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    1. [KYNICHOL] Nettie Gray
    2. Looking for info on the family of Nettie Gray who was married to Jefferson Jolly in Nicholas County, KY Kids were: Harvey Richard married Lillian Hunt Edith Allison Early Thomas married matte Shields Margaret Allison Rettie Jessie married George William Mitchell Lillie married Edgar George Ernest Howard 2nd Husband Milliard gray Katherine William Millard Thomas Raymond Emma Sue Oliver George Ray Kenneth Can anyone help? Jim

    01/13/2000 04:41:06
    1. [KYNICHOL] Gray & Smart
    2. Looking for info on Millard Clinton Gray & Margaret Ellen Smart who were married in Nicholas County, KY Kids were: Bertie Married Willie Morgan? Robert Bessie Married Huck Kerns Gladys Married Tip Kerns Can anyone help? Jim

    01/13/2000 04:12:38
    1. [KYNICHOL] tid-bits
    2. Jean Dalrymple
    3. -----Original Message----- From: Sandi Gorin [mailto:sgorin@glasgow-ky.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 6:37 AM To: KYRESEARCH@rootsweb.com Subject: TIP 274 - THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF COMPUTER GENEALOGY TIP #274: THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF COMPUTER GENEALOGY Ah computers. What a wonderful way to work on one's genealogy! How much faster than handwriting or typing out family sheets and pedigree charts. Now software programs let you plug in the information in a zip, hook all the families together, calculate ages ... all those things we used to slave over by the hours. Then, there is the internet. Seemingly thousands of new cousins sprouting up all over the place; people you may never have found without those internet searches. What a blessing! And oh, those wonderful gedcoms and genealogy sites. One could spend an entire day surfing the web, in total awe that there is someone actually working on the same surname as we! And there ... they have solved your entire family tree all the way back to Adam and Eve. You excitedly accept their data, with our without documentation, to be the gospel truth and settle back totally content that finally, you can move on to another line that had been giving you trouble. Whoa! Imagine for just a split second that the person who had taken your pedigree back through all the royal households; tied you in with every president of the United States; and even shown your coat of arms - was wrong? What if they got their information from another gencom that was in error? What if it came from "crazy aunt Lizzie" who had dreams of grandeur of being related to all the famous people, or who got all of her dates and data wrong? But wait you say! I can't get to all the libraries clear across the country or visit the courthouses on the other coast? This is my ONLY way of getting the data, what am I to do? Well, we've all been there, believe me. Unless we have unlimited resources and can hop a jet to London, Paris, Germany; or even driven thousands of miles .... we all know! Here it is being handed to us on the proverbial silver platter and we can finally give our grandkids their family tree, hoping they will appreciate it in later years. What else can be do? I for one DO search all the web sites and gedcoms. I often print off the findings of this long unknown cousin or aunt and uncle and then I start dissecting them. 1 - is there a name and email of the submitter than I can write to and seek documentation or offer corrections? 2 - Does the data they have dovetail closely with what I have with a few minor details different that between I have that I can work out? 3 - Have they given their sources that are in the public domain? If so, can you write for a copy of some of the records from county clerks to verify the information? Maybe this was a different George Rogers Clark who was named for the famous Clark??? Is this the same Eisenhower family that I know to be part of our immediate family line, or a contemporary unrelated? What if there is NO documentation? Then I take it with a grain of salt and put it in a file of hopeful possibilities. What if there are drastic differences between the information shown and what I have worked on for years? Then is the time to put a big question mark on it and put it in a "to be investigated" file. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water on all the information you have already accumulated thinking that they must know best because they have it on a web site! What if I cannot get paper documentation? Then, I don't use it as an "official" record. I might cite the information and stress that "I cannot confirm the following information." But ... I've found that one has to be careful with even doing that as once it is in print, people do exactly what we shouldn't do --- take it as Gospel. A favorite pastor of mine did a small book on his family tree and prefaced the findings with the words: "How it might have been by someone who wasn't there." In conclusion, be careful on mass acceptance of all the data we find. I have found glaring errors within family lines by those who sincerely had found THE missing puzzles. Some of this came from the DAR, SAR or family members. But after being thrilled with the findings later realized that "this just can't be" ... I know that Marcellus was a Presbyterian minister because his name is on the church documents complete with his photograph! Robert could not have been a hero of the Spanish American War - I have a picture from the local newspaper of his hanging on the courthouse lawn! So whether we do our genealogy the old fashioned way by paper and pen in musty courthouses, or with the speed of transmission via the internet - the rules are the same. Question, prove, disprove, keep and throw out. (c) Copyright 13 Jan 2000, Sandra K. Gorin, All Rights Reserved. sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Colonel Sandi Gorin 205 Clements,Glasgow, KY 42141 (270) 651-9114 or E-fax (707)222-1210 Member Glasgow-Barren County Chamber of Commerce Gorin Genealogical Publishing: http://members.delphi.com/gorin1/index.html TIPS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips KYBIOS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Bios ARCHIVES: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl GORIN FAMILY WEBSITE: http://www.myfamily.com/home/home.asp

