Does anyone have the address of the Nelson County Gen. Soc.? --- [email protected] wrote: __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

To Jerry Clark, Did you ever find your file on the Howards of Pa.? You sent it to me quite some time ago, and I can send it to you already open. All I need is your e-mail address. Vickie

No I never did find it. It's on my old Computer, but I have over 3,000 letters to go through to find it. I would like to have it just to avoid looking at the Wrong Howards. My E-mail address is [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Vickie A. Gorby [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Howards of Pa. To Jerry Clark, Did you ever find your file on the Howards of Pa.? You sent it to me quite some time ago, and I can send it to you already open. All I need is your e-mail address. Vickie

Every one should go to Google... They have many descriptions of a stationary Engineer, most of them very similar... Dick Carter [email protected]

I have a picture of Bethel College if anyone is interested. Cheers, Laura

My mother attended Bethel College. I would love to have a copy. [email protected] wrote: Sherrie Kahle Childers 8408 Fox Ridge Ct. Louisville, KY 40272 [email protected] (502) 935-9439 (502) 500-5902

Sure, and don't forget Aeronautical, Marine, Electronic, Electrical, Computer, "Domestic"..... Hal (^y^) smile!!!

Roger, When I was a lad, the only engineers I knew about were the ones who ran the steam engines on the railroad. Now, come to think about it, they were always on the "move", never staying in one place very long. The engineers who took care of, "ran" steam boilers in industry and large buildings were more "stationary", so that is the difference between the engineers. The term "engineer" today has taken on a different meaning, today engineers solve all kinds of problems in design and operation, testing and other phases of industry. I knew one who ran a 30 day, round the clock, test on a large steam valve and he forgot to intall one stress tab making all the other findings useless! If he had been a railroad engineer, he would probably have wrecked the train! G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

One more thought. Designers of buildings, bridges, etc are referred to as Civil Engineers. Don't know why. Roger ---- [email protected] wrote: > Can anyone tell me what exactly what an Engineer, Stationary is? Is it > connected with the railroad or is it a designer of stationary objects like > buildings, bridges, etc. > Thanks, > [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) (ed) >

Back in the mid 1900's (say 1930 - 1960 or so) a Stationary Engineer was a person that watched over and took care of boilers, primarily in buildings, but I guess it could have been any boiler that wasn't on a piece of machinery the didn't move. I'm not sure when the term came about, but would suspect it meant close to the same thing when it was first used. I assume the meaning hasn't changed much in todays world; although I suspect that if it is still used, it was broadened to enclude folks that take care of the heating plant (and maybe the A/C) in a building. Make Sense? Roger ---- [email protected] wrote: > Can anyone tell me what exactly what an Engineer, Stationary is? Is it > connected with the railroad or is it a designer of stationary objects like > buildings, bridges, etc. > Thanks, > [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) (ed) >

Would you believe that I had the "Black Measles" back in the 50's with all of the symptoms described. Thanks to modern American medicine, I survived. "Robertson, Lori L." <Lo[email protected]> wrote:I found this bit of info. There was an epidemic 1861-1862. Bethel College (Marker Number: 1269) County: Christian Location: Site of college, 15th Street, Hopkinsville, US 41, 68 Description: Organized by the Bethel Baptist Association and opened in 1854 as Bethel Female High School. Used by CSA as hospital during Black Measles epidemic, 1861-1862. Bethel Women's Jr. College, 1917. Closed 1942-1945; rooms rented to Camp Campbell Army officers. Became co-educational in 1951; name changed to Bethel College. Closed, 1964. Buildings razed, 1966. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of SilverWolf Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 5:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] black measles black measles, a rare, severe, often fatal, form of measles in which hemorrhage into the skin lesions and mucous membranes is associated with a sudden rise in temperature, convulsions, delirium, stupor, coma, and marked respiratory distress. Called also hemorrhagic measles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robertson, Lori L." To: Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:05 AM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott > Does anyone know about an outbreak of Black measles. I think this is what > she died from. ----------------------------------------------------- Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail transmission may contain confidential or legally privileged information that is intended only for the individual or entity named in the e-mail address. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance upon the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please reply to the sender, so that we can arrange for proper delivery, and then please delete the message from your inbox. Thank you. Deb Koplen [email protected] http://home.swbell.net/koplend/index.htm "Right Smak Dab between Dallas and Fort Worth"

I found this bit of info. There was an epidemic 1861-1862. Bethel College (Marker Number: 1269) County: Christian Location: Site of college, 15th Street, Hopkinsville, US 41, 68 Description: Organized by the Bethel Baptist Association and opened in 1854 as Bethel Female High School. Used by CSA as hospital during Black Measles epidemic, 1861-1862. Bethel Women's Jr. College, 1917. Closed 1942-1945; rooms rented to Camp Campbell Army officers. Became co-educational in 1951; name changed to Bethel College. Closed, 1964. Buildings razed, 1966. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of SilverWolf Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 5:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] black measles black measles, a rare, severe, often fatal, form of measles in which hemorrhage into the skin lesions and mucous membranes is associated with a sudden rise in temperature, convulsions, delirium, stupor, coma, and marked respiratory distress. Called also hemorrhagic measles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robertson, Lori L." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:05 AM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott > Does anyone know about an outbreak of Black measles. I think this is what > she died from. ----------------------------------------------------- Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail transmission may contain confidential or legally privileged information that is intended only for the individual or entity named in the e-mail address. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance upon the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please reply to the sender, so that we can arrange for proper delivery, and then please delete the message from your inbox. Thank you.

