Mary, Have you obtained a copy of the Joseph Frederick's death certificate to see if any parents are listed? I've always thought that the Joseph listed as age 8 in 1850 was the child of Robert and Ann Dawson but never found him anywhere after 1850 and figured he had died. Checked my St Catherine records after your post and see that Joseph and Prudence are both listed as buried in St Catherine. I've been unable to find Joseph and his wife Prudence in the 1880 census but they are in Athertonville, Larue Co, KY in the 1900 and 1910 census. Their son Robert M and family are in Terra Haute, IN in 1920 but Prudence is not with him or with Joseph Frank and family are in Larue Co, KY, If she lived until 1935, she must be somewhere! Robert Ice, Jr and Mary Ann Greenwell are my GGGgrandparents via Nannie Ellen Ice who married Joseph Pius Buckman, their daughter Annie Erminilda was the second wife of Felix Blumer Carrico and their daughter Nannie Agnita Carrico who married Kempis Lee Alvey, Sr are my grandparents. Bob Alvey In a message dated 4/21/2005 6:37:04 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Got interested in the Ices when Prudence E. Essex m Joseph Frederick Ice- both are buried at St Catherine's at New Haven. Do not have their marriage date & don't know if it would be in the records of St Cath's. Prudence was sis/o my GGM Anna M. Essex Lavey (she & hus John Oliver Lavey also at St Cath's). Know most Joseph Frederick b Aug 1841 Nelson Co was s/o Robert Ice but have not proven it. Just too many that I am looking for in that area of Ky!!! Mary Y.

No, I haven't gotten Joseph's death cert. I have so many I am chasing it would cost me a fortune to get them all!!! I don't think they would let me check the cert for parents!!! Ann Dawson Ice was the d/o John & Mary Hagan Dawson who are also my 4th GGpts through their dau Eleanor who m George Johnson. Ellen, w/o George Johnson is also buried at St Catherine's. Was very happy when I found her!!! Have been told George is probably there but doesn't have a stone. Am trying hard to work out the Johnson/Johnston family. don't have all George & Eleanor's ch. John & Mary's son Ignatius married Elizabeth Ice, also d/o Jesse & Elizabeth Thompson Ice (I think???). These families intermarried so much it is very hard to untangle them!!! Just got the other 3 cem books of Nelson Co. Hopefully I can locate the graves of John and Mary Hagan Dawson, IF I am lucky!!! Slowly chasing them all down IF I can find them!!! Maybe once I get to Bardstown- I will have a better chance of finding them!!! It is hard doing research from IL & has been a hinderance for me for years!!! Mary Y. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 3:46 AM Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Jesse Ice > > Mary, > > Have you obtained a copy of the Joseph Frederick's death certificate to > see > if any parents are listed? I've always thought that the Joseph listed as > age > 8 in 1850 was the child of Robert and Ann Dawson but never found him > anywhere > after 1850 and figured he had died. Checked my St Catherine records > after > your post and see that Joseph and Prudence are both listed as buried in > St > Catherine. I've been unable to find Joseph and his wife Prudence in the > 1880 > census but they are in Athertonville, Larue Co, KY in the 1900 and 1910 > census. > Their son Robert M and family are in Terra Haute, IN in 1920 but Prudence > is > not with him or with Joseph Frank and family are in Larue Co, KY, If she > lived until 1935, she must be somewhere! > > Robert Ice, Jr and Mary Ann Greenwell are my GGGgrandparents via Nannie > Ellen Ice who married Joseph Pius Buckman, their daughter Annie Erminilda > was the > second wife of Felix Blumer Carrico and their daughter Nannie Agnita > Carrico > who married Kempis Lee Alvey, Sr are my grandparents. > > Bob Alvey > > > In a message dated 4/21/2005 6:37:04 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Got interested in the Ices when Prudence E. Essex m Joseph Frederick > Ice- both are buried at St Catherine's at New Haven. Do not have their > marriage date & don't know if it would be in the records of St Cath's. > Prudence was sis/o my GGM Anna M. Essex Lavey (she & hus John Oliver > Lavey > also at St Cath's). > > Know most Joseph Frederick b Aug 1841 Nelson Co was s/o Robert > Ice but have not proven it. Just too many that I am looking for in that > area of Ky!!! > > Mary Y. > > > > > >

Bob, I have Nancy Ellen Ice's mother as Mary Mariah Greenwell d/o Mathew Greenwell and Mary Amelia Greenwell. Do I have this wrong? I have Mathew's 2nd wife as Mary Ann Greenwell m. Jan. 8, 1861. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 3:46 AM Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Jesse Ice > > Mary, > > Have you obtained a copy of the Joseph Frederick's death certificate to > see > if any parents are listed? I've always thought that the Joseph listed as > age > 8 in 1850 was the child of Robert and Ann Dawson but never found him > anywhere > after 1850 and figured he had died. Checked my St Catherine records > after > your post and see that Joseph and Prudence are both listed as buried in > St > Catherine. I've been unable to find Joseph and his wife Prudence in the > 1880 > census but they are in Athertonville, Larue Co, KY in the 1900 and 1910 > census. > Their son Robert M and family are in Terra Haute, IN in 1920 but Prudence > is > not with him or with Joseph Frank and family are in Larue Co, KY, If she > lived until 1935, she must be somewhere! > > Robert Ice, Jr and Mary Ann Greenwell are my GGGgrandparents via Nannie > Ellen Ice who married Joseph Pius Buckman, their daughter Annie Erminilda > was the > second wife of Felix Blumer Carrico and their daughter Nannie Agnita > Carrico > who married Kempis Lee Alvey, Sr are my grandparents. > > Bob Alvey > > > In a message dated 4/21/2005 6:37:04 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Got interested in the Ices when Prudence E. Essex m Joseph Frederick > Ice- both are buried at St Catherine's at New Haven. Do not have their > marriage date & don't know if it would be in the records of St Cath's. > Prudence was sis/o my GGM Anna M. Essex Lavey (she & hus John Oliver > Lavey > also at St Cath's). > > Know most Joseph Frederick b Aug 1841 Nelson Co was s/o Robert > Ice but have not proven it. Just too many that I am looking for in that > area of Ky!!! > > Mary Y. > > > > >