For you Blake researcher's out there.... I have been helping a young man find out about his father.... He knew NOTHING except his name and the name of his grandfather.... Well, he spent this weekend getting to know aunts, uncles and lots and lots of first cousins... I did NOTHING except to send him what I had on his family and encourage him to make contacts SOON and he did.... He is so jazzed and so am I..... Jeannie <><

Wake up..... the summer is over, lets get back to work.... Things are way to quiet here..... Jeannie <><

Hi, I'm looking for information on surnames Avery and Rooks. Thomas Soesbe Sr. was married to Judith Avery, i'm looking for her parents and siblings. And Sebena Rooks married Thomas Soesbe Jr. in Nicholas County. in early 1800s. Any help with locating information would be appreciated. Thanks Janet Franklin ****************************************************** McCOLLEY~SOSBE FAMILY TREE http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/2895/myroots.html ***************************************************** Why does God love you? He loves you, not because of who you are, but because of who He is. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Jim, The best known Peter Mann (as connected to my wife's Manns) served in the War of 1812, but died (1773-1852) before the War for Southern Independence. There were certainly others, given the prevailing naming conventions, but their histories are more vague. Said Peter Mann, brother of the John below, was a son of George Adam Mann & Maria Elizabeth Herman. Peter J., listed in the household of William & Rachel Sphar Mann in 1850 as age 33, moved to Cooper Co., MO. Thats all we know about him. Chuck Carter At 08:17 PM 9/4/99 +0000, you wrote: >I believe I have a picture of Peter Mann in >civil war uniform from an old album given to >a friend of mine. Was he in the war? >This was with Ogden, Askins, Kabler family >pictures from Milford-Santa Fe Bracken co. area. >jim dempsey > >At 05:47 AM 9/4/99 -0700, you wrote: >>KYNICHOL-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 210 >> >>Today's Topics: >> #1 Re: [KYNICHOL] John MANN of Nichol ["charles r. carter" <cartercr@rma.] >> >>From: "charles r. carter" <cartercr@rma.edu> >>To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com >>Message-Id: <199909031835.OAA27405@smtp.rma.edu> >>Subject: Re: [KYNICHOL] John MANN of Nicholas Co., KY >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >>Dear Michele, >> >>Just as we have an abundance of Elizabeths confounding the problem below, >>Nicholas Co. is replete with Mann descendants, but there is a dearth of >>respondents willing to come up on line. >> >>I feel that there is only one John Mann, Sr. to contend with...to prove that >>absolutely is a different story. Only one is in evidence in Nicholas Co >>1800-1846). >> >>What is the proof that Angeline, Mary & Catherine were daughters of >>Elizabeth Mann Davis? >> >>John Mann, Sr.'s household certainly included "extras" in most census years! >>James, Milton & Fanny, to mention another set of grandchildren whose lineage >>is open to debate. Until I can check the 1820-Clinton Co., OH census, the >>following is a theory for 1810 extras in John Mann's household: >> >> Elizabeth Mann, d/o Jacob & Catherine McDaniel Mann (& other children >>of this couple). Jacob went to Ohio c. 1810, but his family did not >>accompany him at that time. Don't know when they joined him... >> >>Dorothy Knoff's explanation seems to stretch my arithmetic a bit, but hard >>evidence is hard to come by. >> >>I am a descendant of John Mann, Sr. through his son Charles. >> >>Mary MANN Carter >>Front Royal, VA (resident of Carlisle, Nicholas Co., KY 1936-1967) >> >> >

I am also interested in Kentontown. I lost Jim's message, so this is for him too. I have an Ellis line that connects with the Wood line. I also have Ashbrooks and McClanahans. Thanks for any information! Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <DHatfi3342@aol.com> To: <KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 7:57 AM Subject: [KYNICHOL] Re: KYNICHOL-D Digest V99 #211 > Hi Jim, > > Saw your e-mail and I also am interested in Kentontown, Kentucky. I have > Ellis, Workman, and Hatfield to mention a little. > > My husband Myron Hatfield's greatgrandfather was Jeremiah Ellis married to > Francis Whitley. Jeremiah's father was William Ellis. > > If there might be a connection with your family and mine would like very much > to hear from you. > > Donna Hatfield >