Thanks Mary, This is likely to help both of our Howard Lines. > Jerry, > > I have been stomping around throught the 1850 Cen of LaRue Co today- > Check the transcription I have that was done by Charlie Metcalf. Only > up to hh 169 of over 800!!! He didn't put there born so I am!! > > Will have to find what I can find additional to the Howrds/Clarks in > LaRue. Also will check Hardin as LaRue was formed from it in 1843. > > Hang in there--I'll get it!!! > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry L. Clark" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:21 AM > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott > > > > Mary, > > > > Mary > > > > I recognize some of these people. Can you identify the ones I don't know. > > > > I can't seem to place all these Howard's and Cecil or Cissell's, and don't > > recognize these Clark's. > > > > > > I think understanding this may lead us back to the Thomas Howard who > > married > > Ann Gough. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:40 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott > > > > Jerry, > > > > 1860 Cen LaRue Co, Ky: > > #703 John Bray 30 m farmer Ky > > Elizabeth 33 f Ky > > U.T. or U. I. 12 m Ky > > C.M. or C.W. 7 m Ky > > M.A. 5 f Ky > > M.A. 4 f Ky > > M. J. 3 f Ky > > Willard 2 m Ky > > Milbred 1 m Ky > > > > John Bray married Elizabeth Knott. He was the son of Henry Bray And Jane > > Masterson > > > > 707 Philip Bray 49 m farmer Ky > > Sarah 43 f Ky > > George W. 21 m. Ky > > A.J. 18 m ky > > W.? H. 16 M Ky > > Mary E. 12 f Ky > > J. P. 8 m Ky > > A.A. 6 f Ky > > > > This is Phillip Bray who married Sarah White, he was a Brother to Henry > > Bray > > who married Jane Masterson, and was a son of William Bray and Ann > > Phillips. > > > > 709 William Clark 51 m farmer Ky > > Eliza 20 f Ky > > John 3 m Ky > > Samuel 1 m Ky > > > > 711 Thomas Clark 43 m farmer Ky > > Nancy 40 f Ky > > Louisa 18 f Ky > > Mary A. 16 f Ky > > Lloyd 14 m Ky > > R. J. 12 f Ky > > L. W. 10 m Ky > > John 8 m Ky > > L. E. 6 f Ky > > R.B. 2 f Ky > > > > 741 Alex Howard 36 m farmer Ky > > Ellen 39 f Ky > > Jo 8 m Ky > > James 7 m Ky > > M. J 5 f Ky > > Wm 3 M Ky > > > > This is Patrick Alexander Howard son of Joseph E. Howard and Mariah > > Elizabeth Pike. He married Eleanor "Ellen" Nevitt > > > > 834 George W. Bray 37 m farmer Ky > > Eliza J. 32 f Ky > > Sarah A. 11 f Ky > > John C. 10 m Ky > > M.J. 7 f Ky > > I.J I.T. or I.F. 6 m Ky > > William M. 4 m Ky > > S. F. 1 f Ky > > > > > > This is George Washington Bray who married Eliza Jane Nevitt. He was a son > > of Henry Bray and Jane Masterson. > > > > 835 Austin Howard 38 m farmer Ky > > Elizabeth Franes 26 f Ky > > Francis M. 5 m Ky > > Thomas W. 3 m Ky > > M.M. Martin 20 f dom Ky > > Irvin Stillwell 18 m laborer Ky > > Stennatt Stillwell 15 m laborer Ky > > > > This is Augustine "Austin" HOWARD also a son of Joseph E. Howard and > > Mariah > > Elizabeth Pike. He married Elizabeth Francis Boone daughter of John Boone > > and Catherine Greenwell > > > > 898 Robert Cecil 63 m farmer Ky > > Julia Ann 60 f Ky > > Elizabeth 22 f Ky > > Amanda Ann 20 f Ky > > Charles 18 m Ky > > Ephronia? 15 f Ky > > Joseph Bolling 8 m Ky > > > > 982 Thomas P. Howard 33 m merchant Ky > > Judith H. 24 f Ky > > H.O. 5 m Ky > > Emma 2 f Ky > > Ann 6/12 f Ky > > J. T. Botts 16 m store clerk Ky > > S. A. Churchill 50 f Ky > > Catherine Price 19 f domestic Ky > > > > Mary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jerry L. Clark" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:03 AM > > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott > > > > > >> Lori, > >> > >> The William Bray born 1772 who married Ann Phillips on 2 Feb 1792 in > >> Nelson > >> County, KY had children until 1811, but I have no John Bray born 1827. > >> William Bray Born 1872 may have been his grandfather but not likely > >> father. > >> > >> Go to this Web Site: you can see what data I have and see William Bray's > >> will. > >> > >> > >> http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejerry876/williambrayphillips.htm > >> > >> I found the John Bray you mention he was a son of Henry Bray and Jane > >> Masterson > >> > >> http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejerry876/hbraymasterson.htm > >> > >> So William Bray was his grabdfather not his father. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Robertson, Lori L. [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:06 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott > >> > >> I do not know the names of Elizabeth's parents. Father of John Bray is > >> William Bray b 1772. > >> > >> Does anyone know about an outbreak of Black measles. I think this is > >> what > >> she died from. > >> > >> Lori > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Jerry L. Clark > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:07 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott > >> > >> > >> Lori, > >> > >> > >> Who is the father of this John Bray? > >> > >> Can you also tell me who parents were of this Elizabeth Knott? > >> > >> Do you know when they were married? > >> > >> > >> I'm a Bray researcher, I think I have talked to you before. > >> > >> I decend from Abraham Bray and Eleanor "Nelly" Baptist Howard. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Robertson, Lori L. [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 5:32 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott > >> > >> Could someone do a look up for me or see if they have this info? I > >> wanted > >> to know if anyone had information on Elizabeth Knott's cause and date of > >> her > >> death? > >> > >> She was married to John Bray who was born 1827 and livedin LaRue County. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Lori > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------- > >> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail transmission > >> may contain confidential or legally privileged > >> information that is intended only for the individual > >> or entity named in the e-mail address. If you are not > >> the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that > >> any disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance > >> upon the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. > >> > >> If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, > >> please reply to the sender, so that we can arrange > >> for proper delivery, and then please delete the message > >> from your inbox. Thank you. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks, Joan. Bob Moore