    01/13/2000 08:14:58
    1. [KYNICHOL] Elizabeth Alison
    2. Debbie Carter
    3. ELIZABETH ALISON b. 6-8-1810 in KY d.5-12-1881 in Putnam county IN. Elizabeth married ALEXANDER P. BRADSHAW 11-1-1832 in Nicholas county KY. I am trying to find out any info on her parents. Thank you Debra Carter tara37@comsys.net

    01/11/2000 02:55:05
    1. Re: [KYNICHOL] 1775 early travelers cross Lewis Co
    2. Jo Ann
    3. HERMON B FAGLEY wrote: > > Col Robert Patterson, b 1753 Cove Mt,Pa served 1774 in Lord Dunmore's > War. > Oct,1775,in company with John McLelland and family and 6 other young men, > left the Pittsburg area for Ky,taking their movable property by canoe,and > driving > their cattle by land. > At the mouth of Salt Lick creek,he and 3 of the young men left the Ohio > River > Vanceburg] intending to meet the families and canoes at Leestown. > [Frankfort,Ky] > They went up Salt Lick to it's head,and crossed Cabin Creek,and struck > the STONE > LICK where Francis McDermond later located his survey. Then,they proceded > by > Mays Lick to the Lower Blue Licks [US RT 68] where they met Simon Kenton > and > John Williams,who knew of no other whites in the country. They proceded > across > Licking,and several branches of Elkhorn,to Leestown.There,they met John > McClelland, > and moved to the Royal Spring-Georgetown-I-75 N of Lexington. > Would Dr Talley please comment on their route across Lewis Co,and eastern > Mason,to Mays Lick. They surely were following a buffalo trace from salt > lick to salt lick. There must have been a buffalo trace north of > Vanceburg,into eastern Adams Co,Oh, likely > by Stout's Run,and Blue Creek,towards the spring at Latham,Oh. > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ==== KYNICHOL Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE send a new e-mail to KYNICHOL-L-request@rootsweb.com or KYNICHOL-D-request@rootsweb.com with nothing in the body of the e-mail except the word unsubscribe. Was this Patterson married to a Lindsay? Thank You, Jo Ann Sisco

