With the compliments of our hard working friend Hermon B. Fagley....... He has submitted this to another list I am on, and feel that it is good information for ALL of us..... Old hands and beginners..... Thanks Hermon! I spend 3/4 of my research trying to research to prove of disprove what others say..... this confirms what I have always taught..... PROVE EVERYTHING... tho this is often hard to do... and often takes years... it is worthwhile . Jeannie <>< NTERNET GENEALOGY - WHAT'S GOOD! WHAT'S NOT! . . . AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? by Bettie Cummings Cook, CG [Published in The Packet, Tri-State Genealogical Society, Evansville, IN, vol.XXII, no. 2 (Dec. 1998)] Before computers there were two kinds of genealogists. The experienced and the beginners. The experienced passed their knowledge to the beginners. The "experienced" covered degrees of knowledge from more than a beginner to years of work in the field. The work was too new to the beginner to do much adventuring except acquire blank family charts, work at finding dates and places, and take advantage of seminars, classes, and advice from friendly experienced genealogists. They learned as they went along about where, and how, to look for dates and places. If they did rush to judgment those who had worked at the problem longer quickly called them to task. They were usually chastised sufficiently to be more careful with future endeavors. Still-they learned and eventually passed into being experienced. Enter the undeserving villain . . . Internet Genealogy! What's Good! With the addition of the computer to the home the experienced genealogist became a computer-user and continued to apply his work habits and expertise with the aid of the computer. The world of the Internet opened boundless possibilities of accessing records to the genealogist. Email is an amazing convenience to make contact with others and receive an answer within minutes. The knowledge to be gained on subjects without leaving your chair is staggering. The genealogical sites of interest range from very interesting to ho-hum. There are records of federal, state, and local levels of government, library card catalogs, resource files that are easily downloaded, and sites dedicated to specific records such as land, marriages, etc. If you have great grandpa's gun he carried in the Civil War, you can learn about its make, model, and manufacturer by consulting a website on Civil War guns. An antique piece of furniture handed down in the family may be identified as to its age and maker from sites that discuss descriptive markings, styles, and time periods. You are not confined to US searches. Research on a family said to have owned and operated a winery in Germany led to a list on a German web site of existing wineries. Think of a subject and, except in rare instances, Internet has some data. What's Not! The Internet has developed a new group of family searchers. Unfortunately, the experienced genealogist is in the minority. There is new group of persons who know first how to use a computer and second want to locate others who can give them information about their families. Notice I do not call the second group genealogists because they are lacking in the skills to prepare them for productive research. Before Internet this person would have been the beginner genealogist sitting across the table from you in a library. The computer-user/researcher cruises the Internet hoping to find his family tree, unaware there is a more accurate way to find it using primary records. The cruiser, who in the past would have had no recourse except to go a genealogical library and learn the skills, now sets up a webpage or a newsgroup in quest of the answers. He contributes uncited "merry-go-round" bits to others. His heart is in the right place but his ability to do research is not. He is totally oblivious to the fact he is doing more harm than good both to himself and others. Is it ever safe to use undocumented material found on the Internet? Not unless you verify it first with proper sources. Some of it may be right but how much faith can you put in rehashed, regurgitated, uncited data? A typical appeal looks like . . . "my grandfather died July 4, 1920. Does anyone know who his parents were?" or "my Great Grandfather was John Right born 1848. He married Jane ?. They lived in New County and had seven children. I don't know their names . . . ." Most of us quickly assess these queries as being from beginners. And ask ourselves why haven't you looked in a census? Why don't you write for a marriage bond? Why don't you get a death certificate? Why are you taking up byte space and my time to read this unskilled query? It is easier to ignore this query than deal with it. But where will this searcher turn next? To undocumented websites, forums, and various tree programs on the 'Net. He finds and records incorrect data and passes it to another person. Thus, the data is repeated in the name of "helping" for the next twenty-five years. No one knows the data's origins but will not discard it because "it might be something." Recently a friend was horrified to learn an ancestor, to whom she devoted years of work in order to identify his parents, had been added to a different set of parents with the same surname on an Internet site. The data was added by a computer-user/searcher because his ancestor had a son by the same name. Now if you have any experience at all, you know how many times several men can have the same name! After a number of determined phone calls to everyone responsible for the error, she succeeded in having it removed. But not until she proved to the website her ancestor was a different man and sent an obituary for the correct man to prove he had died in another state. And worse, her well-documented work on the son and his descendants was included on the website. It had been contributed by still another person without giving credit to her for the work. It gave every appearance of being a good genealogy with citations . . . except for the one link between parents and the right son. This example of assuming and combining data to make a family "fit" ought to make you shudder. What Are We Going to Do About It? One of the most agreeable attributes of genealogists is their willingness and unselfishness in sharing data. Some of the nicest people one could ever hope to meet share my enthusiasm for research. We regale each other endlessly with our "finds." The faceless aspect of the Internet keeps us from the personal evaluation of others that takes place in a face to face encounter. The truth is, there are a very few unpleasant folks in genealogy. So it is hard to think ill of those pursuing their families on the Internet without research experience. If we could talk to them, we would treat them as we would the beginner sitting next to us in the library. So how do we treat a faceless beginner on the Internet? WE HELP THEM. Not by sending all the answers but by pointing out where they should look to find the answers. This person needs the experience of looking at a microfilmed census. Don't deny him the thrill of finding grandfather's death certificate for himself. There's no better way to convert the beginner to learning research skills than for him to make an exciting discovery. TELL them data must have citations. Let your data be good examples by always clearly citing your source. Give county, book, and page from which the record was taken. Cite published book sources with title, compiler, publisher, year published, and page. INSIST on receiving the same citations from others. Contact the websites, newsgroups, and databases and encourage them to ask for citations. Kindly and tactfully point out to web searchers information is useless without documentation. Direct them to local libraries and genealogical collections. Tell them what genealogical societies have to offer. Beginners are often under the mistaken notion that because they live far away from their ancestor's residence there is nothing in their locale of any use. Net-cruisers who are interested in genealogy must be made aware of how much they accomplish by using source records and learning skills necessary to locate family data. Finding a cousin is fine but no matter how much the cousin can tell you it still has to be verified. My posting to a surname website encourages everyone to cite his or her data. 1 am careful to post cited items and explain there is more to be found by examining that record. It is beginning to show results. The web master was reluctant to post my first message regarding citations for fear it might offend someone. Surprisingly (to him) some readers of the site wrote and agreed. The surname site is developing into a source of information. It is a website of various documented records on the same surname from many states and, if you share that surname, is one worth visiting because most postings bear citations. One of the main features of Internet is the broad coverage of the county. For the experienced genealogist, it is this aspect of reachable records in many states that is most useful and one that needs to be developed. Let us think past the materials found on the bookshelf of any genealogical collection and begin to build sites that represent our county's records. The flood of incorrect data making the rounds on the 'Net is growing. It is comparable to undocumented family genealogies, early DAR records, and early LDS family files. Both DAR and LDS are making efforts to correct their early files. The 'Net has no one to guide it except experienced genealogists who care. We can no longer afford to ignore the unskilled query. Few of us have the inclination, or want to take the time, to deal with the unskilled and the inexperienced 'Net searchers. Someone is going to have to step up to the flood and help with the sandbags. If each of us concentrates on improving the site concerning our surname, or a site under the sponsorship of our local group, together we can make a difference. We must make an effort to deal with this growing problem. Get on your soapbox for the sake of good genealogy on the Internet! ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

