Yes, the mg record for Charles Younger & Sarah Sullivan Percell is in Clark Co, IN-- m 8-21-1807. Do not know what it says but mg is listed in the index of mgs to 1850 on the IN State Lib web site. Other Younger mgs, too but none as early as Charles'. Also--Ky Mgs on ancestry.com (to 1825) does not list any Younger mgs in Lincoln Co.-- Bourbon Co Mgs. Younger: Catherine - Michael Smith 17 Nov 1788 Bourbon Lewis - Nancy Crose 28 Aug 1823 Bourbon Elizabeth - John B. Cundiff 16 Mar 1820 Bullitt Rachel - James Watson 29 Apr 1820 Bullitt Mahala - Cornelius Bird 2 Apr 1822 Bullitt Mary - Richard Condiff 9 Jun 1822 Bullitt (prob Cundiff) Isaac - Ellen Younger 4 Nov 1822 Bullitt Peter - Abigale Dennis 13 Mar 1798 Gerrard Charles - Nancy Toney 13 Apr 1798 Gerrard Rachel - William Word 29 Oct 1806 Gerrard Charles - Elizabeth Walker 19 Feb 1807 Hardin Elizabeth - John Coulson 28 Jan 1823 Harrison Catherine - Jediah Ashcraft 13 Feb 1825 Harrison William A. - Katy Crabtree 1 Jan 1810 Logan Joseph H. - Barbara Shouse 14 Apr 798 Madison Kennard - Elizth Cambron 15 Feb 1792 Nelson Henry - Rutch Gatch 15 Jul 1793 Nelson John - Elizabeth Kerns 17 Mar 1818 Nicholas Sarah - Horatio Morris 1 Sep 1823 Nicholas Deborah - Samuel Shannon 30 Nov 1820 Shelby Betsey - Solomon Haynes 9 Aug 1810 Washington Sally - John Easton 30 Jun 1812 Washington John - Mary Deringer 5 Jun 1795 Woodford Ruth - Geo. Caplinger 20 Apr 1796 Woodford Then we have: Younger Witherspoon - Patsy Greathouse 10 Oct 1825 Warren Younger Jones - Caty Duett 19 Mar 1821 Shelby Younger Arnold - Jane Weakley 12 NOv 1811 Shelby Younger P. SMITH - Polly Holloday 20 Feb 1823 Gallatin (s/o Michael & Catherine Younger Smith????) Younger Hisle - Maeth Noris 11 Dec 1824 Clark Can't get any listing for Ky 1790, 1800. Ancestry's listing of Ky Censuses starts 1810. So: 1810 Bullitt Co, Ky Younger, Kennard 12110 - 30010 - 00 pg 355 Younger, Henry 40010 - 24010-01 p 355 Younger, Isaac 20010 - 00100- 00 p 355 1810 Boone Co, Ky - p 121 Peter Younger 10010 - 20010 - 00 1810: John Younger, Frankfor, Franklin, Ky; p 180: 21110 - 31010 - 010 Charles Younger, not stated, Logan Co p 195: 12211 - 02201-?? William Younger- not stated, Logan Co p 173: 31100 - 2000? ?? Joshua Younger not stated, Montgomery Co; p 383: 2????-???? (where ? is at-- not complete page & can't tell who is listed). 1810 Logan Co, KY: Samuel Holoway 21010 - 12010 -?? - 195 Charles Younger --above p 195 Stephen Smith 10010 - 21110-?? - 195 (all three listed as above on census) 1820 couldn't find 1830 Clay Co, MO; p 292: Charles L. Younger 0001001000000- 0010001000000 Coleman L. Younger: 0000100000000 - 1000100000000 Henry W. Younger 0000100000000 - 0010000000000 Other Youngers In 1830 Cen Index: M. F Younger, not stated, Howard Co, MO Ruth Younger Mt Washington, Bullitt, KY Isaac JR Mt Washington, Bullitt, Ky Elen Mt Washington, Bullitt, Ky Steven not stated, Lawrence, IN Joseph- n/state, Bond, IL Peter : n/stated, Grant, Ky Knard n/stated, Henry, Ky Willis n/stated, Hopkins, Ky Samuel : Russelville, Logan, Ky William : Russelville, Logan, Ky Nimrod: n/stated, Morgan, Ky Joshua, n/stated, Nicholas, Ky Lewis, n/stated, Nicholas, Ky Charles n/stated, Pendleton, Ky (0010100000000 - 0001000000000) John : n/stated, Shelby Ky James: Franklin, St Marys, LA 1840: Charles Younger n/stated, Clay, Mo 0000001000000 - 0000001000000 Coleman " : not stated, Clay, MO 11000100000000 - 2010010000000 (pg 3) (did not find Henry) Henry is listed as Harry in 1850 Cen Blue Twp, Co of Jackson, MO: p 265B 1/1 Charles Younger 61 farmer 50,000 Ky Sarah 62 Ky Adeline 14 MO 2/2 Booker? John Jailor -- his family & prisoners in jail. 3/3 Younger, Harry 38 m farmer 9000 MO , Beersha 33 Mo , Helen 18 , Isabela 16 , Martha H. 14 , Richard 12 , Jospehine 10 , Caroline 8 , Coleman 6 , Sarah A. 4 pg 266A , James H. 2 MO Soemato? , Hardin 30 m carpenter " " , Wiley 23 m do " 1810, 1820 Cen of Bullitt on line at the Bullitt Co, Web site -- as well as the 1870 of Bullitt Co. Mary Y.

I am seeking any information on a John CARTER, mentioned in Volume 4, page 148, and Volume 5 page 357, in "Littell's Laws of Kentucky". This supposedly has to do with a Murder of a James Miller, committed by John CARTER....Any help would be greatly appreciated... Would like a faxed copy, or a synopsis of the information. Thanks, Dick Carter [email protected] Dick Carter [email protected]

Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find the connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than the Purcells. If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi I think Jesse James was late 1890's. > Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but > just try and find the connection. Jesse James was in > KY but the family came much later than the Purcells. > If there is family tie there it is not an obvious > one.--Judi > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just > > picked up information > > along the way because of the Belle Starr connection > > to my ex-in-law's > > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 > > husband Rolly Bollin > > were "colorful" characters!!! > > > > You might also be interested to know that Cole > > Younger & the Dulins > > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & > > sister to Henry. > > Always found that interesting but not surprising. > > Don't know--but it > > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also > > connected. The Youngers, > > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of > > Ky-just before they > > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > > Samuels, don't know now > > who his father was. > > > > Mary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > > and James Sr. (brothers) > > > > > > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have > > a bit on them. > > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. > > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > > committed fornication with Mary > > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined > > 30s. and ordered to give > > > security to keep the county from any charge by > > means of his bastard child > > > called Alexander." > > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a > > bit large for list. > > > Dave > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > > and James Sr. > > > (brothers) > > > > > > > > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > > Leighton Fristoe were > > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger > > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the > > Youngers moved to > > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen > > articles about the > > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and > > Cole had a black half > > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > > >> > > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > > Maybelle Shirley's dau > > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle > > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & > > Myra had a son Ed, too, > > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in > > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > > >> area (the same area as my > > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > > (don't ask me how she got > > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for > > Belle > > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > > were supposidly friends. > > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising > > when Belle shot Sam > > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told > > this years ago by > > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > > tall tale"!! Was very > > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > > Starr in a magazine (IE: > > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > > don't remember which) > > >> which related the incident as well as other > > things. > > >> > > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony > > across the Indian > > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > > speak a word of English. > > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee > > Nation, OK & are > > >> buried at Eufalia. > > >> > > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I > > married their > > >> son. > > >> > > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds > > of things!!! > > >> > > >> Mary Yoder > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > > Thomas and James Sr. > > >> (brothers) > > >> > > >> > > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on > > Sarah > > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to > > you > > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > > Henry > > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles > > must > > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > > Indiana. > > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > > most > > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > > Purcells > > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > > Sullivan. A > > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > > middle > > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would > > have > > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day > > though > > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He > > was an > > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the > > >>> Americans, considered a traditor because he > > helped the > > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be > > of > > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > > Sullivan > > >>>> Purcell. > > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are > > in > > >>>> there twice once as > > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, > > 1796. > > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > > Twain? > > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > > >>>> Dave > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > > <[email protected]> > > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > > and > > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, > > etc.) > > >>>> were > > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah > > >>>> > Hite?)lived in Frederick County, Maryland. > > These > > >>>> sons > > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > > Another > > >>>> son, > > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), > > >>>> County > > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just > > >>>> across > > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA > > around > > >>>> > 1750. > > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > > County > > >>>> with > > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > > children > > >>>> Isaac > > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > > Bullitt > > >>>> County; > > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt > > >>>> County; > > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah > > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other > > >>>> chidren of > > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who > > >>>> married > > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL > > who > > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > > (Biggerstaff?) and > > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived > > in > > >>>> Nelson > > >>>> > County. > > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > > interest > > >>>> in > > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > > >>>> Counties.--Judith > > >>>> > Purcell > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > __________________________________________________ > > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > >>>> protection around > > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > __________________________________________________ > > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > >>> http://mail.yahoo.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html >

I have a bit of info on the Younger lineage sent to me years ago because of the marriage of Joshua Younger who married Elizabeth Virginia Lee. Lee being the line I was searching. To pick up a bit on the Purcell line, this article has Charles Lee Younger b Dec 28. 1779 died Nov 12 1854 married Sarah S. Purcell b 1788. Her will probated Dec 11 1859. Charles Lee Younger was first married to Nancy Toney 1798 and had a child Milton. May have had Thomas Coleman and Elizabeth by Nancy Toney also. Children by Sarah S. Purcell were; Henry Washington, Virginia Lee, Lucy Sullivan, Littleton Purcell, Sidney Ann. Adaline. (Proven by D.A.R.) Ancestry.com has parents of Sarah Sullivan Purcell as #1 Joseph Piersall and Elizabeth Hicks. #2 Sarah a daughter of Thomas Purcell and Elizabeth Sullivan. Sarah S. Purcell born June 10, 1782 Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co. Ky. died Jan 11 1859 Clay Co Mo. Dorothy

It seems that I have become the bearer of bad news on a regular basis, I am sorry for that. Many of you knew Pat Craven when she worked at the courthouse annex in the old records room in Bardstown until she retired a few years ago.. She may have helped you locate records when you visited to do research or she may have made copies and mailed them to you when you were unable to come here. Pat may have even done your family genealogy for you. She was a wealth of information on virtually every family in Nelson County, able to tell you something about your family, sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. It was Pat who organized the old records and kept them safe so they are still available for us now. Oh yes, I know that she was sometimes a little TOO protective and ruffled more than a few feathers by keeping things locked and not letting you copy certain things, her intentions were good though. She was intent on not letting things "walk out" of that basement and be lost forever. She may have been a little possessive about her beloved old records but we have her to thank for those records being orderly and easy to find. Pat may not have been the easiest person to get along with, when you walked into the annex you just never knew whether she would like you or hate you at first sight. I was one of those people that she hated at first sight and she made it very difficult for me to do my research. I never knew why. It seemed such a shame to me as I thought we had interests in common and I was going to be moving to Bardstown soon and I had hoped that we could be friends. It was not to be. I am reminded of the story I heard few years ago, Pat's daughter, who had not seen her in years, inquired as to whether her mother was still alive. She said that she did not wish to have any contact with her mother, she just wanted to know if she was alive and well. I felt sorry for both of them, they were missing out on the closest bond of all, a mother-daughter bond. I spend much of my time these days at the courthouse transcribing records for our books and quarterly magazines, filling requests from our members for copies of marriage bonds, wills, deeds etc. and I think how lucky we are to have had a woman like Pat who helped make it all possible. No matter what my experiences were, I have always had the utmost respect and admiration for her dedication to preserving our history. Now Pat Craven is lying in a hospital in Louisville, with days or weeks to live. If you have remembrances or kind wishes to share, we would like to let Pat know that there are people out there who care and appreciate what she has done for them. Please e-mail whatever you would like to share and I will see that she gets them. I am sure that it would mean a lot to her in her final days. Thanks DeAnna Nichols Fisher, President Nelson County Genealogical Roundtable P.O. Box 409, Bardstown, KY 40004 e-mail: [email protected] web page: www.rootsweb.com/~kyncgr

If you're referring to the Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co KY birth citation for Sarah Sullivan Purcell, it was obtained directly from the Hihn-Younger archive of documents at the University of Santa Cruz, California. -----Original Message----- From: David Lee [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) The Lincoln Co. birth site was picked up from a Younger web site and has not been proven so do not hang your hat on it. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > Eric-- > If Sarah Sullivan was born in Lincoln County, Ky (if I am reading > correctly) then it is doubtful she would be a daughter of Thomas > Purcell and wife Elenor Sullivan located in Nelson/Bullitt County, KY > in 1780. Thomas Purcell had 400 acres of land there surveyed by > Daniel Sullivan (bro. to Elenor). Sorry I was not able to find more > through my research in trying to find the Purcell connection. I did > not find anything in Clark County, Indiana regarding Purcells except > for this marriage. But anyone should feel free to check as certainly > a more in-depth research might turn up something. > I have tried to contact anyone who states as a fact that she was > daughter of Thomas and Elenor (Sullivan) Purcell but so far no > answers. Maybe your query will bring something to light. I think I > will stop including her as a possible daughter in light of the Lincoln > County, Kentucky information. Thomas Purcell did have a daugther name > Catherine Sullivan Purcell who married Hezekiah Lard in Nelson County, > KY and later a James in St. Louis, MO. Sorry I don't have the James > information with me, but will say there appeared to be no connection > to Jesse James. Judi > > --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: > >> As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, >> here's some information, followed by a query. >> >> Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, >> 1854, Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger >> brothers associated with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's >> son, Col. Henry Washington Younger. The elder Col. Younger married >> Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan >> 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage occurred on Aug 21, 1807 in >> Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. James Lemon. They >> had six children, among whom was Col. >> Coleman Purcell Younger, >> b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa >> Clara Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California >> under Mexican rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State >> legislature, and in California became President of the California >> Society of Pioneers. He also was associated with Jesse & Frank James' >> uncle Drury Woodson James, also a cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, >> CA. >> >> It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage >> of his father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the >> Hihn-Younger archives at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in >> 2002. The question now remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah >> Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is known of her, other than what I've >> stated. Does anyone know? >> >> ERIC JAMES >> Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 