    01/10/2000 09:16:07
    1. [KYNICHOL] 1775 early travelers cross Lewis Co
    2. HERMON B FAGLEY
    3. Col Robert Patterson, b 1753 Cove Mt,Pa served 1774 in Lord Dunmore's War. Oct,1775,in company with John McLelland and family and 6 other young men, left the Pittsburg area for Ky,taking their movable property by canoe,and driving their cattle by land. At the mouth of Salt Lick creek,he and 3 of the young men left the Ohio River Vanceburg] intending to meet the families and canoes at Leestown. [Frankfort,Ky] They went up Salt Lick to it's head,and crossed Cabin Creek,and struck the STONE LICK where Francis McDermond later located his survey. Then,they proceded by Mays Lick to the Lower Blue Licks [US RT 68] where they met Simon Kenton and John Williams,who knew of no other whites in the country. They proceded across Licking,and several branches of Elkhorn,to Leestown.There,they met John McClelland, and moved to the Royal Spring-Georgetown-I-75 N of Lexington. Would Dr Talley please comment on their route across Lewis Co,and eastern Mason,to Mays Lick. They surely were following a buffalo trace from salt lick to salt lick. There must have been a buffalo trace north of Vanceburg,into eastern Adams Co,Oh, likely by Stout's Run,and Blue Creek,towards the spring at Latham,Oh. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    01/10/2000 02:55:45
    1. [KYNICHOL] Ishmael Chapel, continued
    2. Jean Dalrymple
    3. Nicholas County KY, Ishmael Chapel Church records: There are new entries in this section of the book as well as recaps of the previous postings. Some having new information ie: dates of death. That looks as tho there were many different hands posting in that area., and there seems to be more dates of death here. The writing is hard to read and the spelling leaves a LOT to be desired. We were allowed to make copies of the book several years ago while I was in KY doing research, the book was found under the floor boards of the old church. I have no idea where the book is today as the lady is now passed on. I will not use the "'s that are in the book. Jeannie Blake-Dalrymple The Complete Church Register ISHMAEL CHAPEL Ky Conference Methodist Episcopal Church South Nashville, Tenn.: Southern Methodist Publishing House 1884 Register of Members: Name, When Received, How Received, by Whom Received, Date of Death or Disposal. 1900-1910 Alexander, James, Oct. 1884, Profession, Wm Kennedy, Dec. Feb 21 1917 Alexander, Ditzler, Oct 1884, Profession, Alexander, Nannie, Feb 1896, Profession, R. H. Wightman Alexander, Mary Smitson, 1899, Josiah Godby, Alexander, Mrs. Lillie, 1890, Profession, E. C. Savage Barnes, Mrs. Mary, 1883, Profession, G. B. Demaree Bowen, harve, Feb. 16, 1899, Profession, R. H. Wightman Bowen, Jno. W., Feb 16, 1899, Profession, R. H. Wightman Bowen, Laura, 1874, Letter, J. m. Carter, Died June 21, 1912 Bowen, Henry M., 1879, Profession, J. M. Carter Bowen, Jas. K., 1879, Profession, J. M. Carter, Dec. 1917 Bowen, Edward, 1879, Profession, J. M. Carter Bowen, Taylor, Oct 1884, Profession, Wm. Kennedy Barnett, Hattie, -------, ------------,-------------, Removed to Cassady Crawford, Thos, -------,------------,-------------,Dec Crawford, Jesse,--------,----------,-------------, Dropped Crump, Matilda, 1874, Letter, J. M. Carter Crump, Richard, 1879, Letter, J. M. Carter Dampier, Fannie, 1874, Letter, J. M. Carter Flora, Chas, ----,-------,---------, Gone Flora, Thos. J., 1905, Letter, Josiah Godby, Disposed 12, 1912 Flora, Washington, 1900, Profession, H. L. Clark,Withdrawel 12 1912 George, Lizzie, George Ella Hopkins, Franklin,-----------, --------, -------------, Dropped Hollar, Albert, July 3, 1909, Letter, E. K. Arnold Hollar, Rosa Lynn - -------------------------- jd <><

    01/10/2000 10:35:45
    1. [KYNICHOL] Ishmael Chapel continued
    2. Jean Dalrymple
    3. Nicholas County KY, Ishmael Chapel Church records: There are new entries in this section of the book as well as recaps of the previous postings. Some having new information ie: dates of death. That looks as tho there were many different hands posting in that area., and there seems to be more dates of death here. The writing is hard to read and the spelling leaves a LOT to be desired. We were allowed to make copies of the book several years ago while I was in KY doing research, the book was found under the floor boards of the old church. I have no idea where the book is today as the lady is now passed on. I will not use the "'s that are in the book. Jeannie Blake-Dalrymple The Complete Church Register ISHMAEL CHAPEL Ky Conference Methodist Episcopal Church South Nashville, Tenn.: Southern Methodist Publishing House 1884 Register of Members: Name, When Received, How Received, by Whom Received, Date of Death or Disposal. Wesley Wilson, 1900 frome Stony Creek, Josiah Godby, by order of Church Con. Aug 22, 1911 Nancy Walton, 1900 Profession, Josiah Godby, Canson Walton, 1900, Profession, Josiah Godby, by order Ch Con Aug 22, '11 Mary Barnette, 1900, Profession, Josiah Godby, Lost sight of June 24 '09 Eldridge Camron, 1900, profession, Josiah Godby, dropped -allas Camron, 1900, profession, Josiah Godby, Dropped B Mary (Dampier)Shields, 1900, Profession, Josiah Godby, Gone Carlisle James Alexander, 1900, Profession, Josiah Godby William Fitchpatrick, 1900, Profession, Josiah Godby, Dead Washington Flora, 1900, Profession, Josiah Godby, George Barnett,, ----, -------, --------, Cassidy Eugene Ishmael, 1904, ------, J. E. Wright Blitha, Ishmael, 1904, -----, J. E. Wright Anna Bowen, 1905, -----, W. L. Clark, Thomas Flora, 1905, Baptism, W. L. Clark, By Ch Con Aug 22, '11 Parker Selby, 1905, ------, W. L. Clark, Hopkins Aescul ?, -- ------, Josiah Godby, Died July 15 1910