Jim, Its been a while, but I believe you, Jeannie Dalrymple, and I were chatting about Kentontown, Piqua, etc. Good to hear from you again! I'm probably related to all the names in the list below through the Camerons. That goes for about all the names I've seen in the Kentontown cemetery. Chuck Carter At 07:59 PM 9/4/99 +0000, you wrote: >Hello, I have joined the Nicholas co. List as I >am interested in Kentontown, Robertson co. >which was in Nicholas co. from 1800-1820 and >the Cedar Creek-Piqua area which was in Nicholas >co. from 1800-1869. >Interested in any and all those families such as: >Burns, Cameron, Duncan, Ellis, Taylor, Dryden, >Thompson, Throckmorton, Hitch, Craycraft, Fooks, >Sparks, Jones, Louderbach, Linville, Wiggins. > >jim dempsey >

Say Jim.... Have you found a marriage for a Samuel Cameron and Martha McCune in you travels... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: charles r. carter [mailto:cartercr@rma.edu] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 10:54 AM To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYNICHOL] Kentontown Jim, Its been a while, but I believe you, Jeannie Dalrymple, and I were chatting about Kentontown, Piqua, etc. Good to hear from you again! I'm probably related to all the names in the list below through the Camerons. That goes for about all the names I've seen in the Kentontown cemetery. Chuck Carter At 07:59 PM 9/4/99 +0000, you wrote: >Hello, I have joined the Nicholas co. List as I >am interested in Kentontown, Robertson co. >which was in Nicholas co. from 1800-1820 and >the Cedar Creek-Piqua area which was in Nicholas >co. from 1800-1869. >Interested in any and all those families such as: >Burns, Cameron, Duncan, Ellis, Taylor, Dryden, >Thompson, Throckmorton, Hitch, Craycraft, Fooks, >Sparks, Jones, Louderbach, Linville, Wiggins. > >jim dempsey >

Jim Dempsey -- Did I hear you say WIGGINS????? Wanda Wiggins-Havlick

I have been collecting photographs from Harrison, Bracken, Mason, Nicholas and Bourbon counties. From 1860-1915. It would really help to date them if I knew when the Photographers were active. Such as Keethler or Berry in Cynthiana, Christman in Mt.Olivet, etc. Does anyone know if anyone is or has set up a dated list of photographers in the Robertson county area? Thanks. Jim Dempsey

Hi Jim, Saw your e-mail and I also am interested in Kentontown, Kentucky. I have Ellis, Workman, and Hatfield to mention a little. My husband Myron Hatfield's greatgrandfather was Jeremiah Ellis married to Francis Whitley. Jeremiah's father was William Ellis. If there might be a connection with your family and mine would like very much to hear from you. Donna Hatfield

