ritchie > > In a message dated 6/9/08 3:49:15 PM, Vic writes: > >> Here is a correction for such mis-information, conserning the Perry co. Ky >> Couch family >> The supposed 2nd.marriage of John Couch & Elizabeth James Campbell. Dec. >> 1783 Orange Co NC. >> >> There are 2 john Couches (b.1750), 1 in Ashe co NC m. Boone. & other in >> (1745) Orange co NC. >> There has been confushion between these 2 men. David & Ruth Couch were >> able to seperate some un truths or honest mistakes over the years on the >> inter-net. >> John (1750) of Ashe co. m. Boone, NEVER married Orange co NC Elizabeth >> Campbell Dec 1783 or Mary (Couch) Patterson. >> They proved Orange co (1745) John's mother was Mary Couch Patterson from >> her will 1796. >> widow mary couch marries widower john patterson age 60,in orange co nc in >> 1777. he died april 1787. mary died in feb 1796. provisions of her will state >> property will be divided amoung the children of john & (deceased) besty >> (campbell) her grand children ! mary, letitia, july, elenor, elizabeth. all >> under 18. Mecklenburg co. Va. >> john couch marries 2nd to susanna smith oct 1799. john dies july 1823 >> leaves a will naming wife susanna & son john & letty (letitia), polly (mary), >> julia (july), ealinor & elizabeth. As you see same children but john must be >> with new from wife susanna. >> >> Which proves (1750) John Couch of Ashe co & Ky was NEVERED married to >> his daughters mother - in-law. Elizabeth Campbell. > > > ************** > Vote for your > city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. > > (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102<http://citysbest.aol.com/?ncid=aolacg00050000000102>) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Carter. On 6/18/08, Carter L Combs <[email protected]> wrote: > Fay > > According to the report on the Combs-Coombs website, Biram was married to > the d/o William Ridge but the given name is unknown.(oral family history). > http://www.combs-families.org/combs/families/c-biram.htm > > Carter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fay Keith" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs > > > >I have a Briam 'Bram' Combs b. 1760.. listed as the son of John > > 'father of 8" Combs and Nancy Harding... I do not have a wife listed. > > > > John and Nancy are my ggggg-grandparents. > > > > Fay > > > > On 6/11/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks Carter, I will have to change that > >> Paul > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >> On > >> Behalf Of Carter L Combs > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:13 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> The Combs Research Group has the children of Long Jerry listed along with > >> possible children and disproven. Byram is not listed. Here is the link. > >> http://www.combs-families.org/combs/families/c-jlong.htm > >> > >> Carter > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Paul S. Boggs" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:57 PM > >> Subject: Re: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs > >> > >> > >> > Glo, > >> > I am showing the parents of Byram Combs to be Jeremiah "Long Jerry" > >> > Combs > >> > and Nancy Combs. > >> > Paul S Boggs > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [email protected] > >> > [mailto:[email protected]] > >> > On > >> > Behalf Of Gloria > >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:07 PM > >> > To: Knott > >> > Cc: Perry > >> > Subject: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs > >> > > >> > On my Gibson line Kenus Combs married Nancy Gibson. I have that > >> > Kenus > >> > was the s/o Byram Combs & Hannah Owens. Does anyone know the > >> > parents of this Byram Combs. I don't have parents of Hannah Owens > >> > either. > >> > > >> > glo > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes > >> > in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG. > >> > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: > >> > 6/10/2008 > >> > 5:11 PM > >> > > >> > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> > Checked by AVG. > >> > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: > >> > 6/10/2008 > >> > 5:11 PM > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG. > >> > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1493 - Release Date: > >> > 6/9/2008 > >> > 5:25 PM > >> > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG. > >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: 6/10/2008 > >> 5:11 PM > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> Checked by AVG. > >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1497 - Release Date: 6/11/2008 > >> 8:32 AM > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1507 - Release Date: 6/18/2008 > > 7:09 AM > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Ok.. thanks On 6/18/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Generally, only