1. In the front yard of a funeral home: "Drive carefully, we'll wait." 2. On an electrician's truck: "Let us look into your shorts." 3. Outside a radiator repair shop: "Best place in town to take a leak." 4. In a non-smoking area: "If we see you smoking, we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate action." 5. On a maternity room door: "PUSH, PUSH, PUUUUUSSSSSHHHH!" 6. On a front door: "Everyone on the premises is a vegetarian EXCEPT THE DOG." 7. At an optometrist's office; "If you don't see what you're looking for, you've come to the right place." 8. On a taxidermist's window "We really know our stuff." 9. On a butcher's window "Let me meat your needs." 10. On a fence "Salesmen welcome. Dog food is expensive." 11. At a car dealership; "The best way to get back on your feet - miss a car payment." 12. Outside a muffler shop: "No appointment necessary. We'll hear you coming." 13. In a dry cleaner's emporium: "Drop your pants here." 14. On a desk in a reception area: "We shoot every 3rd salesman, and the 2nd one just left." 15. In a veterinarian's waiting room: "Be back in 5 minutes. Sit! Stay!"

Hi Listers!! I am new to the list and I am hoping to get some help. I live in Florida, so I'm doing all of my research through mail, phone calls and internet. I am trying to research the parentage of Abner Moncrief, b. Aug. 23, 1797 in Nicholas Co., KY. His obit says he died 28 Jun 1873 in Pressburg, IN (I have yet to locate Pressburg!). Is anyone out there familiar with the Moncrief family? The closest I've come is locating a Caleb Moncrief, b. 11 Sept. 1791 in Nicholas Co., s/o Maxwell Moncrief and Elizabeth Wilson. Maxwell was b. abt 1746 in NC and died abt 10 Jun 1801 in Nicholas Co. I am hoping Caleb is Abner's brother! Elizabeth died abt 1838 in Jefferson Co., IN. Caleb married Jane Blackburn on 7 Jul 1812 in Madison Co., KY? and he died 6 Jan 1870 in either KY or Jennings Co., IN. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated! Karen

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> > > A little girl, dressed in her Sunday best, was running as fast as she > could, trying not to be late for Sunday School. As she ran she prayed, > "Dear Lord, please don't let me be late! Dear Lord, please don't let me > be late!" > > As she was running and praying, she tripped on a curb and fell, getting > her clothes dirty and tearing her dress. She got up, brushed herself off, > and started running again. As she ran she once again began to pray, > "Dear Lord, please don't let me be late!...But don't shove me either." >

I am forwarding this from Sandi's list, I too have permission from to forward any of her Tips or Bios... Jeannie <>< TIP #247: HOW TO FIND TREASURES AT THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES. I am thrilled to use this column by George G. Morgan with permission granted by the author and Ancestry both. My thanks for this permission! "I frequently hear from readers that they would like to check to see if the National Archives has anything about their ancestors. Many say that they are intimidated by the volume of what might be there, or by the bureaucracy involved with requesting copies of records. Another E-mail arrived this week from a reader who would like to help a friend overseas to access and use the National Archives. Let me tell you that the National Archives is a great place to find materials and that they are easy to work with! In "Along Those Lines . . . " this week, let's discuss the National Archives of the United States and the tremendous resources at their Web site that can help you best use their resources. BACKGROUND. The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is the repository for many of the historical treasures of the United States. Besides the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights are many, many documents of our national history. These include materials such as: military and service records for the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Civil War, the Spanish American War, and World War I; many ships' passenger arrival records; some immigration and naturalization records; records from the Freedman's Savings and Trust Company and other records of interest to African American researchers; microfilm of the decennial Federal census records from 1790 through 1920 (minus almost all of 1890); Dawes Commission records and other records relating to Native American research; and a variety of other perhaps less common documents that may help you with your genealogical research. Genealogists and family historians are the most numerous of the users of NARA's resources. NARA has therefore compiled a Genealogy Page at their Web site, at http://www.nara.gov/genealogy, which contains an excellent collection of information of special interest to family history researchers. These include lists of free pamphlets and publications for sale that will help you determine what materials exist, where they are located, in what format they can be found (original vs. microform), and how to purchase any microform materials you might want to own. In order to access the NARA materials most efficiently, you need to know what NARA has and how to obtain copies. Your best starting point is at the NARA Web site at http://search.nara.gov. Here you will see tabs across the top of the Web page and a click on a tab takes you to a whole category of information. The "Research Room" tab is where you want to go first. THE ONLINE RESEARCH ROOM: The "Research Room" area is one of the genealogist's best resources for information at NARA. Did you know that there is more than one NARA facility? Many people think only of the building in Washington, DC. However, there also 13 regional NARA sites, as well as the presidential libraries. If you visit http://www.nara.gov/regional/nrmenu.html, you will find a list of all the sites, a general description of the materials held there, a Web address for each location with driving directions and hours, an E-mail address and a telephone number. Make certain that you know the correct place to contact or to visit for the records you seek. Different records are stored at different locations. RECORD GROUPS: To effectively locate materials held by NARA, you should understand a little about record groups. Record groups are categories of like materials A description of the record group concept at NARA can be found at http://www.nara.gov/research/tools/rgconcpt.html. A full catalog of record groups, their number, contents and location can also be found at http://www.nara.gov/research/findaids/abc/part_a.html (please note the underscore character between part and a in the address). If you take the time to review the lists of record groups, you will be amazed at the range of materials encompassed by the NARA holdings. PUBLICATIONS: NARA has a wide array of publications describing their holdings. Check their descriptions at http://www.nara.gov/publications/pubindex.html. A specific Web page containing aids for family historians can be found at http://www.nara.gov/publications/genihome.html. OBTAINING COPIES/USING THE RIGHT FORMS TO REQUEST THEM: Most important, however, to those of us who wish to obtain copies of specific records for our ancestors from NARA is the Web page, http://www.nara.gov/research/ordering/ordrfrms.html. This page contains information about the six types of records most requested by genealogists and the NARA forms required to obtain copies of those records. The record types and the forms required are: ~ Military service and pension records in the National Archives Building in Washington, DC (NATF Form 80) ~ Military service records in the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, MO (Standard Form 180) ~ Ship passenger arrival records (NATF Form 81) ~ Census records (NATF Form 82) ~ Eastern Cherokee land application records (NATF Form 83) ~ Land entry files (NATF Form 84) Information regarding how the forms can be easily obtained can also be found on this Web page. (Form 180 can be obtained from a Web site; all others can be requested by standard mail or E-mail by following instructions provided on the Web page.) ONLINE SEARCH FACILITIES: NARA has online search facilities at its site. Click on the 'Search' tab at the top of most screens at its Web site, or enter http://search.nara.gov in your Web browser program. Once you understand what a record group is, you may want to try a search of NARA's online catalog for records of interest to you. Here you can search both NARA's Web pages and their Web-based databases. Another online search facility is NAIL (the National Archival Information Locator), a prototype of the database ultimately intended to contain an index of all NARA's holdings. Some materials are there already, including text, maps, motion picture, sound and other materials. Some of these materials have been digitized and are available as part of the search results, serving as examples of what is available. As an example, starting to use NAIL at http://www.nara.gov/nara/searchnail.html, I used the NAIL Standard Search and entered the surname Abercrombie. The search results yielded some Selective Service System Registration Cards for several Abercrombies, some criminal defendant cases for people of this surname in the 1880s and 1890s, and some Dawes enrollment records for Native Americans from the Bureau of Indian Affairs, Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes. (NOTE: There are representative records from many areas of NARA but certainly not everything from NARA is represented and indexed in NAIL.) NAIL also provides a search of microfilm publications. For example, I submitted a search for the words 'post' and 'office' in hopes of locating microfilm records of old post offices. Sure enough, using NAIL I located four rolls of NARA's microfilm publications that contain information concerning post offices. ASKING QUESTIONS VIA E-MAIL: Finally, if you have searched the extensive NARA Web site and checked the catalogs and still have questions, you can contact NARA electronically. Go to their Web page at http://www.nara.gov/nara/mail.html# inquire and read the instructions for sending e-mail to NARA. Make sure you use the correct E-mail address for the right topic. Please be patient. You will find that the people at NARA are responsive and helpful but they do have a lot of E-mail inquiries. SUMMARY: As you can see, NARA is a very big place with a tremendous volume of historical records about the United States and about its citizens. As family history researchers, I will admit that it can seem overwhelming and that it might be a challenge to locate specific records there. The key here, as in all other effective research, is in your advance preparation. Obtaining free pamphlets and purchasing publications about NARA's resources is an excellent starting point. Invest some time in becoming familiar with what types of records you might find at the various NARA ites. Spend an enjoyable hour or two exploring the NARA Web pages mentioned above and others you encounter along the way. Experiment with NARA's online search facilities. Determine (and order) the forms you need to request copies of records of your ancestors. And finally, ask those still unanswered questions via the E-mail query facility. The quantity and quality of the materials at NARA can be invaluable to your genealogical research. I hope you will invest the time to learn how to use their resources and achieve some new successes in your research there, whether by mail or by visiting the correct location to work with documents in person. Happy Hunting! George, Copyright 2000, MyFamily.com. All rights reserved. Col. Sandi Gorin, 205 Clements,Glasgow, KY 42141 (270) 651-9114 - E-fax (707)222-1210 - e-mail:sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Member: Glasgow-Barren Co Chamber of Commerce Publishing: http://members.delphi.com/gorin1/index.html Barren Co: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kybarren/ TIPS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips KYBIOS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Bios ARCHIVES: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