I believe I have a picture of Peter Mann in civil war uniform from an old album given to a friend of mine. Was he in the war? This was with Ogden, Askins, Kabler family pictures from Milford-Santa Fe Bracken co. area. jim dempsey At 05:47 AM 9/4/99 -0700, you wrote: >KYNICHOL-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 210 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [KYNICHOL] John MANN of Nichol ["charles r. carter" <cartercr@rma.] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from KYNICHOL-D, send a message to > > KYNICHOL-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:35:36 -0400 >From: "charles r. carter" <cartercr@rma.edu> >To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <199909031835.OAA27405@smtp.rma.edu> >Subject: Re: [KYNICHOL] John MANN of Nicholas Co., KY >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Dear Michele, > >Just as we have an abundance of Elizabeths confounding the problem below, >Nicholas Co. is replete with Mann descendants, but there is a dearth of >respondents willing to come up on line. > >I feel that there is only one John Mann, Sr. to contend with...to prove that >absolutely is a different story. Only one is in evidence in Nicholas Co >1800-1846). > >What is the proof that Angeline, Mary & Catherine were daughters of >Elizabeth Mann Davis? > >John Mann, Sr.'s household certainly included "extras" in most census years! >James, Milton & Fanny, to mention another set of grandchildren whose lineage >is open to debate. Until I can check the 1820-Clinton Co., OH census, the >following is a theory for 1810 extras in John Mann's household: > > Elizabeth Mann, d/o Jacob & Catherine McDaniel Mann (& other children >of this couple). Jacob went to Ohio c. 1810, but his family did not >accompany him at that time. Don't know when they joined him... > >Dorothy Knoff's explanation seems to stretch my arithmetic a bit, but hard >evidence is hard to come by. > >I am a descendant of John Mann, Sr. through his son Charles. > >Mary MANN Carter >Front Royal, VA (resident of Carlisle, Nicholas Co., KY 1936-1967) > > >At 11:45 AM 8/28/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >>I need help proving my husband's MANN line. He is descended from Elizabeth >>Mann b. ca 1805 KY. Elizabeth had at least 3 illegitimate children: Angeline >>(his ancestor), Catharine, and Mary. Elizabeth married David DAVIS 13 Apr >>1846 Nicholas Co., KY. >> >>I believe Elizabeth's parents were John MANN & Elizabeth JONES of Nicholas >>Co, but I don't know how to prove it. >> >>Here is what I know of this family & why I have arrive at this conclusion: >> >>1. Elizabeth's marriage bond states she was the daughter of John Mann Sr. of >>Nicholas Co. >> >>2. In the 1840 Nicholas Co census, there were only 2 John Mann's: John who >>m. Elizabeth Jones and their son, John Jr. In the 1850 Nicholas Co census, >>Elizabeth (Jones) Mann is living in her son Samuel's household. John Sr. >>died 17 Oct 1846. >> >>3. In the 1810 Nicholas Co census, after accounting for John & Elizabeth >>Mann's known children, there are 2 additional females aged 10-16 and one >>female aged 0-10. >> >>4. Elizabeth (Mann) Davis' daughter Mary & Catharine Mann are living in her >>household in the 1850 Nicholas Co census. Daughter Angeline (age 13) and a >>David Mann (age 18) are in the household of Reuben D. & Mary Hall. This >>Reuben is probably the son of Reuben D. Hall & Anny Mann. Anny was the >>daughter of John Mann & Elizabeth Jones. >> >>All of this supports Elizabeth Mann as the daughter of John Mann & Elizabeth >>Jones. However, "The Family of Four Frontiers" states that Mary, David, >>Catharine and Angeline were the children of Jacob Mann & Mary Peyton. I have >>not seen this source personally (can't find it anywhere), but another >>researcher has given me the details. This Jacob Mann was the son of Peter >>MANN & Barberry JONES and the nephew of John Mann & Elizabeth Jones. >> >>The information I have shows that Elizabeth (Mann) Davis was the daughter of >>John Mann Sr. I also have proof that Angeline Mann was the daughter of >>Elizabeth (Mann) Davis. I know of 2 researchers who have similar proof that >>the same Mary & Catharine Mann stated in above source as children of Jacob >>Mann were children of Elizabeth (Mann) Davis. >> >>Based on the information I have compiled, I am reasonably certain that >>Angeline Mann was the daughter of Elizabeth (Mann) Davis who was the >>daughter of John Mann Sr. of Nicholas Co., KY. How do I prove that this John >>Mann Sr is the John Mann who married Elizabeth Jones? >> >>Thank you, >> >>Michele Colson >>macolson@pacbell.net >> >

Hello, I have joined the Nicholas co. List as I am interested in Kentontown, Robertson co. which was in Nicholas co. from 1800-1820 and the Cedar Creek-Piqua area which was in Nicholas co. from 1800-1869. Interested in any and all those families such as: Burns, Cameron, Duncan, Ellis, Taylor, Dryden, Thompson, Throckmorton, Hitch, Craycraft, Fooks, Sparks, Jones, Louderbach, Linville, Wiggins. jim dempsey

