I have been posting some messages for new subscribers until they get the hang of things. Many have just received a computer for Christmas and are trying to get the hang of things. So when I do a posting for them the email is under my name not theirsm I list their email address in the first line. Some of you have responded back but the mail is coming to me not to the list or to the original researcher. Watch hitting the reply button and if you would answer all inquiries directly to the list using KYOWEN-L@rootsweb.com and if you want cc the originator. I am asking for the replies and on going correspondence, as long as it is not personal messages, to be posted to the list you never know who might find a connection to a name you list in a posting. Thanks for your help and thank you for the great replies I know our new researcher will be happy. Barbara

Vicki: Looks like we have a connection. My MULLEN/MULLIN (originally McMULLEN) family intermarried with the CARR family, and I have Reuben and Mary (Mitchell) CARR in my data. I don't have their descendants but I do have some ancestry on CARR line, back through Reuben's great-grandfather in Virginia. I don't have Mary Mitchell's line, however, my Aunt Blanche in Louisville (wife of my father's brother) was a Mitchell from the Franklin County Mitchells, so it's possible there is a connection there as well. Reuben CARR was born 1874/1875 in Franklin Co KY, the son of James CARR and Sarah TAYLOR, James' second wife. James' first wife was Mary Ann McMULLEN, the sister of my great-grandfather. I am looking forward to exchanging data with you. Merritt mmullen@ridgecrest.ca.us Merritt D. Mullen Ridgecrest, CA > I have only just begun to research my family tree. I really know nothing > about how to begin, but I am certainly going to try. I have a small amount of > info that I recently received from a relative that my mom is in contact with. > The family I am researching on my paternal grandfather's side is Perkins. > They lived in the Moxley/Perry Park area of Owen County. I know that my > great-grandfather was James Perkins, b. January 1872. He was married to Belle > Hawkins, b. May 1872. They had 2 sons - Hobert, b. 21 March 1897, d. 1963 (m. > Lena Carr); and Edward, b. March 1900, d. 1939 (m. Faye Dunavent). Belle also > had a son from her first marriage - Willy D. Wainscott, b. February 1891. My > information states that Belle's parents were William (J. W.), b. March 1843, > and Martha Hawkins, b. June 1843. I know that they are buried in > Squiresville Cemetary. I don't know much more than that. On my grandmother's > side, I am researching the Carr family. My great-grandfather on that side was > Reuben Carr. He was married to Mary Mitchell. Their children were Sarah Carr > Brown, Lena Carr Perkins, James Will Carr, Hiatt Carr, Goebel Carr Osborne, > Tiny Carr Harrell, Alice Carr Ligon, and Phillip Carr. I understand that they > were originally from Franklin County. As I said, I have just started my > research and have a long, long way to go. Wish me luck! If anyone has any > info on these families, I would certainly appreciate an e-mail. I'm at > marshgol4@aol.com. > > Thanks, > Vicki1

This came to me and not to the list in error is was sent by Debbie Dr5249@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- Hi J. W. Hawkins is my great great grandfather. I don't have a whole lot on him, just that is father was listed as coming from Ireland. I do however have some on his wife's side, the Colemans. I also have Belle's siblings if you are interested. Debbie

Quite a few years ago I was in going down the index of the old marriage books located in the Owen Co KY Courthouse. I ran across a William Dennison, married in 1876 in the index. But I could not lacate the actual marriage record. Anyone researching the surname Dennison/Denison in Owen County? Denison, John 1860 Owen Co KY ED 210 New Liberty Page 42 Line 25 --307-296 Denison, John 33 KY Laborer 250, Malinda 32 KY, William 8 KY, John 6 KY, Joseph 4 KY John Denison married Malinda Morrow, daughter of Hiram Morrow. My ancestor is John Denison (showing above at age 6) who married Julia Renick (1) & Sarah Brown (2) and lived in Bourbon Co KY.