where it's intersected with the Ritchie families. There's no > direct Hall ancestors. > Dona > > > In a message dated 6/18/08 2:12:40 PM, [email protected] writes: > > > Dona, have you done much research on the Hall's? > > > ************** > Gas prices > getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. > > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I'd love to know how to de-bunk bad info off the net too... such as my GG-grandfather Thomas 'Anse' Couch (I know on the net it says Alfred) (m. Elizabeth Campbell) as being the son of Martin Couch... just isn't so according to Thomas death certificate which names his father as (looks like) James Couch to me, but definately isn't Martin. I'm not sure who James' father was but a James and Martin Couch are mentioned in one of the Dickey Diaries as being brothers. Also a James and Marton Couch is found listed living side by side in the 1810 Washington Co. Va. census, then in 1820 a James and Martin Couch were found listed in 1820 Clay Co Ky census, . In 1820 James Couch was living between Martin Couch and William Harding. Williams', Lewis', Pennington's, Bowling's, Davidson's, and Fry's were also found living in the area. Sarah (Campbell) Baker interview; Wooton, July 22, 1898: John J Dickey Dairy, roll 3, page # 2436-2437: I was born in Perry County, Kentucky in 1824. My father was born in 1800. (the dairy spells the previous as Cambell but I believe that an error jfBurke). He was the son of John Campbell who emigrated from New River, North Carolina. I do not know when. His wife was Polly Couch, his brothers-in-law Martin and James came with him, also his brother William, who went to Indiana after I was 17 years old. None of his children were married when he came here. He was poor and came to better his condition. Some argue that because Sarah says that James and Martin were brother-in-laws, insted of half brother-in-laws, to her father that it proves that they were full brothers to Polly. Not necessarily so... my husband had a whole slew of half brothers and sisters from both his mother and father and I never once heard him refer to them as "half" brothers or half sisters when talking about them in general. Also to make this a bit more interesting (I've been waiting a long time to be able to say this). Thomas 'Anse' Couch (m. Elizabeth Campbell) has been proved to be the same 'Anse' Couch that is mentioned in the Up Cutshin, Down Greasy book. It has been proved by the death certificate of one of his sons... the death certificate of John Couch (m. Sally Shepherd) named his parents as Thomas Couch and Elizabeth Campbell... then my gg-grandfather Elihue Couch named Thomas Couch and Elizabeth Campbell as his parents on one of his marriage liscense.. plus Perry Co births also show his parents as Thomas Couch and Elizabeth Campbell. These documents prove that Elihue 'Lihu' and ole John Couch of "Up Cutshin, Down Greasy" are indeed brothers. Thomas was another of the brothers mentioned in the book... haven't proved him on paper, but my mom remembered him, and we found his gravestone in the Piney Fork Cemetery on Leatherwood in Perry Co. Ky. He is buried along with his first wife Mary, and two of his children, and not 50 feet from my g-grandparents, Elihue 'Lihu' and Mary Ann Burns Couch. Sorry if this bursts someone's bubble, but I do have that so sacred paper trail from myself to James Couch b. Bet. 1780 - 1790. Whether my ggg-grandfather James is the same James Couch that traveled with Martin Couch I do not know. I suspect he was since I found no other James in the area at that time, but I have no paper to prove that... maybe someday. Fay On 6/8/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Vic, > For sure, post to the appropriate maillists and bulletin boards, such as for > the surnames and the counties. Post your corrections here! Best when you do > so, to cite the documents or research that have proved your new facts or > debunking of old information. That way we all can evaluate the evidence for proof one > way or the other. I appreciate anyone posting new evidence, especially if it > corrects old mistakes (even my own). We all learn as we go, sometimes make bad > assumptions, and often find out we were off the mark originally. That's > family history research... Most families have some legends and erroneous > information floating around (in the digital age, you can never fully remove anything). > And some people hang on to those legends fiercely. Combat misinformation with > good information. We'll all thank you for it. > > Dona Ritchie > > > ************** > Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch > "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Fay According to the report on the Combs-Coombs website, Biram was married to the d/o William Ridge but the given name is unknown.