    01/10/2000 10:15:39
    1. [KYNICHOL] Ishmael Chapel continued
    2. Jean Dalrymple
    3. Nicholas County KY, Ishmael Chapel Church records: There are new entries in this section of the book as well as recaps of the previous postings. Some having new information ie: dates of death. That looks as tho there were many different hands posting in that area., and there seems to be more dates of death here. The writing is hard to read and the spelling leaves a LOT to be desired. We were allowed to make copies of the book several years ago while I was in KY doing research, the book was found under the floor boards of the old church. I have no idea where the book is today as the lady is now passed on. I will not use the "'s that are in the book. Jeannie Blake-Dalrymple The Complete Church Register ISHMAEL CHAPEL Ky Conference Methodist Episcopal Church South Nashville, Tenn.: Southern Methodist Publishing House 1884 Register of Members: Name, When Received, How Received, by Whom Received, Date of Death or Disposal. --metta Buchannan, 1900, From Stony Church, Josiah Godby, letter to Shinkle Church Covington J 23 0 Artur Buchannan, 1900, from Stony Church, Josiah Godby, Dropped June 24 '09 -oid Mann, 1900, from Stony Church, Josiah Godby, --rrie Walton Laurence, 1900, from Stony Church, Josiah Godby, by Chu. Con. Aug 22, '11 --ildia Walton, 1900, from Stony church, Josiah Godby, Lost sight of Marshal Walton, 1900, from Stony Church, Josiah Godby, By order Ch. Con. Aug 22, '11 Thomas Workeman, 1900, from Stony Church, Josiah Godby, Lost sight of * T Dampier, 1900, from Stony Church, Josiah Goodby Benjamin Wilson, 1900, from Stony Church, Josiah Godby, Removed Clarince Snapp, 1900, from Stony Church, Josiah Godby, Dropped Nannie Wilson, 1900, from Stony Church, Josiah Godby, Dropped Rosia Bell Hollar, 1900, from Stony Church, Josiah Godby, Removed. --------------------- jd <><

    01/10/2000 10:01:14
    1. [KYNICHOL] FW: [KYBRACKE] LOOKING BACK IN BRACKEN COUNTY
    2. Jean Dalrymple
    3. -----Original Message----- From: GAMBLINBOB@aol.com [mailto:GAMBLINBOB@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 6:48 PM To: KYBRACKE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYBRACKE] LOOKING BACK IN BRACKEN COUNTY In the December 30th issue of the BRACKEN COUNTY NEWS, published in Brooksville, Kentucky, there is a column called LOOKING BACK, Compiled by John E. Leming, Jr., Bracken County Historian. (The column does appear every week throughout the year!) John has several questions that he has asked the readers to help him with, so thought I would post his questions here and maybe he will get help from Bracken researchers via the internet. His death records for December, 1899, show the last recorded death for Bracken County on 12/29/1899, being Hayes Sroube, male, born in Bracken County and died in Bracken County. His birth records show that the last recorded birth for Bracken County, is for a female infant on 12/30/1899, with no Mother listed by the Father is listed as Grant Howard. If any researcher knows the infant or the mother, let him know. If there are any known deaths of births in the county after those dates but before January 1, 1900, let him know that also. The first of his recorded births of 1900 lists a female infant born January 14, 1900 to Willie Mains (father) and the mother's maiden name only shown as Kiskaden. John is a dedicated genealogist and all around nice guy. His e mail address is jonlem1@aol.com Maybe someone can help fill in the blanks for this Bracken County Historian. Thanks very much, Mary Ann Case Ashworth formerly of Bracken County transplanted to Pasadena, California ==== KYBRACKE Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE send a new e-mail to KYBRACKE-L-request@rootsweb.com or KYBRACKE-D-request@rootsweb.com with nothing in the body of the e-mail except the word unsubscribe.

    01/09/2000 06:36:06
    1. [KYNICHOL] FW: The Library of Virginia Home Page
    2. Jean Dalrymple
    3. This is a good research site sent us by Laura.... Enjoy, Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Laura Miller [mailto:slssmiller@netzero.net] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 10:59 PM To: Jean Dalrymple Subject: The Library of Virginia Home Page Do you want to share this with the list? Laura http://www.lva.lib.va.us/ __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

    01/09/2000 06:30:35
    1. Re: [KYNICHOL] Lizaville
    2. Yes. Ilizaville is in Fleming or Mason County. I believe it is off US 68, near Mays Lick. and Flemingsburg.

