Thanks. Would appreciate information. Margaret Pat Carter <[email protected]> wrote: I have information on WELLER.........from Nelson Co forward ending in CA. Haven't done anything recent, but could locate info on that name. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Stutzenberger" To: Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:23 AM Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Md and Pa to Kentucky > I have followed with interest the discussions of those who migrated from Maryland and Pennsylvania to Kentucky. Surnames I am researching of those who migrated from there include: WELLER, MATHIS, ELDER, MCATEE, BIGGS, OSBORNE, ROBY, BOGARD. Most ended up in the Nelson, Bullitt, and Marion County areas. Is anyone researching any on these? I will be happy to share information. > Margaret Stutzenberger > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I"m sorry, but I don't have any information on the ADAMS family. You may hear from others on the list regarding this request. Thanks for your response. Margaret aj4ever <[email protected]> wrote: Hello, my name is Sylvia Heiney and I am researching the Adams family, my maiden name. I don't know where some of them came from, other than North Carolina, it might have been PA or KY. But, they went to Nelson, Washington, Marion, Hardin, and Jefferson. Would you happen to have anything on Adams ? My line is John Adams, Sr., Peter B. F. Adams (first to come to Kentucky), Elisha Smith Adams, John Grundy Adams, Elisha Harrison Adams, Joseph Henderson Adams (my father), and me Sylvia K. Adams (Heiney), born in Tulsa, Oklahoma. My father was born in Loretto, Marion Co., KY. Thanks for your time, Sylvia Heiney, [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Stutzenberger" To: Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 6:23 AM Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Md and Pa to Kentucky > I have followed with interest the discussions of those who migrated from Maryland and Pennsylvania to Kentucky. Surnames I am researching of those who migrated from there include: WELLER, MATHIS, ELDER, MCATEE, BIGGS, OSBORNE, ROBY, BOGARD. Most ended up in the Nelson, Bullitt, and Marion County areas. Is anyone researching any on these? I will be happy to share information. > Margaret Stutzenberger > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

Sorry the data isn't alpha for easy referenced!! Typed it as I found it. Don't know if later publications of Nelson Co Pioneer has more nor not. I think I have all to Fall of 1982 (am not sure). Don't know if that is all of them or not. As I have said- haven't been into them for years. All are chocked full of early data!!! Will see what I can find in them. Mary

Thank you for such a very kind offer!!! Can you find anything on Thomas Merryfield/Merrifield/ possibly Minnifield? He was discharged at Ft Pitt--was in Ky 1781-ish; was in Nelson Co, Ky 1785 tithables. Flips between Nelson & Jefferson. In 1791 tithes he is in the area that became Washington Co, Ky in 1792. Alexander Merryfield/Merrifield- b 1765; listed in the 1785 tithes of Nelson Co; m Rachael Boone, d/o Samuel Jr 1787 Jefferson Co, Ky; 1788 tithes Nelson Co -- lose him until 1810 when he appears in Hardin Co Census & is there until 1843 when LaRue Co formed. His probate 1849 LaRue Co. Descendants in the area had land that I can't find where they got it!!! Have every Merrifield record from Hardin Co. & am working on Nelson. Merrifield/sic has land & I can't find in records of Nelson/Hardin Cos where they got it!!! ANY help would be most highly appreciated!!! Mary Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boese" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Md and Pa to Kentucky >I have only 4 of a set of many many book published by Michael L > Cook and Bettie Cummings Cook on early KY records. The books I have are: > > Virginia Supreme Court Dist. of KY Order Books 1783-1792 > > Ky Court of Appeals Deed Books Vol 1 1796-1803 > > KY Court of Appeals Deed books Vol II 1803-1811 > > Fincastle and KY Counties VA-KY Vol 1 1773-1776 > > I will do lookups from these books but I have to have a full > name. I will not do send me everything you have on such and such a name. > > > >

