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    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers)
    2. David Lee
    3. The Lincoln Co. birth site was picked up from a Younger web site and has not been proven so do not hang your hat on it. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > Eric-- > If Sarah Sullivan was born in Lincoln County, Ky (if I > am reading correctly) then it is doubtful she would be > a daughter of Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor Sullivan > located in Nelson/Bullitt County, KY in 1780. Thomas > Purcell had 400 acres of land there surveyed by Daniel > Sullivan (bro. to Elenor). Sorry I was not able to > find more through my research in trying to find the > Purcell connection. I did not find anything in Clark > County, Indiana regarding Purcells except for this > marriage. But anyone should feel free to check as > certainly a more in-depth research might turn up > something. > I have tried to contact anyone who states as a fact > that she was daughter of Thomas and Elenor (Sullivan) > Purcell but so far no answers. Maybe your query will > bring something to light. I think I will stop > including her as a possible daughter in light of the > Lincoln County, Kentucky information. Thomas Purcell > did have a daugther name Catherine Sullivan Purcell > who married Hezekiah Lard in Nelson County, KY and > later a James in St. Louis, MO. Sorry I don't have > the James information with me, but will say there > appeared to be no connection to Jesse James. Judi > > --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: > >> As long as you've stumbled across the >> Purcell-Younger connection, here's >> some information, followed by a query. >> >> Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co >> KY, d. Nov 12, 1854, >> Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the >> Younger brothers associated >> with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, >> Col. Henry Washington >> Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah >> Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab >> Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co >> Mo. The marriage occurred >> on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was >> performed by Rev. James >> Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. >> Coleman Purcell Younger, >> b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 >> in San Jose, Santa Clara >> Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in >> California under Mexican >> rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State >> legislature, and in >> California became President of the California >> Society of Pioneers. He also >> was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury >> Woodson James, also a >> cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. >> >> It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from >> until the marriage of his >> father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in >> the Hihn-Younger archives >> at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in >> 2002. The question now >> remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan >> Purcell? Nothing more is >> known of her, other than what I've stated. Does >> anyone know? >> >> ERIC JAMES >> Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 >> www.ericjames.org >> >> Col Younger and Sarah Purcell >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Judith Purcell >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and James Sr. (brothers) >> >> Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, >> but just try and find the >> connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family >> came much later than the >> Purcells. >> If there is family tie there it is not an obvious >> one.--Judi >> >> --- [email protected] wrote: >> >> > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just >> picked up information >> > along the way because of the Belle Starr >> connection to my ex-in-law's >> > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 >> husband Rolly Bollin >> > were "colorful" characters!!! >> > >> > You might also be interested to know that Cole >> Younger & the Dulins >> > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & >> sister to Henry. >> > Always found that interesting but not surprising. >> > Don't know--but it >> > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also >> connected. The Youngers, >> > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of >> Ky-just before they >> > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. >> > Samuels, don't know now >> > who his father was. >> > >> > Mary >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM >> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and James Sr. >> > (brothers) >> > >> > >> > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I >> have >> > a bit on them. >> > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. >> > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 >> > committed fornication with Mary >> > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined >> > 30s. and ordered to give >> > > security to keep the county from any charge by >> > means of his bastard child >> > > called Alexander." >> > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is >> a >> > bit large for list. >> > > Dave >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: <[email protected]> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM >> > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> Thomas >> > and James Sr. >> > > (brothers) >> > > >> > > >> > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba >> > Leighton Fristoe were >> > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger >> > (Thomas Cole?? Have never >> > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the >> > Youngers moved to >> > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen >> > articles about the >> > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. >> and >> > Cole had a black half >> > >> sister (documented if you care to check). >> > >> >> > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra >> > Maybelle Shirley's dau >> > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle >> > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >> > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John >> & >> > Myra had a son Ed, too, >> > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr >> in >> > Ok; lived in the Eufalia >> > >> area (the same area as my >> > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >> > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My >> > daus' GGm Minnie Belle >> > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL >> > (don't ask me how she got >> > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle >> for >> > Belle >> > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey >> > were supposidly friends. >> > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising >> > when Belle shot Sam >> > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was >> told >> > this years ago by >> > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a >> > tall tale"!! Was very >> > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle >> > Starr in a magazine (IE: >> > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but >> > don't remember which) >> > >> which related the incident as well as other >> > things. >> > >> >> > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto >> pony >> > across the Indian >> > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't >> > speak a word of English. >> > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee >> > Nation, OK & are >> > >> buried