    01/07/2000 06:34:25
    1. Unidentified subject!
    2. k barnes
    3. I ran across this on the KYBOURBO-L Could be helpful Kay http://www.main.nc.us/OBCGS/epidemics.htm

    01/06/2000 06:20:49
    1. [KYNICHOL] Fwd: FW: Death Certificate
    2. k barnes
    3. --WebTV-Mail-28563-1335 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-28563-1335 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-3.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.120) by storefull-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:45:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <WAGONER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by mailsorter-101-3.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-d/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id LAA05121; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA15265; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 08:47:39 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 08:47:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Chris Wagoner" <cwcrash@bellsouth.net> Old-To: <waggoners@onelist.com>, <Wagoner-l@rootsweb.com> Subject: FW: Death Certificate Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:47:27 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01bf5865$b73ef180$45cccbcf@santafe.cc.fl.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <cTaGZ.A.GuD.qcMd4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: WAGONER-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: WAGONER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <WAGONER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/400 X-Loop: WAGONER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: WAGONER-L-request@rootsweb.com Anyone interested in this?? -----Original Message----- From: Calista Sanderson [mailto:calista@pyramid3.net] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:45 AM Subject: Death Certificate I have a death certificate from Iowa that was sent to me by mistake from the state of Iowa when I was searching for my grandfathers...here is what it says so you might post so if anyone in the family would like it they can have it only cost is a stamped self addressed envelope..... Original Standard Certificate of Death Place of death; County;.....Wayne State: Iowa Registration Number: 66 Township: Walnut City: Seymour Full name: Wesley WAGNER Sex; male Color; White Married; yes Wife; Mary Date of Birth: September 12, 1847 Date of Death; May 36, 1923 Age; 75 years 8 months 14 days Occupation: Attorney at Law Birth Place; Ohio Father: Joseph B. WAGNER Birth place: Prussia? Mother: Mary E. Shipley Birth place: Maryland Filed May 26, 1923 Place of Burial: Seymour, Iowa Date: May 28, 1923 It tells what he died of which is very hard to read. If anyone is interested write me at calista@pyramid3.net --WebTV-Mail-28563-1335--

    01/06/2000 03:38:57
    1. Re: [KYNICHOL] Lizaville
    2. charles r. carter
    3. Now that sounds like dear old Ellisville, adjacent to the big city of Shakerag! At 10:14 AM 1/6/00 EST, you wrote: >Yes North on US 68 from Carlisle, before you get to Blue Licks > > >==== KYNICHOL Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE send a new e-mail to KYNICHOL-L-request@rootsweb.com or KYNICHOL-D-request@rootsweb.com with nothing in the body of the e-mail except the word unsubscribe. >

    01/06/2000 03:05:13
    1. Re: [KYNICHOL] Lizaville
    2. charles r. carter
    3. You guessed it!. At 06:36 AM 1/6/00 -0700, you wrote: >OK... you folks out there in Nicholas Co land... where is Lizaville... is >it the same as Elizaville? > >J. <>< > > >==== KYNICHOL Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE send a new e-mail to KYNICHOL-L-request@rootsweb.com or KYNICHOL-D-request@rootsweb.com with nothing in the body of the e-mail except the word unsubscribe. >

    01/06/2000 02:58:40
    1. Re: [KYNICHOL] Lizaville
    2. Barbara Jane Cowan
    3. Jeannie, I think you probably mean Ellisville. Past Blue Licks in Nicholas Co. Jane ---------- > From: Jean Dalrymple <motherd@theriver.com> > To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KYNICHOL] Lizaville > Date: Thursday, January 06,2000 7:36 AM > > OK... you folks out there in Nicholas Co land... where is Lizaville... is > it the same as Elizaville? > > J. <>< > > > ==== KYNICHOL Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE send a new e-mail to KYNICHOL-L-request@rootsweb.com or KYNICHOL-D-request@rootsweb.com with nothing in the body of the e-mail except the word unsubscribe. >

    01/06/2000 02:06:01
    1. [KYNICHOL] useful information
    2. Jean Dalrymple
    3. > http://library.thinkquest.org/11170/ > http://www.southernroots.com/epidemics.htm > http://www.main.nc.us/OBCGS/epidemics.htm > You might want to leave off the http:// These are most interesting sights and will help explain why many died and moved to other locations in the early years... enjoy . Jeannie <><