Will type this in- be aware that is the from Nelson Co Pioneer & transcribed/ typed by the George Hardings-I have not personally seen this material: 1779: 11/13 - Charles Min THURSTON, asee of John LEWIS (of Spotsylvania), asee of William MCCRACKIN, asnee of Samuel PICKINS, 400 ac. Mill Creek. - John COWAN, 400 ac on the Ohio. - John LEWIS, assnee of Benjamin LINN, 400 ac north side of Green River in the forks of a creek about 40 miles from Harrodsburg, about 12 miles from Pottingers cabin on the Rolling Fork and 35 miles south of Bullits salt lick. 11/11 - John GRAYSON, 400 ac. waters of Cane Run, adj. James WILLEY. - Daniel BROWN 400 ac Cartwrights Creek about 4 or 5 miles from the mouth. 11/15 - Harmon CONSLLEA - 400 ac east Fork of Salt River. 11/25 - George CALDWELL, assee of Andrew JOHNSON, 400 ac, branch of Cartwrights Creek. 11/26 - Jacob MYERS, asee of David GRIFFIN, 400 ac. near the dividing ridge between the waters of the Rolling Fork and Green River at a buffalo road about 35 miles from Harrodsburg. 12/7 - Robert WILSON, asee of Mary HENDRICKS, 400 ac Town Fork of Salt River 20 miles above Bullits Salt Lick, adj. Daniel WHELAN. - Jonathan KETHAM, 400 ac. Town Fork about 2 miles below Floyds Fork. 1780 2/11 - Jacob MYERS, asee of David GRIFFITH, 25 ac 6 miles below the Yellow Bank. - Theoderick BLAND, 400 ac on the Ohio 7 or 8 miles below the Falls. 2/19 - William GRAYSON 400 ac Beech Fork near the Indian licks. - Jonathan INGRAM 400 ac Rolling Fork near the Indian Lick. - David JOHNSTON, 400 ac on Panther Creek. - Jacob MYERS, assee of James HAYS, heir of John HAYS, 400 ac North side of Green River. - Thomas DENTON, SR 400 ac 3 or 4 miles from the mouth of Salt River. - William HAGGIN 400 ac west side of Panther Creek adj Daniel HAGGAN. - Thomas CARLAN 400 ac south side of the middle fork of Salt River 10 miles from Bullitt Lick, including John KENNADY'S name on a beech tree on a buffalo Road and dated July, 1775. - William Bailey SMITH, 400 ac north side of Green River on Panther Creek. - Henry SKAGGS 400 ac north side of Green River 7 or 8 miles above Elk LIck. - Gower SEVERNS, 400 ac south side of Beech Fork of Salt River. - Heirs of Eli GERRARD desc. 400 ac south side of Rolling Fork of Salt River 5 miles above the mouth of Pottingers Creek. - James FINN 400 ac Wilson Creek a branch of Salt River adj. James SAMUELS. - Robert CALDWELL assee of Barney STAGNER HEIRS, 400 ac on Cartwrights Creek a branch of Beech Fork adj. James ROBERTSON. 1/24 - William WHITE, heir of Charles WHITE, desc 400 ac at the mouth of south fork of Hardins Creek adj BUNTONS and PENIX. 2/25 - Thomas SWEARINGEN, assee of John ROPES, 100 ac on a Warrant for military service by REPOUIS in the late War between Great Britain and France 40 miles below the mouth of Salt River to include a lead mine. - Thomas DENTON assee of Elizabeth WHITE 400 ac north side of Green River waters of Sinking Creek to include a cabin built by DENTON and William STEWART. 2/26 - Rouben GUTHRIE asee of Thomas HARTGREN 400 ac south side of Salt River. 2/28 - John MAY, assee of Jacob MAY 50 ac on the Ohio. - Jacob MYERS assee of Henry TILLEN, 400 ac south side of Salt River. - John MOORE, 400 ac Rolling Fork of Salt River about 4 miles below the lick claimed by Frances WILSON. - William PENTON assee of Ann HARROD and James HARROD 400 ac on the Ohio about 50 miles below the Falls. - Frances WILSON, heir to Hugh WILSON, 400 ac on the Rolling Fork, including part of a large lick called the Cedar Lick. - Samuel POTTINGER 400 ac Pottingers Creek beg 1/4 miles below his covered cabin. - Isaac BOWMAN 400 ac Delaware Creek of Green River. - Heirs of Samuel CARTWRIGHT 400 ac Cartwright Creek - adj Israil MCCRACKIN. - Jacob SODANIKE 400 ac dividing ridge between Shannons Run and Sinking Creek. 3/1 - James WALLACE 400 ac Hardins Creek adj. James PENIX. 3/2 - James HOLLIDAY 400 ac west fork of Sinking Creek between said Creek and Rolling Fork of Salt River. 