4042 NICHOLAS CO - SNAPP, SARAH - Snapp Booth McMahill Hand Morse Butler Hanon Griffith Snelson Randall Foster Yast Waiste Barlow Willard Harrison May Camp Hendricks West Fowler Stokes Morris Simmons Brand Tunks Pence Stanton Durham Stapp Hedges Evans Brown Fry Renniger Myricks Harshbarger Hicks Starr South Gordon Stice Davis McIntyre #4042: EARLY DAYS IN GREENBUSH (WARREN CO IL) WITH BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES OF THE OLD SETTLERS BY WILLIAM L. SNAPP, Copyright, 1905. Nicholas Co. Sarah Snapp was born in Virginia, March 20, 1784. Her maiden name was Sarah McIntyre. She came with her parents to Kentucky, in 1789; and was married to George Snapp in Nicholas county, Kentucky, in 1802. He was born February 18, 1780, and died December 20, 1823. He was a son of George Snapp, who was killed by the Indians in Kentucky in an early day. To George Snapp and his wife Sarah were born the following-named children: John, born in 1811; died in Kentucky, in 1823. Maria, born in 1804; married William Booth. Her second marriage was to Joseph Wallace. She died in California, July 18, 1886. Mary, born in Nicholas county, Kentucky, February 22, 1806; married William McMahill, in 1827. She died August 31, 1877. He died June 6, 1881. Elizabeth, born in Nicholas county, Kentucky, February 2, 1808; married John Crawford. Her second marriage was to Moses T. Hand, December 23, 1835. She died August 19, 1898. Moses T. Hand died February 18, 1888. Franklin Greene was born in Nicholas county, Kentucky, October 18, 1812. He came to Illinois in 1833; settled in Greenbush township in 1834. He was united in marriage to Miss Adeline Morse. She was born May 6, 1816. To this union the following-named children were born: Maria Jane, born October 9, 1833 married John A. Butler, November 22, 1849. Samuel M., born May 22, 1835; married Saphronia Hanon. He died October 11, 1891. George L., born June 4, 1838; married Emiline Griffith. Albert N., born May 18, 1840; married Mrs. Matilda Nelson. Caroline, born June 1, 1843; married Dr. William Randall. She died May 20, 1875. He died October 23, 1888. John R., born April 14, 1846; married Clara Foster. After receiving a divorce from her, he was married to Alma Yast, in April, 1879. Mary C., born December 23, 1848; died December 10, 1850. Ada Ann, born October 20, 1851; died November 11, 1858. Amanda E., born May 12, 1854; resides at Buffalo, New York, where she is engaged teaching music. Emma P., born February- 16, 1857; married Alphonso Waiste. They reside in Canada. F. G. Snapp was engaged in an early day in Greenfield, in the mercantile business; and in later years he again engaged in the same line of business, making in all three or four times that he kept store in the village. He was a farmer and resided on the southwest quarter of section five for many years. He spent a great portion of his life in raising, buying, and selling livestock. In this line he was a man of excellent judgment. He was a trader in many lines of business, and would buy and sell anything from a cook stove to a gristmill. He was also an auctioneer and did considerable business in this line in the early days. In 1870, he purchased thoroughbred Durham cattle in Kentucky and brought them to Greenbush, which proved a great benefit to the country by improving the breed of cattle then here. He also shipped in several hundred bushels of bluegrass seed from Kentucky the same year. This grass seed being sown on timber lands, grew rapidly and soon spread over adjoining lands. At this time John W. Barlow was engaged in shipping Durham cattle and bluegrass seed from Kentucky. F. G. Snapp left his farm in Greenbush township and moved to Galesburg, where he spent his last years. He and his wife were members of the Methodist Episcopal church, having joined that denomination in early life and- retained their membership up to the time of their death. In polities he was a republican.He died April 10, 1895. his wife died September 22, 1898. Their remains rest in the cemetery at Abingdon, Illinois. Ezekiel M., born in Nicholas county, Kentucky, in 1816; married Lucinda Willard, October 19, 1839. He died October 1, 1842. She died January 21, 1899. To this union one son was born- William L., born February 12, 1842. He was married December 19, 1861, to Mary E. May. She was born April 19, 1843; and died November 21, 1900. She was a daughter of William and Susan (Harrison) May. To William L. Snapp and wife the following-named children were born: Alice Maud, born November 16, 1862; married Andrew B. Camp, January 18, 1883. Thomas, born February 23, 1864; married Mary J. Hendricks, January 5, 1889. Mary, born July 4, 1867; died March 21, 1869. William L., born August 2, 1871; married Minnie West, November 7, 1899. Carrie m., born August 19, 1874. Delos V., born August 17, 1876; married Emma Pauline Fowler, February 18, 1903. Russell. born March 9, 1878; married Maud D. Stokes, July 17, 1899. Ezekiel M., born January 28, 1880. Sumner, born November 25, 1881. William L. Snapp has held the offices in the township of town clerk, tax collector, justice of the peace, notary public, and school treasurer, and is the author of this work. In religion he is a Methodist. In politics he is a democrat. Robert M., son of George and Sarah Snapp, was born in Nicholas county. Kentucky, February 5, 1818. He was married three times. His first marriage was to Margaret A. Morse, in December, 1843. One child was born to them-Mary J. She died in infancy Margaret, wife of R. M. Snapp, died in 1844. His second marriage was to Adaliza Morris, March 26, 1849. She died December 23, 1856. To this union the following-named children were born: George H., born May 9, 1850; died October 13, 1872. Alberteen, born December 24, 1852; died January 8, 1873. Eugene, born December 24, 1852; died February 19, 1866. William, born October 15, 1854; died July 27, 1856. Austin, horn June 4, 1856; died September 26, 1872. His third marriage was to Mrs. Clarrissa Simmons, October 28 1858. She was the widow of James D. Simmons and daughter of Joab and Rebecca Morris. She died December 24, 1882. To this union the following-named children were born: Julius m., born October 29, 1859; died September 22, 1860. Arthur L., born February 27, 1861; now lives in DeKalb county, Missouri. Sarah F., born May 26, 1862; married David Tunks, February 2, 1883. He died in January, 1892. She was again married in 1895, to C. Brand, and now lives near Cameron, Missouri. Laura, born February 4, 1865; married Augustus Pence, March 15, 1885; now lives near King City, Missouri. Emma H., born March 5, 1867; married Hugh Stanton, April 7, 1895; now lives in Union Star, Missouri. Giles, born June 1, 1869; lives in DeKalb county, Missouri. Eva A., born September 28, 1872; married A. B. Durbin, January 13, 1892. They live in Gentry county, Missouri. Clara E., born December 20, 1874; married F. H. Everett. February 26, 1903; now living in St. Joe, Missouri. Robert M. Snapp was bugler in Captain Wyatt Stapp's company in the Mexican war. This company was mustered in at Quincy, Illinois, August 16, 1847, and returned July 29, 1848. Mr. Snapp was a farmer by occupation. He was justice of the peace in Greenbush towvnship for many years. He was possessed of a wonderful memory, and could give more dates of circumstances and events than any other man in the country. In polities, he was a democrat. He moved to Missouri in the spring of 1872, and died there June 21, 1899. William, son of George and Sarah Snapp, was born in Nicholas county, Kentucky, June 12, 1820. He was married to Elizabeth Hedges, June 21, 1845. To them were born the following-named children: Nathan B., born March 13, 1847; married Nannie Evans. March 1, 1874. They now live in Utah. Catherine, born March 27, 1848; married J. P. Reed, December 23, 1866. She died March 7, 1877. Ezekiel M., horn October 1, 1849; lives in northern California. James A., born March 28, 1851; married Phebe Tunks, September 13, 1874. She died December 24, 1876. His second marriage was to Rebecca J. Brown, November 7, 1883. They now reside on a farm near King City, Missouri. John W., born October 1, 1852; now hives in Clark county, Kansas. Sarah A., born May 25, 1854; married Jacob W. Fry, March 17, 1875. They reside in southern California. George, born February 21, 1856; married Mary Fry, November 3, 1876. They live in DeKalb county, Missouri. Mary, born September 1, 1857; married Jerry Renniger, in March, 1878. They reside in DeKalb county, Missouri William W., born July 18, 1859; married Verdie Myricks, in March, 1892. They reside in DeKalb county, Missouri. Evaline, born February 28, 1862; died in 1864. Eliza J., born September 29, 1864; married Joseph A. Fry, in 1888. They reside in Buchanan county, Missouri. Elizabeth A., born June 9, 1871; married Jacob Harshbarger, in 1901. They reside in Clark county, Kansas. William Snapp was a farmer by occupation. In his younger days he was engaged in burning brick, and was for a time engaged in the mercantile business. He also ran a steam sawmill company with his nephew, William L. Snapp, for several years in Greenbush. He was commissioner of highways and held other offices of trust in the township. In polities, he was a democrat. He moved to DeKalb county, Missouri, in June, 1868, where he died in August, 1883. His wife, who was five years younger than he, died in January, 1890. George, son of George and Sarah Snapp, was born in Nicholas county, Kentucky, September 12, 1823. He married Ann Rebecca Hicks, in 1853. She died February 12, 1875. To this union the following-named children were born: Oscar, born May 28, 1854; died December 28, 1863. William, born December 25, 1856; died March 10, 1864. Adeline, born May 12, 1858; died December 25, 1863. Elizabeth, born March 8, 1860. Robert M., born November 19, 1861; married Josie South, February 17, 1886. She was born June 24, 1864, and died November 12, 1897. Charles F., horn October 15, 1863; married Mary Starr. Lucy, born April 26, 1865; married Elijah H. South. Anna, born January 9, 1869; married Charles C. McClurg, December 29, 1888. Ada, born October 14, 1871; married William C. Gordon, November 21, 1894. Catherine, born February 6, 1873. George Snapp has been by occupation a farmer and stockman, and was at one time engaged in the mercantile business in Greenbush, He went to California, in 1850, in a company of twenty-seven men, driving ox teams. James C. Stice was captain of this company. His mess was composed of Robert M. Snapp, R. K. Belt, James C. Stice and himself. He returned to Greenbush township, in 1852, where he has since resided, except a short time he was in DeKaib county, Missouri. His second marriage was to Ann Davis, April 10, 1876. She was born in Jefferson county, Indiana, September 29, 1839. Sarah (McIntyre) Snapp, the subject of this sketch. was a woman of strong constitution, used to hardships from childhood. She early learned industrious habits, which she retained through life. In religion, she was a Methodist. She died November 26, 1859. Col. Sandi Gorin, 205 Clements,Glasgow, KY 42141 (270) 651-9114 - E-fax (707)222-1210 - e-mail:sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Member: Glasgow-Barren Co Chamber of Commerce Publishing: http://members.delphi.com/gorin1/index.html Barren Co: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kybarren/ TIPS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips KYBIOS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Bios ARCHIVES: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