www.ericjames.org >> >> Col Younger and Sarah Purcell >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Judith Purcell >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. >> (brothers) >> >> Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and >> find the connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much >> later than the Purcells. >> If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi >> >> --- [email protected] wrote: >> >> > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just >> picked up information >> > along the way because of the Belle Starr >> connection to my ex-in-law's >> > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 >> husband Rolly Bollin >> > were "colorful" characters!!! >> > >> > You might also be interested to know that Cole >> Younger & the Dulins >> > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & >> sister to Henry. >> > Always found that interesting but not surprising. >> > Don't know--but it >> > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also >> connected. The Youngers, >> > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of >> Ky-just before they >> > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. >> > Samuels, don't know now >> > who his father was. >> > >> > Mary >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM >> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and James Sr. >> > (brothers) >> > >> > >> > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I >> have >> > a bit on them. >> > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. >> > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 >> > committed fornication with Mary >> > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined >> > 30s. and ordered to give >> > > security to keep the county from any charge by >> > means of his bastard child >> > > called Alexander." >> > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is >> a >> > bit large for list. >> > > Dave >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: <[email protected]> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM >> > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> Thomas >> > and James Sr. >> > > (brothers) >> > > >> > > >> > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba >> > Leighton Fristoe were >> > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger >> > (Thomas Cole?? Have never >> > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the >> > Youngers moved to >> > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen >> > articles about the >> > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. >> and >> > Cole had a black half >> > >> sister (documented if you care to check). >> > >> >> > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra >> > Maybelle Shirley's dau >> > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle >> > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >> > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John >> & >> > Myra had a son Ed, too, >> > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr >> in >> > Ok; lived in the Eufalia >> > >> area (the same area as my >> > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >> > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My >> > daus' GGm Minnie Belle >> > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL >> > (don't ask me how she got >> > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle >> for >> > Belle >> > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey >> > were supposidly friends. >> > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising >> > when Belle shot Sam >> > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was >> told >> > this years ago by >> > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a >> > tall tale"!! Was very >> > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle >> > Starr in a magazine (IE: >> > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but >> > don't remember which) >> > >> which related the incident as well as other >> > things. >> > >> >> > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto >> pony >> > across the Indian >> > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't >> > speak a word of English. >> > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee >> > Nation, OK & are >> > >> buried at Eufalia. >> > >> >> > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- >> I >> > married their >> > >> son. >> > >> >> > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds >> > of things!!! >> > >> >> > >> Mary Yoder >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> From: "Judith Purcell" >> <[email protected]> >> > >> To: <[email protected]> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >> > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> > Thomas and James Sr. >> > >> (brothers) >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on >> > Sarah >> > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to >> > you >> > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a >> > Henry >> > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and >> Charles >> > must >> > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in >> > Indiana. >> > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the >> > most >> > >>> likely connection with this couple and the >> > Purcells >> > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor >> > Sullivan. A >> > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her >> > middle >> > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would >> > have >> > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day >> > though >> > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He >> > was an >> > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the >> Americans, >> > >>> considered a traditor because he >> > helped the >> > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't >> be >> > of >> > >>> more help. Judi Purcell >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah >> > Sullivan >> > >>>> Purcell. >> > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most >> are >> > in >> > >>>> there twice once as >> > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >> > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, >> > 1796. >> > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark >> > Twain? >> > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >> > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >> > >>>> Dave >> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" >> > <[email protected]> >> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> >> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >> > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> Thomas >> > and >> > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, >> > etc.) >> > >>>> were >> > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah >> Hite?)lived in >> > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. >> > These >> > >>>> sons >> > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. >> > Another >> > >>>> son, >> > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick >> (Allegany), >> > >>>> County >> > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found >> just >> > >>>> across >> > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA >> > around >> > >>>> > 1750. >> > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt >> > County >> > >>>> with >> > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had >> > children >> > >>>> Isaac >> > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 >> > Bullitt >> > >>>> County; >> > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >> > >>>> County; >> > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >> > >>>> LARD/LAIRD >> > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >> > >>>> chidren of >> > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >> > >>>> married >> > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan >> PURCELL >> > who >> > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >> > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna >> > (Biggerstaff?) and >> > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived >> > in >> > >>>> Nelson >> > >>>> > County. >> > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has >> > interest >> > >>>> in >> > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >> > >>>> Counties.--Judith >> > >>>> > Purcell >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best >> spam >> > >>>> protection around >> > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > __________________________________________________ >> > >>> Do You Yahoo!? >> > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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I would not be so quick to dismiss her. In that time period, Kentucky is still Virginia, and Kentucky is a county of Virginia. Nelson and Bullitt counties didn't even exist. The only permanent settlements were the forts and stations. Everyone in the entire area was on the move. Crab Orchard itself was a way station for migrants from the Old Dominion. Out of the thousands who passed through there, only a handful of families stayed there. If it were not for the family archives, who would have though to look for Sara Purcell's 1807 marriage in Indiana. It didn't become a state until 1816. My suggestions is to track the Purcell in-law families for their records and migration routes. When written records are exhausted, it's best to keep exploring the tangents. By the way, there is a Lard family related to the Woodson family, who are kin to the James. Relationship are not always found in linear forms. -----Original Message----- From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) Eric-- If Sarah Sullivan was born in Lincoln County, Ky (if I am reading correctly) then it is doubtful she would be a daughter of Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor Sullivan located in Nelson/Bullitt County, KY in 1780. Thomas Purcell had 400 acres of land there surveyed by Daniel Sullivan (bro. to Elenor). Sorry I was not able to find more through my research in trying to find the Purcell connection. I did not find anything in Clark County, Indiana regarding Purcells except for this marriage. But anyone should feel free to check as certainly a more in-depth research might turn up something. I have tried to contact anyone who states as a fact that she was daughter of Thomas and Elenor (Sullivan) Purcell but so far no answers. Maybe your query will bring something to light. I think I will stop including her as a possible daughter in light of the Lincoln County, Kentucky information. Thomas Purcell did have a daugther name Catherine Sullivan Purcell who married Hezekiah Lard in Nelson County, KY and later a James in St. Louis, MO. Sorry I don't have the James information with me, but will say there appeared to be no connection to Jesse James. Judi --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: > As long as you've stumbled across the > Purcell-Younger connection, here's > some information, followed by a query. > > Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, > 1854, Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers > associated with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. > Henry Washington Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah > Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 > in Clay Co Mo. The marriage occurred on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, > Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. James Lemon. They had six > children, among whom was Col. > Coleman Purcell Younger, > b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa > Clara Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California > under Mexican rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State > legislature, and in California became President of the California > Society of Pioneers. He also was associated with Jesse & Frank James' > uncle Drury Woodson James, also a cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, > CA. > > It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage > of his father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the > Hihn-Younger archives at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in > 2002. The question now remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan > Purcell? Nothing more is known of her, other than what I've stated. > Does anyone know? > > ERIC JAMES > Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 www.ericjames.org > > Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith Purcell > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and > find the connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much > later than the Purcells. > If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just > picked up information > > along the way because of the Belle Starr > connection to my ex-in-law's > > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 > husband Rolly Bollin > > were "colorful" characters!!! > > > > You might also be interested to know that Cole > Younger & the Dulins > > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & > sister to Henry. > > Always found that interesting but not surprising. > > Don't know--but it > > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also > connected. The Youngers, > > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of > Ky-just before they > > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > > Samuels, don't know now > > who his father was. > > > > Mary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. > > (brothers) > > > > > > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I > have > > a bit on them. > > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. > > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > > committed fornication with Mary > > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined > > 30s. and ordered to give > > > security to keep the county from any charge by > > means of his bastard child > > > called Alexander." > > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is > a > > bit large for list. > > > Dave > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas > > and James Sr. > > > (brothers) > > > > > > > > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > > Leighton Fristoe were > > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger > > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the > > Youngers moved to > > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen > > articles about the > > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. > and > > Cole had a black half > > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > > >> > > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > > Maybelle Shirley's dau > > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle > > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John > & > > Myra had a son Ed, too, > > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr > in > > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > > >> area (the same area as my > > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > > (don't ask me how she got > > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle > for > > Belle > > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > > were supposidly friends. > > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising > > when Belle shot Sam > > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was > told > > this years ago by > > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > > tall tale"!! Was very > > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > > Starr in a magazine (IE: > > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > > don't remember which) > > >> which related the incident as well as other > > things. > > >> > > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto > pony > > across the Indian > > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > > speak a word of English. > > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee > > Nation, OK & are > > >> buried at Eufalia. > > >> > > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- > I > > married their > > >> son. > > >> > > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds > > of things!!! > > >> > > >> Mary Yoder > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Judith Purcell" > <[email protected]> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > > Thomas and James Sr. > > >> (brothers) > > >> > > >> > > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on > > Sarah > > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to > > you > > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > > Henry > > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and > Charles > > must > > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > > Indiana. > > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > > most > > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > > Purcells > > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > > Sullivan. A > > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > > middle > > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would > > have > > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day > > though > > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He > > was an > > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the > Americans, > > >>> considered a traditor because he > > helped the > > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't > be > > of > > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > > Sullivan > > >>>> Purcell. > > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most > are > > in > > >>>> there twice once as > > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, > > 1796. > > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > > Twain? > > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > > >>>> Dave > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > > <[email protected]> > > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas > > and > > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, > > etc.) > > >>>> were > > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah > Hite?)lived in > > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. > > These > > >>>> sons > > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > > Another > > >>>> son, > > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick > (Allegany), > > >>>> County > > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found > just > > >>>> across > > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA > > around > > >>>> > 1750. > > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > > County > > >>>> with > > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > > children > > >>>> Isaac > > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > > Bullitt > > >>>> County; > > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt > > >>>> County; > > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah > > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other > > >>>> chidren of > > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who > > >>>> married > > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan > PURCELL > > who > > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > > (Biggerstaff?) and > > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived > > in > > >>>> Nelson > > >>>> > County. > > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > > interest > > >>>> in > > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > > >>>> Counties.