3/3 - Jacob MYERS, assne of Joseph CARTWRIGHT 400 ac both sides of Pleasant Run of Beech Fork. - Zachariah BARKEY, Charles SMITH, Christopher CLARK, assne of William BARLOW, 50 ac for military service located on the Ohio. - same, assne of Benjamin ISABEL, 50 ac mil. ser. war. - same, assgne of Leonard GARNETT 100 ac mil. ser. war. - same, assne of Leonard GARNETT 100 ac, mil. ser. war. - same, assne of Christopher BLACKBOURN, mil. ser. war. as Seargent, 100 ac. 3/13 - Evan SHELBY 500 ac on Hunters Trace about 1 mile from the head of Pleasant Run, "incl. an old improvement". - John MAY, 500 ac mil. war. of Alexander FINNEY, desc. as Quartermaster in Col. BIRDs REg, assne by William FINNICK, heir-at-law. - John SMITH asne of Nathaniel GIST 500 ac mil. war. as Captain in Col W. & Col. STEVENS regs, 6000 ac on Panther Creek. - Evan SHELBY 1000 ac mil. ser. war. as Major on Panther Creek, adj. David JOHNSON. - John SMITH asne of Nathaniel GIST mil. ser. war. as Lieutenant in a company of Rangers, also a warrant of Christopher GIST, desc. as Captain, 10 500 ac tracts on Panther Creek, adj Col. Evan SHELBY. - James HICKMAN, heir to Richard HICKMAN, mil. ser. war. as sub- altern in Col. Adam STEVENS reg, 2000 ac on the Ohio below Robert GIBERT. - John NASH, asgne of Abner NASH, 500 ac mil. war. on the Ohio adj. Zachariah BARLEY, Charles SMITH and Christopher CLARK, also asgne by William HUGHES as subaltern in Col. BYRDS reg. and as Adjudant in Col. WASHINGTONs reg. 4000 ac. 4/13 - John BRISCOE, asne of William BRANAUGH, 500 ac part of the 3000 ac for mil. ser. by BRANAUGH in last war, located on Simpsons Creek, incl. John STOVERS inprovement adj Cough OVERTON. - also 500 ac where Captain KINCHELOE lives on the waters of Coxs Creek, including cabin built by John DENTON & Company. - Isaac SHELBY, asgne of John FOX asgne of Charles TONKIES mil. war. for 500 ac waters of Green River on a creek heading opposite to the Indian Licks near YANCIES and PITMANS Stations. - John BRISCOE, asgne of William BRANAUGH 500 ac part of above 3000 ac mil war. on the waters of Simpson Creek about 30 miles from Harrodsburg to include STEWARDs cabin. 4/20 - Edward CARY asgne to Nathan GIBSON mil. war. for 50 ac, north side of Green River near Anthony THOMPSON as asgne of John LEE. - also same as asgne of William MILTON mil war. 50 ac north side of Green River near Anthony FORTERS entry. - also same 50 ac north side of Green River near the Buckhorn Lick. - David GRIFFITH asgne of James HENDRICKS 1000 ac north side of Green River near the Buckhorn Lick. - Cuthbert BULLIT devisee of Benj. THOMAS 1000 ac waters of Green River adj GRIFFITH. - David GRIFFITH asgne of James HENDRICKS mil warr 500 ac adj HENDRICKS earlier entry on waters of Green River. - James NASH mil. war. 200 ac on Cartwrights Creek 2 miles above Daniel BROWN. - John MAY, asgne of Gabriel THROCKMORTON 3000 ac. - also 5000 ac as asgne of Adam STEPHENS 1000 ac as asgne of David KENEDY for military service on the Ohio opposite the first island below Salt River. - Samuel FRY 2000 ac north branch of Panthers Creek adj JONATHAN 4 miles below HARDINS settlement. 4/25 - Adam SHEPHERS, 300 ac Clear Creek adj Isaac BRIER and David MITCHELL. 4/26 - George CALDWELL, asgne of Andrew JOHNSON 1000 ac preemption warrant adj. his settlement on Cartwrights Creek. - Thomas ARBUCKLE 400 ac preemption warrant, Rolling Fork of Salt River adj Solomon LAWRENCE, Henry BRUSTER and three miles from James CLOYD. - James SULLIVAN asgne of James Francis MOORE asgne of James MADISON, JR, asgne of Thomas ELLIOTT 1000 ac north side of the Rolling Fork 5 miles below Pottingers Creek. 4/27 - Gabriel MAY asgne of Samuel BENTLEY - 50 ac, asgne of Richard GRIFFIN - 50 ac; asgne of John (?) - 200 ac; asgne of James OWEN - 50 ac; asgne of John OSBOURNE - 50 ac; all mil. war., waters of Rolling Fork, adj WILSON of Fromans Creek. - Abner MAY asgne of Francis ROBERTS - 50 ac; of Ben CLEMENTS - 50 ac; asgne of Richard MARTIN - 50 ac; asgne of John PERRIN - 200 ac adj the above entry on the lower side. - Elijah KIRTLEY and Jeremiah KIRTLEY asgne of CARLY, asgne of Jonathan COWHERD mil. war. 250 ac east branch of Beech Fork. - Barney RILEY 50 ac south side of Salt River 2 miles above Cox's Station. - Andrew HYNES, asgne of Abraham HITE, asgne of Edward PURCELL, mil. war 25 ac on waters of Beech Fork incl a Mill seat. 4/28 - Abraham HITE asgne of Henry HANK, asgne