Looking for info on Family of Nettie Gray who married Jefferson Jolly in Nicholas County, KY in 1903. Kids were: Harvey Richard Married Lillian Hunt Early Thomas Married Mattie Shields Rettie Jessie Married George Mitchell Lillie Married Edgar George Ernest Howard 2nd Husband Millard Gray Kids: Katherine William Millard Thomas Raymond Emma Sue Oliver George Kenneth Ray Died: 1997 Ewing,KY Can anyone help? Jim

Looking for info on Willie Morgan & Bertie Gray. Her Father & Mother was. Millard Clinton Gray & Margaret Ellen Smart in KY Kids were: Edgar Mary Ellen Anna Fay Dorothy Jean Christine Can any one help? Jim Gray, Whitaker, Hopkins, Adkins

Hi all- I'm working on the following Nicholas County surnames: Hawkins Small Shulse Coffman Boyd Powell Bowen Glad to trade info with potential cousins. Cathy Hawkins Hawkins Genealogy at Cathy's Place http://members.tripod.com/~Cathleen_H/index.html

For those of you who do not rec. Sandi's KY Research, I am forwarding this on. I think that it is most interesting...e a great day... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- TIP #258 - TOBACCO Being an Illinois transplant to the Commonwealth of Kentucky, I had no idea of what was involved in the early days of raising the primary crop of tobacco. Now a controversial subject, tobacco however is one of the major, if not the major, crops of Kentucky. Many improvements have been made during the passage of time, but our early ancestors followed primarily what they had done back in Virginia and other tobacco-producing states. Virginia had stumbled into tobacco thanks to John Rolfe in 1612 by learning to cure tobacco so that the white man could enjoy smoking it - unlike the Indian tobacco which was bitter and of a rough texture. Needing an income quickly, many Virginia settlers turned to tobacco as the base of their economic survival. They immediately invested most of what they had into this new crop - tobacco. It was such a base of economy that even ministers, doctors and tax collectors were paid in tobacco. The records are scant if not non-existent on how the first Americans grew their tobacco but in Maryland and Virginia primarily, a set routine was used, much of which is still used today. The following description would refer to the earlier days of tobacco raising in Virginia but much applies to Kentucky. Tobacco seed is finer than dust and has to be sown in "new" ground in January. By late May the little seedlings are set in rows in the field and watered plant by plant as they are replanted. Weeds have to be removed and many slaves spent the entire tobacco season with their makeshift hoes working the tobacco beds. By the end of July, during the hottest part of the season, flower buds appear at the top of the 5 foot tall stalks. These had to be removed by hand, also by the slaves. By late August, the plants, still bright green, are cut off close to the ground and their butts are paled on slender sticks, 5 plants to a stick. An iron point is slipped on the stick and the sticks are hung so the tobacco hangs head down in barns. They are allowed to cure until early winter (or earlier depending upon the climate). When the curing time has been completed, the leaves are stripped off the stalks and called - this is known as grading. They are carefully bunched into fan-shaped, flat "hands". These are stacked about 30 inches high and stored until the following summer. The tobacco is then packed into hogsheads for shipment. Hogsheads are drums made of straight staves, loosely fitted and hooped with split saplings. A hogshead is about 5 feet in diameter and as many feet long. It is packed with as many "hands" as it can hold, placed in a horizontal screw press (a prize) and the contents of two casks, each of the same size as the hogshead, are forced in on top of the original packing. This could weigh as much as 750-800 pounds. A cask of tobacco weights only 500 pounds. There are improvements to the process now but in the beginning this was the normal routine. William Daniel Tolle, who wrote under the pen name of Ellot, of Barren County, KY states that most of the tobacco grown in the south central part of Kentucky was transported to New Orleans by flat boat. He also notes that the field into which the tobacco seed was to be planted had to be "well broken" with all loose roots and other obstructions carefully removed. The standard size was 3 1/2 feet wide and a good "hill" was made in which the plant was set. The field was plowed by hand and was done in the heat of the day when the leaves were wilted from the sun. When the tobacco was ready for harvest it was "ripe" and a sharp knife was used to cut the tobacco as described above. A decision had to be made to ascertain if the tobacco was ripe - by doubling the leaf between the thumb and finger. If the left broke easily it was ripe. The tobacco was left in the field to wilt piled into a stack by the hill. When it was wilted sufficiently, they were carried to a scaffold carefully, the stack could not be broken. Sometimes the farmer piled the tobacco on a slide and pulled it to the scaffold where it was hung as described above. It was the norm that the scaffold piles generally pointed east and west so the noon day sun would shine down between the sticks of tobacco which were hung 8-10 inches apart. Tolle states also that the plant beds were often made in the woods and covered with brush. The tobacco was seldom ready then before Christmas unless it was cured by fire. In the latter, ditches were dug in the dirt floor of the barn and green wood such as beech and sugar tree were excellent slow burners after the wood was fired. To fill a hanging stick with tobacco, the farmer sometimes sat down and held the stick with one hand. He took a leaf in the other hand and pushed it through the sharp point of the stick, use the other hand to grab another left and proceed this way until the stick was filled. Tobacco, according to Tolle, was stripped during the damp weather of winter. It was thought that it required the March winds to dry and season it sufficiently to withstand the transportation on the rivers to New Orleans. When the tobacco was dried sufficiently, the tobacco was taken down and bulked for prizing. This always had to be done during the coming of a damp spell of weather. Many times this required working at night with someone in a "watch tower" alerting the farmers that the season was coming in. Alarms sounded and everyone strong enough or old enough had to awaken and head off at a dead run to the tobacco barn. The stalks had to be taken down with the stems would crack one third the way down to the leaf. It could be laid down in the barn on the stick at night and bulked the next day. It was left to prize next March. There was always a tide in May which was the last chance the farmers could ship their tobacco for the year. There was an old expression, per Tolle, that "there would always be a Maytide if it did not come until June." Prizing was done by finding a tree which was straight from the ground. A hole was morticed large enough to hold a large tenon which was cut on the end of a beam. The beam was about 10-12 inches square; the tenon was placed in the mortice through the tree. A slot was cut in the front end of the beam so a sword could be placed through it. Holes were made through the sword for pins to hold the beam at any height desired. The end of the sword was fastened in a log 8-10 feet long and 20-24 inches in diameter - this was called the weight. At the end of the beam a large forked sapling was planted; over this fork a sweep pole was placed to raise the beam. By 1840 tobacco factories appeared in Louisville, Kentucky and most of the tobacco was sent there rather than flatboated down to New Orleans. Information taken from "Backroads of Barren County, Kentucky, Volume 2, William Daniel Tolle, Gorin Genealogical Publishing, (c) Copyright May 1994. (c) Copyright 26 August 1999, Sandra K. Gorin, All Rights Reserved. sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Colonel Sandi Gorin 205 Clements,Glasgow, KY 42141 (270) 651-9114 or E-fax (707)222-1210 Member Glasgow-Barren County Chamber of Commerce Gorin Genealogical Publishing: http://members.delphi.com/gorin1/index.html TIPS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips KYBIOS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Bios ARCHIVES: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Looking for help on James Harrison Gray who married Ann Adkins in Nicholas County, KY on 11-Jun-1835. Kids were. Mary 1837 Catherine 1839 Francis 1842 Nancy A 1844 John William 1845 married Martha J Mers John Harvey 1847 married Margaret Hopkins Susan 1851 Maranda 1856 Thomas J 1858 Robert Millard 1858 Can any one help?