--Judith > > >>>> > Purcell > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > __________________________________________________ > > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best > spam > > >>>> protection around > > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > __________________________________________________ > > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Then it is probably correct. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > If you're referring to the Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co KY birth citation for > Sarah Sullivan Purcell, it was obtained directly from the Hihn-Younger > archive of documents at the University of Santa Cruz, California. > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Lee [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > The Lincoln Co. birth site was picked up from a Younger web site and has > not > been proven so do not hang your hat on it. > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]om> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:42 PM > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > >> Eric-- >> If Sarah Sullivan was born in Lincoln County, Ky (if I am reading >> correctly) then it is doubtful she would be a daughter of Thomas >> Purcell and wife Elenor Sullivan located in Nelson/Bullitt County, KY >> in 1780. Thomas Purcell had 400 acres of land there surveyed by >> Daniel Sullivan (bro. to Elenor). Sorry I was not able to find more >> through my research in trying to find the Purcell connection. I did >> not find anything in Clark County, Indiana regarding Purcells except >> for this marriage. But anyone should feel free to check as certainly >> a more in-depth research might turn up something. >> I have tried to contact anyone who states as a fact that she was >> daughter of Thomas and Elenor (Sullivan) Purcell but so far no >> answers. Maybe your query will bring something to light. I think I >> will stop including her as a possible daughter in light of the Lincoln >> County, Kentucky information. Thomas Purcell did have a daugther name >> Catherine Sullivan Purcell who married Hezekiah Lard in Nelson County, >> KY and later a James in St. Louis, MO. Sorry I don't have the James >> information with me, but will say there appeared to be no connection >> to Jesse James. Judi >> >> --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, >>> here's some information, followed by a query. >>> >>> Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, >>> 1854, Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger >>> brothers associated with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's >>> son, Col. Henry Washington Younger. The elder Col. Younger married >>> Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan >>> 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage occurred on Aug 21, 1807 in >>> Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. James Lemon. They >>> had six children, among whom was Col. >>> Coleman Purcell Younger, >>> b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa >>> Clara Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California >>> under Mexican rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State >>> legislature, and in California became President of the California >>> Society of Pioneers. He also was associated with Jesse & Frank James' >>> uncle Drury Woodson James, also a cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, >>> CA. >>> >>> It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage >>> of his father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the >>> Hihn-Younger archives at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in >>> 2002. The question now remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah >>> Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is known of her, other than what I've >>> stated. Does anyone know? >>> >>> ERIC JAMES >>> Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 www.ericjames.org >>> >>> Col Younger and Sarah Purcell >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Judith Purcell >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. >>> (brothers) >>> >>> Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and >>> find the connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much >>> later than the Purcells. >>> If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi >>> >>> --- [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just >>> picked up information >>> > along the way because of the Belle Starr >>> connection to my ex-in-law's >>> > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 >>> husband Rolly Bollin >>> > were "colorful" characters!!! >>> > >>> > You might also be interested to know that Cole >>> Younger & the Dulins >>> > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & >>> sister to Henry. >>> > Always found that interesting but not surprising. >>> > Don't know--but it >>> > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also >>> connected. The Youngers, >>> > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of >>> Ky-just before they >>> > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. >>> > Samuels, don't know now >>> > who his father was. >>> > >>> > Mary >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> >>> > To: <[email protected]> >>> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM >>> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >>> and James Sr. >>> > (brothers) >>> > >>> > >>> > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I >>> have >>> > a bit on them. >>> > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. >>> > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 >>> > committed fornication with Mary >>> > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined >>> > 30s. and ordered to give >>> > > security to keep the county from any charge by >>> > means of his bastard child >>> > > called Alexander." >>> > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is >>> a >>> > bit large for list. >>> > > Dave >>> > > >>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > From: <[email protected]> >>> > > To: <[email protected]> >>> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM >>> > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >>> Thomas >>> > and James Sr. >>> > > (brothers) >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba >>> > Leighton Fristoe were >>> > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger >>> > (Thomas Cole?? Have never >>> > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the >>> > Youngers moved to >>> > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen >>> > articles about the >>> > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. >>> and >>> > Cole had a black half >>> > >> sister (documented if you care to check). >>> > >> >>> > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra >>> > Maybelle Shirley's dau >>> > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle >>> > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >>> > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John >>> & >>> > Myra had a son Ed, too, >>> > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr >>> in >>> > Ok; lived in the Eufalia >>> > >> area (the same area as my >>> > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >>> > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My >>> > daus' GGm Minnie Belle >>> > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL >>> > (don't ask me how she got >>> > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle >>> for >>> > Belle >>> > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey >>> > were supposidly friends. >>> > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising >>> > when Belle shot Sam >>> > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was >>> told >>> > this years ago by >>> > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a >>> > tall tale"!! Was very >>> > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle >>> > Starr in a magazine (IE: >>> > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but >>> > don't remember which) >>> > >> which related the incident as well as other >>> > things. >>> > >> >>> > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto >>> pony >>> > across the Indian >>> > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't >>> > speak a word of English. >>> > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee >>> > Nation, OK & are >>> > >> buried at Eufalia. >>> > >> >>> > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- >>> I >>> > married their >>> > >> son. >>> > >> >>> > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds >>> > of things!!! >>> > >> >>> > >> Mary Yoder >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > >> From: "Judith Purcell" >>> <[email protected]> >>> > >> To: <[email protected]> >>> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >>> > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >>> > Thomas and James Sr. >>> > >> (brothers) >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on >>> > Sarah >>> > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to >>> > you >>> > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a >>> > Henry >>> > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and >>> Charles >>> > must >>> > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in >>> > Indiana. >>> > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the >>> > most >>> > >>> likely connection with this couple and the >>> > Purcells >>> > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor >>> > Sullivan. A >>> > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her >>> > middle >>> > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would >>> > have >>> > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day >>> > though >>> > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He >>> > was an >>> > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the >>> Americans, >>> > >>> considered a traditor because he >>> > helped the >>> > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't >>> be >>> > of >>> > >>> more help. Judi Purcell >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >>> > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah >>> > Sullivan >>> > >>>> Purcell. >>> > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most >>> are >>> > in >>> > >>>> there twice once as >>> > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >>> > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, >>> > 1796. >>> > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark >>> > Twain? >>> > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >>> > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >>> > >>>> Dave >>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" >>> > <[email protected]> >>> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >>> > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >>> Thomas >>> > and >>> > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, >>> > etc.) >>> > >>>> were >>> > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah >>> Hite?)lived in >>> > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. >>> > These >>> > >>>> sons >>> > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. >>> > Another >>> > >>>> son, >>> > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick >>> (Allegany), >>> > >>>> County >>> > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found >>> just >>> > >>>> across >>> > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA >>> > around >>> > >>>> > 1750. >>> > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt >>> > County >>> > >>>> with >>> > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had >>> > children >>> > >>>> Isaac >>> > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 >>> > Bullitt >>> > >>>> County; >>> > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >>> > >>>> County; >>> > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >>> > >>>> LARD/LAIRD >>> > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >>> > >>>> chidren of >>> > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >>> > >>>> married >>> > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan >>> PURCELL >>> > who >>> > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >>> > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna >>> > (Biggerstaff?) and >>> > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived >>> > in >>> > >>>> Nelson >>> > >>>> > County. >>> > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has >>> > interest >>> > >>>> in >>> > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >>> > >>>> Counties.--Judith >>> > >>>> > Purcell >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ >>> > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >>> > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Jesse Woodson James was born on a farm near Centerville, MO Sept. 5, 1847. The 3rd son of Robert James & Zarilda Cole who were m. Dec 28 1841 in Scott Co., KY. Their 1st son Alexander Franklin "Frank" James was born there Jan. 10, 1843. In 1849 Rev. Robert James got "Gold Fever" deserted his family & took off for Califonia where he died of food poisoning a year or so later. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:13 PM Subject: [KYNELSON-L] James Sr. (brothers) > Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but > just try and find the connection. Jesse James was in > KY but the family came much later than the Purcells. > If there is family tie there it is not an obvious > one.--Judi > > > > I think Jesse James was late 1890's. > > >> Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but >> just try and find the connection. Jesse James was in >> KY but the family came much later than the Purcells. >> If there is family tie there it is not an obvious >> one.--Judi >> >> --- [email protected] wrote: >> >> > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just >> > picked up information >> > along the way because of the Belle Starr connection >> > to my ex-in-law's >> > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 >> > husband Rolly Bollin >> > were "colorful" characters!!! >> > >> > You might also be interested to know that Cole >> > Younger & the Dulins >> > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & >> > sister to Henry. >> > Always found that interesting but not surprising. >> > Don't know--but it >> > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also >> > connected. The Youngers, >> > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of >> > Ky-just before they >> > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. >> > Samuels, don't know now >> > who his father was. >> > >> > Mary >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM >> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> > and James Sr. (brothers) >> > >> > >> > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have >> > a bit on them. >> > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. >> > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 >> > committed fornication with Mary >> > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined >> > 30s. and ordered to give >> > > security to keep the county from any charge by >> > means of his bastard child >> > > called Alexander." >> > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a >> > bit large for list. >> > > Dave >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: <[email protected]> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM >> > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> > and James Sr. >> > > (brothers) >> > > >> > > >> > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba >> > Leighton Fristoe were >> > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger >> > (Thomas Cole?? Have never >> > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the >> > Youngers moved to >> > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen >> > articles about the >> > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and >> > Cole had a black half >> > >> sister (documented if you care to check). >> > >> >> > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra >> > Maybelle Shirley's dau >> > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle >> > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >> > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & >> > Myra had a son Ed, too, >> > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in >> > Ok; lived in the Eufalia >> > >> area (the same area as my >> > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >> > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My >> > daus' GGm Minnie Belle >> > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL >> > (don't ask me how she got >> > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for >> > Belle >> > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey >> > were supposidly friends. >> > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising >> > when Belle shot Sam >> > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told >> > this years ago by >> > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a >> > tall tale"!! Was very >> > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle >> > Starr in a magazine (IE: >> > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but >> > don't remember which) >> > >> which related the incident as well as other >> > things. >> > >> >> > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony >> > across the Indian >> > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't >> > speak a word of English. >> > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee >> > Nation, OK & are >> > >> buried at Eufalia. >> > >> >> > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I >> > married their >> > >> son. >> > >> >> > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds >> > of things!!! >> > >> >> > >> Mary Yoder >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >> > >> To: <[email protected]> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >> > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> > Thomas and James Sr. >> > >> (brothers) >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on >> > Sarah >> > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to >> > you >> > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a >> > Henry >> > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles >> > must >> > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in >> > Indiana. >> > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the >> > most >> > >>> likely connection with this couple and the >> > Purcells >> > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor >> > Sullivan. A >> > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her >> > middle >> > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would >> > have >> > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day >> > though >> > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He >> > was an >> > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the >> > >>> Americans, considered a traditor because he >> > helped the >> > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be >> > of >> > >>> more help. Judi Purcell >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah >> > Sullivan >> > >>>> Purcell. >> > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are >> > in >> > >>>> there twice once as >> > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >> > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, >> > 1796. >> > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark >> > Twain? >> > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >> > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >> > >>>> Dave >> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" >> > <[email protected]> >> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> >> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >> > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> > and >> > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, >> > etc.) >> > >>>> were >> > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah >> > >>>> > Hite?)lived in Frederick County, Maryland. >> > These >> > >>>> sons >> > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. >> > Another >> > >>>> son, >> > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), >> > >>>> County >> > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just >> > >>>> across >> > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA >> > around >> > >>>> > 1750. >> > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt >> > County >> > >>>> with >> > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had >> > children >> > >>>> Isaac >> > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 >> > Bullitt >> > >>>> County; >> > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >> > >>>> County; >> > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >> > >>>> LARD/LAIRD >> > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >> > >>>> chidren of >> > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >> > >>>> married >> > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL >> > who >> > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >> > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna >> > (Biggerstaff?) and >> > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived >> > in >> > >>>> Nelson >> > >>>> > County. >> > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has >> > interest >> > >>>> in >> > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >> > >>>> Counties.--Judith >> > >>>> > Purcell >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> > >>>> protection around >> > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > __________________________________________________ >> > >>> Do You Yahoo!? >> > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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The Lincoln Co. birth site was picked up from a Younger web site and has not been proven so do not hang your hat on it. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > Eric-- > If Sarah Sullivan was born in Lincoln County, Ky (if I > am reading correctly) then it is doubtful she would be > a daughter of Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor Sullivan > located in Nelson/Bullitt County, KY in 1780. Thomas > Purcell had 400 acres of land there surveyed by Daniel > Sullivan (bro. to Elenor). Sorry I was not able to > find more through my research in trying to find the > Purcell connection. I did not find anything in Clark > County, Indiana regarding Purcells except for this > marriage. But anyone should feel free to check as > certainly a more in-depth research might turn up > something. > I have tried to contact anyone who states as a fact > that she was daughter of Thomas and Elenor (Sullivan) > Purcell but so far no answers. Maybe your query will > bring something to light. I think I will stop > including her as a possible daughter in light of the > Lincoln County, Kentucky information. Thomas Purcell > did have a daugther name Catherine Sullivan Purcell > who married Hezekiah Lard in Nelson County, KY and > later a James in St. Louis, MO. Sorry I don't have > the James information with me, but will say there > appeared to be no connection to Jesse James. Judi > > --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: > >> As long as you've stumbled across the >> Purcell-Younger connection, here's >> some information, followed by a query. >> >> Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co >> KY, d. Nov 12, 1854, >> Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the >> Younger brothers associated >> with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, >> Col. Henry Washington >> Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah >> Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab >> Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co >> Mo. The marriage occurred >> on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was >> performed by Rev. James >> Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. >> Coleman Purcell Younger, >> b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 >> in San Jose, Santa Clara >> Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in >> California under Mexican >> rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State >> legislature, and in >> California became President of the California >> Society of Pioneers. He also >> was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury >> Woodson James, also a >> cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. >> >> It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from >> until the marriage of his >> father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in >> the Hihn-Younger archives >> at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in >> 2002. The question now >> remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan >> Purcell? Nothing more is >> known of her, other than what I've stated. Does >> anyone know? >> >> ERIC JAMES >> Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 >> www.ericjames.org >> >> Col Younger and Sarah Purcell >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Judith Purcell >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and James Sr. (brothers) >> >> Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, >> but just try and find the >> connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family >> came much later than the >> Purcells. >> If there is family tie there it is not an obvious >> one.--Judi >> >> --- [email protected] wrote: >> >> > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just >> picked up information >> > along the way because of the Belle Starr >> connection to my ex-in-law's >> > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 >> husband Rolly Bollin >> > were "colorful" characters!!! >> > >> > You might also be interested to know that Cole >> Younger & the Dulins >> > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & >> sister to Henry. >> > Always found that interesting but not surprising. >> > Don't know--but it >> > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also >> connected. The Youngers, >> > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of >> Ky-just before they >> > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. >> > Samuels, don't know now >> > who his father was. >> > >> > Mary >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM >> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and James Sr. >> > (brothers) >> > >> > >> > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I >> have >> > a bit on them. >> > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. >> > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 >> > committed fornication with Mary >> > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined >> > 30s. and ordered to give >> > > security to keep the county from any charge by >> > means of his bastard child >> > > called Alexander." >> > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is >> a >> > bit large for list. >> > > Dave >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: <[email protected]> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM >> > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> Thomas >> > and James Sr. >> > > (brothers) >> > > >> > > >> > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba >> > Leighton Fristoe were >> > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger >> > (Thomas Cole?? Have never >> > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the >> > Youngers moved to >> > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen >> > articles about the >> > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. >> and >> > Cole had a black half >> > >> sister (documented if you care to check). >> > >> >> > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra >> > Maybelle Shirley's dau >> > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle >> > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >> > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John >> & >> > Myra had a son Ed, too, >> > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr >> in >> > Ok; lived in the Eufalia >> > >> area (the same area as my >> > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >> > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My >> > daus' GGm Minnie Belle >> > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL >> > (don't ask me how she got >> > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle >> for >> > Belle >> > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey >> > were supposidly friends. >> > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising >> > when Belle shot Sam >> > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was >> told >> > this years ago by >> > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a >> > tall tale"!! Was very >> > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle >> > Starr in a magazine (IE: >> > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but >> > don't remember which) >> > >> which related the incident as well as other >> > things. >> > >> >> > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto >> pony >> > across the Indian >> > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't >> > speak a word of English. >> > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee >> > Nation, OK & are >> > >> buried at Eufalia. >> > >> >> > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- >> I >> > married their >> > >> son. >> > >> >> > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds >> > of things!!! >> > >> >> > >> Mary Yoder >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> From: "Judith Purcell" >> <[email protected]> >> > >> To: <[email protected]> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >> > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> > Thomas and James Sr. >> > >> (brothers) >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on >> > Sarah >> > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to >> > you >> > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a >> > Henry >> > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and >> Charles >> > must >> > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in >> > Indiana. >> > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the >> > most >> > >>> likely connection with this couple and the >> > Purcells >> > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor >> > Sullivan. A >> > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her >> > middle >> > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would >> > have >> > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day >> > though >> > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He >> > was an >> > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the >> Americans, >> > >>> considered a traditor because he >> > helped the >> > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't >> be >> > of >> > >>> more help. Judi Purcell >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah >> > Sullivan >> > >>>> Purcell. >> > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most >> are >> > in >> > >>>> there twice once as >> > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >> > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, >> > 1796. >> > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark >> > Twain? >> > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >> > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >> > >>>> Dave >> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" >> > <[email protected]> >> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> >> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >> > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> Thomas >> > and >> > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, >> > etc.) >> > >>>> were >> > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah >> Hite?)lived in >> > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. >> > These >> > >>>> sons >> > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. >> > Another >> > >>>> son, >> > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick >> (Allegany), >> > >>>> County >> > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found >> just >> > >>>> across >> > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA >> > around >> > >>>> > 1750. >> > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt >> > County >> > >>>> with >> > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had >> > children >> > >>>> Isaac >> > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 >> > Bullitt >> > >>>> County; >> > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >> > >>>> County; >> > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >> > >>>> LARD/LAIRD >> > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >> > >>>> chidren of >> > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >> > >>>> married >> > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan >> PURCELL >> > who >> > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >> > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna >> > (Biggerstaff?) and >> > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived >> > in >> > >>>> Nelson >> > >>>> > County. >> > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has >> > interest >> > >>>> in >> > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >> > >>>> Counties.--Judith >> > >>>> > Purcell >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best >> spam >> > >>>> protection around >> > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > __________________________________________________ >> > >>> Do You Yahoo!? >> > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, here's some information, followed by a query. Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, 1854, Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers associated with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry Washington Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage occurred on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. James Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell Younger, b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa Clara Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under Mexican rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He also was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, also a cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage of his father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger archives at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? ERIC JAMES Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 www.ericjames.org Col Younger and Sarah Purcell -----Original Message----- From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find the connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than the Purcells. If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi --- [email protected] wrote: > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up information > along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my ex-in-law's > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin > were "colorful" characters!!! > > You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. > Always found that interesting but not surprising. > Don't know--but it > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The Youngers, > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before they > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > Samuels, don't know now > who his father was. > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have > a bit on them. > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > committed fornication with Mary > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined > 30s. and ordered to give > > security to keep the county from any charge by > means of his bastard child > > called Alexander." > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a > bit large for list. > > Dave > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. > > (brothers) > > > > > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > Leighton Fristoe were > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the > Youngers moved to > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen > articles about the > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and > Cole had a black half > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > >> > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > Maybelle Shirley's dau > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & > Myra had a son Ed, too, > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > >> area (the same area as my > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > (don't ask me how she got > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for > Belle > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > were supposidly friends. > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising > when Belle shot Sam > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told > this years ago by > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > tall tale"!! Was very > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > Starr in a magazine (IE: > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > don't remember which) > >> which related the incident as well as other > things. > >> > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony > across the Indian > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > speak a word of English. > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee > Nation, OK & are > >> buried at Eufalia. > >> > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I > married their > >> son. > >> > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds > of things!!! > >> > >> Mary Yoder > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas and James Sr. > >> (brothers) > >> > >> > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on > Sarah > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to > you > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > Henry > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles > must > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > Indiana. > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > most > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > Purcells > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > Sullivan. A > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > middle > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would > have > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day > though > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He > was an > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, > >>> considered a traditor because he > helped the > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be > of > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > Sullivan > >>>> Purcell. > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are > in > >>>> there twice once as > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, > 1796. > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > Twain? > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > >>>> Dave > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > <[email protected]> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, > etc.) > >>>> were > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. > These > >>>> sons > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > Another > >>>> son, > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), > >>>> County > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just > >>>> across > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA > around > >>>> > 1750. > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > County > >>>> with > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > children > >>>> Isaac > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > Bullitt > >>>> County; > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt > >>>> County; > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other > >>>> chidren of > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who > >>>> married > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL > who > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > (Biggerstaff?) and > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived > in > >>>> Nelson > >>>> > County. > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > interest > >>>> in > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > >>>> Counties.