(oral family history). http://www.combs-families.org/combs/families/c-biram.htm Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fay Keith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs >I have a Briam 'Bram' Combs b. 1760.. listed as the son of John > 'father of 8" Combs and Nancy Harding... I do not have a wife listed. > > John and Nancy are my ggggg-grandparents. > > Fay > > On 6/11/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> Thanks Carter, I will have to change that >> Paul >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On >> Behalf Of Carter L Combs >> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:13 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs >> >> Paul >> >> The Combs Research Group has the children of Long Jerry listed along with >> possible children and disproven. Byram is not listed. Here is the link. >> http://www.combs-families.org/combs/families/c-jlong.htm >> >> Carter >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paul S. Boggs" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:57 PM >> Subject: Re: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs >> >> >> > Glo, >> > I am showing the parents of Byram Combs to be Jeremiah "Long Jerry" >> > Combs >> > and Nancy Combs. >> > Paul S Boggs >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] >> > On >> > Behalf Of Gloria >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:07 PM >> > To: Knott >> > Cc: Perry >> > Subject: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs >> > >> > On my Gibson line Kenus Combs married Nancy Gibson. I have that >> > Kenus >> > was the s/o Byram Combs & Hannah Owens. Does anyone know the >> > parents of this Byram Combs. I don't have parents of Hannah Owens >> > either. >> > >> > glo >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG. >> > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: >> > 6/10/2008 >> > 5:11 PM >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. >> > Checked by AVG. >> > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: >> > 6/10/2008 >> > 5:11 PM >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG. >> > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1493 - Release Date: >> > 6/9/2008 >> > 5:25 PM >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: 6/10/2008 >> 5:11 PM >> >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1497 - Release Date: 6/11/2008 >> 8:32 AM >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1507 - Release Date: 6/18/2008 > 7:09 AM >
I have a Briam 'Bram' Combs b. 1760.. listed as the son of John 'father of 8" Combs and Nancy Harding... I do not have a wife listed. John and Nancy are my ggggg-grandparents. Fay On 6/11/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Carter, I will have to change that > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Carter L Combs > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs > > Paul > > The Combs Research Group has the children of Long Jerry listed along with > possible children and disproven. Byram is not listed. Here is the link. > http://www.combs-families.org/combs/families/c-jlong.htm > > Carter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul S. Boggs" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:57 PM > Subject: Re: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs > > > > Glo, > > I am showing the parents of Byram Combs to be Jeremiah "Long Jerry" Combs > > and Nancy Combs. > > Paul S Boggs > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > On > > Behalf Of Gloria > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:07 PM > > To: Knott > > Cc: Perry > > Subject: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs > > > > On my Gibson line Kenus Combs married Nancy Gibson. I have that > > Kenus > > was the s/o Byram Combs & Hannah Owens. Does anyone know the > > parents of this Byram Combs. I don't have parents of Hannah Owens > > either. > > > > glo > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: 6/10/2008 > > 5:11 PM > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: 6/10/2008 > > 5:11 PM > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1493 - Release Date: 6/9/2008 > > 5:25 PM > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: 6/10/2008 > 5:11 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1497 - Release Date: 6/11/2008 > 8:32 AM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Generally, only where it's intersected with the Ritchie families. There's no direct Hall ancestors. Dona In a message dated 6/18/08 2:12:40 PM, [email protected] writes: > Dona, have you done much research on the Hall's? ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
