Eric Thanks for your advice and interesting connection. I'll keep looking. Judi --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: > I would not be so quick to dismiss her. In that time > period, Kentucky is > still Virginia, and Kentucky is a county of > Virginia. Nelson and Bullitt > counties didn't even exist. The only permanent > settlements were the forts > and stations. Everyone in the entire area was on the > move. Crab Orchard > itself was a way station for migrants from the Old > Dominion. Out of the > thousands who passed through there, only a handful > of families stayed there. > If it were not for the family archives, who would > have though to look for > Sara Purcell's 1807 marriage in Indiana. It didn't > become a state until > 1816. > > My suggestions is to track the Purcell in-law > families for their records and > migration routes. When written records are > exhausted, it's best to keep > exploring the tangents. By the way, there is a Lard > family related to the > Woodson family, who are kin to the James. > Relationship are not always found > in linear forms. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith Purcell > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. (brothers) > > Eric-- > If Sarah Sullivan was born in Lincoln County, Ky (if > I am reading correctly) > then it is doubtful she would be a daughter of > Thomas Purcell and wife > Elenor Sullivan located in Nelson/Bullitt County, KY > in 1780. Thomas > Purcell had 400 acres of land there surveyed by > Daniel Sullivan (bro. to > Elenor). Sorry I was not able to find more through > my research in trying to > find the Purcell connection. I did not find > anything in Clark County, > Indiana regarding Purcells except for this marriage. > But anyone should feel > free to check as certainly a more in-depth research > might turn up something. > > I have tried to contact anyone who states as a fact > that she was daughter of > Thomas and Elenor (Sullivan) Purcell but so far no > answers. Maybe your > query will bring something to light. I think I will > stop including her as a > possible daughter in light of the Lincoln County, > Kentucky information. > Thomas Purcell did have a daugther name Catherine > Sullivan Purcell who > married Hezekiah Lard in Nelson County, KY and later > a James in St. Louis, > MO. Sorry I don't have the James information with > me, but will say there > appeared to be no connection to Jesse James. Judi > > --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: > > > As long as you've stumbled across the > > Purcell-Younger connection, here's > > some information, followed by a query. > > > > Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas > Co KY, d. Nov 12, > > 1854, Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of > the Younger brothers > > associated with Jesse & Frank James through Col. > Younger's son, Col. > > Henry Washington Younger. The elder Col. Younger > married Sarah > > Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co > KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 > > in Clay Co Mo. The marriage occurred on Aug 21, > 1807 in Little York, > > Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. James Lemon. > They had six > > children, among whom was Col. > > Coleman Purcell Younger, > > b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 > in San Jose, Santa > > Clara Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an > alcalde in California > > under Mexican rule. He had been a member of the > Missouri State > > legislature, and in California became President of > the California > > Society of Pioneers. He also was associated with > Jesse & Frank James' > > uncle Drury Woodson James, also a cattleman, who > founded Paso Robles, > > CA. > > > > It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from > until the marriage > > of his father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was > discovered in the > > Hihn-Younger archives at Santa Cruz College in > California a couple in > > 2002. The question now remains, what is the > ancestry of Sarah Sullivan > > Purcell? Nothing more is known of her, other than > what I've stated. > > Does anyone know? > > > > ERIC JAMES > > Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 > www.ericjames.org > > > > Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Judith Purcell > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. > > (brothers) > > > > Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, > but just try and > > find the connection. Jesse James was in KY but > the family came much > > later than the Purcells. > > If there is family tie there it is not an obvious > one.--Judi > > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just > > picked up information > > > along the way because of the Belle Starr > > connection to my ex-in-law's > > > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 > > husband Rolly Bollin > > > were "colorful" characters!!! > > > > > > You might also be interested to know that Cole > > Younger & the Dulins > > > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger > & > > sister to Henry. > > > Always found that interesting but not > surprising. > > > Don't know--but it > > > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also > > connected. The Youngers, > > > the Dulins & the James all form the same area > of > > Ky-just before they > > > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > > > Samuels, don't know now > > > who his father was. > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas > > and James Sr. > > > (brothers) > > > > > > > > > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I > > have > > > a bit on them. > > > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that > family. > > > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > > > committed fornication with Mary > > > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was > fined > > > 30s. and ordered to give > > > > security to keep the county from any charge by > > > means of his bastard child > > > > called Alexander." > > > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it > is > > a > > > bit large for list. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > > Thomas > > > and James Sr. > > > > (brothers) > > > > > > > > > > > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > > > Leighton Fristoe were > > > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole > Younger > > > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > > > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings > the > > > Youngers moved to > > > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have > seen > > > articles about the > > > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. > > and > > > Cole had a black half > > > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > > > >> > > > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > > > Maybelle Shirley's dau > > > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra > Maybelle > > > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > > > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. > John > > & > > > Myra had a son Ed, too, > > > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr > > in > > > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > > > >> area (the same area as my > > > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > > > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > > > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > > > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > > > (don't ask me how she got > > > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle > > for > > > Belle > > > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > > > were supposidly friends. > > > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn > raising > > > when Belle shot Sam > > > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was > > told > > > this years ago by > > > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > > > tall tale"!! Was very > > > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > > > Starr in a magazine (IE: > > > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > > > don't remember which) > > > >> which related the incident as well as other > > > things. > > > >> > > > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto > > pony > > > across the Indian > > > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > > > speak a word of English. > > > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, > Cherokee > > > Nation, OK & are > > > >> buried at Eufalia. > > > >> > > > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry > Yoder-- > > I > > > married their > > > >> son. > > > >> > > > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all > kinds > > > of things!!! > > > >> > > > >> Mary Yoder > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Judith Purcell" > > <[email protected]> > > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > > > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > > > Thomas and James Sr. > > > >> (brothers) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything > on > > > Sarah > > > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back > to > > > you > > > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > > > Henry > > > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and > > Charles > > > must > > > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > > > Indiana. > > > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > > > most > > > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > > > Purcells > > > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > > > Sullivan. A > > > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > > > middle > > > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who > would > > > have > > > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his > day > > > though > > > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. > He > > > was an > > > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for > the > > Americans, > > > >>> considered a traditor because he > > > helped the > > > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't > > be > > > of > > > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > > > Sullivan > > > >>>> Purcell. > > > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most > > are > > > in > > > >>>> there twice once as > > > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > > > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. > 4, > > > 1796. > > > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > > > Twain? > > > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > > > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > > > >>>> Dave > > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > > > <[email protected]> > > > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > > > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > > Thomas > > > and > > > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell > (Pursley, > > > etc.) > > > >>>> were > > > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife > Keziah > > Hite?)lived in > > > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. > > > These > > > >>>> sons > > > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > > > Another > > > >>>> son, > > > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick > > (Allegany), > > > >>>> County > > > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found > > just > > > >>>> across > > > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, > VA > > > around > > > >>>> > 1750. > > > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > > > County > > > >>>> with > > > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > > > children > > > >>>> Isaac > > > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > > > Bullitt > > > >>>> County; > > > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived > Bullitt > > > >>>> County; > > > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of > Hezekiah > > > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > > > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible > other > > > >>>> chidren of > > > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL > who > > > >>>> married > > > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan > > PURCELL > > > who > > > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > > > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > > > (Biggerstaff?) and > > > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth > lived > > > in > > > >>>> Nelson > > > >>>> > County. > > > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > > > interest > > > >>>> in > > > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > > > >>>> Counties.--Judith > > > >>>> > Purcell > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > > > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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