of Peter HOFF, mil war 50 ac forks of Rolling Fork and Salt River. - John SOVERNS - asgne of Abraham HITE, adgne of Thomas BRANON, mil. war 100 ac 2 miles west of HYNES settlement and preemption in SOVERNs Valley. - also 100 ac about 2 miles west of HYNES preemption in SOVERNS Valley. - also 100 ac about 2 miles west of HYNES preemption in SEVERNs Valley/ - John EDMISTON asgne of Nicholas BRALSTON, mil war 100 ac east of Beech Fork incl improvement by John DENTON. - also 100 ac northwest of Sinking Creek of Green River on a large Buffalo Road. - James SPEED, asgne of Buta BUCKLY mil war 50 ac on Rolling Fork near the Cumberland Trace, about 3 or 4 miles from the knobs. - Cuthbert BULLITT 500 ac part of mil war of 2000 ac adj David GRIFFITH and Charles SIMMS. - William FLEMING 1000 ac branch of Panther Creek about 12 miles from the mouth. - William FOSTER 50 ac on Sinking Creek a branch of Green River. - David HALL withdraws 50 ac on waters of Green River and locates on the south side of Sinking Creek adj. FOSTER. 4/29 - William FLEMING asgne of Thos. LOWELL, mil. war. 200 ac waters of Panther Creek 4 miles south of his former entry. - also 500 ac east side of Panther Creek 12 miles from the mouth. - William FLEMING wthdrws 500 ac on Pitman Creek of Green River and locates adj his 500 ac east side of Panthers Creek. - Richard STEVENs 500 ac mouth of Glenns Creek. - Alexander SINCLEAR, asgne of Alexander MCLINCHAN 1000 ac waters of Green River 3 or 4 miles from the Buckhorn Lick, beginning at a spring marked by Thomas OWSLEY. - James NOURSE wthdrws 2000 ac on Limestone, also 750 ac on said creek and locates 1000 ac on waters of Salt River on the southeast buffalo road about 10 miles from the Elk Lick incl. William BOARDS improvement. - also 1000 ac on the east buffalo road from the Elk Lick. - John LEWIS wthdrws 1500 ac on Mill Creek and locates 1000 ac on Limestone, branch of the Ohio, below the little yellow banks. - also the remaining 500 ac on the waters of the Limestone. - John LEWIS wthdrws 100 ac entries on the Ohio at a place known as Bullittsburg and locates adj. the above entry. - Mathew GALE asgne & mil war 50 ac north side of the Beech Fork near Mill Creek and a Buffalo Road. - Ben MONDAY asgne of James RUSSELL mil war 50 ac adj the above entry. - David FLOYD mil war 50 ac near the Long Lick waters of Salt River. - Ambrose WALDEN asne & mil war adj the two entries above. 1780 4/29 - George MASON withdrws entry of 12/22/79 on the waters of Licking and locates 8400 ac east side of Panther Creek aobut 4 miles from the mouth of the west Fork. - also 8300 ac adj the above entry on Panthers Creek. - also 8200 ac on the west side of Panther Creek adj John SMITH. - also 8100 ac adj the above on Panther Creek. - also 4500 ac adj last entry. - also 4200 ac adj above. - also 4100 ac adj above. - also 4000 ac adj above. - also 8000 ac on the Ohio about 20 miles above the mouth of Green River at a poplar marked RH 1775. - also 700 ac adj the obove entry of 4000 ac. - also 2000 ac adj the entry 20 miles above the mouth of Green River. - William HILLIARD mil war 50 ac head of Severn Creek. - William STANDLYS heirs, mil war 200 ac waters of the Rolling Fork 3 miles below a large clay lick. - Robert SINGLETON asgne & mil war 50 ac 9 miles above the mouth of the Salt River. - Benjamin OLIVER, mil war 50 ac 6 miles from the mouth of Salt River. - Christopher SINGLETON, asgne & mil war 800 ac on a large Creek emptying into the Rolling Fork near a large Clay lick. - John McKENDRICK mil war 200 ac opposite William STANDLY. - Eustace HOWARD mil war 50 ac south side of Salt River about 8 miles from the mouth. - John CRUTCHFIELD asgne & mil war 50 ac forks of Chaplin Fork and Beech Fork. - Gabriel MADDISON asgne & mil war 1000 ac waters of Simpsons Creek, adj improvements of STEWARTs. - William STEWARD, asgne of John BRISCOE mil war 800 ac adj. Charles STEWARDs preemption on Mill Creek. - David JOHNSON 1000 ac preemption adj. his settlement. - Evan HINTON 1000 ac preemption adj his settlement on Fox River. - Charles Min THURSTON asgne of John LEWIS asgne of William MCCRACKEN, asgne of Samuel PICKINGS, 1000 ac preemption adj. his settlement.