Thanks, going to forward this to my lists... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- Have a McGuffey's Reader WALL Chart on my wall [Map case-blackboard out of a 1 room school] open to 1 link = 7.92 inches 1 rod=25 links [= 16 1\2 ft\ = perch 1 chain - 4 rods-66 feet 1 mile = 80 chains 1 sq mile = 640 acres 1 acre = 10 [square?] chains 1 sq chain = 16 poles 1 pole = 625 sq links c.c = chain carrier m = marker of no. of chains pilot= ?guide On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:11:38 -0400 "Donna Clark" <drae@mlynk.com> writes: >Thank you all for your response to the perches question--but as I go >on >here--I found one that has degrees, perches and then 'links" >i.e.--" 9 links to a white oak" >Do you guys also know what links are? >For those interested, I was informed that a perch is the same as a >rod---16 >1/2 feet. >Thanks >Donna C. > > >==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== >The Fayette County Genealogical Society- >http://www.hhs.net/sss/fayette/fcgsinfo.htm > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

To one and all, Some of you have noted that certain pages are missing from the Perrin book. I can only conjecture at this point that some of the original lithographs are missing. You will note that the narrative is intact. -- Bob Francis 1920A Butner St. Ft. Eustis, VA 23604 My Homepage is: http://www.shawhan.com Ruddell's Fort Page: http://www.shawhan.com/ruddlesfort.html

To one and all, I guess I'm not finished with this project after all--at least until everyone has received their books. Let me explain the reason why some folks have received their book early on while others are still waiting. I sent the books "book rate" which is basically the "slow-boat-to-China" approach. The post office sends this category at their convenience (space available) which means that the packages are shipped when there is room on the truck, plane, etc. Some of you got lucky and received your books quickly while others of you will have to wait until the slow boat arrives at your doorstep. -- Bob Francis 1920A Butner St. Ft. Eustis, VA 23604 My Homepage is: http://www.shawhan.com Ruddell's Fort Page: http://www.shawhan.com/ruddlesfort.html

For you McFerrin researchers that are subscribed to this list.. I found the following today in a book that is made up of tax list for the state of KY called the 1795 census.. McPherren, James Lincoln Co. McFarrin, John Clark Co " " Thomas " " McFerren, John Lincoln Co " " Robert Clark Co " " Samuel Lincoln Co..

