Kathie, Check out Eric James' web site!!!! It is really great!!! Have only barely scratched the surface there but have found very important data!!! Hope you have as much luck & can fill Eric in on your line. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Kathleen Felsted" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:43 AM Subject: [KYNELSON-L] James > When I was researching my Hanks line in Muskingum and Coshocton County, > Ohio, a James family member told me that their James family was related to > the James Brothers. Who knows if this is true? These former Quaker > families > (James, Hanks, and others) came from Loudoun County, Virginia to Ohio in > about 1815. Some of these Quakers came down from eastern Pennsylvania in > 1750-60s (Jackson, Janney, etc)and others (like the Hanks) came from > Virginia to Maryland and converted to Quakerism there. The Quakers did not > last long in Virginia due to religious issues, so they scattered other > places. Some families went west to Ohio and changed religions, some > remained Quakers and went to the Bedford Co., Pennsylvania area and others > (like my Jackson line) disappeared other places - probably Kentucky or > further south, following the typical migration route (along I-81) into > southern Virginia, North Carolina, etc. > James only married into my Hanks, so I don't have much on them. Earliest > I > have is a James James (b. abt 1775) who married Sarah Hanks about 1800? > The > original James might have been Quakers in Pennsylvania. > Just a thought! > Kathie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:03 PM > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > > | As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, here's > | some information, followed by a query. > | > | Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, > 1854, > | Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers > associated > | with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry > Washington > | Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 > Crab > | Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage > occurred > | on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. > James > | Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell > Younger, > | b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa > Clara > | Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under > Mexican > | rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in > | California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He > also > | was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, also > a > | cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. > | > | It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage of > his > | father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger > archives > | at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now > | remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is > | known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? > | > | ERIC JAMES > | Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 > | www.ericjames.org > | > | Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] > | Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > | To: [email protected] > | Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > | > | Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find > the > | connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than > the > | Purcells. > | If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi > | > | --- [email protected] wrote: > | > | > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up information > | > along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my ex-in-law's > | > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin > | > were "colorful" characters!!! > | > > | > You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins > | > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. > | > Always found that interesting but not surprising. > | > Don't know--but it > | > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The Youngers, > | > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before they > | > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > | > Samuels, don't know now > | > who his father was. > | > > | > Mary > | > > | > ----- Original Message ----- > | > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > | > To: <[email protected]> > | > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > | > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > | > (brothers) > | > > | > > | > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have > | > a bit on them. > | > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. > | > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > | > committed fornication with Mary > | > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined > | > 30s. and ordered to give > | > > security to keep the county from any charge by > | > means of his bastard child > | > > called Alexander." > | > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a > | > bit large for list. > | > > Dave > | > > > | > > ----- Original Message ----- > | > > From: <[email protected]> > | > > To: <[email protected]> > | > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > | > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > | > and James Sr. > | > > (brothers) > | > > > | > > > | > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > | > Leighton Fristoe were > | > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger > | > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > | > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the > | > Youngers moved to > | > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen > | > articles about the > | > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and > | > Cole had a black half > | > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > | > >> > | > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > | > Maybelle Shirley's dau > | > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle > | > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > | > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & > | > Myra had a son Ed, too, > | > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in > | > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > | > >> area (the same area as my > | > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > | > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > | > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > | > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > | > (don't ask me how she got > | > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for > | > Belle > | > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > | > were supposidly friends. > | > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising > | > when Belle shot Sam > | > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told > | > this years ago by > | > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > | > tall tale"!! Was very > | > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > | > Starr in a magazine (IE: > | > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > | > don't remember which) > | > >> which related the incident as well as other > | > things. > | > >> > | > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony > | > across the Indian > | > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > | > speak a word of English. > | > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee > | > Nation, OK & are > | > >> buried at Eufalia. > | > >> > | > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I > | > married their > | > >> son. > | > >> > | > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds > | > of things!!! > | > >> > | > >> Mary Yoder > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> ----- Original Message ----- > | > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > | > >> To: <[email protected]> > | > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > | > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > | > Thomas and James Sr. > | > >> (brothers) > | > >> > | > >> > | > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on > | > Sarah > | > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to > | > you > | > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > | > Henry > | > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles > | > must > | > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > | > Indiana. > | > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > | > most > | > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > | > Purcells > | > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > | > Sullivan. A > | > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > | > middle > | > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would > | > have > | > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day > | > though > | > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He > | > was an > | > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, > | > >>> considered a traditor because he > | > helped the > | > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be > | > of > | > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > | > >>> > | > >>> > | > >>> > | > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > | > >>> > | > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > | > Sullivan > | > >>>> Purcell. > | > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are > | > in > | > >>>> there twice once as > | > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > | > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, > | > 1796. > | > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > | > Twain? > | > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > | > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > | > >>>> Dave > | > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > | > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > | > <[email protected]> > | > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > | > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > | > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > | > and > | > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > | > >>>> > | > >>>> > | > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, > | > etc.) > | > >>>> were > | > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in > | > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. > | > These > | > >>>> sons > | > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > | > Another > | > >>>> son, > | > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), > | > >>>> County > | > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just > | > >>>> across > | > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA > | > around > | > >>>> > 1750. > | > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > | > County > | > >>>> with > | > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > | > children > | > >>>> Isaac > | > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > | > Bullitt > | > >>>> County; > | > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt > | > >>>> County; > | > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah > | > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > | > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other > | > >>>> chidren of > | > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who > | > >>>> married > | > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL > | > who > | > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > | > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > | > (Biggerstaff?) and > | > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived > | > in > | > >>>> Nelson > | > >>>> > County. > | > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > | > interest > | > >>>> in > | > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > | > >>>> Counties.--Judith > | > >>>> > Purcell > | > >>>> > > | > >>>> > > | > >>>> > > | > __________________________________________________ > | > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > | > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Hi Mary, I did check out his site! Very awesome! http://www.ericjames.org/ I see many of my family names there - so I will be spending some time perusing through these.... It looks like he has his earliest James in southern VA 1725 ish. These guys could have also been Scotch-Irish (rough and tumble type people... I think many of mine were these). Quakers, Germans, Scotch-Irish all migrated down the Shenandoah Valley corridor trying to find land, get away from religious persecution, etc. Many then fanned out into Kentucky or NC then into KY or Tenn., etc. Now, if I can get as half as knowledgeable as many on these Kentucky lists, I would be happy! Kathie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] James | Kathie, | | Check out Eric James' web site!!!! It is really great!!! Have only barely | scratched the surface there but have found very important data!!! | | Hope you have as much luck & can fill Eric in on your line. | Mary | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "M. Kathleen Felsted" <[email protected]> | To: <[email protected]> | Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:43 AM | Subject: [KYNELSON-L] James | | | > When I was researching my Hanks line in Muskingum and Coshocton County, | > Ohio, a James family member told me that their James family was related to | > the James Brothers. Who knows if this is true? These former Quaker | > families | > (James, Hanks, and others) came from Loudoun County, Virginia to Ohio in | > about 1815. Some of these Quakers came down from eastern Pennsylvania in | > 1750-60s (Jackson, Janney, etc)and others (like the Hanks) came from | > Virginia to Maryland and converted to Quakerism there. The Quakers did not | > last long in Virginia due to religious issues, so they scattered other | > places. Some families went west to Ohio and changed religions, some | > remained Quakers and went to the Bedford Co., Pennsylvania area and others | > (like my Jackson line) disappeared other places - probably Kentucky or | > further south, following the typical migration route (along I-81) into | > southern Virginia, North Carolina, etc. | > James only married into my Hanks, so I don't have much on them. Earliest | > I | > have is a James James (b. abt 1775) who married Sarah Hanks about 1800? | > The | > original James might have been Quakers in Pennsylvania. | > Just a thought! | > Kathie | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> | > To: <[email protected]> | > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:03 PM | > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. | > (brothers) | > | > | > | As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, here's | > | some information, followed by a query. | > | | > | Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, | > 1854, | > | Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers | > associated | > | with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry | > Washington | > | Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 | > Crab | > | Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage | > occurred | > | on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. | > James | > | Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell | > Younger, | > | b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa | > Clara | > | Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under | > Mexican | > | rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in | > | California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He | > also | > | was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, also | > a | > | cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. | > | | > | It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage of | > his | > | father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger | > archives | > | at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now | > | remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is | > | known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? | > | | > | ERIC JAMES | > | Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 | > | www.ericjames.org | > | | > | Col Younger and Sarah Purcell | > | | > | -----Original Message----- | > | From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] | > | Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM | > | To: [email protected] | > | Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. | > (brothers) | > | | > | Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find | > the | > | connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than | > the | > | Purcells. | > | If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi | > | | > | --- [email protected] wrote: | > | | > | > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up information | > | > along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my ex-in-law's | > | > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin | > | > were "colorful" characters!!! | > | > | > | > You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins | > | > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. | > | > Always found that interesting but not surprising. | > | > Don't know--but it | > | > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The Youngers, | > | > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before they | > | > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. | > | > Samuels, don't know now | > | > who his father was. | > | > | > | > Mary | > | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> | > | > To: <[email protected]> | > | > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM | > | > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. | > | > (brothers) | > | > | > | > | > | > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have | > | > a bit on them. | > | > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. | > | > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 | > | > committed fornication with Mary | > | > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined | > | > 30s. and ordered to give | > | > > security to keep the county from any charge by | > | > means of his bastard child | > | > > called Alexander." | > | > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a | > | > bit large for list. | > | > > Dave | > | > > | > | > > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > > From: <[email protected]> | > | > > To: <[email protected]> | > | > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM | > | > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas | > | > and James Sr. | > | > > (brothers) | > | > > | > | > > | > | > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba | > | > Leighton Fristoe were | > | > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger | > | > (Thomas Cole?? Have never | > | > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the | > | > Youngers moved to | > | > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen | > | > articles about the | > | > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and | > | > Cole had a black half | > | > >> sister (documented if you care to check). | > | > >> | > | > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra | > | > Maybelle Shirley's dau | > | > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle | > | > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie | > | > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & | > | > Myra had a son Ed, too, | > | > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in | > | > Ok; lived in the Eufalia | > | > >> area (the same area as my | > | > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys | > | > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My | > | > daus' GGm Minnie Belle | > | > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL | > | > (don't ask me how she got | > | > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for | > | > Belle | > | > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey | > | > were supposidly friends. | > | > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising | > | > when Belle shot Sam | > | > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told | > | > this years ago by | > | > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a | > | > tall tale"!! Was very | > | > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle | > | > Starr in a magazine (IE: | > | > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but | > | > don't remember which) | > | > >> which related the incident as well as other | > | > things. | > | > >> | > | > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony | > | > across the Indian | > | > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't | > | > speak a word of English. | > | > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee | > | > Nation, OK & are | > | > >> buried at Eufalia. | > | > >> | > | > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I | > | > married their | > | > >> son. | > | > >> | > | > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds | > | > of things!!! | > | > >> | > | > >> Mary Yoder | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> ----- Original Message ----- | > | > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> | > | > >> To: <[email protected]> | > | > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM | > | > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, | > | > Thomas and James Sr. | > | > >> (brothers) | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on | > | > Sarah | > | > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to | > | > you | > | > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a | > | > Henry | > | > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles | > | > must | > | > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in | > | > Indiana. | > | > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the | > | > most | > | > >>> likely connection with this couple and the | > | > Purcells | > | > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor | > | > Sullivan. A | > | > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her | > | > middle | > | > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would | > | > have | > | > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day | > | > though | > | > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He | > | > was an | > | > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, | > | > >>> considered a traditor because he | > | > helped the | > | > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be | > | > of | > | > >>> more help. Judi Purcell | > | > >>> | > | > >>> | > | > >>> | > | > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: | > | > >>> | > | > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah | > | > Sullivan | > | > >>>> Purcell. | > | > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are | > | > in | > | > >>>> there twice once as | > | > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. | > | > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, | > | > 1796. | > | > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark | > | > Twain? | > | > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl | > | > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. | > | > >>>> Dave | > | > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- | > | > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" | > | > <[email protected]> | > | > >>>> To: <[email protected]> | > | > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM | > | > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas | > | > and | > | > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) | > | > >>>> | > | > >>>> | > | > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, | > | > etc.) | > | > >>>> were | > | > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in | > | > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. | > | > These | > | > >>>> sons | > | > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. | > | > Another | > | > >>>> son, | > | > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), | > | > >>>> County | > | > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just | > | > >>>> across | > | > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA | > | > around | > | > >>>> > 1750. | > | > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt | > | > County | > | > >>>> with | > | > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had | > | > children | > | > >>>> Isaac | > | > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 | > | > Bullitt | > | > >>>> County; | > | > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt | > | > >>>> County; | > | > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah | > | > >>>> LARD/LAIRD | > | > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other | > | > >>>> chidren of | > | > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who | > | > >>>> married | > | > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL | > | > who | > | > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. | > | > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna | > | > (Biggerstaff?) and | > | > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived | > | > in | > | > >>>> Nelson | > | > >>>> > County. | > | > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has | > | > interest | > | > >>>> in | > | > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt | > | > >>>> Counties.