This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Barry_Ashby Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7340.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks to all who replied. Joe Taylor replied off-board. (Thanks again, Joe.) If interested, here is the family of Louis C. Morton's wife, MARY ALICE ROWE 1853 - 1920. Her father, William Phipps Rowe 1822 - 1890 owned a farm northwest of Centertown, Ohio County, Kentucky. As always, updates and corrections are welcome. Barry 1. WILLIAM PHIPPS4 ROWE (EDMUND3, GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born 28 Nov 1822 in Ohio County, Kentucky, and died 19 Jun 1890 in Ohio County, Kentucky. He married EMALINE RENDER 01 Jun 1843 in Ohio County, Kentucky, daughter of JOSHUA RENDER and MARY JACKSON. She was born 1824 in Ohio County, Kentucky, and died 1891 in Ohio County, Kentucky. Notes for WILLIAM PHIPPS ROWE: !1850 Census of Kentucky, Ohio Co, District 2, page 62, stop 161. !1860 Census of Kentucky, Ohio Co, Dexters, page 15, stop 105. !1870 Census of Kentucky, Ohio Co, Centerville, page 13 (stamped 365), stop 92. !1880 Census of Kentucky, Ohio Co, Centertown, ED 181, page 21 (stamped 555), stop 185. Children of WILLIAM ROWE and EMALINE RENDER are: i. ALPHONZO G.5 ROWE, b. 1846, Ohio County, Kentucky. ii. MARTIN H. ROWE, b. 1848, Ohio County, Kentucky. iii. AMANDA A. ROWE, b. 1849, Ohio County, Kentucky. iv. MARY ALICE ROWE, b. Nov 1853, Ohio County, Kentucky; d. 1920, Centertown, Ohio County, Kentucky, m. LOUIS CASS MORTON 19 Oct 1873 in Ohio County, Kentucky. v. WILLIAM C. ROWE, b. 1859, Ohio County, Kentucky. vi. LAURA A. ROWE, b. 1862, Ohio County, Kentucky. vii. ALVIN ROWE, b. 1865, Ohio County, Kentucky; m. ICEPHENIA RENDER, 1889, Jefferson County, Kentucky; b. 1865, Ohio County, Kentucky. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Barry_Ashby Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Linda, Sorry you feel bad about posting a query on this board. I might have been a little too rough with my responses. But this kind of message board banter (er debate) is healthy. This is exactly how facts are uncovered. Just be aware that sometimes one has to make an educated guess or two before letting in the cold hard facts. Let the facts either prove or disprove your educated guess (er theory). Despite what you may think, I LOVE to be proven wrong. (The key word being "proven".) I honestly wish you luck in finding the true parents of Isaac Jackson Goff 1830 - 1915 and the photograph of your grandmother. (Hint for Isaac: Focus on the records of Grayson County, Kentucky.) If you discover something new about Isaac, please share it with the readers of this Ohio County message board. Please, please do prove my theory about your Goff ancestors wrong. I'll be POLITELY waiting. Thanks for the touchups. Take care, Barry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: linwilliams50 Surnames: Goff/Howard Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7341/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I want to apologize to all who may have read my post on Goff/Howard. I was not trying to get a big debate going on who was right or who was wrong. I was only hoping maybe someone would have a picture of my grandmother. All I have proof that are in my family tree is from Issac Jackson Goff b.1830.His son Robert was my grandfather. but as to who is Issac J. Goff parents I still have no proof of that. That is what I am working on now. again I'm sorry. I do want to thank everyone for their help in my research.If it wasn't for all the help I have received from other researchers I wouldn't have a lot of what I have. Thank you Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: linwilliams50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Berry I like you go where the evidence is.and right now I haven't any proff that Issac is the son of William Robert Goff and Rhoda Shelton. So I haven't added then to my family tree. Issac Gough b.2-1-1795 d.unknowm m.Poly Runner 0n 12-07-1818 in Warren co.