Just a quick note to let everyone know we had 9 new members join in December we now have 60+ members. Also thanks to all of you who wrote you Christmas stories, loved the one about the over sized tree. Now that the holiday's are over I will try to get back to adding more material to the '50 census project and add some of the updates to the marriage list that many of you have forward to me. When you all get settled down be sure to post you MOST WANTED missing relative you would line to find in 99 Looking forward to finding more cousins and hearing about your success stories. Barbara

Another new Owen researcher to add to our growing family Vicie marshgol4@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------- I have only just begun to research my family tree. I really know nothing about how to begin, but I am certainly going to try. I have a small amount of info that I recently received from a relative that my mom is in contact with. The family I am researching on my paternal grandfather's side is Perkins. They lived in the Moxley/Perry Park area of Owen County. I know that my great-grandfather was James Perkins, b. January 1872. He was married to Belle Hawkins, b. May 1872. They had 2 sons - Hobert, b. 21 March 1897, d. 1963 (m. Lena Carr); and Edward, b. March 1900, d. 1939 (m. Faye Dunavent). Belle also had a son from her first marriage - Willy D. Wainscott, b. February 1891. My information states that Belle's parents were William (J. W.), b. March 1843, and Martha Hawkins, b. June 1843. I know that they are buried in Squiresville Cemetary. I don't know much more than that. On my grandmother's side, I am researching the Carr family. My great-grandfather on that side was Reuben Carr. He was married to Mary Mitchell. Their children were Sarah Carr Brown, Lena Carr Perkins, James Will Carr, Hiatt Carr, Goebel Carr Osborne, Tiny Carr Harrell, Alice Carr Ligon, and Phillip Carr. I understand that they were originally from Franklin County. As I said, I have just started my research and have a long, long way to go. Wish me luck! If anyone has any info on these families, I would certainly appreciate an e-mail. I'm at marshgol4@aol.com. Thanks, Vicki