--Judith | > | > >>>> > Purcell | > | > >>>> > | > | > >>>> > | > | > >>>> > | > | > __________________________________________________ | > | > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? | > | > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Kathie, The one page copy from a book I have may explain the James family origin you referred to. I had an email ready to go with names of childen and spouses, etc.which included the earliest from Scotland down to Henry and Beersheba and my computer popped up and said -Error in somthing or other- I lost the email. If you want more info will try again. From the article--Three brothers came from Scotland: Alexander, Andre, *Thomas. Thomas had a son *Humphrey b1680 will probated 1740 Kent Co. Md. who married Mary ___. Their children were *John Humphrey, James, Thomas. *John married Sarah Kennard (Mary Pearce left a will probated Kent Co. Md. 1743 naming Sarah Kennard daughter. Phillip Kennard left will naming wife Sarah___1739 Kent Co. Md. Vital rec. show that Philip Kennard had grandsons John and James Younger. Children of John Younger and Sarah Kennard were Thomas, Joseph, Elizabeth, Kennard, John,*Joshua born 5-11-1752, Henry and James. The line continues with; Joshua Younger b 5-11-1752 Hampshire Co Va. died 8-2-1834 Lawrence Co. Va. mar Elizabeth Lee Charles Lee Younger b 1783 mar Sarah S. Purcell Henry (Harry) Washington Younger b 1812 mar Beersheba Fristoe Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Kathleen Felsted" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] James > Hi Mary, > I did check out his site! Very awesome! http://www.ericjames.org/ I see > many of my family names there - so I will be spending some time perusing > through these.... > It looks like he has his earliest James in southern VA 1725 ish. These guys > could have also been Scotch-Irish (rough and tumble type people... I think > many of mine were these). Quakers, Germans, Scotch-Irish all migrated down > the Shenandoah Valley corridor trying to find land, get away from religious > persecution, etc. Many then fanned out into Kentucky or NC then into KY or > Tenn., etc. > Now, if I can get as half as knowledgeable as many on these Kentucky lists, > I would be happy! > Kathie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] James > > > | Kathie, > | > | Check out Eric James' web site!!!! It is really great!!! Have only barely > | scratched the surface there but have found very important data!!! > | > | Hope you have as much luck & can fill Eric in on your line. > | Mary > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "M. Kathleen Felsted" <[email protected]> > | To: <[email protected]> > | Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:43 AM > | Subject: [KYNELSON-L] James > | > | > | > When I was researching my Hanks line in Muskingum and Coshocton County, > | > Ohio, a James family member told me that their James family was related > to > | > the James Brothers. Who knows if this is true? These former Quaker > | > families > | > (James, Hanks, and others) came from Loudoun County, Virginia to Ohio in > | > about 1815. Some of these Quakers came down from eastern Pennsylvania > in > | > 1750-60s (Jackson, Janney, etc)and others (like the Hanks) came from > | > Virginia to Maryland and converted to Quakerism there. The Quakers did > not > | > last long in Virginia due to religious issues, so they scattered other > | > places. Some families went west to Ohio and changed religions, some > | > remained Quakers and went to the Bedford Co., Pennsylvania area and > others > | > (like my Jackson line) disappeared other places - probably Kentucky or > | > further south, following the typical migration route (along I-81) into > | > southern Virginia, North Carolina, etc. > | > James only married into my Hanks, so I don't have much on them. > Earliest > | > I > | > have is a James James (b. abt 1775) who married Sarah Hanks about 1800? > | > The > | > original James might have been Quakers in Pennsylvania. > | > Just a thought! > | > Kathie > | > > | > ----- Original Message ----- > | > From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> > | > To: <[email protected]> > | > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:03 PM > | > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > | > (brothers) > | > > | > > | > | As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, > here's > | > | some information, followed by a query. > | > | > | > | Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, > | > 1854, > | > | Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers > | > associated > | > | with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry > | > Washington > | > | Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. > 1782 > | > Crab > | > | Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage > | > occurred > | > | on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. > | > James > | > | Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell > | > Younger, > | > | b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa > | > Clara > | > | Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under > | > Mexican > | > | rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in > | > | California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He > | > also > | > | was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, > also > | > a > | > | cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. > | > | > | > | It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage > of > | > his > | > | father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger > | > archives > | > | at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now > | > | remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more > is > | > | known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? > | > | > | > | ERIC JAMES > | > | Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 > | > | www.ericjames.org > | > | > | > | Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > | > | > | > | -----Original Message----- > | > | From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] > | > | Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > | > | To: [email protected] > | > | Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > | > (brothers) > | > | > | > | Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and > find > | > the > | > | connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than > | > the > | > | Purcells. > | > | If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi > | > | > | > | --- [email protected] wrote: > | > | > | > | > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up > information > | > | > along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my > ex-in-law's > | > | > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin > | > | > were "colorful" characters!!! > | > | > > | > | > You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins > | > | > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. > | > | > Always found that interesting but not surprising. > | > | > Don't know--but it > | > | > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The > Youngers, > | > | > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before > they > | > | > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > | > | > Samuels, don't know now > | > | > who his father was. > | > | > > | > | > Mary > | > | > > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- > | > | > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > | > | > To: <[email protected]> > | > | > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > | > | > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > | > | > (brothers) > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have > | > | > a bit on them. > | > | > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. > | > | > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > | > | > committed fornication with Mary > | > | > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined > | > | > 30s. and ordered to give > | > | > > security to keep the county from any charge by > | > | > means of his bastard child > | > | > > called Alexander." > | > | > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a > | > | > bit large for list. > | > | > > Dave > | > | > > > | > | > > ----- Original Message ----- > | > | > > From: <[email protected]> > | > | > > To: <[email protected]> > | > | > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > | > | > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > | > | > and James Sr. > | > | > > (brothers) > | > | > > > | > | > > > | > | > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > | > | > Leighton Fristoe were > | > | > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger > | > | > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > | > | > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the > | > | > Youngers moved to > | > | > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen > | > | > articles about the > | > | > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and > | > | > Cole had a black half > | > | > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > | > | > >> > | > | > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > | > | > Maybelle Shirley's dau > | > | > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle > | > | > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > | > | > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & > | > | > Myra had a son Ed, too, > | > | > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in > | > | > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > | > | > >> area (the same area as my > | > | > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > | > | > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > | > | > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > | > | > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > | > | > (don't ask me how she got > | > | > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for > | > | > Belle > | > | > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > | > | > were supposidly friends. > | > | > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising > | > | > when Belle shot Sam > | > | > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told > | > | > this years ago by > | > | > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > | > | > tall tale"!! Was very > | > | > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > | > | > Starr in a magazine (IE: > | > | > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > | > | > don't remember which) > | > | > >> which related the incident as well as other > | > | > things. > | > | > >> > | > | > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony > | > | > across the Indian > | > | > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > | > | > speak a word of English. > | > | > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee > | > | > Nation, OK & are > | > | > >> buried at Eufalia. > | > | > >> > | > | > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I > | > | > married their > | > | > >> son. > | > | > >> > | > | > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds > | > | > of things!!! > | > | > >> > | > | > >> Mary Yoder > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> ----- Original Message ----- > | > | > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > | > | > >> To: <[email protected]> > | > | > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > | > | > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > | > | > Thomas and James Sr. > | > | > >> (brothers) > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on > | > | > Sarah > | > | > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to > | > | > you > | > | > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > | > | > Henry > | > | > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles > | > | > must > | > | > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > | > | > Indiana. > | > | > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > | > | > most > | > | > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > | > | > Purcells > | > | > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > | > | > Sullivan. A > | > | > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > | > | > middle > | > | > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would > | > | > have > | > | > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day > | > | > though > | > | > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He > | > | > was an > | > | > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, > | > | > >>> considered a traditor because he > | > | > helped the > | > | > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be > | > | > of > | > | > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > | > | > >>> > | > | > >>> > | > | > >>> > | > | > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > | > | > >>> > | > | > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > | > | > Sullivan > | > | > >>>> Purcell. > | > | > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are > | > | > in > | > | > >>>> there twice once as > | > | > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > | > | > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, > | > | > 1796. > | > | > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > | > | > Twain? > | > | > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > | > | > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > | > | > >>>> Dave > | > | > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > | > | > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > | > | > <[email protected]> > | > | > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > | > | > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > | > | > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > | > | > and > | > | > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > | > | > >>>> > | > | > >>>> > | > | > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, > | > | > etc.) > | > | > >>>> were > | > | > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in > | > | > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. > | > | > These > | > | > >>>> sons > | > | > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > | > | > Another > | > | > >>>> son, > | > | > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), > | > | > >>>> County > | > | > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just > | > | > >>>> across > | > | > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA > | > | > around > | > | > >>>> > 1750. > | > | > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > | > | > County > | > | > >>>> with > | > | > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > | > | > children > | > | > >>>> Isaac > | > | > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > | > | > Bullitt > | > | > >>>> County; > | > | > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt > | > | > >>>> County; > | > | > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah > | > | > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > | > | > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other > | > | > >>>> chidren of > | > | > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who > | > | > >>>> married > | > | > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL > | > | > who > | > | > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > | > | > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > | > | > (Biggerstaff?) and > | > | > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived > | > | > in > | > | > >>>> Nelson > | > | > >>>> > County. > | > | > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > | > | > interest > | > | > >>>> in > | > | > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > | > | > >>>> Counties.--Judith > | > | > >>>> > Purcell > | > | > >>>> > > | > | > >>>> > > | > | > >>>> > > | > | > __________________________________________________ > | > | > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > | > | > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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