4040 NICHOLAS CO - McMAHILL, WILLIAM - McMahill McIntyre Barnum Hall Hamilton Hogue Phillips Kepple Morris Ewings Hanks Sisson Morris #4040: EARLY DAYS IN GREENBUSH (WARREN CO IL) WITH BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES OF THE OLD SETTLERS BY WILLIAM L. SNAPP, Copyright, 1905. Nicholas Co. William McMahill was born in Nicholas county, Kentucky, December 23, 1806. He was a son of John and Susan (Burnet) McMahill. He was married in Kentucky, in 1827, to Mary Snapp. He was born February 22, 1806, and was a daughter of George and Sarah (McIntyre) Snapp. William McMahill and wife came to Sangamon county, Illinois, in 1830, where they resided until 1835, when they came to Greenbush, Warren county, Illinois. To them the following-named children were born: George, born March 8, 1829; married Frances Barnum, about the year 1854. He resides at Riverside, California. Susan B., born March 26, 1831; married Leonard Hall, March 25, 1852. He died July 28, 1896. Sarah, born May 16, 1833; married William J. Hamilton. Nancy Jane, born April 6, 1835; married Andrew J. Sisson. Elizabeth, born June 2, 1837. She fell into a kettle of hot lard and was so badly burned that she died the next morning. This occurred in March, 1839. Her grave was the first one in the McMahill graveyard. John, born in 1839; married Emily Hogue, at Yates City, Illinois. Ann m., born in 1842; married Allen S. Phillips, January 26, 1868. Pinckney, married Mary Ewings. Her maiden name was Mary Hanks. Mary E., died with scarlet fever when she was only four or five years old. Lucinda, died in infancy. William McMahill, the subject of this sketch, was by occupation a farmer and stock raiser. In politics he was a republican. In religion he was early connected with the Methodist Episcopal church and was for many years a local preacher in that denomination. His wife was also a member of the same church. Many religious meetings were held at their house in the early days. Mary, wife of William McMahill. died August 31, 1877. He died June 6, 1881. Col. Sandi Gorin, 205 Clements,Glasgow, KY 42141 (270) 651-9114 - E-fax (707)222-1210 - e-mail:sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Member: Glasgow-Barren Co Chamber of Commerce Publishing: http://members.delphi.com/gorin1/index.html Barren Co: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kybarren/ TIPS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips KYBIOS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Bios ARCHIVES: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Jeannie, thought you would like these jim dempsey from "Paris Vital Records 1817-1870" by Ford & Naegele, 1999 Western Citizen 6 May 1826: Departed this life on the 27th ulmo at his residence in Nicholas co. Tho. Throckmorton Sr. aged 87 years. He was born in Virginia on Feb 22 1740 from whence he migrated to Kentucky in 1801. Western Citizen 30 Sep 1826: On Sat. morning last a few minutes before 5:00 after severe illness of several weeks Mrs. Frances Conn, consort of Capt. Wm. Conn of this county [Bourbon]. Western Citizen Sat __ August 1823 On Tuesday evening last, by Rev. A. Eastin Col. James Conn of this county to Patsey Throckmorton, daughter of Col. Thomas Throckmorton of Nicholas Co. The True Kentuckian 22 Jul 1868: John T Camron married Mrs Elizabeth P. Henry by Dr. Varden Western Citizen Fri Dec. 1841 married on the 21st at the Lower Blue Lick, by Rev. J. T. Hendricks David Ballingal to miss Mary Paton both of that place abstract no time Dr. Charles E. Leuba married Mrs. Pauline B. Ware, she dau. of Neal Ballingal who died in prison. She widow of J.T.Ware, Harrison co. clerk, 2 children.