On the Metro Louisville- Jefferson County Kentucky Webgen site. Roootsweb for Ky Jefferson Co. "County Court Minute Book Book A, Pages 14, 15 and 16. At a court held for Jefferson County 3 Dec 1781. In appearing to the court that the following persons are entitled by virtue of an Act of Assembly passed May last, to 400 acres of land each. Orders that the County Surveyor lay them off accordingly." There followings the names on pages 14, 15 and 16. This might help someone out there. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Md and Pa to Kentucky Hi, again. I agree with you in principle, although I've found it pretty hard to come up with Fincastle Co. (founded 1772) and Kentucky Co. (founded 1776) records. As a matter of fact, I have not even been able to find Jefferson Co. deeds that refer to rural land in what is now Nelson Co. The only thing published has been deeds to town lots in Louisville. Mr. and Mrs. Michael Lewis imply that there might have been a land record book that has not been found. That is surely true. Bob

Thanks so much, Virginia. Bob Moore

re: pg 11, Nelson Co. Pioneer, Summer 1977, Vol I, No. 1: Article entitled: The Early Claims for Land in Nelson County: "While some major grants had been made by the Virginia assembly and Bounty Land Warrants had been issued for service in the "French Wars", the enabling legislation for officially entering land claims in Kentucky was not finalized until 1779. In October, Commissioners to examine and adjudicate claims in Kentucky set up Court at St. Asaphs and subsequently at other locations, including Harrodsburg. Between that time and the 29th of April, next, when they returned to Virginia, 3000 claims were entered, some in Nelson County. Following this the County Surveyors set up land offices and continued to enter claims, except for the perios of intense Indian activity in 1782. This Virginia Land Law was complicated in inception and even more so in application. Its interpertation and determination of the first claimants occupied the Courts of Kentucky until 1830. When the United States Supreme Court upheld a Kentucky Statute of Limitations on further court actions. It is not intended to provide a complete account of the law's provisions but a brief summary of pertinent points were: 1. If a settler had made a planting of corn or lived in Kentucky one year prior to Jan 1, 1778, he was entitled to a settlement right of 400 ac at 10 shillings per 100 acres. 2. Having satisfied this condition he could also claim an additional claim of 1000 ac. as a preemption at the state price of $40 per 100 acres. 3. If a claimant had been in Kentucky prior to 1778 but could not satisfy the rights of a settler he was entitled to file a preemption claim based on building "a house or hut". 4. Settlers afte Jan 1, 1778 were entitled to enter r00 acres as a peremption at the state price. 5. Subsequent claims were to be by Treasury Warrant at 40 pounds per 100 acres. 6. Military claims had priority over all claims except those of a settlement right. Bounty Land allotments for military service varied from length of service and rank, ranging from the private with short term service of 50 acres or 100 acres for three years, to Generals who were entitled to 10000 to 17500 acres. Every claim had to be individually marked, entered in the record, surveyed and returned to the land office. 400 acres and under could be entered on credit but where funds were to be paid, they were to be deposited in Richmond and a land warrant issued before an entry could be made. In 1781, a special low priority claim was effective for three years allowing 400 acres "for the poor people of the land", at 20 shillijngs per acre. A transcript of thos claim entries within the jurisdiction of the Nelson County Court was provided and is in the custody of the Nelson County Clerk. The abstracts which follows is complete with the substitution of an indicated general location where the specific location would be overly space consuming."