at Eufalia. >> > >> >> > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- >> I >> > married their >> > >> son. >> > >> >> > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds >> > of things!!! >> > >> >> > >> Mary Yoder >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> From: "Judith Purcell" >> <[email protected]> >> > >> To: <[email protected]> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >> > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> > Thomas and James Sr. >> > >> (brothers) >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on >> > Sarah >> > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to >> > you >> > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a >> > Henry >> > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and >> Charles >> > must >> > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in >> > Indiana. >> > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the >> > most >> > >>> likely connection with this couple and the >> > Purcells >> > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor >> > Sullivan. A >> > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her >> > middle >> > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would >> > have >> > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day >> > though >> > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He >> > was an >> > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the >> Americans, >> > >>> considered a traditor because he >> > helped the >> > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't >> be >> > of >> > >>> more help. Judi Purcell >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah >> > Sullivan >> > >>>> Purcell. >> > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most >> are >> > in >> > >>>> there twice once as >> > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >> > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, >> > 1796. >> > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark >> > Twain? >> > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >> > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >> > >>>> Dave >> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" >> > <[email protected]> >> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> >> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >> > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> Thomas >> > and >> > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, >> > etc.) >> > >>>> were >> > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah >> Hite?)lived in >> > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. >> > These >> > >>>> sons >> > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. >> > Another >> > >>>> son, >> > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick >> (Allegany), >> > >>>> County >> > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found >> just >> > >>>> across >> > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA >> > around >> > >>>> > 1750. >> > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt >> > County >> > >>>> with >> > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had >> > children >> > >>>> Isaac >> > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 >> > Bullitt >> > >>>> County; >> > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >> > >>>> County; >> > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >> > >>>> LARD/LAIRD >> > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >> > >>>> chidren of >> > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >> > >>>> married >> > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan >> PURCELL >> > who >> > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >> > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna >> > (Biggerstaff?) and >> > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived >> > in >> > >>>> Nelson >> > >>>> > County. >> > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has >> > interest >> > >>>> in >> > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >> > >>>> Counties.--Judith >> > >>>> > Purcell >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best >> spam >> > >>>> protection around >> > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > __________________________________________________ >> > >>> Do You Yahoo!? >> > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> > protection around >> > >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Discover Yahoo! >> Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and >> more. Check it out! >> http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html >> >> >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >

    06/03/2005 09:17:15
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers)
    2. Judith Purcell
    3. David - Thanks for that. I will continue to keep an eye out. -- Judi Purcell --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > The Lincoln Co. birth site was picked up from a > Younger web site and has not > been proven so do not hang your hat on it. > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:42 PM > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. (brothers) > > > > Eric-- > > If Sarah Sullivan was born in Lincoln County, Ky > (if I > > am reading correctly) then it is doubtful she > would be > > a daughter of Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > Sullivan > > located in Nelson/Bullitt County, KY in 1780. > Thomas > > Purcell had 400 acres of land there surveyed by > Daniel > > Sullivan (bro. to Elenor). Sorry I was not able > to > > find more through my research in trying to find > the > > Purcell connection. I did not find anything in > Clark > > County, Indiana regarding Purcells except for this > > marriage. But anyone should feel free to check as > > certainly a more in-depth research might turn up > > something. > > I have tried to contact anyone who states as a > fact > > that she was daughter of Thomas and Elenor > (Sullivan) > > Purcell but so far no answers. Maybe your query > will > > bring something to light. I think I will stop > > including her as a possible daughter in light of > the > > Lincoln County, Kentucky information. Thomas > Purcell > > did have a daugther name Catherine Sullivan > Purcell > > who married Hezekiah Lard in Nelson County, KY and > > later a James in St. Louis, MO. Sorry I don't > have > > the James information with me, but will say there > > appeared to be no connection to Jesse James. Judi > > > > --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> As long as you've stumbled across the > >> Purcell-Younger connection, here's > >> some information, followed by a query. > >> > >> Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas > Co > >> KY, d. Nov 12, 1854, > >> Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the > >> Younger brothers associated > >> with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's > son, > >> Col. Henry Washington > >> Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah > >> Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab > >> Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay > Co > >> Mo. The marriage occurred > >> on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and > was > >> performed by Rev. James > >> Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. > >> Coleman Purcell Younger, > >> b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, > 1890 > >> in San Jose, Santa Clara > >> Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in > >> California under Mexican > >> rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State > >> legislature, and in > >> California became President of the California > >> Society of