I am needing information on a William Fuller.I believe he might have been from Nicholas Co.The only information that I have on him is his approx. birth year,1842.He has a brother ,Taylor ,that lived in Nicholas Co. but I am not sure of the date.William moved to Carter Co. KY @ 1880.He is listed in that census with his wife,Frances and their children,Gabriel,Sherman,Jeff and William.This part of my family has been very hard to research and I am having a lot of difficulty getting any information.If this sounds familiar to anyone I would really appreciate the help.

I don't quite understand. For it seems days I have been following the saga of Nixon Covey and the inaccuracy of the records and who gave them to LDS. It seems that whoever gave them is really a nil point right now. Wouldn't it make more sense to spend the time submitting the accurate info to LDS as they will post both versions, I have seen this many times.Instead of trying to convince Jean Dalyrumple of the error. It doesn't appear there is anything she can do about it, and the correct version should be directed to LDS not to her or to the NIcholas county list.It is unfortunate that incorrect data was placed on there, BUT if you think about it--you are saying that someone you gave a copy to apparently gave it to LDS and the info was incorrect. If they did pass along your copies (which are correct) then how did they give them the wrong info. By passing your copies of copies along should they not have been passing along the same correct info that you have?? Fine, its not my business, but I have been reading it and this just occured to me. Whoever passed the info to the LDS obviously WAS NOT someone you gave a copy to OR THE INFO WOULD HAVE BEEN CORRECT. Does that make sense to anyone else?? Debra Carter tara37@comsys.net

Replying to; your last paragraph abt. getting on the web, I found his E-mail add. and wrote him a nice letter,naming a Mr. Jerry Walker,I had to make two long distance phone calls to get it, Thanks: Jan. Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > Dear Jan.. > > Sorry to tell you, but the LDS church does NOT microfilm ANYTHING with out > the WRITTEN permission of who ever is in charge... AND if the diary is in > the possession of your family then they had to have been CALLED and ASKED to > film it.... and there will be a disclaimer at the beginning of the item on > the film stating who GAVE the permission.. they did not break into your > families house and make a copy of the diary..... in fact there is usually a > copy of the orig. letter of permission. > > Now... anything that you give to them or any one else including the stuff > that you put out on the internet becomes the property of who ever you gave > it to unless you have given them WRITTEN notice that they are NOT to give > the information out to any one..... then they can do what ever with > it....... > > I am sorry that the person no longer lives at that addy, perhaps if you were > to get on the net and see if he is out there, you may be able to see where > he got his Information.. other wise check out and see what you can find in > Butler Co OH about your family.... > > Jeannie <>< > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Sexton [mailto:SugarSpoon@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:20 PM > To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYNICHOL] tid-bit > > Dear Jean, I tried to contact the person with no success after I found > out who it was after writing a letter and made a phone call, the person > apparently has his e-mail changed; because his mail came back to me > twice as I thought I had maybe made a mistake in his address after > I had written it down exactly has it was given to me. I wrote him a nice > letter, Someone told me that the Mormon Genealogy Society now has a copy > of his diary,thats ok, I am just wondering if we had told the people not > to let it out side the family, I really wonder if they would have done > it even thow they promised not to, I took a chance when I first made > copies of it, if it maybe would have done something to the ink as it was > quiet old, it was copied for me from the book its self, few years back, > now realizing that, I make copies from the copies that I copied from my > first copies that was given to me, make sence? > Thanks, Jan. > after my color came back, has I did not wont to write in haste. > > Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > > > Good morning Jan.... > > > > There are MANY err's in the LDS IGI and the Ancestorial file... > especially > > the ancestorial file, the reason there is, is that folks like you and I > > submit the information to the "Morman's" in the first place.... So who > > ever submitted that information got their information from some where > > else... you should contact that submitter... and ask NICELY where they > > obtained the information... > > > > ALSO.. I have found that many folks did NOT know where they were born way > > back then..... they did not celebrate birthdays etc and the elders did not > > talk much about such things.... So perhaps he THOUGHT that he was born in > > one place and he was born in another INROUTE some where, perhaps Cinci... > > as his family was moving West down the OH river.... > > > > I have a gent that swore that he was born in 1710 in PA.... I believed > him > > until just a few months ago I found that he was actually born in Scotland > in > > 1708.... He lived in PA for about 20 years, then moved South into SC. > > I found him and his siblings and parents on a ships record and then in to > > the church records in Scotland and his families church records in PA.... > > He just lived there and ASSUMED that he was born there...... > > > > Now as far as the different dates of birth, that is an easy one.... Some > > times we have to use baptism records...... and the date that you have for > > birth and the other records could very well be one of each.... As for > > census. They are also full of holes.... They are just as good as the > person > > who answered the door... sometimes that was just a neighbor... > > > > Oh, I am not trying to defend the person that submitted the information to > > the LDS, I am just saying that there may be a chance that you both for > very > > good reasons think that you are correct.. > > > > ALSO there are so many folks out there that do NOT bother to prove their > > information... and perhaps like me... I don't prove the collateral lines > > that others send me.... it is just to darn expensive.. I do however try > to > > say that it is unproven by me..... > > > > So before you get to excited, contact that submitter and see where they > > obtained that information.... Perhaps your g-g-grandfathers mother left a > > diary.. > > > > Jeannie <>< > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bruce Sexton [mailto:SugarSpoon@worldnet.att.net] > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:42 PM > > To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [KYNICHOL] tid-bit > > > > I clicked on the web page and what I found out to be untrue is the inf. > > abt. my second great grandfather, Nixon Covey,someone submitted the > > wrong inf. to the Morman. WE as a family has his diary that he himself > > left us in his own hand writing,,, I would like for someone write them > > for a correction on him and his fam. I would like to know where the > > Morman genealogy society got their inf. > > 1, he was not born on the 31 of March 1791, he was born on the 1 st. of > > March 1791, For Sure not in Cinncinnati, Oh., But in Harve-De- Grace, > > MD., he never lived in Oh. He lived in diff. parts of Ky. and your Ky. > > cences will tell you that, which I can prove. He taught school in > > Breathitt Co. Ky, and in Estill Co.,Ky. His records stands strong > > there. I wish people wouldn't tell things like that, it urps me to > > know end, > > I am a proud 2nd. great grandaughter of Nixon Covey's And I wish that > > someone would rectify this mess, HE NOR DID NONE OF HIS FAMLEY EVER, > > EVER LIVED IN OHIO { PERIOD}, Jan. > > > > Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > > > > > http://globalgazette.net/gazettes/gaz49.htm > > > > > > interesting research information... j. <><