    01/06/2000 01:49:21
    1. [KYNICHOL] tid-bits
    2. Jean Dalrymple
    3. > > Ablepsy - Blindness > Ague - Malarial Fever > American plague - Yellow fever > Anasarca - Generalized massive edema > Aphonia - Laryngitis > Aphtha - The infant disease "thrush" > Apoplexy - Paralysis due to stroke > Asphycsia/Asphicsia - Cyanotic and lack of oxygen > Atrophy - Wasting away or diminishing in size. > Bad Blood - Syphilis > Bilious fever - Typhoid, malaria, hepatitis or elevated temperature and > bile emesis > Biliousness - Jaundice associated with liver disease > Black plague or death - Bubonic plague > Black fever - Acute infection with high temperature and dark red skin > lesions and high mortality rate > Black pox - Black Small pox > Black vomit - Vomiting old black blood due to ulcers or yellow fever > Blackwater fever - Dark urine associated with high temperature > Bladder in throat - Diphtheria (Seen on death certificates) > Blood poisoning - Bacterial infection; septicemia > Bloody flux - Bloody stools > Bloody sweat - Sweating sickness > Bone shave - Sciatica > Brain fever - Meningitis > Breakbone - Dengue fever > Bright's disease - Chronic inflammatory disease of kidneys > Bronze John - Yellow fever > Bule - Boil, tumor or swelling > Cachexy - Malnutrition > Cacogastric - Upset stomach > Cacospysy - Irregular pulse > Caduceus - Subject to falling sickness or epilepsy > Camp fever - Typhus; aka Camp diarrhea > Canine madness - Rabies, hydrophobia > Canker - Ulceration of mouth or lips or herpes simplex > Catalepsy - Seizures / trances > Catarrhal - Nose and throat discharge from cold or allergy > Cerebritis - Inflammation of cerebrum or lead poisoning > Chilblain - Swelling of extremities caused by exposure to cold > Child bed fever - Infection following birth of a child > Chin cough - Whooping cough > Chlorosis - Iron deficiency anemia > Cholera - Acute severe contagious diarrhea with intestinal lining > sloughing > Cholera morbus - Characterized by nausea, vomiting, abdominal cramps, > elevated temperature, etc. Could be appendicitis > Cholecystitus - Inflammation of the gall bladder > Cholelithiasis - Gall stones > Chorea - Disease characterized by convulsions, contortions and dancing > Cold plague - Ague which is characterized by chills > Colic - An abdominal pain and cramping > Congestive chills - Malaria > Consumption - Tuberculosis > Congestion - Any collection of fluid in an organ, like the lungs > Congestive chills - Malaria with diarrhea > Congestive fever - Malaria > Corruption - Infection > Coryza - A cold > Costiveness - Constipation > Cramp colic - Appendicitis > Crop sickness - Overextended stomach > Croup - Laryngitis, diphtheria, or strep throat > Cyanosis - Dark skin color from lack of oxygen in blood > Cynanche - Diseases of throat > Cystitis - Inflammation of the bladder > Day fever - Fever lasting one day; sweating sickness > Debility - Lack of movement or staying in bed > Decrepitude - Feebleness due to old age > Delirium tremens - Hallucinations due to alcoholism > Dengue - Infectious fever endemic to East Africa > Dentition - Cutting of teeth > Deplumation - Tumor of the eyelids which causes hair loss > Diary fever - A fever that lasts one day > Diptheria - Contagious disease of the throat > Distemper - Usually animal disease with malaise, discharge from nose and > throat, anorexia > Dock fever - Yellow fever > Dropsy - Edema (swelling), often caused by kidney or heart disease > Dropsy of the Brain - Encephalitis > Dry Bellyache - Lead poisoning > Dyscrasy - An abnormal body condition > Dysentery - Inflammation of colon with frequent passage of mucous and > blood > Dysorexy - Reduced appetite > Dyspepsia - Indigestion and heartburn. Heart attack symptoms > Dysury - Difficulty in urination > Eclampsy - Symptoms of epilepsy, convulsions during labor > Ecstasy - A form of catalepsy characterized by loss of reason > Edema - Nephrosis; swelling of tissues > Edema of lungs - Congestive heart failure, a form of dropsy > Eel thing - Erysipelas > Elephantiasis - A form of leprosy > Encephalitis - Swelling of brain; aka sleeping sickness > Enteric fever - Typhoid fever > Enterocolitis - Inflammation of the intestines > Enteritis - Inflations of the bowels > Epitaxis - Nose bleed > Erysipelas - Contagious skin disease, due to Streptococci with vesicular > and bulbous lesions > Extravasted blood - Rupture of a blood vessel > Falling sickness - Epilepsy > Fatty Liver - Cirrhosis of liver > Fits - Sudden attack or seizure of muscle activity > Flux - An excessive flow or discharge of fluid like hemorrhage or > diarrhea > Flux of humour - Circulation > French pox - Syphilis > Gathering - A collection of pus > Glandular fever - Mononucleosis > Great pox - Syphilis > Green fever / sickness - Anemia > Grippe/grip - Influenza like symptoms > Grocer's itch - Skin disease caused by mites in sugar or flour > Heart sickness - Condition caused by loss of salt from body > Heat stroke - Body temperature elevates because of surrounding > environment temperature and body does not perspire to reduce temperature. > Coma and death result if not reversed > Hectical complaint - Recurrent fever > Hematemesis - Vomiting blood > Hematuria - Bloody urine > Hemiplegy - Paralysis of one side of body > Hip gout - Osteomylitis > Horrors - Delirium tremens > Hydrocephalus - Enlarged head, water on the brain > Hydropericardium - Heart dropsy > Hydrophobia - Rabies > Hydrothroax - Dropsy in chest > Hypertrophic - Enlargement of organ, like the heart > Impetigo - Contagious skin disease characterized by pustules > Inanition - Physical condition resulting from lack of food > Infantile paralysis - Polio > Intestinal