Dear Michele, Just as we have an abundance of Elizabeths confounding the problem below, Nicholas Co. is replete with Mann descendants, but there is a dearth of respondents willing to come up on line. I feel that there is only one John Mann, Sr. to contend with...to prove that absolutely is a different story. Only one is in evidence in Nicholas Co 1800-1846). What is the proof that Angeline, Mary & Catherine were daughters of Elizabeth Mann Davis? John Mann, Sr.'s household certainly included "extras" in most census years! James, Milton & Fanny, to mention another set of grandchildren whose lineage is open to debate. Until I can check the 1820-Clinton Co., OH census, the following is a theory for 1810 extras in John Mann's household: Elizabeth Mann, d/o Jacob & Catherine McDaniel Mann (& other children of this couple). Jacob went to Ohio c. 1810, but his family did not accompany him at that time. Don't know when they joined him... Dorothy Knoff's explanation seems to stretch my arithmetic a bit, but hard evidence is hard to come by. I am a descendant of John Mann, Sr. through his son Charles. Mary MANN Carter Front Royal, VA (resident of Carlisle, Nicholas Co., KY 1936-1967) At 11:45 AM 8/28/99 -0700, you wrote: > >I need help proving my husband's MANN line. He is descended from Elizabeth >Mann b. ca 1805 KY. Elizabeth had at least 3 illegitimate children: Angeline >(his ancestor), Catharine, and Mary. Elizabeth married David DAVIS 13 Apr >1846 Nicholas Co., KY. > >I believe Elizabeth's parents were John MANN & Elizabeth JONES of Nicholas >Co, but I don't know how to prove it. > >Here is what I know of this family & why I have arrive at this conclusion: > >1. Elizabeth's marriage bond states she was the daughter of John Mann Sr. of >Nicholas Co. > >2. In the 1840 Nicholas Co census, there were only 2 John Mann's: John who >m. Elizabeth Jones and their son, John Jr. In the 1850 Nicholas Co census, >Elizabeth (Jones) Mann is living in her son Samuel's household. John Sr. >died 17 Oct 1846. > >3. In the 1810 Nicholas Co census, after accounting for John & Elizabeth >Mann's known children, there are 2 additional females aged 10-16 and one >female aged 0-10. > >4. Elizabeth (Mann) Davis' daughter Mary & Catharine Mann are living in her >household in the 1850 Nicholas Co census. Daughter Angeline (age 13) and a >David Mann (age 18) are in the household of Reuben D. & Mary Hall. This >Reuben is probably the son of Reuben D. Hall & Anny Mann. Anny was the >daughter of John Mann & Elizabeth Jones. > >All of this supports Elizabeth Mann as the daughter of John Mann & Elizabeth >Jones. However, "The Family of Four Frontiers" states that Mary, David, >Catharine and Angeline were the children of Jacob Mann & Mary Peyton. I have >not seen this source personally (can't find it anywhere), but another >researcher has given me the details. This Jacob Mann was the son of Peter >MANN & Barberry JONES and the nephew of John Mann & Elizabeth Jones. > >The information I have shows that Elizabeth (Mann) Davis was the daughter of >John Mann Sr. I also have proof that Angeline Mann was the daughter of >Elizabeth (Mann) Davis. I know of 2 researchers who have similar proof that >the same Mary & Catharine Mann stated in above source as children of Jacob >Mann were children of Elizabeth (Mann) Davis. > >Based on the information I have compiled, I am reasonably certain that >Angeline Mann was the daughter of Elizabeth (Mann) Davis who was the >daughter of John Mann Sr. of Nicholas Co., KY. How do I prove that this John >Mann Sr is the John Mann who married Elizabeth Jones? > >Thank you, > >Michele Colson >macolson@pacbell.net >

Is anyone researching the surname Frederick. Looking for parents and siblings of Basil Frederick born abt 1810 PA. Basil married Charity Flora 1842 in Nicholas Co. Basil's second marriage was to Mary C. Sloop in 1864 in Nicholas Co. Basil served in the Civil War (Union). Beleive his father was living when he enlisted in the service. He owned property in Nicholas Co. He is mentioned being in Bracken, Robertson, and Nicholas Cos. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA Myrna Frederick Fox Indiana