Dear, I made copies of my copy of the diary, and mailed it to them,I looked, plus a few of my first cousins looked in Ky. Estill Co. Ky., Breathitt Co., Morgan Co.We as a fam. know where he lived, Estill Co.has a lot of inf. on him, He, Nixon Covey is mentioned in Dickie Diary, one of the Combs men said in Dickie Diary, I went to school to him, He taught school in Breathett Co. He faught in the war of 1812 for the south. He was a well educated man, if you go to the library in Estill Co. you will read some of the poems he wrote as the end of some of his, Mariages he performed, we as a fam. checked Cin., and found nothing of any of his fam. even living in Cin., Oh., because we were told Cin. was a good resorse place, is the reason for going and knowing that we didn't find anything on him living there, Thanks for the inf. on the Mormon, but who knows, if just one of them that I mailed the copies to didn't do it, it's his thing to do what ever with it, it became his properity, right? Jan. Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > Dear Jan.. > > Sorry to tell you, but the LDS church does NOT microfilm ANYTHING with out > the WRITTEN permission of who ever is in charge... AND if the diary is in > the possession of your family then they had to have been CALLED and ASKED to > film it.... and there will be a disclaimer at the beginning of the item on > the film stating who GAVE the permission.. they did not break into your > families house and make a copy of the diary..... in fact there is usually a > copy of the orig. letter of permission. > > Now... anything that you give to them or any one else including the stuff > that you put out on the internet becomes the property of who ever you gave > it to unless you have given them WRITTEN notice that they are NOT to give > the information out to any one..... then they can do what ever with > it....... > > I am sorry that the person no longer lives at that addy, perhaps if you were > to get on the net and see if he is out there, you may be able to see where > he got his Information.. other wise check out and see what you can find in > Butler Co OH about your family.... > > Jeannie <>< > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Sexton [mailto:SugarSpoon@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:20 PM > To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYNICHOL] tid-bit > > Dear Jean, I tried to contact the person with no success after I found > out who it was after writing a letter and made a phone call, the person > apparently has his e-mail changed; because his mail came back to me > twice as I thought I had maybe made a mistake in his address after > I had written it down exactly has it was given to me. I wrote him a nice > letter, Someone told me that the Mormon Genealogy Society now has a copy > of his diary,thats ok, I am just wondering if we had told the people not > to let it out side the family, I really wonder if they would have done > it even thow they promised not to, I took a chance when I first made > copies of it, if it maybe would have done something to the ink as it was > quiet old, it was copied for me from the book its self, few years back, > now realizing that, I make copies from the copies that I copied from my > first copies that was given to me, make sence? > Thanks, Jan. > after my color came back, has I did not wont to write in haste. > > Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > > > Good morning Jan.... > > > > There are MANY err's in the LDS IGI and the Ancestorial file... > especially > > the ancestorial file, the reason there is, is that folks like you and I > > submit the information to the "Morman's" in the first place.... So who > > ever submitted that information got their information from some where > > else... you should contact that submitter... and ask NICELY where they > > obtained the information... > > > > ALSO.. I have found that many folks did NOT know where they were born way > > back then..... they did not celebrate birthdays etc and the elders did not > > talk much about such things.... So perhaps he THOUGHT that he was born in > > one place and he was born in another INROUTE some where, perhaps Cinci... > > as his family was moving West down the OH river.... > > > > I have a gent that swore that he was born in 1710 in PA.... I believed > him > > until just a few months ago I found that he was actually born in Scotland > in > > 1708.... He lived in PA for about 20 years, then moved South into SC. > > I found him and his siblings and parents on a ships record and then in to > > the church records in Scotland and his families church records in PA.... > > He just lived there and ASSUMED that he was born there...... > > > > Now as far as the different dates of birth, that is an easy one.... Some > > times we have to use baptism records...... and the date that you have for > > birth and the other records could very well be one of each.... As for > > census. They are also full of holes.... They are just as good as the > person > > who answered the door... sometimes that was just a neighbor... > > > > Oh, I am not trying to defend the person that submitted the information to > > the LDS, I am just saying that there may be a chance that you both for > very > > good reasons think that you are correct.. > > > > ALSO there are so many folks out there that do NOT bother to prove their > > information... and perhaps like me... I don't prove the collateral lines > > that others send me.... it is just to darn expensive.. I do however try > to > > say that it is unproven by me..... > > > > So before you get to excited, contact that submitter and see where they > > obtained that information.... Perhaps your g-g-grandfathers mother left a > > diary.. > > > > Jeannie <>< > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bruce Sexton [mailto:SugarSpoon@worldnet.att.net] > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:42 PM > > To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [KYNICHOL] tid-bit > > > > I clicked on the web page and what I found out to be untrue is the inf. > > abt. my second great grandfather, Nixon Covey,someone submitted the > > wrong inf. to the Morman. WE as a family has his diary that he himself > > left us in his own hand writing,,, I would like for someone write them > > for a correction on him and his fam. I would like to know where the > > Morman genealogy society got their inf. > > 1, he was not born on the 31 of March 1791, he was born on the 1 st. of > > March 1791, For Sure not in Cinncinnati, Oh., But in Harve-De- Grace, > > MD., he never lived in Oh. He lived in diff. parts of Ky. and your Ky. > > cences will tell you that, which I can prove. He taught school in > > Breathitt Co. Ky, and in Estill Co.,Ky. His records stands strong > > there. I wish people wouldn't tell things like that, it urps me to > > know end, > > I am a proud 2nd. great grandaughter of Nixon Covey's And I wish that > > someone would rectify this mess, HE NOR DID NONE OF HIS FAMLEY EVER, > > EVER LIVED IN OHIO { PERIOD}, Jan. > > > > Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > > > > > http://globalgazette.net/gazettes/gaz49.htm > > > > > > interesting research information... j. <><