colic - Abdominal pain due to improper diet > Jail fever - Typhus > Jaundice - Condition caused by blockage of intestines > > King's evil - Tuberculosis of neck and lymph glands > Kruchhusten - Whooping cough > Lagrippe - Influenza > Lockjaw - Tetanus or infectious disease affecting the muscles of > the neck and jaw. Untreated, it is fatal in 8 days > Long sickness - Tuberculosis > Lues disease - Syphilis > Lues venera - Venereal disease > Lumbago - Back pain > Lung fever - Pneumonia > Lung sickness - Tuberculosis > Lying in - Time of delivery of infant > Malignant sore throat - Diphtheria > Mania - Insanity > Marasmus - Progressive wasting away of body, like malnutrition > Membranous Croup - Diphtheria > Meningitis - Inflations of brain or spinal cord > Metritis - Inflammation of uterus or purulent vaginal discharge > Miasma - Poisonous vapors thought to infect the air > Milk fever - Disease from drinking contaminated milk, like undulant fever > or brucellosis > Milk leg - Post partum thrombophlebitis > Milk sickness - Disease from milk of cattle which had eaten poisonous > weeds > Mormal - Gangrene > Morphew - Scurvy blisters on the body > Mortification - Gangrene of necrotic tissue > Myelitis - Inflammation of the spine > Myocarditis - Inflammation of heart muscles > Necrosis - Mortification of bones or tissue > Nephrosis - Kidney degeneration > Nepritis - Inflammation of kidneys > Nervous prostration - Extreme exhaustion from inability to control > physical and mental activities > Neuralgia - Described as discomfort, such as "Headache" was neuralgia in > head > Nostalgia - Homesickness > Palsy - Paralysis or uncontrolled movement of controlled muscles. It was > listed as "Cause of death" > Paroxysm - Convulsion > Pemphigus - Skin disease of watery blisters > Pericarditis - Inflammation of heart > Peripneumonia - Inflammation of lungs > Peritonotis - Inflammation of abdominal area > Petechial Fever - Fever characterized by skin spotting > Puerperal exhaustion - Death due to child birth > Phthiriasis - Lice infestation > Phthisis - Chronic wasting away or a name for tuberculosis > Plague - An acute febrile highly infectious disease with a high fatality > rate > Pleurisy - Any pain in the chest area with each breath > Podagra - Gout > Poliomyelitis - PolioPotter's asthma - Fibroid pthisis > Pott's disease - Tuberculosis of spine > Puerperal exhaustion - Death due to childbirth > Puerperal fever - Elevated temperature after giving birth to an infant > Puking fever - Milk sickness > Putrid fever - Diphtheria. > Quinsy - Tonsillitis. > Remitting fever - Malaria > Rheumatism - Any disorder associated with pain in joints > Rickets - Disease of skeletal system > Rose cold - Hay fever or nasal symptoms of an allergy > Rotanny fever - (Child's disease) ??? > Rubeola - German measles > Sanguineous crust - Scab > Scarlatina - Scarlet fever > Scarlet fever - A disease characterized by red rash > Scarlet rash - Roseola > Sciatica - Rheumatism in the hips > Scirrhus - Cancerous tumors > Scotomy - Dizziness, nausea and dimness of sight > Scrivener's palsy - Writer's cramp > Screws - Rheumatism > Scrofula - Tuberculosis of neck lymph glands. Progresses slowly with > abscesses and pistulas develop. Young person's disease > Scrumpox - Skin disease, impetigo > Scurvy - Lack of vitamin C. Symptoms of weakness, spongy gums > and hemorrhages under skin > Septicemia - Blood poisoning > Shakes - Delirium tremens > Shaking - Chills, ague > Shingles - Viral disease with skin blisters > Ship fever - Typhus > Siriasis - Inflammation of the brain due to sun exposure > Sloes - Milk sickness > Small pox - Contagious disease with fever and blisters > Softening of brain - Result of stroke or hemorrhage in the brain, with > an end result of the tissue softening in that area > Sore throat distemper - Diphtheria or quinsy > Spanish influenza - Epidemic influenza > Spasms - Sudden involuntary contraction of muscle or group of muscles, > like a convulsion > Spina bifida - Deformity of spine > Spotted fever - Either typhus or meningitis > Sprue - Tropical disease characterized by intestinal disorders and sore > throat > St. Anthony's fire - Also erysipelas, but named so because of affected > skin areas are bright red in appearance > St. Vitas dance - Ceaseless occurrence of rapid complex jerking movements > performed involuntary > Stomatitis - Inflammation of the mouth > Stranger's fever - Yellow fever > Strangery - Rupture > Sudor anglicus - Sweating sickness > Summer complaint - Diarrhea, usually in infants caused by spoiled milk > Sunstroke - Uncontrolled elevation of body temperature due to > environment heat. Lack of sodium in the body is a predisposing cause > Swamp sickness - Could be malaria, typhoid or encephalitis > Sweating sickness - Infectious and fatal disease common to UK in 15th > century > Tetanus - Infectious fever characterized by high fever, headache > and dizziness > Thrombosis - Blood clot inside blood vessel > Thrush - Childhood disease characterized by spots on mouth, lips and > throat > Tick fever - Rocky mountain spotted fever > Toxemia of pregnancy - Eclampsia > Trench mouth - Painful ulcers found along gum line, Caused by poor > nutrition and poor hygiene > Tussis convulsiva - Whooping cough > Typhus - Infectious fever characterized high fever, headache, and > dizziness > Variola - Smallpox > Venesection - Bleeding > Viper's dance - St. Vitus Dance > Water on brain - Enlarged head > White swelling - Tuberculosis of the bone > Winter fever - Pneumonia > Womb fever - Infection of the uterus. > Worm fit - Convulsions associated with teething, worms, elevated > temperature or diarrhea > Yellowjacket - Yellow fever