Pioneers. He also > >> was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle > Drury > >> Woodson James, also a > >> cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. > >> > >> It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from > >> until the marriage of his > >> father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered > in > >> the Hihn-Younger archives > >> at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in > >> 2002. The question now > >> remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan > >> Purcell? Nothing more is > >> known of her, other than what I've stated. Does > >> anyone know? > >> > >> ERIC JAMES > >> Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since > 1650 > >> www.ericjames.org > >> > >> Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Judith Purcell > >> [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas > >> and James Sr. (brothers) > >> > >> Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were > cousins, > >> but just try and find the > >> connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family > >> came much later than the > >> Purcells. > >> If there is family tie there it is not an obvious > >> one.--Judi > >> > >> --- [email protected] wrote: > >> > >> > Not really intersted in the Younger > Family--just > >> picked up information > >> > along the way because of the Belle Starr > >> connection to my ex-in-law's > >> > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 > >> husband Rolly Bollin > >> > were "colorful" characters!!! > >> > > >> > You might also be interested to know that Cole > >> Younger & the Dulins > >> > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a > Younger & > >> sister to Henry. > >> > Always found that interesting but not > surprising. > >> > Don't know--but it > >> > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also > >> connected. The Youngers, > >> > the Dulins & the James all form the same area > of > >> Ky-just before they > >> > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > >> > Samuels, don't know now > >> > who his father was. > >> > > >> > Mary > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > >> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas > >> and James Sr. > >> > (brothers) > >> > > >> > > >> > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I > >> have > >> > a bit on them. > >> > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that > family. > >> > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > >> > committed fornication with Mary > >> > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was > fined > >> > 30s. and ordered to give > >> > > security to keep the county from any charge > by > >> > means of his bastard child > >> > > called Alexander." > >> > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it > is > >> a > >> > bit large for list. > >> > > Dave > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: <[email protected]> > >> > > To: <[email protected]> > >> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > >> > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > >> Thomas > >> > and James Sr. > >> > > (brothers) > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & > Beersheba > >> > Leighton Fristoe were > >> > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole > Younger > >> > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > >> > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings > the > >> > Youngers moved to > >> > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have > seen > >> > articles about the > >> > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. > >> and > >> > Cole had a black half > >> > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > >> > >> > >> > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > >> > Maybelle Shirley's dau > >> > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra > Maybelle > >> > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > >> > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. > John > >> & > >> > Myra had a son Ed, too, > >> > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam > Starr > >> in > >> > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > >> > >> area (the same area as my > >> > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > >> > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > >> > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > >> > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, > IL > >> > (don't ask me how she got > >> > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named > Belle > >> for > >> > Belle > >> > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin > Ramsey > >> > were supposidly friends. > >> > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn > raising > >> > when Belle shot Sam > >> > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was > >> told > >> > this years ago by > >> > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling > a > >> > tall tale"!! Was very > >> > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > >> > Starr in a magazine (IE: > >> > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times > but > >> > don't remember which) > >> > >> which related the incident as well as other > >> > things. > >> > >> > >> > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto > >> pony > >> > across the Indian > >> > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > >> > speak a word of English. > >> > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, > Cherokee > >> > Nation, OK & are > >> > >> buried at Eufalia. > >> > >> > >> > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry > Yoder-- > >> I > >> > married their > >> > >> son. > >> > >> > >> > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all > kinds > >> > of things!!! > >> > >> > >> > >> Mary Yoder > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> From: "Judith Purcell" > >> <[email protected]> > >> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > >> > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > >> > Thomas and James Sr. > >> > >> (brothers) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything > on > >> > Sarah > >> > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back > to > >> > you > >> > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was > a > >> > Henry > >> > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and > >> Charles > >> > must > >> > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > >> > Indiana. > >> > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that > the > >> > most > >> > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > >> > Purcells > >> > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > >> > Sullivan. A > >> > >>> younger descendant told me that she said > her > >> > middle > >> > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who > would > >> > have > >> > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his > day > >> > though > >> > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. > He > >> > was an > >> > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for > the > >> Americans, > >> > >>> considered a traditor because he > >> > helped the > >> > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I > couldn't > >> be > >> > of > >> > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > >> > Sullivan > >> > >>>> Purcell. > >> > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most > >> are > >> > in > >> > >>>> there twice once as > >> > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > >> > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. > 4, > >> > 