I'm tickled pink that everyone is enjoying their Perrin books. I am now going through each biography of Bourbon County folks and entering them into my database. I find it amazing how interconnected these folks are. Bob -- Bob Francis 1920A Butner St. Ft. Eustis, VA 23604 My Homepage is: http://www.shawhan.com Ruddell's Fort Page: http://www.shawhan.com/ruddlesfort.html

While in MO this summer I was helping friends with their research in Texas county.. we were in many cemeteries and read a lot of cemetery records.. the following was found.... Floyd Dallas Jackson d 28 Dec 1977 SSgt USAF WWII "Here I lie in peace, or otherwise, because I was not and could not by personal conviction be a member or part of any particular hyprocritic community/society, became what I was, a retired veteran of twenty good years in the United States Air Force, resulting in being, by choice, to name only a few, first and foremost, an honest, strict, but impartial military policeman, world wide traveler, lover, hater, soldier of fortune, and all the obscure, unusual and sinister events associated therewith. Other's opinions unconsidered, being devil or angel, either by choice, chance or necessity, as situations required, dictated. I enjoyed to the fullest every minute of it. And hope that in the other world I 3will be afforded opportunity foe the same full exciting, extraordaniary life. Have a nice day." (signed in longhand) Floyd D. Jackson

LOOKING FOR INFO ON WILLIAM CROW AND NANCY MCCANN....... THEY WERE IN NICHOLAS CO KY IN THE EARLY 1800'S. I THINK NANCY'S FATHER IS JAMES MCCANN NEED WILLIAM CROW'S PARENTS

Hello all... make sure that you send queries to the list... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: HMcki45478@aol.com [mailto:HMcki45478@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 3:34 PM To: motherd@theriver.com Subject: Re: Welcome all.. Hi Jean, I'm searching for my ggrandfather, Thomas Riley. Have no birth parents for him. He married Martha DeWitt from Berlin, Ky who was born on 1 Nov. 1864. Her parents were Jacob Dewitt and Moria Frances Tippett. They moved to Clermont Co. Ohio after they married. I have Martha's death info, but can find nothing on Thomas. I know they had several children and resided in Perintown just outside of Milford, Ohio for awhile. If there is anyone out there researching this family line, I would be very happy to hear from you. Thanks, Mj McKinley in New Orleans

Well this should be the last "community welcome" I will have to make for a while.. so sorry that I am not sending a personal welcome to each.. but.... I just arrived home after 5 weeks, and getting e-mail that wasn't flopping from my POP server to my sons was quite a experience... he often rec'd my mail a day before I did.... And all on the same computer... Ahhhhhhh cyber-space.... So... Welcome to all of the newbies out there... Please submit your queries and an introduction to the lists that you are subscribed to so that we can better help each other.. My name is Jeannie and I own these lists and try to keep things rolling along.. but... that is not an easy thing to do alone.. it takes ALL of us together.. Have a great weekend and happy hunting... Jeannie <><

Bob, If only my first class mail were so swift! Perrin arrived today!! Thanks very much for this project and your many other helpful genealogical efforts. Thanks also to Elaine & Jay. Chuck At 08:21 AM 8/18/99 -0400, you wrote: >To one and all, > >Hurrah!!! The Perrin books are finally in the mail to you. Elaine >Armstrong and her husband Jay drove all the way from Richmond to Ft. Eustis >to help me pack all the books. With their great help, the job was done in a >couple of hours. Thanks, Elaine and Jay! > >Well, you should be receiving your book within the next two weeks. I sent >them "book-rate" which is a slow method but is inexpensive. This concludes >my project. I can now rest easy. > >-- >Bob Francis >1920A Butner St. >Ft. Eustis, VA 23604 >Visit My Home Page: http://www.shawhan.com >

Jeannie I went to Carlisle, went through a bunch of microfilm, then talked to Sherry Howard at the historical society and she must have gone through 20 books and could not find anything on this family. She told me to get a death certificate on my g/grandfather and work my way back- guess what no death certificate- any ideas? John Hamilton

