I believe I have a picture of Peter Mann in civil war uniform from an old album given to a friend of mine. Was he in the war? This was with Ogden, Askins, Kabler family pictures from Milford-Santa Fe Bracken co. area. jim dempsey At 05:47 AM 9/4/99 -0700, you wrote: >KYNICHOL-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 210 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [KYNICHOL] John MANN of Nichol ["charles r. carter" <cartercr@rma.] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from KYNICHOL-D, send a message to > > KYNICHOL-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:35:36 -0400 >From: "charles r. carter" <cartercr@rma.edu> >To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <199909031835.OAA27405@smtp.rma.edu> >Subject: Re: [KYNICHOL] John MANN of Nicholas Co., KY >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Dear Michele, > >Just as we have an abundance of Elizabeths confounding the problem below, >Nicholas Co. is replete with Mann descendants, but there is a dearth of >respondents willing to come up on line. > >I feel that there is only one John Mann, Sr. to contend with...to prove that >absolutely is a different story. Only one is in evidence in Nicholas Co >1800-1846). > >What is the proof that Angeline, Mary & Catherine were daughters of >Elizabeth Mann Davis? > >John Mann, Sr.'s household certainly included "extras" in most census years! >James, Milton & Fanny, to mention another set of grandchildren whose lineage >is open to debate. Until I can check the 1820-Clinton Co., OH census, the >following is a theory for 1810 extras in John Mann's household: > > Elizabeth Mann, d/o Jacob & Catherine McDaniel Mann (& other children >of this couple). Jacob went to Ohio c. 1810, but his family did not >accompany him at that time. Don't know when they joined him... > >Dorothy Knoff's explanation seems to stretch my arithmetic a bit, but hard >evidence is hard to come by. > >I am a descendant of John Mann, Sr. through his son Charles. > >Mary MANN Carter >Front Royal, VA (resident of Carlisle, Nicholas Co., KY 1936-1967) > > >At 11:45 AM 8/28/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >>I need help proving my husband's MANN line. He is descended from Elizabeth >>Mann b. ca 1805 KY. Elizabeth had at least 3 illegitimate children: Angeline >>(his ancestor), Catharine, and Mary. Elizabeth married David DAVIS 13 Apr >>1846 Nicholas Co., KY. >> >>I believe Elizabeth's parents were John MANN & Elizabeth JONES of Nicholas >>Co, but I don't know how to prove it. >> >>Here is what I know of this family & why I have arrive at this conclusion: >> >>1. Elizabeth's marriage bond states she was the daughter of John Mann Sr. of >>Nicholas Co. >> >>2. In the 1840 Nicholas Co census, there were only 2 John Mann's: John who >>m. Elizabeth Jones and their son, John Jr. In the 1850 Nicholas Co census, >>Elizabeth (Jones) Mann is living in her son Samuel's household. John Sr. >>died 17 Oct 1846. >> >>3. In the 1810 Nicholas Co census, after accounting for John & Elizabeth >>Mann's known children, there are 2 additional females aged 10-16 and one >>female aged 0-10. >> >>4. Elizabeth (Mann) Davis' daughter Mary & Catharine Mann are living in her >>household in the 1850 Nicholas Co census. Daughter Angeline (age 13) and a >>David Mann (age 18) are in the household of Reuben D. & Mary Hall. This >>Reuben is probably the son of Reuben D. Hall & Anny Mann. Anny was the >>daughter of John Mann & Elizabeth Jones. >> >>All of this supports Elizabeth Mann as the daughter of John Mann & Elizabeth >>Jones. However, "The Family of Four Frontiers" states that Mary, David, >>Catharine and Angeline were the children of Jacob Mann & Mary Peyton. I have >>not seen this source personally (can't find it anywhere), but another >>researcher has given me the details. This Jacob Mann was the son of Peter >>MANN & Barberry JONES and the nephew of John Mann & Elizabeth Jones. >> >>The information I have shows that Elizabeth (Mann) Davis was the daughter of >>John Mann Sr. I also have proof that Angeline Mann was the daughter of >>Elizabeth (Mann) Davis. I know of 2 researchers who have similar proof that >>the same Mary & Catharine Mann stated in above source as children of Jacob >>Mann were children of Elizabeth (Mann) Davis. >> >>Based on the information I have compiled, I am reasonably certain that >>Angeline Mann was the daughter of Elizabeth (Mann) Davis who was the >>daughter of John Mann Sr. of Nicholas Co., KY. How do I prove that this John >>Mann Sr is the John Mann who married Elizabeth Jones? >> >>Thank you, >> >>Michele Colson >>macolson@pacbell.net >> >