--Judith > >>>> > Purcell > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > __________________________________________________ > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > >>>> protection around > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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David - Thanks for that. I will continue to keep an eye out. -- Judi Purcell --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > The Lincoln Co. birth site was picked up from a > Younger web site and has not > been proven so do not hang your hat on it. > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:42 PM > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. (brothers) > > > > Eric-- > > If Sarah Sullivan was born in Lincoln County, Ky > (if I > > am reading correctly) then it is doubtful she > would be > > a daughter of Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > Sullivan > > located in Nelson/Bullitt County, KY in 1780. > Thomas > > Purcell had 400 acres of land there surveyed by > Daniel > > Sullivan (bro. to Elenor). Sorry I was not able > to > > find more through my research in trying to find > the > > Purcell connection. I did not find anything in > Clark > > County, Indiana regarding Purcells except for this > > marriage. But anyone should feel free to check as > > certainly a more in-depth research might turn up > > something. > > I have tried to contact anyone who states as a > fact > > that she was daughter of Thomas and Elenor > (Sullivan) > > Purcell but so far no answers. Maybe your query > will > > bring something to light. I think I will stop > > including her as a possible daughter in light of > the > > Lincoln County, Kentucky information. Thomas > Purcell > > did have a daugther name Catherine Sullivan > Purcell > > who married Hezekiah Lard in Nelson County, KY and > > later a James in St. Louis, MO. Sorry I don't > have > > the James information with me, but will say there > > appeared to be no connection to Jesse James. Judi > > > > --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> As long as you've stumbled across the > >> Purcell-Younger connection, here's > >> some information, followed by a query. > >> > >> Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas > Co > >> KY, d. Nov 12, 1854, > >> Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the > >> Younger brothers associated > >> with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's > son, > >> Col. Henry Washington > >> Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah > >> Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab > >> Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay > Co > >> Mo. The marriage occurred > >> on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and > was > >> performed by Rev. James > >> Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. > >> Coleman Purcell Younger, > >> b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, > 1890 > >> in San Jose, Santa Clara > >> Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in > >> California under Mexican > >> rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State > >> legislature, and in > >> California became President of the California > >> Society of Pioneers. He also > >> was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle > Drury > >> Woodson James, also a > >> cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. > >> > >> It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from > >> until the marriage of his > >> father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered > in > >> the Hihn-Younger archives > >> at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in > >> 2002. The question now > >> remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan > >> Purcell? Nothing more is > >> known of her, other than what I've stated. Does > >> anyone know? > >> > >> ERIC JAMES > >> Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since > 1650 > >> www.ericjames.org > >> > >> Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Judith Purcell > >> [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas > >> and James Sr. (brothers) > >> > >> Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were > cousins, > >> but just try and find the > >> connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family > >> came much later than the > >> Purcells. > >> If there is family tie there it is not an obvious > >> one.--Judi > >> > >> --- [email protected] wrote: > >> > >> > Not really intersted in the Younger > Family--just > >> picked up information > >> > along the way because of the Belle Starr > >> connection to my ex-in-law's > >> > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 > >> husband Rolly Bollin > >> > were "colorful" characters!!! > >> > > >> > You might also be interested to know that Cole > >> Younger & the Dulins > >> > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a > Younger & > >> sister to Henry. > >> > Always found that interesting but not > surprising. > >> > Don't know--but it > >> > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also > >> connected. The Youngers, > >> > the Dulins & the James all form the same area > of > >> Ky-just before they > >> > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > >> > Samuels, don't know now > >> > who his father was. > >> > > >> > Mary > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > >> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas > >> and James Sr. > >> > (brothers) > >> > > >> > > >> > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I > >> have > >> > a bit on them. > >> > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that > family. > >> > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > >> > committed fornication with Mary > >> > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was > fined > >> > 30s. and ordered to give > >> > > security to keep the county from any charge > by > >> > means of his bastard child > >> > > called Alexander." > >> > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it > is > >> a > >> > bit large for list. > >> > > Dave > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: <[email protected]> > >> > > To: <[email protected]> > >> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > >> > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > >> Thomas > >> > and James Sr. > >> > > (brothers) > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & > Beersheba > >> > Leighton Fristoe were > >> > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole > Younger > >> > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > >> > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings > the > >> > Youngers moved to > >> > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have > seen > >> > articles about the > >> > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. > >> and > >> > Cole had a black half > >> > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > >> > >> > >> > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > >> > Maybelle Shirley's dau > >> > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra > Maybelle > >> > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > >> > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. > John > >> & > >> > Myra had a son Ed, too, > >> > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam > Starr > >> in > >> > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > >> > >> area (the same area as my > >> > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > >> > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > >> > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > >> > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, > IL > >> > (don't ask me how she got > >> > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named > Belle > >> for > >> > Belle > >> > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin > Ramsey > >> > were supposidly friends. > >> > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn > raising > >> > when Belle shot Sam > >> > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was > >> told > >> > this years ago by > >> > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling > a > >> > tall tale"!! Was very > >> > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > >> > Starr in a magazine (IE: > >> > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times > but > >> > don't remember which) > >> > >> which related the incident as well as other > >> > things. > >> > >> > >> > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto > >> pony > >> > across the Indian > >> > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > >> > speak a word of English. > >> > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, > Cherokee > >> > Nation, OK & are > >> > >> buried at Eufalia. > >> > >> > >> > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry > Yoder-- > >> I > >> > married their > >> > >> son. > >> > >> > >> > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all > kinds > >> > of things!!! > >> > >> > >> > >> Mary Yoder > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> From: "Judith Purcell" > >> <[email protected]> > >> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > >> > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > >> > Thomas and James Sr. > >> > >> (brothers) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything > on > >> > Sarah > >> > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back > to > >> > you > >> > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was > a > >> > Henry > >> > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and > >> Charles > >> > must > >> > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > >> > Indiana. > >> > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that > the > >> > most > >> > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > >> > Purcells > >> > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > >> > Sullivan. A > >> > >>> younger descendant told me that she said > her > >> > middle > >> > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who > would > >> > have > >> > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his > day > >> > though > >> > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. > He > >> > was an > >> > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for > the > >> Americans, > >> > >>> considered a traditor because he > >> > helped the > >> > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I > couldn't > >> be > >> > of > >> > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > >> > Sullivan > >> > >>>> Purcell. > >> > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most > >> are > >> > in > >> > >>>> there twice once as > >> > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > >> > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. > 4, > >> > 1796. > >> > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > >> > Twain? > >> > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > >> > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > >> > >>>> Dave > >> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > >> > <[email protected]> > >> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > >> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > >> > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > >> Thomas > >> > and > >> > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell > (Pursley, > >> > etc.) > >> > >>>> were > >> > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife > Keziah > >> Hite?)lived in > >> > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. > >> > These > >> > >>>> sons > >> > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > >> > Another > >> > >>>> son, > >> > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick > >> (Allegany), > >> > >>>> County > >> > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found > >> just > >> > >>>> across > >> > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, > VA > >> > around > >> > >>>> > 1750. > >> > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > >> > County > >> > >>>> with > >> > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > >> > children > >> > >>>> Isaac > >> > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > >> > Bullitt > >> > >>>> County; > >> > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived > Bullitt > >> > >>>> County; > >> > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of > Hezekiah > >> > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > >> > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible > other > >> > >>>> chidren of > >> > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL > who > >> > >>>> married > >> > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan > >> PURCELL > >> > who > >> > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > >> > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > >> > (Biggerstaff?) and > >> > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth > lived > >> > in > >> > >>>> Nelson > >> > >>>> > County. > >> > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > >> > interest > >> > >>>> in > >> > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > >> > >>>> Counties.--Judith > >> > >>>> > Purcell > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > > __________________________________________________ > >> > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > >> > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Eric Thanks for your advice and interesting connection. I'll keep looking. Judi --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: > I would not be so quick to dismiss her. In that time > period, Kentucky is > still Virginia, and Kentucky is a county of > Virginia. Nelson and Bullitt > counties didn't even exist. The only permanent > settlements were the forts > and stations. Everyone in the entire area was on the > move. Crab Orchard > itself was a way station for migrants from the Old > Dominion. Out of the > thousands who passed through there, only a handful > of families stayed there. > If it were not for the family archives, who would > have though to look for > Sara Purcell's 1807 marriage in Indiana. It didn't > become a state until > 1816. > > My suggestions is to track the Purcell in-law > families for their records and > migration routes. When written records are > exhausted, it's best to keep > exploring the tangents. By the way, there is a Lard > family related to the > Woodson family, who are kin to the James. > Relationship are not always found > in linear forms. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith Purcell > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. (brothers) > > Eric-- > If Sarah Sullivan was born in Lincoln County, Ky (if > I am reading correctly) > then it is doubtful she would be a daughter of > Thomas Purcell and wife > Elenor Sullivan located in Nelson/Bullitt County, KY > in 1780. Thomas > Purcell had 400 acres of land there surveyed by > Daniel Sullivan (bro. to > Elenor). Sorry I was not able to find more through > my research in trying to > find the Purcell connection. I did not find > anything in Clark County, > Indiana regarding Purcells except for this marriage. > But anyone should feel > free to check as certainly a more in-depth research > might turn up something. > > I have tried to contact anyone who states as a fact > that she was daughter of > Thomas and Elenor (Sullivan) Purcell but so far no > answers. Maybe your > query will bring something to light. I think I will > stop including her as a > possible daughter in light of the Lincoln County, > Kentucky information. > Thomas Purcell did have a daugther name Catherine > Sullivan Purcell who > married Hezekiah Lard in Nelson County, KY and later > a James in St. Louis, > MO. Sorry I don't have the James information with > me, but will say there > appeared to be no connection to Jesse James. Judi > > --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: > > > As long as you've stumbled across the > > Purcell-Younger connection, here's > > some information, followed by a query. > > > > Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas > Co KY, d. Nov 12, > > 1854, Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of > the Younger brothers > > associated with Jesse & Frank James through Col. > Younger's son, Col. > > Henry Washington Younger. The elder Col. Younger > married Sarah > > Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co > KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 > > in Clay Co Mo. The marriage occurred on Aug 21, > 1807 in Little York, > > Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. James Lemon. > They had six > > children, among whom was Col. > > Coleman Purcell Younger, > > b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 > in San Jose, Santa > > Clara Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an > alcalde in California > > under Mexican rule. He had been a member of the > Missouri State > > legislature, and in California became President of > the California > > Society of Pioneers. He also was associated with > Jesse & Frank James' > > uncle Drury Woodson James, also a cattleman, who > founded Paso Robles, > > CA. > > > > It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from > until the marriage > > of his father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was > discovered in the > > Hihn-Younger archives at Santa Cruz College in > California a couple in > > 2002. The question now remains, what is the > ancestry of Sarah Sullivan > > Purcell? Nothing more is known of her, other than > what I've stated. > > Does anyone know? > > > > ERIC JAMES > > Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 > www.ericjames.org > > > > Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Judith Purcell > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. > > (brothers) > > > > Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, > but just try and > > find the connection. Jesse James was in KY but > the family came much > > later than the Purcells. > > If there is family tie there it is not an obvious > one.