Francine, re-do the birth of Jesse or Elizabeth-- Jesse b ca 1764; Elizabeth b 1752???? Found a site (but not the one I wanted!!!)-- check out www.bribling,net/nc.htm Has to do with Ice's Ferry, Va (now WVa). Contraversy over which lady was mother of Tecumseh--Mary Bayless (later wife of Andrew Ice) OR Mary Ice, d/o Frederick Ice (Eyck) and his #1 wife Mary/Nelly Galloway. Tecumseh, bca 1768, s/o Peekishinoah, at Chillicothe, a Shawnee "campground" on the river not far from Ice's Ferry, Va. Article says Mary Bayles (Baily, Bayless) would have been too young to be mother of Tecumseh. Prophet was his 1/2 brother. It is a known fact that Tecumseh's mother was a white woman. References is given on this web site. Don't begin to know how true it is BUT I know I found a website about Indian prisoners-- told about Frederick Ice (Eyck) going somewhere, indians raided, killing the mother, & taking son William & at least 2 daus prisoners. I THOUGHT the article said that the women became wives of Indians & did not return??? The above web site says the sisters of Wm were killed????? Have looked for the website that I had found before but can't find it right now. Will look some more. Maybe something would be under Ice's Ferry??? Found this website by running a search for indian prisoners early america-- have not checked out what else has come up on Yahoo as a result of the search. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: Jesse Ice This is what I have on Jesse Ice who m. Elizabeth Thompson. Family Tree Maker, if the info is correctly input, has Jesse has my 5th great grandfather. Happy to share. Francine Conn Halter =============== Descendants of Jesse Ice 1 Jesse Ice b: Abt. 1765 in Nelson Co., KY or Virginia d: March 10, 1818 in Nelson Co., KY +Elizabeth Thompson b: April 09, 1752 in St. Mary's Co., MD m: January 19, 1789 in Nelson Co., KY d: Abt. 1824 in Nelson Co., KY Father: Robert Thompson Mother: Elizabeth Ford 2 Samuel Ice 2 Thomas Ice 2 Robert Ice b: Abt. 1791 in Beech Fork River, Nelson Co., KY d: Bef. December 13, 1841 in Nelson Co., KY +Ann Nancy Dawson b: Bet. 1795 - 1796 in Nelson or Larue Co., KY m: April 20, 1812 in Bardstown, Nelson Co., KY d: Bef. 1865 Father: John Dawson Mother: Mary Ann Hagan 2 James W. Ice b: Bet. 1793 - 1795 in Bardstown, Nelson Co., KY d: November 25, 1883 +Mary Elizabeth Hill b: Bet. 1790 - 1803 m: December 15, 1817 in Nelson Co., KY Father: Joseph Hill Mother: Jane Atkinson *2nd Wife of [1] James W. Ice: +Eliza Brown b: Bet. 1795 - 1812 in Kentucky m: September 07, 1839 d: Abt. 1846 *3rd Wife of [1] James W. Ice: +Elizabeth Johnson m: February 19, 1846 2 Joseph Ice b: Bet. 1797 - 1799 in Nelson Co., KY d: February 1870 in Russellville, IL +Mary Polly Riley Dawson b: Abt. 1800 in Kentucky m: May 26, 1825 in St. Thomas, Nelson Co., KY d: Bef. 1836 Father: George Dawson Mother: Nancy Vowels *2nd Wife of [2] Joseph Ice: +Mary Baird m: February 17, 1836 in Nelson Co., KY 2 Elizabeth Ice b: May 20, 1798 in Nelson Co., KY d: August 20, 1859 in Nelson or LaRue Co., KY +Ignatius Dawson b: April 13, 1799 in Holy Cross, Marion Co., KY m: June 15, 1819 in Nelson Co., KY d: December 19, 1862 in Nelson Co., KY or LaRue Co., KY Father: John Dawson Mother: Mary Ann Hagan

My Bayles family history includes conversations with Tecumseh and Bayles men (brothers or uncle?) the night before the battle resulting in his death. My ggggrandfather David Bayles (1795-1844) was a soldier at Battle of Fallen Timbers. I will look at records to get more. Thanks, Chuck Woods -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 05 May 2005 03:31:39 -0500 Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Re: Jesse Ice Francine, re-do the birth of Jesse or Elizabeth-- Jesse b ca 1764; Elizabeth b 1752???? Found a site (but not the one I wanted!!!)