THESE ARE TOO FUNNY... Stupid people should have to wear signs that just say, "I'm Stupid". That way you wouldn't rely on them, would you? You wouldn't ask them anything. It would be like, "Excuse me...oops, nevermind... I didn't see your sign." It's like before my wife and I moved from Texas to California. Our house was full of boxes and there was a U-Haul truck in our driveway. My friend comes over and says, "Hey, you moving?" "Nope. We just pack our stuff up once or twice a week to see how many boxes it takes. Here's your sign." A couple of months ago I went fishing with a buddy of mine, we pulled his boat into the dock, I lifted up this big 'ol stringer of bass and this idiot on the dock goes, "Hey, y'all catch all them fish?" "Nope. Talked 'em into giving up. Here's your sign." I was watching one of those animal shows on the Discovery Channel. There was a guy inventing a shark-bite suit. And there's only one way to test it. "Alright Jimmy, you got that shark suit on, it looks good... They want you to jump into this pool of sharks, and you tell us if it hurts when they bite you." "Well, all right, but hold my sign. I don't wanna lose it" Last time I had a flat tire, I pulled my truck into one of those side-of-the-road gas stations. The attendant walks out, looks at my truck, looks at me, and I SWEAR he said, "Tire go flat?" I couldn't resist. I said, "Nope. I was driving around and those other three just swelled right up on me. Here's your sign." We were trying to sell our car about a year ago. A guy came over to the house and drove the car around for about 45 minutes. We get back to the house, he gets out of the car, reaches down and grabs the exhaust pipe, then says, "Wow, that's hot!" See? If he'd been wearing his sign, I could have stopped him. >>