Dona, have you done much research on the Hall's? On 6/18/08, Fay Keith <[email protected]> wrote: > You're welcome. > > On 6/18/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Fay! > > Dona > > > > > > In a message dated 6/18/08 12:51:07 PM, [email protected] writes: > > > > > Abby was a daughter of Ira > > > (the one they called Si/Cy) Couch b. abt 1812 and Perminia 'Nina' > > > Combs b. abt 1821. Ira 'Si' was a son of Martin Couch b. 1715 and > > > Sarah Sally Hall. > > > > > > ************** > > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos > > for fuel-efficient used cars. > > > > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
You're welcome. On 6/18/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Fay! > Dona > > > In a message dated 6/18/08 12:51:07 PM, [email protected] writes: > > > Abby was a daughter of Ira > > (the one they called Si/Cy) Couch b. abt 1812 and Perminia 'Nina' > > Combs b. abt 1821. Ira 'Si' was a son of Martin Couch b. 1715 and > > Sarah Sally Hall. > > > ************** > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos > for fuel-efficient used cars. > > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Thanks, Fay! Dona In a message dated 6/18/08 12:51:07 PM, [email protected] writes: > Abby was a daughter of Ira > (the one they called Si/Cy) Couch b. abt 1812 and Perminia 'Nina' > Combs b. abt 1821. Ira 'Si' was a son of Martin Couch b. 1715 and > Sarah Sally Hall. ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
Thanks Donna, you are right about Abby. Isaac and Feby Couch are my gg-grandparents. Their son Juder did marry Abigale 'Abby' Couch b. abt 1847. Abby was a daughter of Ira (the one they called Si/Cy) Couch b. abt 1812 and Perminia 'Nina' Combs b. abt 1821. Ira 'Si' was a son of Martin Couch b. 1715 and Sarah Sally Hall. 1850 Perry co Ky census - Dist 1- transcribed by Fay Lewis Keith #19 -Series: M432 Roll: 216 Page: 398 Ira 'Cy' Couch age 25 - farmer- 250.00 - Ky Peraminia age 23-Ky Couch age 12 (1838) -Ky Eli age 09 (1841) -Ky Wiley age 07 (1843) -Ky Jane age 06 (1844) -Ky Abigal age 03 (1847) -Ky Hope this helps Fay On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:01 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Fay, > Your last sentence is so true for many of our families without a lot of paper > documentation. Thank you for stating your position on this debate. Hopefully > definitive answers will come in the future. > > While we're talking about this family, I have another question for you: > Juder Lewis (s/o Isaac Lewis & Phoebe Couch) married Abby Couch. The > annotation for the 1870 Perry County census (at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyperry3/1870perrycensusmaggardprct.html) states Abby is the d/o Martin & Sarah > Hall Couch, but I'd say she's considerably too young to be their daughter (Abby > was b abt 1846, Martin & Sarah in 1784 & 1785, respectively). Do you have her > as d/o someone else, perhaps as Martin & Sarah's granddaughter? > > Thanks, > Dona Ritchie > > > In a message dated 6/18/08 11:01:18 AM, [email protected] writes: > >> I know you didn't ask me, but Martin (my ancestor) was a son of John >> Couch and Elizabeth James... geeze my grandmother Lewis b. 1868 knew >> that. Another of my Lewis ancestors is known to have gone to NC to >> visit his Boone kinfolk... that was William the son of James T Lewis, >> and Sarah 'Sallie' Couch, who was a daughter John Couch b. 1750 and >> Mary Polly Boone. If this isn't a connection I don't know what would >> be. >> >> Like I said before I don't have actual paper proof of what I'm saying >> but I believe the proof is out there somewhere .. it's just in hiding. > > > > ************** > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used > cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Fay, Your last sentence is so true for many of our families without a lot of paper documentation. Thank you for stating your position on this debate. Hopefully definitive answers will come in the future. While we're talking about this family, I have another question for you: Juder Lewis (s/o Isaac Lewis & Phoebe Couch) married Abby Couch. The annotation for the 1870 Perry County census (at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyperry3/1870perrycensusmaggardprct.html) states Abby is the d/o Martin & Sarah Hall Couch, but I'd say she's considerably too young to be their daughter (Abby was b abt 1846, Martin & Sarah in 1784 & 1785, respectively). Do you have her as d/o someone else, perhaps as Martin & Sarah's granddaughter? Thanks, Dona Ritchie In a message dated 6/18/08 11:01:18 AM, [email protected] writes: > I know you didn't ask me, but Martin (my ancestor) was a son of John > Couch and Elizabeth James... geeze my grandmother Lewis b. 1868 knew > that. Another of my Lewis ancestors is known to have gone to NC to > visit his Boone kinfolk... that was William the son of James T Lewis, > and Sarah 'Sallie' Couch, who was a daughter John Couch b. 1750 and > Mary Polly Boone. If this isn't a connection I don't know what would > be. > > Like I said before I don't have actual paper proof of what I'm saying > but I believe the proof is out there somewhere .. it's just in hiding. ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