-- check out www.bribling,net/nc.htm Has to do with Ice's Ferry, Va (now WVa). Contraversy over which lady was mother of Tecumseh--Mary Bayless (later wife of Andrew Ice) OR Mary Ice, d/o Frederick Ice (Eyck) and his #1 wife Mary/Nelly Galloway. Tecumseh, bca 1768, s/o Peekishinoah, at Chillicothe, a Shawnee "campground" on the river not far from Ice's Ferry, Va. Article says Mary Bayles (Baily, Bayless) would have been too young to be mother of Tecumseh. Prophet was his 1/2 brother. It is a known fact that Tecumseh's mother was a white woman. References is given on this web site. Don't begin to know how true it is BUT I know I found a website about Indian prisoners-- told about Frederick Ice (Eyck) going somewhere, indians raided, killing the mother, & taking son William & at least 2 daus prisoners. I THOUGHT the article said that the women became wives of Indians & did not return??? The above web site says the sisters of Wm were killed????? Have looked for the website that I had found before but can't find it right now. Will look some more. Maybe something would be under Ice's Ferry??? Found this website by running a search for indian prisoners early america-- have not checked out what else has come up on Yahoo as a result of the search. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: Jesse Ice This is what I have on Jesse Ice who m. Elizabeth Thompson. Family Tree Maker, if the info is correctly input, has Jesse has my 5th great grandfather. Happy to share. Francine Conn Halter =============== Descendants of Jesse Ice 1 Jesse Ice b: Abt. 1765 in Nelson Co., KY or Virginia d: March 10, 1818 in Nelson Co., KY +Elizabeth Thompson b: April 09, 1752 in St. Mary's Co., MD m: January 19, 1789 in Nelson Co., KY d: Abt. 1824 in Nelson Co., KY Father: Robert Thompson Mother: Elizabeth Ford 2 Samuel Ice 2 Thomas Ice 2 Robert Ice b: Abt. 1791 in Beech Fork River, Nelson Co., KY d: Bef. December 13, 1841 in Nelson Co., KY +Ann Nancy Dawson b: Bet. 1795 - 1796 in Nelson or Larue Co., KY m: April 20, 1812 in Bardstown, Nelson Co., KY d: Bef. 1865 Father: John Dawson Mother: Mary Ann Hagan 2 James W. Ice b: Bet. 1793 - 1795 in Bardstown, Nelson Co., KY d: November 25, 1883 +Mary Elizabeth Hill b: Bet. 1790 - 1803 m: December 15, 1817 in Nelson Co., KY Father: Joseph Hill Mother: Jane Atkinson *2nd Wife of [1] James W. Ice: +Eliza Brown b: Bet. 1795 - 1812 in Kentucky m: September 07, 1839 d: Abt. 1846 *3rd Wife of [1] James W. Ice: +Elizabeth Johnson m: February 19, 1846 2 Joseph Ice b: Bet. 1797 - 1799 in Nelson Co., KY d: February 1870 in Russellville, IL +Mary Polly Riley Dawson b: Abt. 1800 in Kentucky m: May 26, 1825 in St. Thomas, Nelson Co., KY d: Bef. 1836 Father: George Dawson Mother: Nancy Vowels *2nd Wife of [2] Joseph Ice: +Mary Baird m: February 17, 1836 in Nelson Co., KY 2 Elizabeth Ice b: May 20, 1798 in Nelson Co., KY d: August 20, 1859 in Nelson or LaRue Co., KY +Ignatius Dawson b: April 13, 1799 in Holy Cross, Marion Co., KY m: June 15, 1819 in Nelson Co., KY d: December 19, 1862 in Nelson Co., KY or LaRue Co., KY Father: John Dawson Mother: Mary Ann Hagan

re: searches on yahoo for Battle of Fallen Timbers: resulted after Tecumseh took part in war of retaliation for the death of Chief Cornstalk-1780. This involved "Mad" Anthony Wayne 1794--Tecumseh was there & was but wouldn not sign the tready of Greenville 1796. Article also names other Indian Chief present at the Battle of Fallen Timbers. Wikipedia-Free encyclopedia- online at Yahoo: Battle of Tippicanoe-- 6 Nov 1811- was planned by Harrison (future President) because Tecumseh was traveling in the southern states to recruit more tribes to his alliance. Prophetstown was under the command of The Prophet (younger 1/2 brother of Tecumseh). Fearing the return of Tecumseh with reinforcements- Prophetstown was burned. The Prophet fled with the British. Oct 6, 1813- Battle of the Thames-- Tecumseh was killed. The Prophet founded a village near Kansas City, KS in 1826 & died there 1836.(He being born 1775). All kinds of information on-line!