This is so interesting, I am forwarding to all of the lists..... if you all don't sub to Sandi's KY RESEARCH, you are missing out on a lot of good information that will help you understand better the lives that our ancestors lived.. have a great day.. Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Sandi Gorin [mailto:sgorin@glasgow-ky.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 4:38 AM To: KYRESEARCH@rootsweb.com Subject: TIP 259 - WHAT VIRGINIA WAS, KENTUCKY BECAME TIP #259: WHAT VIRGINIA WAS, KENTUCKY BECAME. To learn the history and traditions of the earliest Kentucky settlers, we need to look at their lives in the states from which they came. Today, we'll take a look back to Virginia, as most of the tools, houses, traditions and dress came with them into Kentucky. This series will be interspersed with other tips. When many people came into Virginia from the "old country" they were penniless. They had to serve a term of labor known as being indentured servants, bond servants or redemptioners. Most of them ended up in Virginia because the need for workers there was greater. Some of course, came against their will; but when they reached the Virginia shores, they had to sign or put their "x" on a standard agreement which bound them for a stated number of years, normally 4-5. The man paying their the passage was known as the owner and demanded this servitude in return for his payment of up to several hundred dollars. This covered not only their passage but food and clothing. They were normally provided with a suit of clothes and some primitive tools. If they were lucky and the owner was generous, they might receive some corn and maybe up to 50 acres of land for them to work. Many were promised land, but never received it at the end of their indentureship. These were likely to head off for the "far frontier" where they could obtain much more than 50 acres. These white immigrants were as completely a slave as their black co-workers while serving off their indentureship. They were treated the same - the same whippings, long hours, hard work and neglect - or the same fair treatment. Those treated harshly attempted to run away, but if caught, their punishment was severe, including often having an iron collar placed around their neck. Those lucky enough to escape attempted to blend in with the other free whites and blacks. An interesting aside is that sometimes, those white men arriving as free men - i.e. paying their own passage, sometimes willingly bound themselves out. They were in a strange land, many times with no family or friends, and thought this would be a way to "learn the lay of the land." They were looking for on the job experience, a security blanket of having someone else responsible for them until they could find where they wanted to settle and put down roots. When the indentured white slave had served out his indentureship, he began in earnest looking for his own land. If he was still short of money, he might have to work a few more years as what we would call a hired hand. If his owner was a decent sort, he might give him a few things to get started with - nails, tools. The man usually ended up in what was called the back country, land that was still totally wooded and unimproved; the good, rich land had already been claimed by the wealthier. A makeshift shelter was erected on what acreage he could afford and crops put out as soon as the land was cleared. Sometimes he was forced to plant his crops right in the timber and fight the undergrowth difficulties until he had the time to clean out the stumps. Most began by growing tobacco as this was the crop that brought in the money. As he found time, the farmer tried to build the family a better home - a little cottage in the woods. Most look liked the homes of the old world - thatched roofs, clapboards (called weatherboards in the south). If he added windows, they were tiny and covered with shutters to protect somewhat against the Indian attacks. The home normally only had one room which served all the needs of bedroom and living quarters. The floor could be earth or bricks. The door was large and thick; there was a fireplace at one end used for heating and cooking. The well-to-do farmer had plantations. You will see the term plantations in Kentucky after the Virginians began settlement here, but it usually was not the plantation that was seen in Virginia. Each plantation tried to locate in an area where it had its own wharf so that the ships could come right up beside the land to pick up the tobacco. The house was called the "manor" and was brick. These were just fancier houses with larger rooms and likely many fireplaces. The furniture was imported if the owner were wealthy enough, if not, they were simple homemade pieces. They often did not compare to those settlers in the northern areas of the country where most of the furniture was imported at the earliest dates. Over the years, as the monies came in from the sale of tobacco, the furniture improved and the dress became finer. Separate kitchens were built, keeping the heat down in the house during those hot summer months. This tradition came into Kentucky as well. Some of the manor houses had a passageway between the kitchen and the main house. The kitchen had a large fireplace from which all the delicious meals were prepared by the slaves. The main food staples, like Kentucky later, were corn, fish, pigs and beef (had to be eaten immediately as their were not good preservations used early). The early planter sometimes started his day off with a morning beer and then went out to do his work. At around 10 am he came back for breakfast and the main meal at night. Eggs were not widely enjoyed as the hens hadn't been thought of as a food source. The main meal was normally eaten between 4-5 p.m., visitors could then be entertained and a supper around 9 pm. Making clothing was a full time occupation for the ladyfolk. They not only had to clothe their own family, but their white and black slaves. All the clothing at first came from the spinning wheel and needles of the women of the household. If they wanted wool, it had to be imported. Illness created a special problem for the early settlers in Virginia. There were no physicians as such to be found easily. So it was the women's job to nurse everyone back to health. Many trusted the Indian medicine man more than the English trained physicians! But, many died. Infants had the least chance of survival and if you will note from the records of most states, the life expectancy was 40-50 years old. If they lived that long, many had second or third wives and husbands, the previous spouse's bodies just "gave out." You will also find that if a man had lost his spouse, he tended to marry younger women each time; he normally had a house full of children and needed someone strong, healthy and willing to increase his number of off-spring! Those that died had to be buried immediately in handmade little coffins that rather outlined the shape of the body. There were no dentists anywhere and when faced with tooth decay, the people just accepted it, never thinking for many years that anything could be done. When it started hurting too much to stand, any strong person was asked to pull the tooth out. Many times, the local blacksmith served well in this capacity. Maybe that is why no one smiled when the first cameras were invented or the local artist painted a portrait; it has been said that a majority of people were completely toothless by age 30! Drinking was quite acceptable, but the southerner soon discarded the importation of English ales with corn liquor or hard cider. Women, as well as men, started the day with a drink and most homes had a brewing kettle somewhere in the house. Beer was made by mixing together all sorts of ingredients - milk, dry white wine, spices - all stirred into the fermented liquor. The lady of the manor was regarded as the mistress of the house, and depending on how many servants she had, the less work she was responsible for. But, she was to be loving and kind to all the family, black and white and gave orders regarding the cooking, laundry and every day tasks. She encouraged her daughters to learn how to spin and weave. She, if a decent sort of lady, was respected by the slaves and spent gab sessions with them. To be continued. (c) 2 September 1999, Sandra K. Gorin, All Rights Reserved, sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Colonel Sandi Gorin 205 Clements,Glasgow, KY 42141 (270) 651-9114 or E-fax (707)222-1210 Member Glasgow-Barren County Chamber of Commerce Gorin Genealogical Publishing: http://members.delphi.com/gorin1/index.html TIPS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips KYBIOS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Bios ARCHIVES: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Hi, I am posting the earliest part of my HAMILTON line (see below), in hopes that it will look familiar to someone. I have posted before, but I am hoping that there might be someone new out there. From what little I have, Samuel Luther was a minister. It looks like Samuel Luther's parents were Samuel Hamilton & Jane Swinney, who were married in Bourbon Co, KY in 1797. I have nothing more on this couple. Any thing look familiar? Any information would be appreciated. Thank you, Kris Goszka in VA 1 Samuel Luther Hamilton b: 1818 in KY . +*Mary Grant Eward b: 16 Nov 1819 in Nicolas Co., KY m: 28 Jan 1846 in Nicolas Co., KY ........ 2 *Samuel Luther Hamilton b: 10 Feb 1847 in Nicholas Co., KY d: Aug 1900 in Buffalo, NY ............ +*Elizabeth Sophia Wheeler b: 1847 in IN m: 25 Aug 1869 in Lebanon, IN d: Apr 1928 ................... 3 Charles Robert Hamilton b: 18 Jun 1872 in Lebanon, IN d: 1954 in Wooster, OH ....................... +Edith Alice Crooks b: 16 Sep 1877 in Columbus, OH m: 3 Aug 1907 in Berea, Ohio d: 1973 in Broomall, PA ................... 3 Fred Atherton Hamilton b: Bet. 1872 - 1875 ................... 3 *Guy Wheeler Hamilton b: Oct 1875 in Lebanon, IN d: 29 Nov 1959 in Monrovia, CA ....................... +*Alice Pauline Ernst b: 2 Sep 1875 in Madison, IN d: Oct 1936 in Madison, IN ................... *2nd Wife of *Guy Wheeler Hamilton: ....................... +Virginia "Aunt Ginny" Webb Sloan m: 4 Sep 1954 in Lawrenceburg, IN ................... 3 Earle Hamilton b: Aft. 1875 ....................... +Lenora ........ 2 John Hamilton b: 1849 in KY ........ 2 Edward Hamilton b: 1855 in IN ........ 2 Mary Hamilton b: 1857 in IN