I know you didn't ask me, but Martin (my ancestor) was a son of John Couch and Elizabeth James... geeze my grandmother Lewis b. 1868 knew that. Another of my Lewis ancestors is known to have gone to NC to visit his Boone kinfolk... that was William the son of James T Lewis, and Sarah 'Sallie' Couch, who was a daughter John Couch b. 1750 and Mary Polly Boone. If this isn't a connection I don't know what would be. Like I said before I don't have actual paper proof of what I'm saying but I believe the proof is out there somewhere .. it's just in hiding. Fay On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:48 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Vic, > Please clarify who are the parents of Martin Couch who came to KY with father > John Couch (which one?) and was the progenitor of a number of Perry County > families? Martin's wife was Sarah "Sally" Hall. > > Thanks, > Dona Ritchie > > In a message dated 6/9/08 3:49:15 PM, Vic writes: > >> Here is a correction for such mis-information, conserning the Perry co. Ky >> Couch family >> The supposed 2nd.marriage of John Couch & Elizabeth James Campbell. Dec. >> 1783 Orange Co NC. >> >> There are 2 john Couches (b.1750), 1 in Ashe co NC m. Boone. & other in >> (1745) Orange co NC. >> There has been confushion between these 2 men. David & Ruth Couch were >> able to seperate some un truths or honest mistakes over the years on the >> inter-net. >> John (1750) of Ashe co. m. Boone, NEVER married Orange co NC Elizabeth >> Campbell Dec 1783 or Mary (Couch) Patterson. >> They proved Orange co (1745) John's mother was Mary Couch Patterson from >> her will 1796. >> widow mary couch marries widower john patterson age 60,in orange co nc in >> 1777. he died april 1787. mary died in feb 1796. provisions of her will state >> property will be divided amoung the children of john & (deceased) besty >> (campbell) her grand children ! mary, letitia, july, elenor, elizabeth. all >> under 18. Mecklenburg co. Va. >> john couch marries 2nd to susanna smith oct 1799. john dies july 1823 >> leaves a will naming wife susanna & son john & letty (letitia), polly (mary), >> julia (july), ealinor & elizabeth. As you see same children but john must be >> with new from wife susanna. >> >> Which proves (1750) John Couch of Ashe co & Ky was NEVERED married to >> his daughters mother - in-law. Elizabeth Campbell. > > > ************** > Vote for your > city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. > > (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Vic, I believe you and Dave and Mary are wrong in your theories of the John Couch's of NC... I believe our John Couch b. 1750 did marry Mary Polly Boone and then Elizabeth James Campbell. As to John divorcing Elizabeth and marrying Mary Patterson I don't think so, even though someone has put a gravestone in a cemetery in Perry Co that says Mary Patterson Couch. I cannot prove what I am saying, but neither can you guys. It might sound good when you put it together like that but it is still speculation and I think we have had enough speculation (told as truth) in our Couch family for way too long... why don't we all just be honest and say 'I think' and not cause any more confusion. A note from David says: I asked Ruth Couch to assist me in researching your John Couch (born: ca. 1750). Ruth and I have spent a number of hours and have come up with a theory and some conclusions. I have attached a draft of our theory. Most of it isn't theory any longer, because Ruth went through boxes of paper records she has collected since the 1960's. We have come to the conclusion that John Couch had only one wife, Mary Polly Boone. Notice how many times he uses the word "theory"... and it is still just that... a "theory: Hope I didn't offend anyone, especially you Vic, but I for one am not buying it. Fay ** On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:48 PM, V Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > There are many mistakes made in genology, It was not as easy then as it is today where we sit down in the comfort of our homes. > Much time & $ were spent on travels to Libaraies, courthouses & such. Many times it was spent on the telephone & corrasponding by U.S mail service with a vararity of family & friends, who ever it took to find information you were looking for at the time. > > Here is a correction for such mis-information, conserning the Perry co. Ky Couch family > The supposed 2nd.marriage of John Couch & Elizabeth James Campbell. Dec. 1783 Orange Co NC. > > There are 2 john Couches (b.1750), 1 in Ashe co NC m. Boone. & other in (1745) Orange co NC. > There has been confushion between these 2 men. David & Ruth Couch were able to seperate some un truths or honest mistakes over the years on the inter-net. > John (1750) of Ashe co. m. Boone, NEVER