Can anyone tell me what exactly what an Engineer, Stationary is? Is it connected with the railroad or is it a designer of stationary objects like buildings, bridges, etc. Thanks, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) (ed)

black measles, a rare, severe, often fatal, form of measles in which hemorrhage into the skin lesions and mucous membranes is associated with a sudden rise in temperature, convulsions, delirium, stupor, coma, and marked respiratory distress. Called also hemorrhagic measles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robertson, Lori L." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:05 AM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott > Does anyone know about an outbreak of Black measles. I think this is what > she died from.

Jerry, I have been stomping around throught the 1850 Cen of LaRue Co today- Check the transcription I have that was done by Charlie Metcalf. Only up to hh 169 of over 800!!! He didn't put there born so I am!! Will have to find what I can find additional to the Howrds/Clarks in LaRue. Also will check Hardin as LaRue was formed from it in 1843. Hang in there--I'll get it!!! Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry L. Clark" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:21 AM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott > Mary, > > Mary > > I recognize some of these people. Can you identify the ones I don't know. > > I can't seem to place all these Howard's and Cecil or Cissell's, and don't > recognize these Clark's. > > > I think understanding this may lead us back to the Thomas Howard who > married > Ann Gough. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:40 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott > > Jerry, > > 1860 Cen LaRue Co, Ky: > #703 John Bray 30 m farmer Ky > Elizabeth 33 f Ky > U.T. or U. I. 12 m Ky > C.M. or C.W. 7 m Ky > M.A. 5 f Ky > M.A. 4 f Ky > M. J. 3 f Ky > Willard 2 m Ky > Milbred 1 m Ky > > John Bray married Elizabeth Knott. He was the son of Henry Bray And Jane > Masterson > > 707 Philip Bray 49 m farmer Ky > Sarah 43 f Ky > George W. 21 m. Ky > A.J. 18 m ky > W.? H. 16 M Ky > Mary E. 12 f Ky > J. P. 8 m Ky > A.A. 6 f Ky > > This is Phillip Bray who married Sarah White, he was a Brother to Henry > Bray > who married Jane Masterson, and was a son of William Bray and Ann > Phillips. > > 709 William Clark 51 m farmer Ky > Eliza 20 f Ky > John 3 m Ky > Samuel 1 m Ky > > 711 Thomas Clark 43 m farmer Ky > Nancy 40 f Ky > Louisa 18 f Ky > Mary A. 16 f Ky > Lloyd 14 m Ky > R. J. 12 f Ky > L. W. 10 m Ky > John 8 m Ky > L. E. 6 f Ky > R.B. 2 f Ky > > 741 Alex Howard 36 m farmer Ky > Ellen 39 f Ky > Jo 8 m Ky > James 7 m Ky > M. J 5 f Ky > Wm 3 M Ky > > This is Patrick Alexander Howard son of Joseph E. Howard and Mariah > Elizabeth Pike. He married Eleanor "Ellen" Nevitt > > 834 George W. Bray 37 m farmer Ky > Eliza J. 32 f Ky > Sarah A. 11 f Ky > John C. 10 m Ky > M.J. 7 f Ky > I.J I.T. or I.F. 6 m Ky > William M. 4 m Ky > S. F. 1 f Ky > > > This is George Washington Bray who married Eliza Jane Nevitt. He was a son > of Henry Bray and Jane Masterson. > > 835 Austin Howard 38 m farmer Ky > Elizabeth Franes 26 f Ky > Francis M. 5 m Ky > Thomas W. 3 m Ky > M.M. Martin 20 f dom Ky > Irvin Stillwell 18 m laborer Ky > Stennatt Stillwell 15 m laborer Ky > > This is Augustine "Austin" HOWARD also a son of Joseph E. Howard and > Mariah > Elizabeth Pike. He married Elizabeth Francis Boone daughter of John Boone > and Catherine Greenwell > > 898 Robert Cecil 63 m farmer Ky > Julia Ann 60 f Ky > Elizabeth 22 f Ky > Amanda Ann 20 f Ky > Charles 18 m Ky > Ephronia? 15 f Ky > Joseph Bolling 8 m Ky > > 982 Thomas P. Howard 33 m merchant Ky > Judith H. 24 f Ky > H.O. 5 m Ky > Emma 2 f Ky > Ann 6/12 f Ky > J. T. Botts 16 m store clerk Ky > S. A. Churchill 50 f Ky > Catherine Price 19 f domestic Ky > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry L. Clark" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:03 AM > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott > > >> Lori, >> >> The William Bray born 1772 who married Ann Phillips on 2 Feb 1792 in >> Nelson >> County, KY had children until 1811, but I have no John Bray born 1827. >> William Bray Born 1872 may have been his grandfather but not likely >> father. >> >> Go to this Web Site: you can see what data I have and see William Bray's >> will. >> >> >> http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejerry876/williambrayphillips.htm >> >> I found the John Bray you mention he was a son of Henry Bray and Jane >> Masterson >> >> http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejerry876/hbraymasterson.htm >> >> So William Bray was his grabdfather not his father. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robertson, Lori L. [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:06 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott >> >> I do not know the names of Elizabeth's parents. Father of John Bray is >> William Bray b 1772. >> >> Does anyone know about an outbreak of Black measles. I think this is >> what >> she died from. >> >> Lori >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Jerry L. Clark >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:07 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott >> >> >> Lori, >> >> >> Who is the father of this John Bray? >> >> Can you also tell me who parents were of this Elizabeth Knott? >> >> Do you know when they were married? >> >> >> I'm a Bray researcher, I think I have talked to you before. >> >> I decend from Abraham Bray and Eleanor "Nelly" Baptist Howard. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robertson, Lori L. [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 5:32 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Elizabeth Knott >> >> Could someone do a look up for me or see if they have this info? I >> wanted >> to know if anyone had information on Elizabeth Knott's cause and date of >> her >> death? >> >> She was married to John Bray who was born 1827 and livedin LaRue County. >> >> Thanks, >> Lori >> >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail transmission >> may contain confidential or legally privileged >> information that is intended only for the individual >> or entity named in the e-mail address. If you are not >> the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that >> any disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance >> upon the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. >> >> If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, >> please reply to the sender, so that we can arrange >> for proper delivery, and then please delete the message >> from your inbox. Thank you. >> >> >> >> >> > > > >