(according to marriage record I have.) Children of the above= William,John,James,Hartford,Elizabeth,Issac Jackson,Calvin, Poly Ann,Hugh. Issac Jackson Goff b.9-24-1830 d.10-02-1915 m.Mary Jane Alford on 10-26-1852 then married Mary Elizabeth Birdwel Neafus on 7-21-1904(according to marriage record that was in Issac Jackson Cilvil war record.) Robert Weekley Goff b.11-03-1874 d.2-20-1939 m. Sarah Caroline Howard b.11-02-1877 d.11-30-1917 Avery Goff b.1-24-1912 d.9-19-1999 married Dimple Cockrel on 1-07-1931. She was born 1-16-1915 and died 1-08-1958. Avery and Dimple are my parents. as for cences records I have then also. I don't ad anything to my files till I know for sure it goes there.If I can't prove it then I want use it. I'm just sorry I even put a message on the board I was only trying to find info not a debate as to who was right or wrong. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BetsyOhio Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7340.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Barry, Correction - Garner was Thomas' mother, not father. I found in 1850 Ohio Co. Thomas Morton age 75 b PA Garner age 73 b VA they were living next door to Thomas and Nancy. Betsy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BetsyOhio Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7340.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Barry, Info below from his death certificate: Lewis Cass Morton b Jan 24, 1850 d April 22, 1941 parents: Thomas R. Morton b unkwn and Nancy Rhoads b unkwn informant was Mrs. Emma Smith also from Mary Alice Rown Morton's d/c Mary Alice Morton b Oct 19, 1853 d Nov 30, 1920 parents: Wm. Phipps Rown b KY and Emaline Render b KY informant was E. M. Morton 1860 Ohio Co. census Thomas Morton household Thomas 49 Nancy 46 Elizabeth 25 Mary Ann 23 William E. 20 Ross 17 Richard 14 Samuel 12 Lewis 10 Vega B. 8 Cynthia 6 Thomas M. 4 Nancy 2mo Garner 85 (I assume he is Thomas' father) hope this helps, Betsy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Barry_Ashby Surnames: Morton, Rowe, Render, OFlynn, Haley, Smith Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7340/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone have further information on this LEWIS CASS MORTON ? L. C. Morton's farm was located north of Centertown, Ohio County, Kentucky, near Walton Creek Church. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Barry 1. LEWIS CASS4 MORTON (THOMAS ROSS3, THOMAS B.2, RICHARD1) was born 24 Jan 1850 in Kentucky. He married MARY ALICE ROWE 19 Oct 1873 in Ohio County, Kentucky, daughter of WILLIAM PHIPPS ROWE and EMALINE RENDER. She was born Nov 1852 in Ohio County, Kentucky. Children of LEWIS MORTON and MARY ROWE are: i. ERNIE MANSFIELD5 MORTON, b. Aug 1878, Ohio County, Kentucky; d. Nov 1942, Ohio County, Kentucky; m. MARY P. O'FLYNN, 1905, Ohio County, Kentucky; b. 1882, Daviess County, Kentucky; d. 1967, Ohio County, Kentucky. (Mary P. Flynn's parents are: FERDINAND O'FLYNN 1854 - 1929 and RACHEL ELIZABETH "LIZZIE" HALEY 1858 - 1924.) ii. NANCY E. MORTON, b. Apr 1885, Ohio County, Kentucky; m. DR. LUTHER G. SMITH, 1909, Ohio County, Kentucky; b. 1878, Kentucky. His parents are unknown. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Barry_Ashby Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Regarding your statement: "Barry, I just don't think everything I have (on the Goff's) is wrong." Linda, Pardon my TV lingo, but just like a CSI investigator, I go where the evidence takes me. And right now census evidence is taking me on this lineage path. (See immediately below.) If you can prove this path is erroneous, I will gladly change my database. Just present your case on this board for all to evaluate. William (GOUGH) Goff and Rhonda Shelton Isaac (GOUGH) Goff, Sr. b. 1795 and Mary E. "Polly Reynolds Isaac Jackson Goff, Jr. 1830 - 1915 and Mary Jane Alford Robert W. Goff 1874 - 1939 and Sarah Caroline Howard Avery Goff 1912 - 1999 and (Name withheld - spouse might still be living.) !1860 Census of Kentucky, Warren Co, District 2 - Bowling Green, page 80, stop 55: GOFF, Isaac, 29, b. KY, farmer. GOFF, Mary, 26, b. KY. GOFF, Mary, 7, b. KY. GOFF, Isaac, 2, b. KY. !1870 Census of Kentucky, Ohio Co, Caney, page 4 (stamped 344), stop 29: GOFF, Isaac J., 39, b. KY, farmer. GOFF, Mary