1796. > >> > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > >> > Twain? > >> > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > >> > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > >> > >>>> Dave > >> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > >> > <[email protected]> > >> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > >> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > >> > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > >> Thomas > >> > and > >> > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell > (Pursley, > >> > etc.) > >> > >>>> were > >> > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife > Keziah > >> Hite?)lived in > >> > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. > >> > These > >> > >>>> sons > >> > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > >> > Another > >> > >>>> son, > >> > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick > >> (Allegany), > >> > >>>> County > >> > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found > >> just > >> > >>>> across > >> > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, > VA > >> > around > >> > >>>> > 1750. > >> > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > >> > County > >> > >>>> with > >> > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > >> > children > >> > >>>> Isaac > >> > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > >> > Bullitt > >> > >>>> County; > >> > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived > Bullitt > >> > >>>> County; > >> > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of > Hezekiah > >> > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > >> > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible > other > >> > >>>> chidren of > >> > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL > who > >> > >>>> married > >> > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan > >> PURCELL > >> > who > >> > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > >> > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > >> > (Biggerstaff?) and > >> > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth > lived > >> > in > >> > >>>> Nelson > >> > >>>> > County. > >> > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > >> > interest > >> > >>>> in > >> > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > >> > >>>> Counties.--Judith > >> > >>>> > Purcell > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > > __________________________________________________ > >> > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > >> > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best > >> spam > >> > >>>> protection around > >> > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > __________________________________________________ > >> > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > >> > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best > spam > >> > protection around > >> > >>> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __________________________________ > >> Discover Yahoo! > >> Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news > and > >> more. Check it out! > >> http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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    06/03/2005 07:26:46
    1. RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers)
    2. Eric James
    3. If you're referring to the Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co KY birth citation for Sarah Sullivan Purcell, it was obtained directly from the Hihn-Younger archive of documents at the University of Santa Cruz, California. -----Original Message----- From: David Lee [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) The Lincoln Co. birth site was picked up from a Younger web site and has not been proven so do not hang your hat on it. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > Eric-- > If Sarah Sullivan was born in Lincoln County, Ky (if I am reading > correctly) then it is doubtful she would be a daughter of Thomas > Purcell and wife Elenor Sullivan located in Nelson/Bullitt County, KY > in 1780. Thomas Purcell had 400 acres of land there surveyed by > Daniel Sullivan (bro. to Elenor). Sorry I was not able to find more > through my research in trying to find the Purcell connection. I did > not find anything in Clark County, Indiana regarding Purcells except > for this marriage. But anyone should feel free to check as certainly > a more in-depth research might turn up something. > I have tried to contact anyone who states as a fact that she was > daughter of Thomas and Elenor (Sullivan) Purcell but so far no > answers. Maybe your query will bring something to light. I think I > will stop including her as a possible daughter in light of the Lincoln > County, Kentucky information. Thomas Purcell did have a daugther name > Catherine Sullivan Purcell who married Hezekiah Lard in Nelson County, > KY and later a James in St. Louis, MO. Sorry I don't have the James > information with me, but will say there appeared to be no connection > to Jesse James. Judi > > --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: > >> As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, >> here's some information, followed by a query. >> >> Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, >> 1854, Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger >> brothers associated with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's >> son, Col. Henry Washington Younger. The elder Col. Younger married >> Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan >> 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage occurred on Aug 21, 1807 in >> Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. James Lemon. They >> had six children, among whom was Col. >> Coleman Purcell Younger, >> b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa >> Clara Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California >> under Mexican rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State >> legislature, and in California became President of the California >> Society of Pioneers. He also was associated with Jesse & Frank James' >> uncle Drury Woodson James, also a cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, >> CA. >> >> It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage >> of his father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the >> Hihn-Younger archives at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in >> 2002. The question now remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah >> Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is known of her, other than what I've >> stated. Does anyone know? >> >> ERIC JAMES >> Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 www.ericjames.org >> >> Col Younger and Sarah Purcell >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Judith Purcell >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. >> (brothers) >> >> Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and >> find the connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much >> later than the Purcells. >> If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi >> >> --- [email protected] wrote: >> >> > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just >> picked up information >> > along the way because of the Belle Starr >> connection to my ex-in-law's >> > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 >> husband Rolly Bollin >> > were "colorful" characters!!! >> > >> > You might also be interested to know that Cole >> Younger & the Dulins >> > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & >> sister to Henry. >> > Always found that interesting but not surprising. >> > Don't know--but it >> > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also >> connected. The