Floyd: Do you have any information on Lovina RAZOR, b. 1834/1835, who married Daniel S. CRISWELL, 18 Aug 1887, Owen Co KY, his second wife? As this was probably not the first marriage for Lovina, it is likely that RAZOR was the surname of her previous husband. I would like to know Lovina's maiden name and the names of her parents. Thanks, Merritt mmullen@ridgecrest.ca.us Merritt D. Mullen Ridgecrest, CA > From: Floyd Wainscott <wainscott@centuryinter.net> > Maybe I can be of some help. In researching the name Raisor, have you also > been looking for the spelling "Razor"? I have a few Razor names in my > files and most of them are from the Owen Co, KY area. The name Wainscott > was spelled many different ways, the most common was WINSCOTT. > <snip>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_915291784_boundary Content-ID: <0_915291784@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII This was sent to me in error so I am posting it to the list Barbara --part0_915291784_boundary Content-ID: <0_915291784@inet_out.mail.centuryinter.net.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <wainscott@centuryinter.net> Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v55.5) with SMTP; Fri, 01 Jan 1999 13:57:36 -0500 Received: from mail2.centuryinter.net (mail2.centuryinter.net [209.142.136.252]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id NAA04745 for <RootLines@aol.com>; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pccustom (ppp258.mh.centuryinter.net [209.142.172.97]) by mail2.centuryinter.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22797 for <RootLines@aol.com>; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:57:32 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990101125220.007cf200@mail.ot.centuryinter.net> X-Sender: cen48195@mail.ot.centuryinter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 12:52:20 -0600 To: RootLines@aol.com From: Floyd Wainscott <wainscott@centuryinter.net> Subject: Re: [KYOWEN-L] Raisor,Miller,Washburn,Lindsey ancester's. In-Reply-To: <ceb594a4.368cfcf6@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Maybe I can be of some help. In researching the name Raisor, have you also been looking for the spelling "Razor"? I have a few Razor names in my files and most of them are from the Owen Co, KY area. The name Wainscott was spelled many different ways, the most common was WINSCOTT. Here is a brief on what I have: George RAZOR Mary WARD Mary "Polly" RAZOR (1826 - 1888 Owen Co, KY) m 1835 Owen Co,KY Abraham WAINSCOTT, jr (1815 Owen Co - 1881 Owen Co) George WAINSCOTT Martha Ann WAINSCOTT Mary Elizabeth WAINSCOTT Elizabeth "Lizzie" WAINSCOTT America Katherine WAINSCOTT Fanny RAZOR (1821 Owen Co - 1895) m 1839 Andrew WAINSCOTT (1818 Fayette Co, KY - 1881) Mary F WAINSCOTT James WAINSCOTT Patsey WAINSCOTT William Henry RAZOR (1842 Owen Co - ) m 1865 Ellen J WAINSCOTT (1847 Montgomery Co, IN - ) Ida RAZOR William RAZOR Loulla RAZOR m Milton RAZOR Clarence RAZOR m Sarah Gravite Alfred RAZOR (abt 1800 - ) m 1828 Rachel WAINSCOTT (1783 Rowen Co, NC - ) Isaac RAZOR m 1851 Sarah Ann WAINSCOTT (1830 Owen Co - ) William RAZOR Ocie STILES William RAZOR (1814 KY - 1879) m 1828 Henry Co, KY Catherine WAINSCOTT (abt 1811 KY - 1876) Elizabeth RAZOR (1826 Owen Co - ) m 1848 Joseph WAINSCOTT (abt 1824 - ) Nancy RAZOR (abt 1839 Owen Co - ) m 1877 Isaac I WAINSCOTT (abt 1840 Owen Co - ) I hope that this helps you in some way. Floyd Wainscott >Another new researcher to our growing Owen Co family list. soupnbabe@gdsys.net >(Bill and Lois) >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Hello I am new to the computer,so bear with me. >I am reseachering Raisor,Miller,Washburn,Lindsey ancester's. >Charles Christopher Raisor B-1819 Owen Co.Died in Henry Co. Md. Sara Ann >Miller B-2-15-1833-D-2-27-1910, born in Owen Co. died in Henry Co. >I would appreciate any help on their parents. There no 2 child,Joshua >Fredrick Raisor is my grand father.He was born 9-10-1848 D-6-5-1919.He >was born in Owen Co. died in Henry Co. He was md. two times 1st to Nancy >Jane Ford,then to my Grandmother this her 2nd md. >She was b-9-26-1856 -D-3-30-1917 in Henry Co. >According to Mothers bible her parents were Jol (Joel)Washburn md. To >Catherine Lindsey. >Anything would help >Happy Holidays To All >Bill > > > > >==== KYOWEN Mailing List ==== > >Visit the Owen Co., KY Research web page at, >http://members.aol.com/cliftoncuz/parlor.htm, periodically, since new data is added regularly. > > --part0_915291784_boundary--

Welcome Bill and Lois........... This Owen Co list has been the best thing I've done in all of 1998. Phyllis Researching in OWEN Co. Knox, Shelton, Quisenberry, Lusby

Another new researcher to our growing Owen Co family list. soupnbabe@gdsys.net (Bill and Lois) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hello I am new to the computer,so bear with me. I am reseachering Raisor,Miller,Washburn,Lindsey ancester's. Charles Christopher Raisor B-1819 Owen Co.Died in Henry Co. Md. Sara Ann Miller B-2-15-1833-D-2-27-1910, born in Owen Co. died in Henry Co. I would appreciate any help on their parents. There no 2 child,Joshua Fredrick Raisor is my grand father.He was born 9-10-1848 D-6-5-1919.He was born in Owen Co. died in Henry Co. He was md. two times 1st to Nancy Jane Ford,then to my Grandmother this her 2nd md. She was b-9-26-1856 -D-3-30-1917 in Henry Co. According to Mothers bible her parents were Jol (Joel)Washburn md. To Catherine Lindsey. Anything would help Happy Holidays To All Bill