Dear Jan.. Sorry to tell you, but the LDS church does NOT microfilm ANYTHING with out the WRITTEN permission of who ever is in charge... AND if the diary is in the possession of your family then they had to have been CALLED and ASKED to film it.... and there will be a disclaimer at the beginning of the item on the film stating who GAVE the permission.. they did not break into your families house and make a copy of the diary..... in fact there is usually a copy of the orig. letter of permission. Now... anything that you give to them or any one else including the stuff that you put out on the internet becomes the property of who ever you gave it to unless you have given them WRITTEN notice that they are NOT to give the information out to any one..... then they can do what ever with it....... I am sorry that the person no longer lives at that addy, perhaps if you were to get on the net and see if he is out there, you may be able to see where he got his Information.. other wise check out and see what you can find in Butler Co OH about your family.... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Sexton [mailto:SugarSpoon@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:20 PM To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYNICHOL] tid-bit Dear Jean, I tried to contact the person with no success after I found out who it was after writing a letter and made a phone call, the person apparently has his e-mail changed; because his mail came back to me twice as I thought I had maybe made a mistake in his address after I had written it down exactly has it was given to me. I wrote him a nice letter, Someone told me that the Mormon Genealogy Society now has a copy of his diary,thats ok, I am just wondering if we had told the people not to let it out side the family, I really wonder if they would have done it even thow they promised not to, I took a chance when I first made copies of it, if it maybe would have done something to the ink as it was quiet old, it was copied for me from the book its self, few years back, now realizing that, I make copies from the copies that I copied from my first copies that was given to me, make sence? Thanks, Jan. after my color came back, has I did not wont to write in haste. Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > Good morning Jan.... > > There are MANY err's in the LDS IGI and the Ancestorial file... especially > the ancestorial file, the reason there is, is that folks like you and I > submit the information to the "Morman's" in the first place.... So who > ever submitted that information got their information from some where > else... you should contact that submitter... and ask NICELY where they > obtained the information... > > ALSO.. I have found that many folks did NOT know where they were born way > back then..... they did not celebrate birthdays etc and the elders did not > talk much about such things.... So perhaps he THOUGHT that he was born in > one place and he was born in another INROUTE some where, perhaps Cinci... > as his family was moving West down the OH river.... > > I have a gent that swore that he was born in 1710 in PA.... I believed him > until just a few months ago I found that he was actually born in Scotland in > 1708.... He lived in PA for about 20 years, then moved South into SC. > I found him and his siblings and parents on a ships record and then in to > the church records in Scotland and his families church records in PA.... > He just lived there and ASSUMED that he was born there...... > > Now as far as the different dates of birth, that is an easy one.... Some > times we have to use baptism records...... and the date that you have for > birth and the other records could very well be one of each.... As for > census. They are also full of holes.... They are just as good as the person > who answered the door... sometimes that was just a neighbor... > > Oh, I am not trying to defend the person that submitted the information to > the LDS, I am just saying that there may be a chance that you both for very > good reasons think that you are correct.. > > ALSO there are so many folks out there that do NOT bother to prove their > information... and perhaps like me... I don't prove the collateral lines > that others send me.... it is just to darn expensive.. I do however try to > say that it is unproven by me..... > > So before you get to excited, contact that submitter and see where they > obtained that information.... Perhaps your g-g-grandfathers mother left a > diary.. > > Jeannie <>< > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Sexton [mailto:SugarSpoon@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:42 PM > To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYNICHOL] tid-bit > > I clicked on the web page and what I found out to be untrue is the inf. > abt. my second great grandfather, Nixon Covey,someone submitted the > wrong inf. to the Morman. WE as a family has his diary that he himself > left us in his own hand writing,,, I would like for someone write them > for a correction on him and his fam. I would like to know where the > Morman genealogy society got their inf. > 1, he was not born on the 31 of March 1791, he was born on the 1 st. of > March 1791, For Sure not in Cinncinnati, Oh., But in Harve-De- Grace, > MD., he never lived in Oh. He lived in diff. parts of Ky. and your Ky. > cences will tell you that, which I can prove. He taught school in > Breathitt Co. Ky, and in Estill Co.,Ky. His records stands strong > there. I wish people wouldn't tell things like that, it urps me to > know end, > I am a proud 2nd. great grandaughter of Nixon Covey's And I wish that > someone would rectify this mess, HE NOR DID NONE OF HIS FAMLEY EVER, > EVER LIVED IN OHIO { PERIOD}, Jan. > > Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > > > http://globalgazette.net/gazettes/gaz49.htm > > > > interesting research information... j. <><

I would appreciate any information about this family. My great-grandfather was Frank Eubanks, born 1837 in KY, moved to Adams County, OH around 1863 Bob Eubanks Leesburg, FL Walker Eubanks, b.Aug. 14, 1838 in Mason Co. KY, married Catherine Eliz. Rogers in 1874 in Glasgow, MO, died July 1, 1917 in Leavensworth, KS.He was in the 39th OH Infantry, Co. 'I,' from Adams Co. OH. He had a sister Sarah, brother Marion F. or 'Frank' Eubanks. Frank''s children were Geo. W., James, Oscar, Cyrus, Stephen, John, Sarah, Wm. H., Lizzie.