Youngers, >> > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of >> Ky-just before they >> > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. >> > Samuels, don't know now >> > who his father was. >> > >> > Mary >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM >> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and James Sr. >> > (brothers) >> > >> > >> > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I >> have >> > a bit on them. >> > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. >> > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 >> > committed fornication with Mary >> > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined >> > 30s. and ordered to give >> > > security to keep the county from any charge by >> > means of his bastard child >> > > called Alexander." >> > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is >> a >> > bit large for list. >> > > Dave >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: <[email protected]> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM >> > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> Thomas >> > and James Sr. >> > > (brothers) >> > > >> > > >> > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba >> > Leighton Fristoe were >> > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger >> > (Thomas Cole?? Have never >> > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the >> > Youngers moved to >> > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen >> > articles about the >> > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. >> and >> > Cole had a black half >> > >> sister (documented if you care to check). >> > >> >> > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra >> > Maybelle Shirley's dau >> > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle >> > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >> > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John >> & >> > Myra had a son Ed, too, >> > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr >> in >> > Ok; lived in the Eufalia >> > >> area (the same area as my >> > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >> > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My >> > daus' GGm Minnie Belle >> > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL >> > (don't ask me how she got >> > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle >> for >> > Belle >> > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey >> > were supposidly friends. >> > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising >> > when Belle shot Sam >> > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was >> told >> > this years ago by >> > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a >> > tall tale"!! Was very >> > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle >> > Starr in a magazine (IE: >> > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but >> > don't remember which) >> > >> which related the incident as well as other >> > things. >> > >> >> > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto >> pony >> > across the Indian >> > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't >> > speak a word of English. >> > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee >> > Nation, OK & are >> > >> buried at Eufalia. >> > >> >> > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- >> I >> > married their >> > >> son. >> > >> >> > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds >> > of things!!! >> > >> >> > >> Mary Yoder >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> From: "Judith Purcell" >> <[email protected]> >> > >> To: <[email protected]> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >> > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> > Thomas and James Sr. >> > >> (brothers) >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on >> > Sarah >> > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to >> > you >> > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a >> > Henry >> > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and >> Charles >> > must >> > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in >> > Indiana. >> > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the >> > most >> > >>> likely connection with this couple and the >> > Purcells >> > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor >> > Sullivan. A >> > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her >> > middle >> > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would >> > have >> > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day >> > though >> > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He >> > was an >> > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the >> Americans, >> > >>> considered a traditor because he >> > helped the >> > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't >> be >> > of >> > >>> more help. Judi Purcell >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah >> > Sullivan >> > >>>> Purcell. >> > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most >> are >> > in >> > >>>> there twice once as >> > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >> > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, >> > 1796. >> > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark >> > Twain? >> > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >> > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >> > >>>> Dave >> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" >> > <[email protected]> >> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> >> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >> > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> Thomas >> > and >> > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, >> > etc.) >> > >>>> were >> > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah >> Hite?)lived in >> > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. >> > These >> > >>>> sons >> > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. >> > Another >> > >>>> son, >> > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick >> (Allegany), >> > >>>> County >> > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found >> just >> > >>>> across >> > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA >> > around >> > >>>> > 1750. >> > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt >> > County >> > >>>> with >> > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had >> > children >> > >>>> Isaac >> > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 >> > Bullitt >> > >>>> County; >> > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >> > >>>> County; >> > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >> > >>>> LARD/LAIRD >> > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >> > >>>> chidren of >> > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >> > >>>> married >> > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan >> PURCELL >> > who >> > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >> > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna >> > (Biggerstaff?) and >> > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived >> > in >> > >>>> Nelson >> > >>>> > County. >> > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has >> > interest >> > >>>> in >> > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >> > >>>> Counties.--Judith >> > >>>> > Purcell >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best >> spam >> > >>>> protection around >> > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > __________________________________________________ >> > >>> Do You Yahoo!? >> > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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