This was received from sqknittle@yahoo.com (Susan Knittle-Hunter) She is new to our list and the posting came to me wanted to share it with the group ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------- As you can see, I have many lines with roots in Owen County, Kentucky. I am researching AMOS (ANGUS?) ALEXANDER born about 1790 and DOROTHY ? from Virginia, who settled on Owen County, KY. They were the parents of SANDERSON TALTON ALEXANDER born abt 1833 in Owen County, KY. I am researching BARTLETT MASON and wife ELIZABETH SINCLAIR, parents of SANDERSON MASON who married LOUISA ANDERSON and grandparents of SARAH (SALLY) ANN MASON born 11-25-1832 in Owen County, KY. SARAH ANN MASON married SANDERSON TALTON ALEXANDER. I am researching AARON STEPHENSON who married MARY ANN HAMMOND born in 1842, Owen County, KY. They had a daughter, HARRIET FRANCES STEPHENSON born in Owen County, KY. MARY ANN HAMMOND is the daughter of WILLIAM HAMMOND born in 1810, Owen County, KY. I have seen WILLIAM HAMMOND'S wife as Susan?. My information from my great aunt, MARY LOVELLA ALEXANDER DUGGINS, indicates that WILLIAM HAMMOND'S wife was a WAINSCOTT, but I have no first name. Could she be "SUSAN WAINSCOTT"? I am researching WILLIAM LEONARD DUGGINS born in 1880 in Owen County, KY. He was married to CARRIE ADELINE ALEXANDER born 2-14-1881 in Owen County, KY. She was the daughter of SANDERSON TALTON ALEXANDER JR.(son of SANDERSON TALTON ALEXANDER AND SARAH ANN MASON), born 7-4-1854 in Owen County, KY. and HARRIET FRANCES STEPHENSON. The son of WILLIAM LEONARD DUGGINS and CARRIE ADELINE ALEXANDER, LOUIS DENZEL DUGGINS born 7-20-1905 in Moberly County, Randolph, MO, was my grandfather. I would appreciate any information that you may have and I am willing to share everything that I have on any of these lines. Thank you. SUSAN QUENTINE KNITTLE-HUNTER

Dear Family, First of all, I want to wish all of you the best of holidays. It has been wonderful to find all of you and to add you to my family. It has been a most abundant year for that. I want to tell all of you of my memories of an Owen County Christmas. I was born and raised in Lexington, but on Christmas we always went "home". After getting up very early and opening presents, it was time to get ready and go to "Mama's". We would get dressed up for that 1 and a half hour drive. Usually it was cold, but no snow to remember. I would be dressed up in my coat and matching leggings. For those "kids" who don't remember, leggings were long tight pants to match your coat that zipped up at the legs to keep you warm. We would then drive to my grandmother's in Sparta. Then we would go to my great aunt and uncle's out on Lewis Lane in Owen Co. The old house had frame on the outside, but it was an old log house with a fireplace, pot bellied stove, and in the kitchen a warm morning stove. There was enough food to feed an army. And usually enough family to make up a small army. The children were fed in the kitchen, to get them out of the way. Then the men would all sit down and eat with the women feeding and visiting at the same time. Then the women would eat after the men, usually sitting in their husband's place. While the women ate, the men would discuss politics, farm prices, and the usual "men talk". The women would sit for quite a while discussing the children, latest fashions, and gossip. The kids (what few of us there were) would be off and running "like wild Indians". Dishes were done and the women would join the men. This was as much a tradition as Christmas. When I was 12 we moved to Florida. It was very hard on me, to pick up and leave all of the kids that I had known all of my life. I still keep in touch with some of them. But move, we did. When I was 14 we went home to Ky. for Christmas. When I was asked what I wanted for Christmas, I told my parents that all I wanted was to see it snow. I had never remembered seeing it snow for Christmas. You should have heard what my Dad said!!!!! None of it repeatable on the net, to say the least. After all, we had no snow tires or chains. No problem until we got to Lexington. Then it started to snow. By the time we got halfway between Frankfort and Owenton, you could hardly see. And guess who got the blame for it? I think one of the most beautiful sites I remember was going down the hills to go into Sparta when the old road was there. It was a winding, twisting drive, but the trees were so heavy with snow that it looked like an ice cave. It was beautiful. And I can see it as if it happened just yesterday. I got to sleep by the fireplace the whole time we were there. And the snow stayed on the ground the whole trip. And the family tradition of dinner at my great aunt's continuted just as if we had never been gone. Two years later my aunt, uncle, and grandmother moved to Florida. I have not been back for a Christmas since. And all of the family except for my aunt, mother, and the kids are gone. But there has never been a Christmas that goes by that I don't relive in my mind and my heart the Christmases in Owen Co. God Bless and Merry Christmas to us all. Love, Judy Estes Lawrence

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% SECOND KENTUCKY AFFECTIONATELY NICKNAMED THEM THEIR 'BULL PUPS' %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "No gun is so well suited in all respects to the wants of our cavalry, as these little guns," said Confederate General Basil Duke of the mountain howitzers he utiliized, while riding with General John Hunt Morgan's raids in the western theater. These little cannons were light enough to be pulled rapidly on raids with just one horse, or pushed for long distances on the battlefield by just a few soldiiers. An added advantage, said Duke, was that they produced "a great deal more noise than one would expect from their size and appearance." The men with Duke's Second Kentucky Cavalry were quite fond of their two little guns, and affectionately nicknamed them their "bull pups." %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% DEO VINDICE!

Pathtree@aol.com wrote: > > Merritt, > > Winscott was a common variation of Wainscott and the name was often > pronounced Winscott even in my day. Rebecca was a Roberts and her mother was > Sally Smith, daughter of Joseph Smith. Sally later married Isaac C. Wainscott. > Rebecca's father might have been Henley-she had a son named Henley Claxon. > > Barry Oh boy! Maybe you can help me straighten out my records. I have always shown Callisthenes Claxon as having two wives, both named Rebecca: Rebecca ROBERTS and Rebecca WINSCOTT. Various correspondants have disagreed about the order of the two wives. Here is the way I have it: First: Callisthenes married about 1806 to Rebecca ROBERTS, the daughter of Henry ROBERTS and Sarah SMITH. Sarah was the daughter of Joseph SMITH and Leannah. Sarah married (2) Isaac WINSCOTT. By his first wife, Callisthenes had six children: Mariah, William, Malinda, Sarah, James, John. These children were born over the 1806-1822 time period. Second: Callisthenes married, in 1822, Rebecca WINSCOTT. An extract from the Owen Co KY marriage register has "CLAXON, Callestiness to Rebeccah Winscot, March 25, 1822. Bond: Isaac Winscott. Letter of consent from Sally Winscot, mother of the bride. Married by Cornelius Duvall." According to the Owen Co death records, Rebecca was age 48 when she died in 1854, making her birth in 1805/1806. She would have been only 16 years old when she married Callisthenes, which is why she needed the letter of consent from her mother (Callisthenes was 36 in 1822). With his second wife, Callisthenes had seven additional children: Joseph, Charles, Nancy, Lucinda, Henly, Thomas, and Harrison. These children were born over the 1823-1837 time period. Can you provide any corrections to what I have above? Thanks for your help. Merritt

I suspect "Winscott" may be a variant spelling of "Wainscott." If so, perhaps you Wainscott researchers may know something of Rebeccah WINSCOTT, b. c1806 Scott Co KY, d. 1854 Owen Co KY; married Callisthenes CLAXON in 1822 Owen Co KY. I would like to know who Rebeccah's parents were (I believe her mother was Sally). Merritt mmullen@ridgecrest.ca.us Merritt D. Mullen Ridgecrest, CA