Attention Sallie Cannon, Would you contact me personally at [email protected] I see that we have corresponded in 2003 and you said that you had some Burch photos that you would share with me, and I also have a number of Burch photos that I would be glad to share with you. Adding pictures to our family genealogy is so important to make the family more personable. This was your 2003 email----I do not have the pictures you mentioned. We were in the process of moving to KY in 2003 and I may not have gotten back with you. From: SACANNON Date: Sunday, October 19, 2003 18:36:00 To: Dottie Himes Subject: Re: Burch Family Pictures to be shared ..Dottie, I'm not sure if you would be interested in any of the Burch photos that I have, but just in case - Dorothy Brown Burch, wife of Samuel Lewis Burch; Valentine Burch, son of Dorothy & Samuel Lewis Burch; Teenage children of James Burch & Martha Sims, James being son of Dorothy Brown Burch & Samuel Lewis Burch. ..Dorothy & Samuel, I gave you their information in a previous email, with Samuel, being born in Prince Georges Co., MD, and then he married Dorothy in Nelson Co., KY. And in late 1935 they came to TX. Sallie Cannon - TX Thank you. Dottie Dottie Himes Lewisport, KY 42351 [email protected] I love my Family, Genealogy is Addictive but Fun: SURNAMES: Heim, Himes, Ahlers, Shroyer, Swadener /Burch, Clements, Hagan, Hutchins, Porter /Hayden, Mulligan,Young, and many more. -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 03/15/05 17:10:42 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Edward Burch -Ann Spinks Dottie, Where did you find your information on Ann Spinks, being Ann "Nancy" Mary Spinks? Only record I have seen was marriage record, showing her as Ann Spink. I knew she was referred to as Nancy, in the Will of Raphael Spinks, her brother. Have you done any research on the Howard family of Ann "Nancy" Spinks mother, Sarah Howard? Samuel Lewis BURCH, was born 5-9-1782, and died abt. 1850, and his wife, Dorothea BROWN was born 6-6-1787, and she died after 1860. Sallie Cannon - descendant of Samuel & Dorothea Brown Burch's son, James Burch & Martha Sims. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dottie Himes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Edward Burch -Ann Spinks > Attention Dave > > This is not much help but I also have the marriage of Edward Burch and Ann > Nancy" Mary Spinks as Oct. 15, 1779 > > The Burch Family is related to my Porter Family > > Descendants of Edward Burch, II, 10-24-2-1 > 1 Edward BURCH, II, 10-24-2-1 b: Abt. 1734 Charles Co. MD d: Abt. 1795 > Washington Co, KY > . +Ann (Nancy) Mary SPINKS b: Abt. 1734 m: 15 Oct 1779 Father: Francex > Xavier Spinks Mother: Sarah Howard > 2 Samuel Lewis BURCH, 10-24-2-1-1 b: Abt. 1799 Prince George Co, MD > .. +Dorothea BROWN b: Abt. 1799 m: 1812 Nelson Co, KY > > > > Dottie Himes > Lewisport, KY 42351 > [email protected] > > I love my Family, Genealogy is Addictive but Fun: SURNAMES: Heim, Himes, > Ahlers, Shroyer, Swadener /Burch, Clements, Hagan, Hutchins, Porter /Hayden, > Mulligan,Young, and many more. > -------Original Message------- > > From: [email protected] > Date: 03/14/05 