--Judi > > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just > > picked up information > > > along the way because of the Belle Starr > > connection to my ex-in-law's > > > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 > > husband Rolly Bollin > > > were "colorful" characters!!! > > > > > > You might also be interested to know that Cole > > Younger & the Dulins > > > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger > & > > sister to Henry. > > > Always found that interesting but not > surprising. > > > Don't know--but it > > > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also > > connected. The Youngers, > > > the Dulins & the James all form the same area > of > > Ky-just before they > > > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > > > Samuels, don't know now > > > who his father was. > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas > > and James Sr. > > > (brothers) > > > > > > > > > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I > > have > > > a bit on them. > > > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that > family. > > > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > > > committed fornication with Mary > > > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was > fined > > > 30s. and ordered to give > > > > security to keep the county from any charge by > > > means of his bastard child > > > > called Alexander." > > > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it > is > > a > > > bit large for list. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > > Thomas > > > and James Sr. > > > > (brothers) > > > > > > > > > > > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > > > Leighton Fristoe were > > > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole > Younger > > > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > > > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings > the > > > Youngers moved to > > > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have > seen > > > articles about the > > > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. > > and > > > Cole had a black half > > > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > > > >> > > > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > > > Maybelle Shirley's dau > > > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra > Maybelle > > > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > > > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. > John > > & > > > Myra had a son Ed, too, > > > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr > > in > > > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > > > >> area (the same area as my > > > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > > > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > > > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > > > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > > > (don't ask me how she got > > > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle > > for > > > Belle > > > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > > > were supposidly friends. > > > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn > raising > > > when Belle shot Sam > > > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was > > told > > > this years ago by > > > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > > > tall tale"!! Was very > > > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > > > Starr in a magazine (IE: > > > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > > > don't remember which) > > > >> which related the incident as well as other > > > things. > > > >> > > > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto > > pony > > > across the Indian > > > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > > > speak a word of English. > > > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, > Cherokee > > > Nation, OK & are > > > >> buried at Eufalia. > > > >> > > > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry > Yoder-- > > I > > > married their > > > >> son. > > > >> > > > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all > kinds > > > of things!!! > > > >> > > > >> Mary Yoder > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Judith Purcell" > > <[email protected]> > > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > > > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > > > Thomas and James Sr. > > > >> (brothers) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything > on > > > Sarah > > > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back > to > > > you > > > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > > > Henry > > > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and > > Charles > > > must > > > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > > > Indiana. > > > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > > > most > > > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > > > Purcells > > > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > > > Sullivan. A > > > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > > > middle > > > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who > would > > > have > > > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his > day > > > though > > > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. > He > > > was an > > > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for > the > > Americans, > > > >>> considered a traditor because he > > > helped the > > > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't > > be > > > of > > > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > > > Sullivan > > > >>>> Purcell. > > > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most > > are > > > in > > > >>>> there twice once as > > > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > > > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. > 4, > > > 1796. > > > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > > > Twain? > > > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > > > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > > > >>>> Dave > > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > > > <[email protected]> > > > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > > > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > > Thomas > > > and > > > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell > (Pursley, > > > etc.) > > > >>>> were > > > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife > Keziah > > Hite?)lived in > > > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. > > > These > > > >>>> sons > > > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > > > Another > > > >>>> son, > > > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick > > (Allegany), > > > >>>> County > > > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found > > just > > > >>>> across > > > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, > VA > > > around > > > >>>> > 1750. > > > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > > > County > > > >>>> with > > > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > > > children > > > >>>> Isaac > > > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > > > Bullitt > > > >>>> County; > > > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived > Bullitt > > > >>>> County; > > > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of > Hezekiah > > > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > > > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible > other > > > >>>> chidren of > > > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL > who > > > >>>> married > > > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan > > PURCELL > > > who > > > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > > > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > > > (Biggerstaff?) and > > > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth > lived > > > in > > > >>>> Nelson > > > >>>> > County. > > > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > > > interest > > > >>>> in > > > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > > > >>>> Counties.--Judith > > > >>>> > Purcell > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > > > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up information along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my ex-in-law's family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin were "colorful" characters!!! You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. Always found that interesting but not surprising. Don't know--but it wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The Youngers, the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before they all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. Samuels, don't know now who his father was. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have a bit on them. > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 committed fornication with Mary > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined 30s. and ordered to give > security to keep the county from any charge by means of his bastard child > called Alexander." > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a bit large for list. > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba Leighton Fristoe were >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger (Thomas Cole?? Have never >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the Youngers moved to >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen articles about the >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and Cole had a black half >> sister (documented if you care to check). >> >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra Maybelle Shirley's dau >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & Myra had a son Ed, too, >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in Ok; lived in the Eufalia >> area (the same area as my Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My daus' GGm Minnie Belle >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL (don't ask me how she got >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for Belle >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey were supposidly friends. >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising when Belle shot Sam >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told this years ago by >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a tall tale"!! Was very >> surprised when I read an article about Belle Starr in a magazine (IE: >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but don't remember which) >> which related the incident as well as other things. >> >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony across the Indian >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't speak a word of English. >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee Nation, OK & are >> buried at Eufalia. >> >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I married their >> son. >> >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds of things!!! >> >> Mary Yoder >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. >> (brothers) >> >> >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on Sarah >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to you >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a Henry >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles must >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in Indiana. >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the most >>> likely connection with this couple and the Purcells >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor Sullivan. A >>> younger descendant told me that she said her middle >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would have >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day though >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He was an >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the >>> Americans, considered a traditor because he helped the >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be of >>> more help. Judi Purcell >>> >>> >>> >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah Sullivan >>>> Purcell. >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are in >>>> there twice once as >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, 1796. >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark Twain? >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >>>> Dave >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >>>> >>>> >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, etc.) >>>> were >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah >>>> > Hite?)lived in Frederick County, Maryland. These >>>> sons >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. Another >>>> son, >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), >>>> County >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just >>>> across >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA around >>>> > 1750. >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt County >>>> with >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had children >>>> Isaac >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 Bullitt >>>> County; >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >>>> County; >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >>>> LARD/LAIRD >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >>>> chidren of >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >>>> married >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL who >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna (Biggerstaff?) and >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived in >>>> Nelson >>>> > County. >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has interest >>>> in >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >>>> Counties.--Judith >>>> > Purcell >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > __________________________________________________ >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >>>> protection around >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >>> >> >> > >

Eric-- If Sarah Sullivan was born in Lincoln County, Ky (if I am reading correctly) then it is doubtful she would be a daughter of Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor Sullivan located in Nelson/Bullitt County, KY in 1780. Thomas Purcell had 400 acres of land there surveyed by Daniel Sullivan (bro. to Elenor). Sorry I was not able to find more through my research in trying to find the Purcell connection. I did not find anything in Clark County, Indiana regarding Purcells except for this marriage. But anyone should feel free to check as certainly a more in-depth research might turn up something. I have tried to contact anyone who states as a fact that she was daughter of Thomas and Elenor (Sullivan) Purcell but so far no answers. Maybe your query will bring something to light. I think I will stop including her as a possible daughter in light of the Lincoln County, Kentucky information. Thomas Purcell did have a daugther name Catherine Sullivan Purcell who married Hezekiah Lard in Nelson County, KY and later a James in St. Louis, MO. Sorry I don't have the James information with me, but will say there appeared to be no connection to Jesse James. Judi --- Eric James <[email protected]> wrote: > As long as you've stumbled across the > Purcell-Younger connection, here's > some information, followed by a query. > > Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co > KY, d. Nov 12, 1854, > Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the > Younger brothers associated > with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, > Col. Henry Washington > Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah > Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab > Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co > Mo. The marriage occurred > on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was > performed by Rev. James > Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. > Coleman Purcell Younger, > b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 > in San Jose, Santa Clara > Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in > California under Mexican > rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State > legislature, and in > California became President of the California > Society of Pioneers. He also > was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury > Woodson James, also a > cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. > > It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from > until the marriage of his > father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in > the Hihn-Younger archives > at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in > 2002. The question now > remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan > Purcell? Nothing more is > known of her, other than what I've stated. Does > anyone know? > > ERIC JAMES > Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 > www.ericjames.org > > Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith Purcell > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. (brothers) > > Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, > but just try and find the > connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family > came much later than the > Purcells. > If there is family tie there it is not an obvious > one.