J., 36, b. KY. GOFF, Frances, 16, b. KY. GOFF, Isaac J, 12, b. KY. GOFF, Sarah E., 9, b. KY. GOFF, Josephine C., 5, b. KY. GOFF, Calvin J., 1 month old, b. KY. !1880 Census of Kentucky, Butler Co, Burdens, ED 109, page 47 (stamped 387), stop 462: GOFF, Isaac J., 49, b. KY, parents b. VA, farmer. GOFF, Mary J, 46, b. KY, parents b. VA. GOFF, Josephine C., b. KY. GOFF, James C., 10, b. KY. GOFF, Robert W., 5, b. KY. Further Census hits of your target - Robert W. Goff: !1900 Census of Kentucky, Butler Co, Fleenerville, ED 31, sheet 4 (stamped 250), stop 68. Residing next door at stop 67 is Robert's father-in-law, William Howard. !1910 Census of Kentucky, Butler Co, Magisterial District 5, ED 39, sheet 2 (stamped 261), stop 41. For your information, whenever my information is challenged, I simply add some words to that effect into my notes and move on. I often use wording that goes something like this, "Mr. Smith has challenged my information on Zebulon Ashby. He believes Zeb is not the son of Ezekial Ashby 1812 - 1878. Instead he believes Zeb is the son of Thaddeus S. Ashby 1815 - 1900." Barry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lrmbjb Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Barry, Thank's very much for checking your records for me. This Ohio Co. board is blessed to have so many well informed and helpful people. Could it have something to do with their ancestry? (grin) Thanks again. LRM Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Barry_Ashby Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lynn, The answer to your question is: yes. I have some information on some of those surnames you mentioned. Please understand my database is very limited. While I do have 95 FULKERSON names, most are Fulkerson's with Ohio County connections. I have just one FAITH surname in my database - NORMA FAITH who m. Thomas J. Geary. If you are looking to fill some gaps in your records, I suggest you post queries on this message board and/or the message boards of neighboring counties - Butler, Muhlenberg, McLean, Daviess, Hancock, Breckinridge, and Grayson. By the way, the key to getting help from board readers is to be as specific as you can while revealing everything you have. (Hold nothing back. Show all your cards to everyone.) And don't be shy about beginning a new thread. Just keep the subject line simple. Barry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: linwilliams50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Berry my e-mail address is lswilliams@bardstowncable.net.I just don't think everything I have is wrong. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: linwilliams50 Surnames: Goff/Howard Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There Are four Issac: Issac Goff b.2-11-1795=married Polly Runner Issac Jackson Goff b.9-24-1830=married Mary J. Alford then Mary Elizabeth Birdwell Neafus Issac Jackson Goff jr. b.5-14-1858=married Hester Ann Vison Issac J. Goff b.2-1-1846 d.8-01-1865=son of william and Polly Green as for who signed the death cerf, it was Virgil Goff. I have copy of Issac and Polly marriage reg. and you are right things are very confussing when it comes to researching.I'm sure some thing I have are wrong. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Barry_Ashby Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks to everyone who responded. This one is confusing! Hopefully, together, we can correctly reconstruct this GOFF tribe. Right now, Isaac Jackson Goff, Jr. 1830 - 1915 appears to be the sticking point. Who, exactly, were his parents? Were they Isaac Goff and Polly Reynolds? Or were they William Henry Goff and Polly Green? Or were they Henry Goff and Mary Wilson? Could his (Isaac Jackson Goff 1830 - 1915) death certificate informant have inadvertently given the coroner some wrong information? Hmmm? Fact: A Mr. Isaac Jackson Goff was indeed b. 1847 in Grayson County, KY, son of William Henry Goff 1819 - 1881 and Mary Louisa "Polly" Green. Not sure, but I think this Isaac Goff b. 1847 KY was named after his, grandfather, Isaac Goff, Sr. b. Abt. 1795. Two census records clearly show Isaac Jackson Goff's birth year as 1847 - NOT 1830! [Ref: 1850 Grayson Co Census, page 75, stop 1018 and 1860 Grayson Co Census, page 90, stop 588. See the family of William Goff.] Methinks a few researchers have confused the above Isaac Jackson Goff b. 1847 KY with his uncle - Isaac Jackson Goff b. 1829/30. I think the uncle (Isaac Jackson Goff 1830 - 1915) is the one who married Mary J. Alford and Mary E. Neafus. (See below.) Your thoughts, please? Here's what I have on all these Isaac Goff's. If you sincerely believe my information is dead wrong, please let me know. Of course, I'd like to see your tree version. FYI, I always correct errors. 