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Thought this would an interest to some of you. Read it through because it could help you. I know it will for my Addison Townsend. TTYL Linda Hi Gang! I saw this on the Hunt-L mail list and thought it was worth posting here. Here is an unknown to me source of information that *could* be a gold mine. I have "cut and pasted" it below. M. Dean Hunt Louisville, KY Good Morning everyone: I played hooky from work yesterday and spent the day at the NARA Branch in Atlanta and it jogged my memory to pass on some information to everyone. Prior to the US's entry into WW1 (approx. 1917-1918) every male between the age of 18 and 40 was required to register for the draft. The information found on the card was provided by the individual himself. The registration cards vary in information depending on the individual draft board. But by and large the cards include: The full name of the person (this means first, full middle name, any additional middle names and last name); the current address of the man; his age; his birthdate (some include his place of birth); whether he is a US citizen or a naturalized citizen (some ask if his father was a naturalized citizen and his father's race); his race; his occupation; where he is employed (name of employer); address or location of employment; name and address of his next of kin; some cards ask if the man is married or single and how many people he supports. The card is signed by the draftee. On the back of the card his physical description is noted: Height is broken down by short, medium, tall although some cards give the actual height in feet and inches; Build by slim, medium, stout although some cards list actual weight along with the build; color of eyes and hair; any deformities or injuries are listed (such as one arm missing, blind in one eye, etc); the name and address of the draft board and the date. When these original cards were transferred to the East Pointe NARA branch the LDS spent about 3 years microfilming these cards. There are hundreds and hundreds of boxes and the LDS opened one box at a time and filmed them - in state order. However, within each state the cards were filed by draft board, not by county or by draftee. This makes the searching of the microfilm difficult to say the least. The good news is that the Friends of the National Archives took each box after it was filmed (and checked) and sorted all of these thousands and thousands of cards into - state and then COUNTY order and then in alphabetical order by surname and put then in new boxes. The Friends deserve all the kudos we can give them for this monstrous task. So ... rather than spending hours and hours searching the LDS microfilm you can order copies of the original cards from NARA. if you know the county your ancestor lived in between 1917-1918. And BTW - Ancestry.com lists WW1 Draft cards in their searchable data bases, however I know for a fact that there are 22 cards for the surname WHITE found in McIntosh Co, OK and Ancestry only gave me 4 of them so don't depend on that site. I was told yesterday that some reps from Ancestry had visited the archives a couple of weeks ago to talk about filming the cards, took one look at the hundreds and hundreds of boxes and simply left. For copies: Send a letter requesting copy(s) to: NARA Southeast Region 1557 St. Joseph Ave East Point, GA 30344 In your letter be sure to say you want copy(s) of the WWI Draft application Cards. Include the name of your ancestor and his race, the state and the county. If you want copies of ALL of the cards with a given surname, ask them the cost of the copies and send a SASE for them to let you know the copying cost. In your letter be sure and say you want a copy of the FRONT and BACK of the card. Be sure to send a SASE for the return of you copies. The cost for the copy is 50 cents - 25 cents for the back and 25 cents for the front. If you only want one copy send a buck and say the difference is to be given to the Friends of the Archives, because after all they did all this wonderful hard work for you <VBG> If you have any other questions about the cards please write to me and I'll try to help. I've been "delving" into these cards for the past few years. But PLEASE don't ask me to get the copies for you. It is difficult for me to take the time off from work to visit the archive to do my own research <g>. And feel free to pass this on to any of the lists you are on. Linda Home Page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas/ Marion Co AR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ Washington Co NC, Haas & Hass e-mail list manager --WebTV-Mail-29381-1027-- --part1_4359541a.24ecadf7_boundary--

Bob, You have certainly earned your Golden Chair in Heaven ... maybe two chairs! I look forward to receiving the book and regaling in early Kentucky history. Thank you for making it possible. -- Helen Bob Francis wrote: > To one and all, > > Hurrah!!! The Perrin books are finally in the mail to you. Elaine > Armstrong and her husband Jay drove all the way from Richmond to Ft. Eustis > to help me pack all the books. With their great help, the job was done in a > couple of hours. Thanks, Elaine and Jay! > > Well, you should be receiving your book within the next two weeks. I sent > them "book-rate" which is a slow method but is inexpensive. This concludes > my project. I can now rest easy. > > -- > Bob Francis > 1920A Butner St. > Ft. Eustis, VA 23604 > Visit My Home Page: http://www.shawhan.com

Bob, Many thanks for the time and effort spent in the research and procurement of the Perrin books. You deserve many thanks from all of us, on a job well done. Carl _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Bob Very good Job and many thanks. I really appreciate your efforts. Sally Ford