    01/06/2000 01:49:13
    1. [KYNICHOL] tib bits iof useful or not so useful information of our ancestors
    2. Jean Dalrymple
    3. Here's the rest of the story. Just thought you might appreciate this interesting historical information about life in the 1500's: Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May and were still smelling pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the b.o. Baths equaled a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually loose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water." Houses had thatched roofs. Thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the pets, dogs, cats and other small animals, mice, rats, bugs lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs." There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed A real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could really mess up your nice clean bed. So, they found if they made beds with big posts and hung a sheet over the top, it addressed that problem. Hence those beautiful big 4 poster beds with canopies. The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying "dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors which would get slippery in the winter when wet. So they spread thresh on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on they kept adding more thresh until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed at the entry way, hence a "thresh hold." They cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They mostly ate vegetables and didn't get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had been in there for a month. Hence the rhyme: peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." Sometimes they could obtain pork and would feel really special when that happened. When company came over, they would bring out some bacon and hang it to show it off. It was a sign of wealth and that a man "could really bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit Around and "chew the fat." Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with a high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food. This happened most often with tomatoes, so they stopped eating tomatoes for 400 years. Most people didn't have pewter plates, but had trenchers - a piece of wood with the middle cooped out like a bowl. Trenchers were never washed and a lot of times worms got into the wood. After eating off wormy trenchers, they would get "trench mouth." Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the "upper crust." Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a "wake." England is old and small and they started running out of places to bury people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take their bones to a house and re-use the grave. In reopening these coffins, one out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string on their wrist and lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night to listen for the bell. Hence on the "graveyard shift" they would know that someone was "saved by the bell" or he was a "dead ringer."

    01/06/2000 01:22:46