married Orange co NC Elizabeth Campbell Dec 1783 or Mary (Couch) Patterson. > They proved Orange co (1745) John's mother was Mary Couch Patterson from her will 1796. > widow mary couch marries widower john patterson age 60,in orange co nc in 1777. he died april 1787. mary died in feb 1796. provisions of her will state property will be divided amoung the children of john & (deceased) besty (campbell) her grand children ! mary, letitia, july, elenor, elizabeth. all under 18. Mecklenburg co. Va. > john couch marries 2nd to susanna smith oct 1799. john dies july 1823 leaves a will naming wife susanna & son john & letty (letitia), polly (mary), julia (july), ealinor & elizabeth. As you see same children but john must be with new from wife susanna. > > Which proves (1750) John Couch of Ashe co & Ky was NEVERED married to his daughters mother - in-law. Elizabeth Campbell. > > Comment welcomed, > Vic > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
All we have said was " the Dec.1783 marriage in Orange Co of Couch & Campbell is NOT our Couch of Ashe Co NC. Orange Co Couch & Campbell are from a different lines, Just Not ours. Fay Keith <[email protected]> wrote: Vic, I believe you and Dave and Mary are wrong in your theories of the John Couch's of NC... I believe our John Couch b. 1750 did marry Mary Polly Boone and then Elizabeth James Campbell. As to John divorcing Elizabeth and marrying Mary Patterson I don't think so, even though someone has put a gravestone in a cemetery in Perry Co that says Mary Patterson Couch. I cannot prove what I am saying, but neither can you guys. It might sound good when you put it together like that but it is still speculation and I think we have had enough speculation (told as truth) in our Couch family for way too long... why don't we all just be honest and say 'I think' and not cause any more confusion. A note from David says: I asked Ruth Couch to assist me in researching your John Couch (born: ca. 1750). Ruth and I have spent a number of hours and have come up with a theory and some conclusions. I have attached a draft of our theory. Most of it isn't theory any longer, because Ruth went through boxes of paper records she has collected since the 1960's. We have come to the conclusion that John Couch had only one wife, Mary Polly Boone. Notice how many times he uses the word "theory"... and it is still just that... a "theory: Hope I didn't offend anyone, especially you Vic, but I for one am not buying it. Fay ** On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:48 PM, V Williams wrote: > There are many mistakes made in genology, It was not as easy then as it is today where we sit down in the comfort of our homes. > Much time & $ were spent on travels to Libaraies, courthouses & such. Many times it was spent on the telephone & corrasponding by U.S mail service with a vararity of family & friends, who ever it took to find information you were looking for at the time. > > Here is a correction for such mis-information, conserning the Perry co. Ky Couch family > The supposed 2nd.marriage of John Couch & Elizabeth James Campbell. Dec. 1783 Orange Co NC. > > There are 2 john Couches (b.1750), 1 in Ashe co NC m. Boone. & other in (1745) Orange co NC. > There has been confushion between these 2 men. David & Ruth Couch were able to seperate some un truths or honest mistakes over the years on the inter-net. > John (1750) of Ashe co. m. Boone, NEVER married Orange co NC Elizabeth Campbell Dec 1783 or Mary (Couch) Patterson. > They proved Orange co (1745) John's mother was Mary Couch Patterson from her will 1796. > widow mary couch marries widower john patterson age 60,in orange co nc in 1777. he died april 1787. mary died in feb 1796. provisions of her will state property will be divided amoung the children of john & (deceased) besty (campbell) her grand children ! mary, letitia, july, elenor, elizabeth. all under 18. Mecklenburg co. Va. > john couch marries 2nd to susanna smith oct 1799. john dies july 1823 leaves a will naming wife susanna & son john & letty (letitia), polly (mary), julia (july), ealinor & elizabeth. As you see same children but john must be with new from wife susanna. > > Which proves (1750) John Couch of Ashe co & Ky was NEVERED married to his daughters mother - in-law. Elizabeth Campbell. > > Comment welcomed, > Vic > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KandyBackAgee Surnames: Spencer, Crawford, Rowe Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.perry/5036/mb.ashx Message Board Post: NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON MARTHA ROWE FROM THE MADISON COUNTY (OH) PRESS 6/12/08 Martha Ann Spencer Rowe, 88, of London, OH died June 10, 2008, at her residence. She was born September 14, 1919, in Hazard, KY, the daughter of James and Abbie (Crawford) Spencer. She is survived by her daughter, Brenda Rowe of London, OH; son, Ronald (Ruth) Rowe of West Jefferson, OH; sisters, Lillian Gallatin of Gray's Lake, IL, Clara (Bill) Calhoun of Jackson, OH; granddaughter, Kristy (Roger) Alkire-Cook of London; great-grandchildren, Nathaniel, Nicole and Noah Cook; brother-in-law, George Rowe Jr. of London. She was preceded in death by her parents; husband, Pearl 1977; five brothers; five sisters. A graveside service will be held at 11 a.m. June 17, 2008, at the Deercreek Township Cemetery. The family is being served by the RADER-LYNCH AND DODDS FUNERAL HOME, 124 E. High St., London, OH. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