Think about this, though. Do you know what the county seat of Kentucky Co. was? I have never heard anybody say. It would be rather difficult to find any records for that county if we don't know where the co. seat was. Louisville is an unlikely spot, since it was certainly not a big center in those days. Places such as Harrodsburg, Danville, Stanton and Lexington are more likely, but I'm inclined to doubt that they were actually kept or preserved in Ky. I might just mention this for those who don't know. Cox's Sta. in present Nelson Co. was the land office for that area that included Jefferson Co. The land office records were kept at Cox's Sta. and never went to Louisville. They are now somewhere in the court house in Bardstown, although I have never seen them. I believe they date back to 1779. Any helpful comments or additions by anybody out there?? Bob

Bob, Do you have access to the old copies of "Nelson Co. Pioneer"--published by Mr & Mrs George Harding?? I have some OLD one but not a complete set. In the first one that I have: Summer 1977- Vol 1, No.1-- the start of the 1785 tithables; The Early Claims for Land in Nelson Co; p 11 Nelson Co Processioners Book starting 11/3/1779 12-18 Queries" p 20 The Rizer House Project by David H. Hall. 19-21: (pg 20 & 19 backwards) 21 ends article abou the Rizer House Rest of page 21 is for new subscriptions & back issues. IF you do not have/access to--will send to you. Copies of the Pioneer should be in the Lib at Bardstown OR someone in the area should have them. I have mine with holes punched & put into a binder-type book. Haven't been into them for years!!! According to the Pioneer-- the land records are there 1779!!! I knew George Harding & his wife--met/visited with them when I was in Ky in 1978 (one of my earliest trips to Ky for research). Mary.

Hi, again. I agree with you in principle, although I've found it pretty hard to come up with Fincastle Co. (founded 1772) and Kentucky Co. (founded 1776) records. As a matter of fact, I have not even been able to find Jefferson Co. deeds that refer to rural land in what is now Nelson Co. The only thing published has been deeds to town lots in Louisville. Mr. and Mrs. Michael Lewis imply that there might have been a land record book that has not been found. That is surely true. Bob

On further reading I found this data in 'Ancestry's RedBook American State, County & Town Sources' Edited by Alice Eichholz, Ancestry 1992 When the French and Indian War (Seven Years War) ended, the Ohio River was designated as the boundary between settlers and native inhabitants. Kentucky was under the jurisdiction of Augusta County, Virginia. Fincastle County, Virginia, was organized in 1772 to include all of present-day Kentucky with Harrodsburg designated the county seat. Regards, Virginia

I have only 4 of a set of many many book published by Michael L Cook and Bettie Cummings Cook on early KY records. The books I have are: Virginia Supreme Court Dist. of KY Order Books 1783-1792 Ky Court of Appeals Deed Books Vol 1 1796-1803 KY Court of Appeals Deed books Vol II 1803-1811 Fincastle and KY Counties VA-KY Vol 1 1773-1776 I will do lookups from these books but I have to have a full name. I will not do send me everything you have on such and such a name.

'Ancestry's RedBook American State, County & Town Sources' Edited by Alice Eichholz, Ancestry 1992 This very handy source lists county formation for each state and the resources available and date in which they begin for the county; and the county seat address where available. For the state of Virginia; Kentucky County this is what it has to say: Kentucky County Date formed 1777 (abolished, 1780) Parent county Fincastle No records are listed for this county Fincastle County Date formed 1772 (abolished, 1777) Parent county Botetourt No records are listed for this county... however there is a note that states ' Records transferred to Montgomery County.' And under Montgomery County there is a note that states ' Includes records of Augusta (1750-72) and Fincastle (1772-76) I hope this helps someone, Virginia