--Judi > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just > picked up information > > along the way because of the Belle Starr > connection to my ex-in-law's > > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 > husband Rolly Bollin > > were "colorful" characters!!! > > > > You might also be interested to know that Cole > Younger & the Dulins > > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & > sister to Henry. > > Always found that interesting but not surprising. > > Don't know--but it > > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also > connected. The Youngers, > > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of > Ky-just before they > > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > > Samuels, don't know now > > who his father was. > > > > Mary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. > > (brothers) > > > > > > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I > have > > a bit on them. > > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. > > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > > committed fornication with Mary > > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined > > 30s. and ordered to give > > > security to keep the county from any charge by > > means of his bastard child > > > called Alexander." > > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is > a > > bit large for list. > > > Dave > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas > > and James Sr. > > > (brothers) > > > > > > > > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > > Leighton Fristoe were > > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger > > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the > > Youngers moved to > > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen > > articles about the > > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. > and > > Cole had a black half > > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > > >> > > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > > Maybelle Shirley's dau > > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle > > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John > & > > Myra had a son Ed, too, > > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr > in > > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > > >> area (the same area as my > > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > > (don't ask me how she got > > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle > for > > Belle > > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > > were supposidly friends. > > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising > > when Belle shot Sam > > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was > told > > this years ago by > > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > > tall tale"!! Was very > > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > > Starr in a magazine (IE: > > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > > don't remember which) > > >> which related the incident as well as other > > things. > > >> > > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto > pony > > across the Indian > > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > > speak a word of English. > > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee > > Nation, OK & are > > >> buried at Eufalia. > > >> > > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- > I > > married their > > >> son. > > >> > > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds > > of things!!! > > >> > > >> Mary Yoder > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Judith Purcell" > <[email protected]> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > > Thomas and James Sr. > > >> (brothers) > > >> > > >> > > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on > > Sarah > > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to > > you > > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > > Henry > > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and > Charles > > must > > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > > Indiana. > > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > > most > > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > > Purcells > > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > > Sullivan. A > > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > > middle > > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would > > have > > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day > > though > > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He > > was an > > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the > Americans, > > >>> considered a traditor because he > > helped the > > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't > be > > of > > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > > Sullivan > > >>>> Purcell. > > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most > are > > in > > >>>> there twice once as > > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, > > 1796. > > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > > Twain? > > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > > >>>> Dave > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > > <[email protected]> > > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas > > and > > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, > > etc.) > > >>>> were > > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah > Hite?)lived in > > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. > > These > > >>>> sons > > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > > Another > > >>>> son, > > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick > (Allegany), > > >>>> County > > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found > just > > >>>> across > > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA > > around > > >>>> > 1750. > > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > > County > > >>>> with > > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > > children > > >>>> Isaac > > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > > Bullitt > > >>>> County; > > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt > > >>>> County; > > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah > > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other > > >>>> chidren of > > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who > > >>>> married > > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan > PURCELL > > who > > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > > (Biggerstaff?) and > > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived > > in > > >>>> Nelson > > >>>> > County. > > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > > interest > > >>>> in > > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > > >>>> Counties.--Judith > > >>>> > Purcell > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > __________________________________________________ > > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best > spam > > >>>> protection around > > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > __________________________________________________ > > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find the connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than the Purcells. If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi --- [email protected] wrote: > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just > picked up information > along the way because of the Belle Starr connection > to my ex-in-law's > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 > husband Rolly Bollin > were "colorful" characters!!! > > You might also be interested to know that Cole > Younger & the Dulins > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & > sister to Henry. > Always found that interesting but not surprising. > Don't know--but it > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also > connected. The Youngers, > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of > Ky-just before they > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > Samuels, don't know now > who his father was. > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. (brothers) > > > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have > a bit on them. > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > committed fornication with Mary > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined > 30s. and ordered to give > > security to keep the county from any charge by > means of his bastard child > > called Alexander." > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a > bit large for list. > > Dave > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. > > (brothers) > > > > > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > Leighton Fristoe were > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the > Youngers moved to > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen > articles about the > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and > Cole had a black half > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > >> > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > Maybelle Shirley's dau > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & > Myra had a son Ed, too, > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > >> area (the same area as my > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > (don't ask me how she got > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for > Belle > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > were supposidly friends. > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising > when Belle shot Sam > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told > this years ago by > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > tall tale"!! Was very > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > Starr in a magazine (IE: > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > don't remember which) > >> which related the incident as well as other > things. > >> > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony > across the Indian > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > speak a word of English. > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee > Nation, OK & are > >> buried at Eufalia. > >> > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I > married their > >> son. > >> > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds > of things!!! > >> > >> Mary Yoder > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas and James Sr. > >> (brothers) > >> > >> > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on > Sarah > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to > you > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > Henry > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles > must > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > Indiana. > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > most > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > Purcells > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > Sullivan. A > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > middle > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would > have > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day > though > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He > was an > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the > >>> Americans, considered a traditor because he > helped the > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be > of > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > Sullivan > >>>> Purcell. > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are > in > >>>> there twice once as > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, > 1796. > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > Twain? > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > >>>> Dave > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > <[email protected]> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, > etc.) > >>>> were > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah > >>>> > Hite?)lived in Frederick County, Maryland. > These > >>>> sons > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > Another > >>>> son, > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), > >>>> County > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just > >>>> across > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA > around > >>>> > 1750. > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > County > >>>> with > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > children > >>>> Isaac > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > Bullitt > >>>> County; > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt > >>>> County; > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other > >>>> chidren of > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who > >>>> married > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL > who > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > (Biggerstaff?) and > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived > in > >>>> Nelson > >>>> > County. > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > interest > >>>> in > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > >>>> Counties.--Judith > >>>> > Purcell > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > __________________________________________________ > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > >>>> protection around > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Mary -- I think you are pretty close on your time line except I would say Daniel Purcell b. 1720 to 1730 as he got land in Hampshire County about 1750. Had not seen Rev. War Service for him. Thanks!! Also, the brothers Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. Purcell did serve under George Rogers Clark out of Kentucky. This was in the Indian Expeditions to Indiana 1780 (all three), and later (1781 - 1783) for a couple of them. This service is considered Revolutionary and was accepted for Thomas Purcell by DAR. The reason is that Indians were incited and encourged by the English to take American scalps and they were attacking the Kentucky frontier to such an extent something had to be done. This was when Kentucky was included in VA and records are there. Lots of good history available. Later service can be found elsewhere, but no Purcells after that. I think you are right with time range for the sons of Daniel. It is good to put a range rather than an approximate date as there was another Thomas Purcell b about 1750 and I don't want people to confuse the two. They were the only Purcell family we found in Frederick County (Allegany), Maryland at the time. I have some family information on the Youngers but didn't research that myself. Yes, take it with a grain of salt. It is speculation at this point. I found Family Forums under genforum.genealogy.com/ for both Purcell and Younger. Under Purcell Family Forum someone has Sarah Purcell b. 1788 KY and d. before 11 Jan 1859 Clay County, MO. for the Sarah that married Charles Younger. Suppose she was in the 1850 census? I will not add more here as that would be duplicating something that would easy to get from that source. -- Judi --- [email protected] wrote: > Correction!!! > > Should have said Charles' son Henry b 1810-- son > Cole was born 1844 (d 1916 > of a heart attack--d in MO). > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:46 AM > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. (brothers) > > > > Trees on rootsweb.com gives Charles Younger with > at least 4 wives-- > > one of them being Sarah Purcell. Another wife was > a Hatfield "of the > > feuding Hatfields of W Va & Ky" (which was much > later!!!) Check them out > > & take with a grain of salt until you prove the > data!!! > > > > We are tossing out all these names & very few > dates. > > > > I ASSUME Daniel Purcell b ca 1730-40 since he was > in the Indian Wars > > pre-dating the Rev War/Rev War?? I ASSUME Dennis, > James Jr & Thomas > > Purcell b ca 1750-60? to be in Jefferson/Nelson Co > by 1784. Haven't seen > > any Rev War service for them yet- so MAY not have > served???) I ASSUME > > Charles Younger b ca 177-ish??? (next gen down) > because son Cole b 1810 (d > > 1916 Mo- was one of the youngest sons). > > > > How is my time line?? > > > > Mary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and James Sr. > > (brothers) > > > > > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > Leighton Fristoe were > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the > Youngers moved to > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen > articles about the > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and > Cole had a black half > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > >> > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > Maybelle Shirley's dau > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & > Myra had a son Ed, too, > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > >> area (the same area as my > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > (don't ask me how she got > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for > Belle > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > were supposidly friends. > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising > when Belle shot Sam > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told > this years ago by > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > tall tale"!! Was very > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > Starr in a magazine (IE: > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > don't remember which) > >> which related the incident as well as other > things. > >> > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony > across the Indian > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > speak a word of English. > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee > Nation, OK & are > >> buried at Eufalia. > >> > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I > married their > >> son. > >> > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds > of things!!! > >> > >> Mary Yoder > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > Thomas and James Sr. > >> (brothers) > >> > >> > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on > Sarah > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to > you > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > Henry > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles > must > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > Indiana. > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > most > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > Purcells > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > Sullivan. A > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > middle > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would > have > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day > though > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He > was an > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the > >>> Americans, considered a traditor because he > helped the > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be > of > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > Sullivan > >>>> Purcell. > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are > in > >>>> there twice once as > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, > 1796. > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > Twain? > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > >>>> Dave > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > <[email protected]> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > and > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, > etc.) > >>>> were > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah > >>>> > Hite?)lived in Frederick County, Maryland. > These > >>>> sons > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > Another > >>>> son, > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), > >>>> County > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just > >>>> across > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA > around > >>>> > 1750. > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > County > >>>> with > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > children > >>>> Isaac > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > Bullitt > >>>> County; > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt > >>>> County; > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other > >>>> chidren of > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who > >>>> married > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL > who > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > (Biggerstaff?) and > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived > in > >>>> Nelson > >>>> > County. > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > interest > >>>> in > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > >>>> Counties.