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Re: Jesse Ice > My Bayles family history includes conversations with Tecumseh and Bayles > men (brothers or uncle?) the night before the battle resulting in his > death. My ggggrandfather David Bayles (1795-1844) was a soldier at Battle > of Fallen Timbers. I will look at records to get more. > > Thanks, > > Chuck Woods > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, 05 May 2005 03:31:39 -0500 > Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Re: Jesse Ice > > > Francine, > > re-do the birth of Jesse or Elizabeth-- Jesse b ca 1764; Elizabeth b > 1752???? > > Found a site (but not the one I wanted!!!)-- check out > www.bribling,net/nc.htm > Has to do with Ice's Ferry, Va (now WVa). > > Contraversy over which lady was mother of Tecumseh--Mary Bayless (later > wife of Andrew Ice) OR Mary Ice, d/o Frederick Ice (Eyck) and his #1 wife > Mary/Nelly Galloway. > > Tecumseh, bca 1768, s/o Peekishinoah, at Chillicothe, a Shawnee > "campground" on the river not far from Ice's Ferry, Va. Article says Mary > Bayles (Baily, Bayless) would have been too young to be mother of > Tecumseh. Prophet was his 1/2 brother. It is a known fact that > Tecumseh's > mother was a white woman. References is given on this web site. > > Don't begin to know how true it is BUT I know I found a website about > Indian > prisoners-- told about Frederick Ice (Eyck) going somewhere, indians > raided, > killing the mother, & taking son William & at least 2 daus prisoners. I > THOUGHT the article said that the women became wives of Indians & did not > return??? The above web site says the sisters of Wm were killed????? > > Have looked for the website that I had found before but can't find it > right > now. Will look some more. Maybe something would be under Ice's Ferry??? > Found this website by running a search for indian prisoners early > america-- > have not checked out what else has come up on Yahoo as a result of the > search. > > Mary > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:54 PM > Subject: Jesse Ice > > > This is what I have on Jesse Ice who m. Elizabeth Thompson. Family Tree > Maker, if the info is correctly input, has Jesse has my 5th great > grandfather. > > Happy to share. > > Francine Conn Halter > =============== > > Descendants of Jesse Ice > > 1 Jesse Ice b: Abt. 1765 in Nelson Co., KY or Virginia d: March 10, 1818 > in Nelson Co., KY > +Elizabeth Thompson b: April 09, 1752 in St. Mary's Co., MD m: > January > 19, 1789 in Nelson Co., KY d: Abt. 1824 in Nelson Co., KY Father: > Robert > Thompson Mother: Elizabeth Ford > 2 Samuel Ice > 2 Thomas Ice > 2 Robert Ice b: Abt. 1791 in Beech Fork River, Nelson Co., KY d: Bef. > December 13, 1841 in Nelson Co., KY > +Ann Nancy Dawson b: Bet. 1795 - 1796 in Nelson or Larue > Co., > KY > m: April 20, 1812 in Bardstown, Nelson Co., KY d: Bef. 1865 > Father: John > Dawson Mother: Mary Ann Hagan > 2 James W. Ice b: Bet. 1793 - 1795 in Bardstown, Nelson Co., KY > d: November 25, 1883 > +Mary Elizabeth Hill b: Bet. 1790 - 1803 m: December 15, > 1817 > in > Nelson Co., KY Father: Joseph Hill Mother: Jane Atkinson > *2nd Wife of [1] James W. Ice: > +Eliza Brown b: Bet. 1795 - 1812 in Kentucky m: September > 07, > 1839 d: > Abt. 1846 > *3rd Wife of [1] James W. Ice: > +Elizabeth Johnson m: February 19, 1846 > 2 Joseph Ice b: Bet. 1797 - 1799 in Nelson Co., KY d: February > 1870 in Russellville, IL > +Mary Polly Riley Dawson b: Abt. 1800 in Kentucky m: May 26, > 1825 > in St. Thomas, Nelson Co., KY d: Bef. 1836 Father: George > Dawson > Mother: Nancy Vowels > *2nd Wife of [2] Joseph Ice: > +Mary Baird m: February 17, 1836 in Nelson Co., KY > 2 Elizabeth Ice b: May 20, 1798 in Nelson Co., KY d: August 20, > 1859 in Nelson or LaRue Co., KY > +Ignatius Dawson b: April 13, 1799 in Holy Cross, Marion > Co., > KY m: > June 15, 1819 in Nelson Co., KY d: December 19, 1862 in > Nelson Co., > KY or LaRue Co., KY Father: John Dawson Mother: Mary Ann > Hagan > >