Not to be redundant, but after going over many Howard family research records, it appears Samuel Howard born about 1754 in PA., was the son of Joseph Howard and Rebecca Lytle; Samuel was recorded as married to a woman named Anne, with 2 known children, Blackstone, born abt 1790 and Rebecca born abt 1791. If Samuel was born in 1754 he would then be about 36 yrs.old. Now, what I have, it is documented " Marriage Index Nelson County 1726-1850 ", Samuel Howard married Mary McCarty, 4 Sept. 1787; their known children(as I have them) were: Hannah,Joseph, Sarah and Isaac. The only documented date I have is Sarah's birthdate;15 April 1795, she married Thomas O'Neal,I am not saying what I have is correct, but Mary McCarty's father was Isaac McCarty and her mother was Hannah McVay, if Samuel's father "was" Joseph, we have a naming pattern. I don't know if there were other siblings, I am sure there were more .So, can someone on the LIST document the marriage of Samuel to Anne, or are we discussing two different Samuels, but from what I have read in Bob Moore's book, I think the latter Samuel and Mary McCarty fit into the Howards of Kentucky. Am I wrong? Lois

May I jump into the Howard Family Conversations? My Husbands Howard Family were first found in McLean County,KY IN 1850, We can not definitely document them before that time. his Great Grandfather was William Griffin/Griffith Howard, I find him with his mother Sarah and his sister Rumsey TS that year. I have minutes of the New Hope Baptist Church in Lawrence county,AR ( Where these Howards migrated to) and there are references to another William G. Howard,and a Joseph Howard,and Josephs wife Rebecca. Many of the names I read in your post are also in my husbands line. especially Gordon. If any of this sounds familiar,Please email. Barbara in Wichita

In Jeffersonville, In, there was a prison for many years. It was very close to the Ohio River and right off I 65. New Albany is next door to Jeffersonville. The building still stands and there is recent activity to restore? it into something useful. It would be in Clark County and New Albany is in Floyd Co. Also remember, if you have couples who go over the river to marry it will most likely be New Albany, Floyd Co. In. Many people did married there, including couples from Hardin and even further. The wait time is short. The Floyd Co Library has been most helpful over the phone. I will check and see if they also have e-mail service. It might be on the County web site. Dottie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Jefferson County Sherrie, Thanks for your posting. The prison I am looking is at Jeffersontown, IN (I think). As I stated--John Ermine Lavey (m at New Albany); lived at Jeffersontown(?), IN-- his son-in-law George (Lemmon?) was a guard at the prison. Know it is across the river & above Louisville (ne of Louisville-- went by it on my way to meet 65 North to Indianapolis). Had been to the riverboat casino near Vevay, IN & went straight across to reach 65 North. Quickest way to Indianapolis & on to 74 West (and home). Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherrie Childers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Jefferson County > There is a prison at LaGrange, KY. Since it is a suburb of Louisville > some people consider it the Louisville area. > > Also years ago, there was a debtors prison in Shively, KY. I always heard > of it as the Alms House. Later, it became a hospital for persons who had > physical problems with no family and for those who families didn't want > them. The hospital was closed and sold. It eventually became Southland > Terrace Shopping Center. > > I don't know if either of these prisons but thought I would send the > information. > > [email protected] wrote: > >

Bob Moore, Although Kentucky did not become a state until 1792, for all intents and purposes, Kentucky county was a state in formation when it became a separate county of Virginia in 1777. The records for the area were kept in the Kentucky counties, just as the records for Washington County, Va and Montgomery County were kept in their respective county records. For research purposes it is best to know where the records are maintained. The intent of my post concerning migration from Va was to remind researchers that they should consider VA. as an alternative places to search for their ancestors who went to Ky. Thanks for the information! G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

BOONE, BETSY OBIT LARUE COUNTY HERALD 11/4/1886 Thursday - Betsy Boone of near Athertonville, died on the 20th of old age. She was born on Hardin's Creek, which is now in Marion Co., in 1792. Her father was J. W. Howard who was one of the first settlers of Ky. She was born shortly after her parents arrived from Maryland. In 1815 she married John Boone, a relative of pioneer Daniel Boone, who died 10 or 12 years ago. She was 94 years old. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry L. Clark" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Wlliam Howard/Ann Clarke > > > Just caught an error: > > I said: > > And if I have date of birth correctly of William Howard born abt 1863 who > died nov 1860 who married Ann Clarke is also related closely to John > Baptist howard and James Howard. > > I meant to say date of birth of William Howard about 1763, not 1863 > >

Mr. Hearl, if you will check, I think you'll find that Kentucky was a part of Virginia until 1792, not 1777. Bob Moore