Eric, Am so pleased to find your website & it is wonderful!!! Have marked it as a favorite so I can explore it more. Was looking for Forrest James only to find out he was Rev John Foster James who m Margaret Elizabeth "Betsy" Wand. She d/o Thomas Sr and MARY FIGG Wand. Mary b 5 Apr 1764. Thomas 2 Apr 1762 England; d 7 Nov 1837 Warren Co, Ky. For this couple, I have the children: 1 Thomas Wand Jr ca 1795 2. Margaret Elizabeth Wand; m Forrest James; she b 6 Aug 1796 ; m 17 Jan 1811 Butler Co, Ky 3. Powell Wand m Mary Kuykendall- he b 23 Oct 1797 4. Nancy Ann Wand b ca 1800 Fred Co, Va; d Crawford Co, Ark; m Moses Kuykendall 14 Dec 1807 Butler Co, Ky--he 1785-1828 Crawford Co, Ark 5. Mary Wand b ca 1801 6. Wm N. Wand b ca 1803; m Nancy Davis Hay 16 Feb 1824 (am sure if I checked the mgs of Ky-I would find actual mg places and could find census data for the above people, too. Much rebuilding of my gedcom files!!!!) Also: Seeli/Seli/Celi Figg b 4 May 1776 Berkely Co, Va; m Mary Dean Kuykendall (widow of Jacob; had children by him) 8 Oct 1804 Hardin Co, Ky. Seeli/etc, s/o John Figg Sr & #1 wife (an unknown Irish Lady); Seeli/etc d 1855 Ellettsville, Monroe, IN. Mary prob. died in Shelby Co, Ky. I descend from John Figg Sr & #2 wife Elizabeth Mitchell who m 1792 Berkeley Co, Va; John d Dec 1839-Jan 1840 Nelson Co, Ky. Have been trying to find other Figgs in Va & I thank you for your "lead"!!! I have the book "Figg Leaves" by Haskarrl & Matson, 1982. Also-- when I was a young girl at LeRoy, McLean Co, IL. I knew Woody James & his wife Maggie (they lived a block away from us & later their dau & son-in-law built a house across the street from them; that is how they all got to IL--their dau married a man from LeRoy). Woody & Maggie was from Ky. I checked the 1930 Cen of LeRoy, McLean Co, IL & found Woody's mother Lavinia living with them. Will have to check the Cems (Oak Grove & Gilmore) to see which Cem all three are buried in. Was just a kid when Maggie & Woody died & would not have remembered Lavinia. Brenda of [email protected] found Woodford James in a household in Ky with his mother & step-father. Just don't remember WHERE!!!! Data was in my gedfile but have had to up-load an OLD back up & have lost lots of data including data on Woody & Maggie. I had asked Brenda if she could find a Woody James with a mother Lavinia anywhere in Ky. She did & I then found them myself. Will have to see if I can repeat the data!!! Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, here's > some information, followed by a query. > > Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, 1854, > Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers > associated > with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry Washington > Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 > Crab > Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage > occurred > on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. > James > Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell Younger, > b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa > Clara > Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under Mexican > rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in > California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He also > was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, also a > cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. > > It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage of > his > father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger > archives > at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now > remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is > known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? > > ERIC JAMES > Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 > www.ericjames.org > > Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find > the > connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than the > Purcells. > If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi > > --- [email protected] wrote: > >> Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up information >> along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my ex-in-law's >> family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin >> were "colorful" characters!!! >> >> You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins >> were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. >> Always found that interesting but not surprising. >> Don't know--but it >> wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The Youngers, >> the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before they >> all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. >> Samuels, don't know now >> who his father was. >> >> Mary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. >> (brothers) >> >> >> > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have >> a bit on them. >> > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. >> > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 >> committed fornication with Mary >> > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined >> 30s. and ordered to give >> > security to keep the county from any charge by >> means of his bastard child >> > called Alexander." >> > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a >> bit large for list. >> > Dave >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM >> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and James Sr. >> > (brothers) >> > >> > >> >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba >> Leighton Fristoe were >> >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger >> (Thomas Cole?? Have never >> >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the >> Youngers moved to >> >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen >> articles about the >> >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and >> Cole had a black half >> >> sister (documented if you care to check). >> >> >> >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra >> Maybelle Shirley's dau >> >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle >> (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >> >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & >> Myra had a son Ed, too, >> >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in >> Ok; lived in the Eufalia >> >> area (the same area as my >> Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >> >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My >> daus' GGm Minnie Belle >> >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL >> (don't ask me how she got >> >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for >> Belle >> >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey >> were supposidly friends. >> >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising >> when Belle shot Sam >> >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told >> this years ago by >> >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a >> tall tale"!! Was very >> >> surprised when I read an article about Belle >> Starr in a magazine (IE: >> >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but >> don't remember which) >> >> which related the incident as well as other >> things. >> >> >> >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony >> across the Indian >> >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't >> speak a word of English. >> >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee >> Nation, OK & are >> >> buried at Eufalia. >> >> >> >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I >> married their >> >> son. >> >> >> >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds >> of things!!! >> >> >> >> Mary Yoder >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> Thomas and James Sr. >> >> (brothers) >> >> >> >> >> >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on >> Sarah >> >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to >> you >> >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a >> Henry >> >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles >> must >> >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in >> Indiana. >> >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the >> most >> >>> likely connection with this couple and the >> Purcells >> >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor >> Sullivan. A >> >>> younger descendant told me that she said her >> middle >> >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would >> have >> >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day >> though >> >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He >> was an >> >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, >> >>> considered a traditor because he >> helped the >> >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be >> of >> >>> more help. Judi Purcell >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah >> Sullivan >> >>>> Purcell. >> >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are >> in >> >>>> there twice once as >> >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >> >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, >> 1796. >> >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark >> Twain? >> >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >> >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >> >>>> Dave >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" >> <[email protected]> >> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >> >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and >> >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, >> etc.) >> >>>> were >> >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in >> >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. >> These >> >>>> sons >> >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. >> Another >> >>>> son, >> >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), >> >>>> County >> >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just >> >>>> across >> >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA >> around >> >>>> > 1750. >> >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt >> County >> >>>> with >> >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had >> children >> >>>> Isaac >> >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 >> Bullitt >> >>>> County; >> >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >> >>>> County; >> >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >> >>>> LARD/LAIRD >> >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >> >>>> chidren of >> >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >> >>>> married >> >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL >> who >> >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >> >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna >> (Biggerstaff?) and >> >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived >> in >> >>>> Nelson >> >>>> > County. >> >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has >> interest >> >>>> in >> >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >> >>>> Counties.--Judith >> >>>> > Purcell >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> __________________________________________________ >> >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >> >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> >>>> protection around >> >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> >>> Do You Yahoo!? >> >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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