--Judith > >>>> > Purcell > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > __________________________________________________ > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > >>>> protection around > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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If you are interested in the Younger Family I have a bit on them. Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 committed fornication with Mary Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined 30s. and ordered to give security to keep the county from any charge by means of his bastard child called Alexander." If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a bit large for list. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba Leighton Fristoe were > the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger (Thomas Cole?? Have never > seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the Youngers moved to Mo--there > is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen articles about the Youngers. Henry > owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and Cole had a black half sister (documented > if you care to check). > > Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra Maybelle Shirley's dau > Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & Myra had a son Ed, too, > who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in Ok; lived in the Eufalia > area (the same area as my Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys lived > in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My daus' GGm Minnie Belle Ramsey Tague > Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL (don't ask me how she got there from > Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for Belle > Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey were supposidly friends. > The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising when Belle shot Sam > in the foot during an argument with him. Was told this years ago by > Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a tall tale"!! Was very > surprised when I read an article about Belle Starr in a magazine (IE: > True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but don't remember which) > which related the incident as well as other things. > > Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony across the Indian > Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't speak a word of English. > Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee Nation, OK & are > buried at Eufalia. > > Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I married their > son. > > Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds of things!!! > > Mary Yoder > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > >> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on Sarah >> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to you >> later. By memory I can tell you there was a Henry >> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles must >> have run off to Indiana to get married in Indiana. >> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the most >> likely connection with this couple and the Purcells >> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor Sullivan. A >> younger descendant told me that she said her middle >> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would have >> been her uncle was very well known in his day though >> some might say as much infamous as famous. He was an >> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the >> Americans, considered a traditor because he helped the >> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be of >> more help. Judi Purcell >> >> >> >> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah Sullivan >>> Purcell. >>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are in >>> there twice once as >>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, 1796. >>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark Twain? >>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >>> in Tom Sawyer. >>> Dave >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and >>> James Sr. (brothers) >>> >>> >>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, etc.) >>> were >>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah >>> > Hite?)lived in Frederick County, Maryland. These >>> sons >>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. Another >>> son, >>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), >>> County >>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just >>> across >>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA around >>> > 1750. >>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt County >>> with >>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had children >>> Isaac >>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 Bullitt >>> County; >>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >>> County; >>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >>> LARD/LAIRD >>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >>> chidren of >>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >>> married >>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL who >>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna (Biggerstaff?) and >>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived in >>> Nelson >>> > County. >>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has interest >>> in >>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >>> Counties.--Judith >>> > Purcell >>> > >>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ >>> > Do You Yahoo!? >>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Correction!!! Should have said Charles' son Henry b 1810-- son Cole was born 1844 (d 1916 of a heart attack--d in MO). ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > Trees on rootsweb.com gives Charles Younger with at least 4 wives-- > one of them being Sarah Purcell. Another wife was a Hatfield "of the > feuding Hatfields of W Va & Ky" (which was much later!!!) Check them out > & take with a grain of salt until you prove the data!!! > > We are tossing out all these names & very few dates. > > I ASSUME Daniel Purcell b ca 1730-40 since he was in the Indian Wars > pre-dating the Rev War/Rev War?? I ASSUME Dennis, James Jr & Thomas > Purcell b ca 1750-60? to be in Jefferson/Nelson Co by 1784. Haven't seen > any Rev War service for them yet- so MAY not have served???) I ASSUME > Charles Younger b ca 177-ish??? (next gen down) because son Cole b 1810 (d > 1916 Mo- was one of the youngest sons). > > How is my time line?? > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba Leighton Fristoe were >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger (Thomas Cole?? Have never >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the Youngers moved to >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen articles about the >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and Cole had a black half >> sister (documented if you care to check). >> >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra Maybelle Shirley's dau >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & Myra had a son Ed, too, >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in Ok; lived in the Eufalia >> area (the same area as my Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My daus' GGm Minnie Belle >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL (don't ask me how she got >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for Belle >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey were supposidly friends. >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising when Belle shot Sam >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told this years ago by >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a tall tale"!! Was very >> surprised when I read an article about Belle Starr in a magazine (IE: >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but don't remember which) >> which related the incident as well as other things. >> >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony across the Indian >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't speak a word of English. >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee Nation, OK & are >> buried at Eufalia. >> >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I married their >> son. >> >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds of things!!! >> >> Mary Yoder >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. >> (brothers) >> >> >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on Sarah >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to you >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a Henry >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles must >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in Indiana. >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the most >>> likely connection with this couple and the Purcells >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor Sullivan. A >>> younger descendant told me that she said her middle >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would have >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day though >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He was an >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the >>> Americans, considered a traditor because he helped the >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be of >>> more help. Judi Purcell >>> >>> >>> >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah Sullivan >>>> Purcell. >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are in >>>> there twice once as >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, 1796. >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark Twain? >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >>>> Dave >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >>>> >>>> >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, etc.) >>>> were >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah >>>> > Hite?)lived in Frederick County, Maryland. These >>>> sons >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. Another >>>> son, >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), >>>> County >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just >>>> across >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA around >>>> > 1750. >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt County >>>> with >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had children >>>> Isaac >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 Bullitt >>>> County; >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >>>> County; >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >>>> LARD/LAIRD >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >>>> chidren of >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >>>> married >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL who >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna (Biggerstaff?) and >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived in >>>> Nelson >>>> > County. >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has interest >>>> in >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >>>> Counties.--Judith >>>> > Purcell >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > __________________________________________________ >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >>>> protection around >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >

Trees on rootsweb.com gives Charles Younger with at least 4 wives-- one of them being Sarah Purcell. Another wife was a Hatfield "of the feuding Hatfields of W Va & Ky" (which was much later!!!) Check them out & take with a grain of salt until you prove the data!!! We are tossing out all these names & very few dates. I ASSUME Daniel Purcell b ca 1730-40 since he was in the Indian Wars pre-dating the Rev War/Rev War?? I ASSUME Dennis, James Jr & Thomas Purcell b ca 1750-60? to be in Jefferson/Nelson Co by 1784. Haven't seen any Rev War service for them yet- so MAY not have served???) I ASSUME Charles Younger b ca 177-ish??? (next gen down) because son Cole b 1810 (d 1916 Mo- was one of the youngest sons). How is my time line?? Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba Leighton Fristoe were > the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger (Thomas Cole?? Have never > seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the Youngers moved to Mo--there > is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen articles about the Youngers. Henry > owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and Cole had a black half sister (documented > if you care to check). > > Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra Maybelle Shirley's dau > Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & Myra had a son Ed, too, > who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in Ok; lived in the Eufalia > area (the same area as my Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys lived > in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My daus' GGm Minnie Belle Ramsey Tague > Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL (don't ask me how she got there from > Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for Belle > Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey were supposidly friends. > The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising when Belle shot Sam > in the foot during an argument with him. Was told this years ago by > Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a tall tale"!! Was very > surprised when I read an article about Belle Starr in a magazine (IE: > True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but don't remember which) > which related the incident as well as other things. > > Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony across the Indian > Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't speak a word of English. > Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee Nation, OK & are > buried at Eufalia. > > Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I married their > son. > > Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds of things!!! > > Mary Yoder > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > >> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on Sarah >> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to you >> later. By memory I can tell you there was a Henry >> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles must >> have run off to Indiana to get married in Indiana. >> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the most >> likely connection with this couple and the Purcells >> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor Sullivan. A >> younger descendant told me that she said her middle >> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would have >> been her uncle was very well known in his day though >> some might say as much infamous as famous. He was an >> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the >> Americans, considered a traditor because he helped the >> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be of >> more help. Judi Purcell >> >> >> >> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah Sullivan >>> Purcell. >>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are in >>> there twice once as >>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, 1796. >>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark Twain? >>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >>> in Tom Sawyer. >>> Dave >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and >>> James Sr. (brothers) >>> >>> >>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, etc.) >>> were >>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah >>> > Hite?)lived in Frederick County, Maryland. These >>> sons >>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. Another >>> son, >>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), >>> County >>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just >>> across >>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA around >>> > 1750. >>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt County >>> with >>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had children >>> Isaac >>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 Bullitt >>> County; >>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >>> County; >>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >>> LARD/LAIRD >>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >>> chidren of >>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >>> married >>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL who >>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna (Biggerstaff?) and >>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived in >>> Nelson >>> > County. >>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has interest >>> in >>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >>> Counties.--Judith >>> > Purcell >>> > >>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ >>> > Do You Yahoo!? >>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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