Just yesterday I was helping out at a business function in Cincinnati, a "Santa" station where the kids could come to talk to the "Man in Red". We were enjoying the 71 degree weather, with kids in shorts, and motorcycles and top-down convertibles going by. It seemed really dysfunctional to all concerned, though none of us complained too loudly. I went around the yard and found flowers on my forsythia bushes, and some marigold seeds have actually sprouted in my garden due to the recent heat wave! But it brought back memories of a newlywed couple sharing their first married Christmas in Hawaii. We were stationed there for almost three years. One year we had to call home and ask them to rush blankets over to us, as the temperature had hit a record low of 56 degrees. None of the houses or apartments had furnaces, and you could not buy blankets there. Time goes by so quickly. My wife and I are about to celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary, our oldest son graduated from college in June, and our youngest son with his new drivers license drops by on occasion to let us know he is still around. I just wanted to say Merry Christmas from the new Lusby homestead in Morningview, Kentucky, on the banks of the Licking River. It has been a pleasure talking to my new-found cousins that I have discovered on the net, and look forward to many more years of pleasant conversation and serendipitous discoveries. May God bless all of you in your homes this holiday season. Bary and Chris Lusby

A great way to find just about any town in the US is to visit http://maps.yahoo.com, or go to http://www.yahoo.com and click on "maps" in the top banner. Hope you find it! Date forwarded: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:16:03 -0800 (PST) Date sent: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:20:09 -0500 From: cay@cyberstreet.com (Carol Mann) Send reply to: cay@cyberstreet.com Organization: O.K. Subject: [KYOWEN-L] Bethany, KY To: KYOWEN-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: KYOWEN-L@rootsweb.com > Does anyone know where Bethany, KY is located? Is it in Owen County or > perhaps Bath County. Still researching the Yarborough/Yarbrough family > of Owen County as well as the Bell and Daniels family - any information > would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Cay Yarbrough Mann > > > ==== KYOWEN Mailing List ==== > If you are unsubscribed from the Owen Co. list unintentionally, simply > resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be unsubscribed. > > Steven E. Cull cull@i.am (relayed to steven.cull@pcs-inet.com) http://i.am/cull or http://www.pcs-inet.com/blueelf/index.htm Family History CULL: Moscoe,Breeden,Crawford,Ball,Morgan,Cockrell GADDIE: Duffer,Nelson,Skaggs,Sherron

Thanks to all of you nice folk who told me about Bethany - maybe that will help me find my grandparents marriage records - one of the great benefits of doing the family genealogy is the willingness of so many people willing to help each other - Cay Yarbrough Mann

Does anyone know where Bethany, KY is located? Is it in Owen County or perhaps Bath County. Still researching the Yarborough/Yarbrough family of Owen County as well as the Bell and Daniels family - any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Cay Yarbrough Mann

I grew up in Greenup Co., KY on a farm the first 10 years, then into a small town. One of the things I remember about Christmas was that the Christmas tree had to be gotten, fully decorated!!, out the door onto the lawn, on a sunny day, of course, to take the picture for that year. No indoor pictures in the dark ages.!! At least it didn't have to be taken back in.............. I still have that box camera from when we cleaned out and sold Mother's home. And the small set (12" long) of eight plastic reindeer and a sleigh. I took great pains to put in out each year as a child. Had I only gotten one thing from the estate, that set would have been my choice. Saw it in an antique store not long ago----was worth a penny or two!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember at all what was cooked for the dinner, but do remember the year our first turkey was cooked..I was about 14-15 years old. As far as I know that was the only one my Mother ever cooked. Too much grease, she said. Mind you, we fried everything--in lard, from the hog!!! But the turkey as too fatty!!!!!! I don't think we ever went to a grandmother's house for Christmas dinner -- but usually overnight at Easter time. ...........................Wishing you the joy of Christmas throughout the whole year.................... Phyllis Counts Raker, Cincinnati