1 Isaac Goff, Sr. 1795 - ..m. Mary E. "Polly" (Runner?) Reynolds 1799 - .....2 William Henry Goff 1819 - 1881 (lived out his entire life in Grayson Co, KY) .........m. Mary Louisa "Polly" Green 1817 - .............3 Isaac Jackson Goff 1846/47 - .....*2nd Wife of William Henry Goff: .........m. Phoebe Anderson 1838 - 1907 .....2 John P. Goff 1823 - .........m. Margaret Byers 1823 - .....2 James. Goff 1824 - .....2 Hartford Goff 1826 - .....2 Elizabeth Goff 1828 - .....2 Isaac Jackson Goff, Jr. 1830 - 1915 .........m. Mary J. Alford 1834 - 1903 .............3 Isaac Jackson Goff III .....*2nd Wife of Isaac Jackson Goff, Jr.: .........m. Mary Elizabeth Neafus 1853 - .....2 Calvin James Goff 1833 - .........m. Rachel Bratcher 1836 - .............3 Isaac Henry Goff 1856 - .................m. Sarah C. ? 1883 - .....2 Mary Ann "Polly" Goff 1835 - .....2 Hugh Goff 1837 - Barry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nrgoodman51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have his dob as 9-9-1830. Is that what they have on his death cert.? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: linwilliams50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you that is what my copy also says. So thank you again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: oembry41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Death Certificates Jackson Goff b/ Sept. 24, 1829, Ky. d/ Sept. 14, 1915, Spring Lick, Grayson Co., Ky. father, Henry Goff mother, Mary Willson buried, Carter Cem., Sept. 15, 1915 ------------------------------------------------- Robert Goff b/ Nov. 5, 1874, Ky. d/ Feb. 20, 1939, Rosine, Ohio Co., Ky. father, Jackson Goff mother, Miss House wife, Caroline Howard informant, Oden Goff, Echols, Ky. buried, Green B(rer) ? cem. Feb. 21, 1939 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: linwilliams50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That is what is on his death cert. I have his parents as Issac Goff and Polly Runner. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nrgoodman51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have the parents of Isaac Jackson Goff as Isaac Goff and Mary Polly Reynolds. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: linwilliams50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Issac Jackson Goff was married twice= first to a Mary Jane Alford Oct.26,1852 she died Dec.29,1903 they had seven children. He married Mary Elizabeth Neafus July 21,1904. ON death cerf. it list his father as Henry Goff his mother as Mary Willson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lrmbjb Surnames: Goff Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.ohio/7339.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Barry and linwilliams50 Found the following and just wondered if if "fits" in ?? 1900 Grayson - (Heritage) Jack Goff 69 Sept. 1830 Ky Va Va Mary A. 69 ? June 1834 Ky Va Va Married = 48 yrs 9 kids 4 living 1910 Grayson Isaac J. Goff 80 KY Ky Ky ??? Mary E. 57 Married = 5 years Both married = Twice 2 kids & 2 living If same, Isaac Jackson "Jack" Goff's first wife Mary must have died after 1900 census then he married again and she had two kids by first marriage. Ky death cert. rootsweb index. Jackson Goff died = Grayson Co., Ky. Age = 85 Date died = Sept. 14, 1915 Cert. = 21795 (If lucky, the cert.might give parents) ------------------------------------------ Barry, Do you maybe have any info on the Wall, Faith, McFarland, Fulkerson lines of Daviess/Mclean (Ohio Co. before 1815) ???? LRM Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.