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Vic, Please clarify who are the parents of Martin Couch who came to KY with father John Couch (which one?) and was the progenitor of a number of Perry County families? Martin's wife was Sarah "Sally" Hall. Thanks, Dona Ritchie In a message dated 6/9/08 3:49:15 PM, Vic writes: > Here is a correction for such mis-information, conserning the Perry co. Ky > Couch family > The supposed 2nd.marriage of John Couch & Elizabeth James Campbell. Dec. > 1783 Orange Co NC. > > There are 2 john Couches (b.1750), 1 in Ashe co NC m. Boone. & other in > (1745) Orange co NC. > There has been confushion between these 2 men. David & Ruth Couch were > able to seperate some un truths or honest mistakes over the years on the > inter-net. > John (1750) of Ashe co. m. Boone, NEVER married Orange co NC Elizabeth > Campbell Dec 1783 or Mary (Couch) Patterson. > They proved Orange co (1745) John's mother was Mary Couch Patterson from > her will 1796. > widow mary couch marries widower john patterson age 60,in orange co nc in > 1777. he died april 1787. mary died in feb 1796. provisions of her will state > property will be divided amoung the children of john & (deceased) besty > (campbell) her grand children ! mary, letitia, july, elenor, elizabeth. all > under 18. Mecklenburg co. Va. > john couch marries 2nd to susanna smith oct 1799. john dies july 1823 > leaves a will naming wife susanna & son john & letty (letitia), polly (mary), > julia (july), ealinor & elizabeth. As you see same children but john must be > with new from wife susanna. > > Which proves (1750) John Couch of Ashe co & Ky was NEVERED married to > his daughters mother - in-law. Elizabeth Campbell. ************** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)
Thanks Carter, I will have to change that Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carter L Combs Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs Paul The Combs Research Group has the children of Long Jerry listed along with possible children and disproven. Byram is not listed. Here is the link. http://www.combs-families.org/combs/families/c-jlong.htm Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul S. Boggs" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs > Glo, > I am showing the parents of Byram Combs to be Jeremiah "Long Jerry" Combs > and Nancy Combs. > Paul S Boggs > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Gloria > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:07 PM > To: Knott > Cc: Perry > Subject: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs > > On my Gibson line Kenus Combs married Nancy Gibson. I have that > Kenus > was the s/o Byram Combs & Hannah Owens. Does anyone know the > parents of this Byram Combs. I don't have parents of Hannah Owens > either. > > glo > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: 6/10/2008 > 5:11 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: 6/10/2008 > 5:11 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1493 - Release Date: 6/9/2008 > 5:25 PM > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: 6/10/2008 5:11 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1497 - Release Date: 6/11/2008 8:32 AM
Paul The Combs Research Group has the children of Long Jerry listed along with possible children and disproven. Byram is not listed. Here is the link. http://www.combs-families.org/combs/families/c-jlong.htm Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul S. Boggs" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs > Glo, > I am showing the parents of Byram Combs to be Jeremiah "Long Jerry" Combs > and Nancy Combs. > Paul S Boggs > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Gloria > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:07 PM > To: Knott > Cc: Perry > Subject: [KYPERRY] Byram Combs > > On my Gibson line Kenus Combs married Nancy Gibson. I have that > Kenus > was the s/o Byram Combs & Hannah Owens. Does anyone know the > parents of this Byram Combs. I don't have parents of Hannah Owens > either. > > glo > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: 6/10/2008 > 5:11 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1495 - Release Date: 6/10/2008 > 5:11 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1493 - Release Date: 6/9/2008 > 5:25 PM >