21:35:21 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Mathew Cissell and Sarah Howard > > On FTM CD #4 Marriage Index Prince Georges, MD there are 2 similar entries. > Burch, Edward to Spinks, Ann Oct. 15, 1779 > Burch, Edward to Spink, Ann Nov. 30, 1779 > Were these 2 separate marriages are what? > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry L. Clark" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 11:36 AM > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Mathew Cissell and Sarah Howard > > > > > > > > > > According to my records a Sarah Howard daughter of William Howard and > > Sarah > > Smith, married a Frances Xavier Spinks and their daughter Ann "Nancy > > Spinks > > married Edward Burch. > > > > > > I don't have a William Spinks married to a Sarah Howard. > > > > > > As far as I know John Baptist Howard did not have a father named William > > Howard, but at this time we don't know who the father is of John Baptist > > Howard. > > > > > > > > Did her father have a brother named William, who married Sarah SPINKS. My > > Spinks family was in Washington Co., KY about 1799 or earlier, and Sarah > > Howard Spinks husband, William Spinks, was dead by this time, but, they > > also > > had a son named William Spinks, as well as a daughter Ann Spinks, who > > married Edward BURCH. > > > > Thanks, > > Sallie Cannon - TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jerry L. Clark" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:26 AM > > Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Mathew Cissell and Sarah Howard > > > > > >> > >> Dear List, > >> > >> Can anyone give me all the children of Mathew Cissell and Sarah Howard. > >> > >> Linda Reno needs it from the St. Mary's County, Maryland List, and I'm > >> not > >> sure I have all of their children. > >> > >> > >> Mathew Cissell married Sarah Howard on 11 March 1795 in Washington > >> County, > >> KY. Linda Reno had date of 17 Mar 1795 not sure who is more correct. Can > >> anyone locate the marriage record to verify? > >> > >> These are the children I have for them: > >> > >> Elizabeth Cissell born abt 4 Apr 1800 married on 19 Sept 1818 in > > Washington > >> County, KY to Robert Rhodes son of Cornelius Rhodes and Anastatia > > Mattingly > >> > >> Harriett E. Cissell born 22 April 1802 Washington County, KY died 12 Dec > >> 1876 Marion County, KY married 20 Nov 1824 Washington County, KY to > > William > >> Rhodes born 4 April 1800 Washington DC, he died 24 Jan 1880 in Marion > >> County, KY > >> > >> Charles Cissell born 1808 Washington County, KY married 28 Oct 1828 in > >> Hardin County, KY to Rebecca Shipley Geoghegan born 10 Dec 1809 Hardin > >> County, KY died 25 Feb 1883 Hardin County, KY she was the daughter of > >> Ambrose Denton Geoghegan Jr. and Elizabeth Shipley > >> > >> > >> Mathew J. Cissell born 1811 in Washington County, KY died 17 May 1865 in > >> Marion County, KY married Angeline M. Hagan born 20 May 1819, she died 18 > >> oct 1853, I have they married on 3 oct 1835, but I don't know where they > >> married. She was the daughter of John Hagen and Elizabeth Hayden > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >

Attention Sallie Cannon You wrote and asked where did I find your information on Ann Spinks, being Ann "Nancy" Mary Spinks? 1) First of all I have learned through the years that Nancy is a nickname for Ann. 2) The record below about Ann "Nancy" Mary Spinks came from a Burch book that showed her name as Ann Spinks/Mary Spinks without an explanation so I did add the name Mary but I am not 100% sure that is her correct full hame. This is from the book: 7-21-2001 Dottie Himes received a book she ordered from Ralph D. Smith 4238 S. Peninsula Dr. Daytona Beach, FL 32127 Dated May 2001. Page 1-12, States that Justinian Burch, Sr. was a Planter. and born 1681 in St. Mary's Co. MD *After 1695 it was changed to Charles Co. MD) and he died Feb. 1760 in Charles Co. MD M. by 1712 in Charles Co. MD to Susannah Davis dau. of Edward Davis Sr. and wife, Mary. Susannah was born in St. Mary's Co. MD died between Aug. 1743 and Sept 1750 in Charles Co., MD and had: 1. Oliver Burch, planter and Merchant 2. Justinian Burch Jr. , Planter 3. Edward Burch, planter b. by 1713 in Charles Co. MD, died June 1761 in Prince George Co. MD m. by 1734 in Charles Co. MD to Anastasia "Stacey" ? A. Edward Burch, b. by 1734 in Charles Co. MD, died ? ca. 1795 in Washington Co., KY m. Oct 15, 1779 in Prince Georges Co. MD to Ann Spink/Mary Spinks B. Justinian Burch, b and d unknown C. Ann Burch, b and d unknown D. Mary Burch, b. and d unknown E. Anastasia "Stacey" Burch, b and d unknown F. Winifred Burch, b and d unknown Anastasia by 1764, had remarried 2nd to Alexander McDonald and they had a son a. James Steward MacDanol (sic) baptized Aug. 1765 at King Georges Parish, Prince George's Co. MD 4. Susannah Burch 5. Monica Burch 6. Mary Burch 7. Elizabeth Burch 3) I have a few records on Howards, that I have acquired I will send here the records of the Howards that I have that are definitely related to my family. However, I have not connected Sarah Howard to my Howards. I actually have not done much research on the Howards. Descendants of William Digges Clagett, 212-4-9-2-2-1 1 [1] William Digges CLAGETT, 212-4-9-2-2-1 b: Abt. 1784 d: 1821 . +Mary Ann BOWIE, #2W b: 12 Nov 1802 Father: Thomas Bowie, Colonel Mother: Margaret Belt 2 Margaret CLAGETT b: Abt. 1822 *2nd Wife of [1] William Digges CLAGETT, 212-4-9-2-2-1: . +Sarah YOUNG, (14-4-8) b: 06 Mar 1800 m: 20 Apr 1819 At Nonesuch Manor, by Rev. Notley Young, Washington, D.C. d: 07 Apr 1825 MD, Prince George Co Father: Nicholas Young, I, 14-4, Esq. Mother: Sarah Fenwick, 14-5 2 Sarah Ellen C. CLAGETT, 212-4-9-2-2-1-1 b: Abt. 1820 .. +Joseph HOWARD, Dr. b: Abt. 1820 m: 19 Oct 1840 d: 19 May 1872 DOTTIE PORTER HIMES NOTE: MY MOTHER WAS MARY ELIZABETH (YOUNG) PORTER AND RELATED TO NICHOLAS YOUNG AND SARAH FENWICK ON MY MOTHERS SIDE. 4)Thank you for the dates for both Samuel Lewis Burch and Dorothea Burch NOTE: THE BURCH FAMILY IS RELATED TO MY FATHERS SIDE, THE PORTERS. Samuel Lewis BURCH, was born 5-9-1782, and died abt. 1850, and his wife, Dorothea BROWN was born 6-6-1787, and she died after 1860. This is what I have for them: Descendants of Samuel Lewis Burch, 10-24-2-1-1 1 Samuel Lewis BURCH, 10-24-2-1-1 b: 09 May 1782 Prince George Co, MD d: Abt 1850 . +Dorothea BROWN b: 06 Jun 1787 m: 1812 Nelson Co, KY d: Aft. 1860 2 Valentine BURCH, 10-24-2-1-1-1 b: 14 Feb 1813 Bardstown, KY near there d: 26 Nov 1892 .. +Helen Elmira CAUBLE b: Abt. 1813 m: Abt. 1842 2 James BURCH, 10-24-2-1-1-2 b: 11 Jul 1816 d: 21 Dec 1884 Moscow, Polk Co, TX Burial: Burch Catholic Cemetery, Moscow, Polk Co, TX .. +Martha SIMS b: 01 Aug 1820 GA m: 28 Sep 1841 Tyler Co, TX d: 24 May 1901 Moscow, Polk Co, TX Burial: May 1901 Burch Catholic Cemetery, Moscow, Polk Co, TX Father: John Sims Mother: Anna, #1W Hope some of this information helps. Dottie Porter Himes Dottie Himes Lewisport, KY 42351 [email protected] I love my Family, Genealogy is Addictive but Fun: SURNAMES: Heim, Himes, Ahlers, Shroyer, Swadener /Burch, Clements, Hagan, Hutchins, Porter /Hayden, Mulligan,Young, and many more. -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 03/15/05 17:10:42 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Edward Burch -Ann Spinks Dottie, Where did you find your information on Ann Spinks, being Ann "Nancy" Mary Spinks? Only record I have seen was marriage record, showing her as Ann Spink. I knew she was referred to as Nancy, in the Will of Raphael Spinks, her brother. Have you done any research on the Howard family of Ann "Nancy" Spinks mother, Sarah Howard? Samuel Lewis BURCH, was born 5-9-1782, and died abt. 1850, and his wife, Dorothea BROWN was born 6-6-1787, and she died after 1860. Sallie Cannon - descendant of Samuel & Dorothea Brown Burch's son, James Burch & Martha Sims. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dottie Himes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Edward Burch -Ann Spinks > Attention Dave > > This is not much help but I also have the marriage of Edward Burch and Ann > Nancy" Mary Spinks as Oct. 15, 1779 > > The Burch Family is related to my Porter Family > > Descendants of Edward Burch, II, 10-24-2-1 > 1 Edward BURCH, II, 10-24-2-1 b: Abt. 1734 Charles Co. MD d: Abt. 1795 > Washington Co, KY > . +Ann (Nancy) Mary SPINKS b: Abt. 1734 m: 15 Oct 1779 Father: Francex > Xavier Spinks Mother: Sarah Howard > 2 Samuel Lewis BURCH, 10-24-2-1-1 b: Abt. 1799 Prince George Co, MD > .. +Dorothea BROWN b: Abt. 1799 m: 1812 Nelson Co, KY > > > > Dottie Himes > Lewisport, KY 42351 > [email protected] > > I love my Family, Genealogy is Addictive but Fun: SURNAMES: Heim, Himes, > Ahlers, Shroyer, Swadener /Burch, Clements, Hagan, Hutchins, Porter /Hayden, > Mulligan,Young, and many more. > -------Original Message------- > > From: [email protected] > Date: 03/14/05 21:35:21 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Mathew Cissell and Sarah Howard > > On FTM CD #4 Marriage Index Prince Georges, MD there are 2 similar entries. > Burch, Edward to Spinks, Ann Oct. 15, 1779 > Burch, Edward to Spink, Ann Nov. 30, 1779 > Were these 2 separate marriages are what? > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry L. Clark" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 11:36 AM > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Mathew Cissell and Sarah Howard > > > > > > > > > > According to my records a Sarah Howard daughter of William Howard and > > Sarah > > Smith, married a Frances Xavier Spinks and their daughter Ann "Nancy > > Spinks > > married Edward Burch. > > > > > > I don't have a William Spinks married to a Sarah Howard. > > > > > > As far as I know John Baptist Howard did not have a father named William > > Howard, but at this time we don't know who the father is of John Baptist > > Howard. > > > > > > > > Did her father have a brother named William, who married Sarah SPINKS. My > > Spinks family was in Washington Co., KY about 1799 or earlier, and Sarah > > Howard Spinks husband, William Spinks, was dead by this time, but, they > > also > > had a son named William Spinks, as well as a daughter Ann Spinks, who > > married Edward BURCH. > > > > Thanks, > > Sallie Cannon - TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jerry L. Clark" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:26 AM > > Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Mathew Cissell and Sarah Howard > > > > > >> > >> Dear List, > >> > >> Can anyone give me all the children of Mathew Cissell and Sarah Howard. > >> > >> Linda Reno needs it from the St. Mary's County, Maryland List, and I'm > >> not > >> sure I have all of their children. > >> > >> > >> Mathew Cissell married Sarah Howard on 11 March 1795 in Washington > >> County, > >> KY. Linda Reno had date of 17 Mar 1795 not sure who is more correct. Can > >> anyone locate the marriage record to verify? > >> > >> These are the children I have for them: > >> > >> Elizabeth Cissell born abt 4 Apr 1800 married on 19 Sept 1818 in > > Washington > >> County, KY to Robert Rhodes son of Cornelius Rhodes and Anastatia > > Mattingly > >> > >> Harriett E. Cissell born 22 April 1802 Washington County, KY died 12 Dec > >> 1876 Marion County, KY married 20 Nov 1824 Washington County, KY to > > William > >> Rhodes born 4 April 1800 Washington DC, he died 24 Jan 1880 in Marion > >> County, KY > >> > >> Charles Cissell born 1808 Washington County, KY married 28 Oct 1828 in > >> Hardin County, KY to Rebecca Shipley Geoghegan born 10 Dec 1809 Hardin > >> County, KY died 25 Feb 1883 Hardin County, KY she was the daughter of > >> Ambrose Denton Geoghegan Jr. and Elizabeth Shipley > >> > >> > >> Mathew J. Cissell born 1811 in Washington County, KY died 17 May 1865 in > >> Marion County, KY married Angeline M. Hagan born 20 May 1819, she died 18 > >> oct 1853, I have they married on 3 oct 1835, but I don't know where they > >> married. She was the daughter of John Hagen and Elizabeth Hayden > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dottie, Where did you find your information on Ann Spinks, being Ann "Nancy" Mary Spinks? Only record I have seen was marriage record, showing her as Ann Spink. I knew she was referred to as Nancy, in the Will of Raphael Spinks, her brother. Have you done any research on the Howard family of Ann "Nancy" Spinks mother, Sarah Howard? Samuel Lewis BURCH, was born 5-9-1782, and died abt. 1850, and his wife, Dorothea BROWN was born 6-6-1787, and she died after 1860. Sallie Cannon - descendant of Samuel & Dorothea Brown Burch's son, James Burch & Martha Sims. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dottie Himes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Edward Burch -Ann Spinks > Attention Dave > > This is not much help but I also have the marriage of Edward Burch and Ann > Nancy" Mary Spinks as Oct. 15, 1779 > > The Burch Family is related to my Porter Family > > Descendants of Edward Burch, II, 10-24-2-1 > 1 Edward BURCH, II, 10-24-2-1 b: Abt. 1734 Charles Co. MD d: Abt. 1795 > Washington Co, KY > . +Ann (Nancy) Mary SPINKS b: Abt. 1734 m: 15 Oct 1779 Father: Francex > Xavier Spinks Mother: Sarah Howard > 2 Samuel Lewis BURCH, 10-24-2-1-1 b: Abt. 1799 Prince George Co, MD > .. +Dorothea BROWN b: Abt. 1799 m: 1812 Nelson Co, KY > > > > Dottie Himes > Lewisport, KY 42351 > [email protected] > > I love my Family, Genealogy is Addictive but Fun: SURNAMES: Heim, Himes, > Ahlers, Shroyer, Swadener /Burch, Clements, Hagan, Hutchins, Porter /Hayden, > Mulligan,Young, and many more. > -------Original Message------- > > From: [email protected] > Date: 03/14/05 21:35:21 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Mathew Cissell and Sarah Howard > > On FTM CD #4 Marriage Index Prince Georges, MD there are 2 similar entries. > Burch, Edward to Spinks, Ann Oct. 15, 1779 > Burch, Edward to Spink, Ann Nov. 30, 1779 > Were these 2 separate marriages are what? > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry L. Clark" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 11:36 AM > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] Mathew Cissell and Sarah Howard > > > > > > > > > > According to my records a Sarah Howard daughter of William Howard and > > Sarah > > Smith, married a Frances Xavier Spinks and their daughter Ann "Nancy > > Spinks > > married Edward Burch. > > > > > > I don't have a William Spinks married to a Sarah Howard. > > > > > > As far as I know John Baptist Howard did not have a father named William > > Howard, but at this time we don't know who the father is of John Baptist > > Howard. > > > > > > > > Did her father have a brother named William, who married Sarah SPINKS. My > > Spinks family was in Washington Co., KY about 1799 or earlier, and Sarah > > Howard Spinks husband, William Spinks, was dead by this time, but, they > > also > > had a son named William Spinks, as well as a daughter Ann Spinks, who > > married Edward BURCH. > > > > Thanks, > > Sallie Cannon - TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jerry L. Clark" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:26 AM > > Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Mathew Cissell and Sarah Howard > > > > > >> > >> Dear List, > >> > >> Can anyone give me all the children of Mathew Cissell and Sarah Howard. > >> > >> Linda Reno needs it from the St. Mary's County, Maryland List, and I'm > >> not > >> sure I have all of their children. > >> > >> > >> Mathew Cissell married Sarah Howard on 11 March 1795 in Washington > >> County, > >> KY. Linda Reno had date of 17 Mar 1795 not sure who is more correct. Can > >> anyone locate the marriage record to verify? > >> > >> These are the children I have for them: > >> > >> Elizabeth Cissell born abt 4 Apr 1800 married on 19 Sept 1818 in > > Washington > >> County, KY to Robert Rhodes son of Cornelius Rhodes and Anastatia > > Mattingly > >> > >> Harriett E. Cissell born 22 April 1802 Washington County, KY died 12 Dec > >> 1876 Marion County, KY married 20 Nov 1824 Washington County, KY to > > William > >> Rhodes born 4 April 1800 Washington DC, he died 24 Jan 1880 in Marion > >> County, KY > >> > >> Charles Cissell born 1808 Washington County, KY married 28 Oct 1828 in > >> Hardin County, KY to Rebecca Shipley Geoghegan born 10 Dec 1809 Hardin > >> County, KY died 25 Feb 1883 Hardin County, KY she was the daughter of > >> Ambrose Denton Geoghegan Jr. and Elizabeth Shipley > >> > >> > >> Mathew J. Cissell born 1811 in Washington County, KY died 17 May 1865 in > >> Marion County, KY married Angeline M. Hagan born 20 May 1819, she died 18 > >> oct 1853, I have they married on 3 oct 1835, but I don't know where they > >> married. She was the daughter of John Hagen and Elizabeth Hayden > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >