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    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers)
    2. Correction!!! Should have said Charles' son Henry b 1810-- son Cole was born 1844 (d 1916 of a heart attack--d in MO). ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > Trees on rootsweb.com gives Charles Younger with at least 4 wives-- > one of them being Sarah Purcell. Another wife was a Hatfield "of the > feuding Hatfields of W Va & Ky" (which was much later!!!) Check them out > & take with a grain of salt until you prove the data!!! > > We are tossing out all these names & very few dates. > > I ASSUME Daniel Purcell b ca 1730-40 since he was in the Indian Wars > pre-dating the Rev War/Rev War?? I ASSUME Dennis, James Jr & Thomas > Purcell b ca 1750-60? to be in Jefferson/Nelson Co by 1784. Haven't seen > any Rev War service for them yet- so MAY not have served???) I ASSUME > Charles Younger b ca 177-ish??? (next gen down) because son Cole b 1810 (d > 1916 Mo- was one of the youngest sons). > > How is my time line?? > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba Leighton Fristoe were >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger (Thomas Cole?? Have never >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the Youngers moved to >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen articles about the >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and Cole had a black half >> sister (documented if you care to check). >> >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra Maybelle Shirley's dau >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & Myra had a son Ed, too, >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in Ok; lived in the Eufalia >> area (the same area as my Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My daus' GGm Minnie Belle >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL (don't ask me how she got >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for Belle >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey were supposidly friends. >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising when Belle shot Sam >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told this years ago by >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a tall tale"!! Was very >> surprised when I read an article about Belle Starr in a magazine (IE: >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but don't remember which) >> which related the incident as well as other things. >> >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony across the Indian >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't speak a word of English. >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee Nation, OK & are >> buried at Eufalia. >> >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I married their >> son. >> >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds of things!!! >> >> Mary Yoder >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. >> (brothers) >> >> >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on Sarah >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to you >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a Henry >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles must >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in Indiana. >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the most >>> likely connection with this couple and the Purcells >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor Sullivan. A >>> younger descendant told me that she said her middle >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would have >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day though >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He was an >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the >>> Americans, considered a traditor because he helped the >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be of >>> more help. Judi Purcell >>> >>> >>> >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah Sullivan >>>> Purcell. >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are in >>>> there twice once as >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, 1796. >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark Twain? >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >>>> Dave >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >>>> >>>> >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, etc.) >>>> were >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah >>>> > Hite?)lived in Frederick County, Maryland. These >>>> sons >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. Another >>>> son, >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), >>>> County >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just >>>> across >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA around >>>> > 1750. >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt County >>>> with >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had children >>>> Isaac >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 Bullitt >>>> County; >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >>>> County; >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >>>> LARD/LAIRD >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >>>> chidren of >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >>>> married >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL who >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna (Biggerstaff?) and >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived in >>>> Nelson >>>> > County. >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has interest >>>> in >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >>>> Counties.--Judith >>>> > Purcell >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > __________________________________________________ >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >>>> protection around >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >

    06/03/2005 01:49:59
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers)
    2. Judith Purcell
    3. Mary -- I think you are pretty close on your time line except I would say Daniel Purcell b. 1720 to 1730 as he got land in Hampshire County about 1750. Had not seen Rev. War Service for him. Thanks!! Also, the brothers Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. Purcell did serve under George Rogers Clark out of Kentucky. This was in the Indian Expeditions to Indiana 1780 (all three), and later (1781 - 1783) for a couple of them. This service is considered Revolutionary and was accepted for Thomas Purcell by DAR. The reason is that Indians were incited and encourged by the English to take American scalps and they were attacking the Kentucky frontier to such an extent something had to be done. This was when Kentucky was included in VA and records are there. Lots of good history available. Later service can be found elsewhere, but no Purcells after that. I think you are right with time range for the sons of Daniel. It is good to put a range rather than an approximate date as there was another Thomas Purcell b about 1750 and I don't want people to confuse the two. They were the only Purcell family we found in Frederick County (Allegany), Maryland at the time. I have some family information on the Youngers but didn't research that myself. Yes, take it with a grain of salt. It is speculation at this point. I found Family Forums under genforum.genealogy.com/ for both Purcell and Younger. Under Purcell Family Forum someone has Sarah Purcell b. 1788 KY and d. before 11 Jan 1859 Clay County, MO. for the Sarah that married Charles Younger. Suppose she was in the 1850 census? I will not add more here as that would be duplicating something that would easy to get from that source. -- Judi --- [email protected] wrote: > Correction!!! > > Should have said Charles' son Henry b 1810-- son > Cole was born 1844 (d 1916 > of a heart attack--d in MO). > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:46 AM > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. (brothers) > > > > Trees on rootsweb.com gives Charles Younger with > at least 4 wives-- > > one of them being Sarah Purcell. Another wife was > a Hatfield "of the > > feuding Hatfields of W Va & Ky" (which was much > later!!!) Check them out > > & take with a grain of salt until you prove the > data!!! > > > > We are tossing out all these names & very few > dates. > > > > I ASSUME Daniel Purcell b ca 1730-40 since he was > in the Indian Wars > > pre-dating the Rev War/Rev War?? I ASSUME Dennis, > James Jr & Thomas > > Purcell b ca 1750-60? to be in Jefferson/Nelson Co > by 1784. Haven't seen > > any Rev War service for them yet- so MAY not have > served???) I ASSUME > > Charles Younger b ca 177-ish??? (next gen down) > because son Cole b 1810 (d > > 1916 Mo- was one of the youngest sons). > > > > How is my time line?? > > > > Mary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. > > (brothers) > > > > > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > Leighton Fristoe were > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the > Youngers moved to > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen > articles about the > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and > Cole had a black half > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > >> > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > Maybelle Shirley's dau > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & > Myra had a son Ed, too, > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > >> area (the same area as my > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > (don't ask me how she got > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for > Belle > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > were supposidly friends. > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising > when Belle shot Sam > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told > this years ago by > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > tall tale"!! Was very > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > Starr in a magazine (IE: > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > don't remember which) > >> which related the incident as well as other > things. > >> > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony > across the Indian > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > speak a word of English. > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee > Nation, OK & are > >> buried at Eufalia. > >> > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I > married their > >> son. > >> > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds > of things!!! > >> > >> Mary Yoder > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas and James Sr. > >> (brothers) > >> > >> > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on > Sarah > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to > you > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > Henry > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles > must > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > Indiana. > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > most > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > Purcells > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > Sullivan. A > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > middle > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would > have > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day > though > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He > was an > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the > >>> Americans, considered a traditor because he > helped the > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be > of > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > Sullivan > >>>> Purcell. > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are > in > >>>> there twice once as > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, > 1796. > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > Twain? > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > >>>> Dave > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > <[email protected]> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, > etc.) > >>>> were > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah > >>>> > Hite?)lived in Frederick County, Maryland. > These > >>>> sons > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > Another > >>>> son, > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), > >>>> County > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just > >>>> across > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA > around > >>>> > 1750. > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > County > >>>> with > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > children > >>>> Isaac > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > Bullitt > >>>> County; > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt > >>>> County; > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other > >>>> chidren of > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who > >>>> married > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL > who > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > (Biggerstaff?) and > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived > in > >>>> Nelson > >>>> > County. > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > interest > >>>> in > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > >>>> Counties.--Judith > >>>> > Purcell > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > __________________________________________________ > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > >>>> protection around > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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    06/03/2005 05:25:17