Thank you ,Barbara

Joanna, This does clear up the confusion on dates for me plus gave me plenty of extra information!! I thank you for taking the time and trouble to look this up for me. Almost all my ancestors were from Nicholas County. Kay

Kay, Bingo.....I found your Daniel and Angeline with a child named Rhoda in the 1880 Nicholas county Census. Here you go... ED#19, HeadQuarters, page#23 nos. 199/201 Daniel, age 43 Angeline, wife, age 40 Mahulda, daughter, age 19 Lucinda, daughter, age 16 Rhoda, daughter, age 14 Joe, son, age 12 Jennie, daughter, age 10 Emma (it is hard to read but I think this is right) daughter, age 8 According to Nicholas County Marriages Daniel and Angeline were married 3 Sept 1856. I believe Daniel to be the son of Jacob Snapp and Ann Smith. Daniel is showing in the 1850 census in the household of Jacob and Ann . Jacob, age 52 Ann, age 43 John, age 21 Daniel, age 13 William, age 12 Mary, age 9 Huldah, age 7 Wm. F. age 3 Hope this helps you some. Joanna kimjo@ccrtc.com -----Original Message----- From: kay barnes <KTBarnes@webtv.net> To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com <KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 6:31 PM Subject: [KYNICHOL] Snapp Joanne, Thank you for your reply. I will save the information. LDS has a Rhoda Snapp b. 1866 with parents Daniel Snapp and Angeline Shaw. But that can't be right since he would have been around 80 years old when Rhoda was born! Kay