Dear Jean, I tried to contact the person with no success after I found out who it was after writing a letter and made a phone call, the person apparently has his e-mail changed; because his mail came back to me twice as I thought I had maybe made a mistake in his address after I had written it down exactly has it was given to me. I wrote him a nice letter, Someone told me that the Mormon Genealogy Society now has a copy of his diary,thats ok, I am just wondering if we had told the people not to let it out side the family, I really wonder if they would have done it even thow they promised not to, I took a chance when I first made copies of it, if it maybe would have done something to the ink as it was quiet old, it was copied for me from the book its self, few years back, now realizing that, I make copies from the copies that I copied from my first copies that was given to me, make sence? Thanks, Jan. after my color came back, has I did not wont to write in haste. Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > Good morning Jan.... > > There are MANY err's in the LDS IGI and the Ancestorial file... especially > the ancestorial file, the reason there is, is that folks like you and I > submit the information to the "Morman's" in the first place.... So who > ever submitted that information got their information from some where > else... you should contact that submitter... and ask NICELY where they > obtained the information... > > ALSO.. I have found that many folks did NOT know where they were born way > back then..... they did not celebrate birthdays etc and the elders did not > talk much about such things.... So perhaps he THOUGHT that he was born in > one place and he was born in another INROUTE some where, perhaps Cinci... > as his family was moving West down the OH river.... > > I have a gent that swore that he was born in 1710 in PA.... I believed him > until just a few months ago I found that he was actually born in Scotland in > 1708.... He lived in PA for about 20 years, then moved South into SC. > I found him and his siblings and parents on a ships record and then in to > the church records in Scotland and his families church records in PA.... > He just lived there and ASSUMED that he was born there...... > > Now as far as the different dates of birth, that is an easy one.... Some > times we have to use baptism records...... and the date that you have for > birth and the other records could very well be one of each.... As for > census. They are also full of holes.... They are just as good as the person > who answered the door... sometimes that was just a neighbor... > > Oh, I am not trying to defend the person that submitted the information to > the LDS, I am just saying that there may be a chance that you both for very > good reasons think that you are correct.. > > ALSO there are so many folks out there that do NOT bother to prove their > information... and perhaps like me... I don't prove the collateral lines > that others send me.... it is just to darn expensive.. I do however try to > say that it is unproven by me..... > > So before you get to excited, contact that submitter and see where they > obtained that information.... Perhaps your g-g-grandfathers mother left a > diary.. > > Jeannie <>< > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Sexton [mailto:SugarSpoon@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:42 PM > To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYNICHOL] tid-bit > > I clicked on the web page and what I found out to be untrue is the inf. > abt. my second great grandfather, Nixon Covey,someone submitted the > wrong inf. to the Morman. WE as a family has his diary that he himself > left us in his own hand writing,,, I would like for someone write them > for a correction on him and his fam. I would like to know where the > Morman genealogy society got their inf. > 1, he was not born on the 31 of March 1791, he was born on the 1 st. of > March 1791, For Sure not in Cinncinnati, Oh., But in Harve-De- Grace, > MD., he never lived in Oh. He lived in diff. parts of Ky. and your Ky. > cences will tell you that, which I can prove. He taught school in > Breathitt Co. Ky, and in Estill Co.,Ky. His records stands strong > there. I wish people wouldn't tell things like that, it urps me to > know end, > I am a proud 2nd. great grandaughter of Nixon Covey's And I wish that > someone would rectify this mess, HE NOR DID NONE OF HIS FAMLEY EVER, > EVER LIVED IN OHIO { PERIOD}, Jan. > > Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > > > http://globalgazette.net/gazettes/gaz49.htm > > > > interesting research information... j. <><

http://www.funsilly.com/tax.html enjoy.... Jeannie <><

In the event you don't have a computer close at hand to do the calculating: REMEMBER 8870 That's not an error: It's the number to remember when you want to find the birthdate of someone when you only have the date of death and age. How do you figure the birthdate? Suppose the person died May 6, 1889, at the age of 71 years, 7 months, 9 days. ****Write the year, month, day as:->18890506 ****Subtract the age at death:------->710709 ****This gives the figure:--------->18179797 ****Now subtract 8870:----------------->8870 ****The result is:----------------->18170927 Year 1817, 9th month (Sept), 27th day or 27 Sept, 1817 >From Platte Co, MO Historical/Genealogical Society

Good morning Jan.... There are MANY err's in the LDS IGI and the Ancestorial file... especially the ancestorial file, the reason there is, is that folks like you and I submit the information to the "Morman's" in the first place.... So who ever submitted that information got their information from some where else... you should contact that submitter... and ask NICELY where they obtained the information... ALSO.. I have found that many folks did NOT know where they were born way back then..... they did not celebrate birthdays etc and the elders did not talk much about such things.... So perhaps he THOUGHT that he was born in one place and he was born in another INROUTE some where, perhaps Cinci... as his family was moving West down the OH river.... I have a gent that swore that he was born in 1710 in PA.... I believed him until just a few months ago I found that he was actually born in Scotland in 1708.... He lived in PA for about 20 years, then moved South into SC. I found him and his siblings and parents on a ships record and then in to the church records in Scotland and his families church records in PA.... He just lived there and ASSUMED that he was born there...... Now as far as the different dates of birth, that is an easy one.... Some times we have to use baptism records...... and the date that you have for birth and the other records could very well be one of each.... As for census. They are also full of holes.... They are just as good as the person who answered the door... sometimes that was just a neighbor... Oh, I am not trying to defend the person that submitted the information to the LDS, I am just saying that there may be a chance that you both for very good reasons think that you are correct.. ALSO there are so many folks out there that do NOT bother to prove their information... and perhaps like me... I don't prove the collateral lines that others send me.... it is just to darn expensive.. I do however try to say that it is unproven by me..... So before you get to excited, contact that submitter and see where they obtained that information.... Perhaps your g-g-grandfathers mother left a diary.. Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Sexton [mailto:SugarSpoon@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:42 PM To: KYNICHOL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYNICHOL] tid-bit I clicked on the web page and what I found out to be untrue is the inf. abt. my second great grandfather, Nixon Covey,someone submitted the wrong inf. to the Morman. WE as a family has his diary that he himself left us in his own hand writing,,, I would like for someone write them for a correction on him and his fam. I would like to know where the Morman genealogy society got their inf. 1, he was not born on the 31 of March 1791, he was born on the 1 st. of March 1791, For Sure not in Cinncinnati, Oh., But in Harve-De- Grace, MD., he never lived in Oh. He lived in diff. parts of Ky. and your Ky. cences will tell you that, which I can prove. He taught school in Breathitt Co. Ky, and in Estill Co.,Ky. His records stands strong there. I wish people wouldn't tell things like that, it urps me to know end, I am a proud 2nd. great grandaughter of Nixon Covey's And I wish that someone would rectify this mess, HE NOR DID NONE OF HIS FAMLEY EVER, EVER LIVED IN OHIO { PERIOD}, Jan. Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > http://globalgazette.net/gazettes/gaz49.htm > > interesting research information... j. <><

I clicked on the web page and what I found out to be untrue is the inf. abt. my second great grandfather, Nixon Covey,someone submitted the wrong inf. to the Morman. WE as a family has his diary that he himself left us in his own hand writing,,, I would like for someone write them for a correction on him and his fam. I would like to know where the Morman genealogy society got their inf. 1, he was not born on the 31 of March 1791, he was born on the 1 st. of March 1791, For Sure not in Cinncinnati, Oh., But in Harve-De- Grace, MD., he never lived in Oh. He lived in diff. parts of Ky. and your Ky. cences will tell you that, which I can prove. He taught school in Breathitt Co. Ky, and in Estill Co.,Ky. His records stands strong there. I wish people wouldn't tell things like that, it urps me to know end, I am a proud 2nd. great grandaughter of Nixon Covey's And I wish that someone would rectify this mess, HE NOR DID NONE OF HIS FAMLEY EVER, EVER LIVED IN OHIO { PERIOD}, Jan. Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > http://globalgazette.net/gazettes/gaz49.htm > > interesting research information... j. <><