Pat Craven passed away yesterday. She will be remembered for the work she did in the old records room.

thanks for letting us know. Carlene

I have a George W. Howard who married Mary Ann Burch on 9-5-1818. I have six children: James Ronymus Howard b. 1819 Mary Aloyada Howard b. 1820 Sylvester Howard b.1823 Theresa Elizabeth Howard b.1827 Gregory Howard b.1828 John Walter Howard b.1836 I am in process of rebuilding after computer crash so some of information is sketchy.

That's what I have. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] George Howard and Mary Ann Burch I have a George W. Howard who married Mary Ann Burch on 9-5-1818. I have six children: James Ronymus Howard b. 1819 Mary Aloyada Howard b. 1820 Sylvester Howard b.1823 Theresa Elizabeth Howard b.1827 Gregory Howard b.1828 John Walter Howard b.1836 I am in process of rebuilding after computer crash so some of information is sketchy.

Hello List, Thanks to Patricia Morano and others who caught my mistake. Earlier today I wrote that we visited Lincolns homeplace in Lincoln City, IN and I said that Nancy Hanks Lincoln, Abraham Lincolns first wife, is buried there in a cemetery I meant to say that his mother Nancy Hanks Lincoln was buried there, not his first wife. Thanks for catching my error..........I was thinking one thing, and wrote another. Dottie Porter Himes Dottie Himes Lewisport, KY 42351 [email protected] I love my Family, Genealogy is Addictive but Fun: SURNAMES: Heim, Himes, Ahlers, Shroyer, Swadener /Burch, Clements, Hagan, Hutchins, Porter /Hayden, Mulligan,Young, and many more. -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 06/04/05 20:12:49 To: Dottie Himes Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Nancy Hanks Lincoln I'm sure someone else has already told you that Nancy Hanks was not his wife. Pat Morano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dottie Himes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Nancy Hanks Lincoln > Re discussion of the Lincolns > > We visited Lincoln City, IN where there is a replica of Lincolns home > after > they moved from KY. > If I remember right, Nancy Hanks Lincoln, Abraham Lincolns first wife, is > buried there in a cemetery. > > If anyong lives close, there is a nice Visitors building with lots of nice > pictures, movie, and then > a short stroll to the cemetery and the setting with the replica of the > Lincoln home and buildings. > It is not elaborate but a nice day trip. > > Dottie Porter Himes > > > > Dottie Himes > Lewisport, KY 42351 > [email protected] > > I love my Family, Genealogy is Addictive but Fun: SURNAMES: Heim, Himes, > Ahlers, Shroyer, Swadener /Burch, Clements, Hagan, Hutchins, Porter > /Hayden, > Mulligan,Young, and many more. > -------Original Message------- > > From: [email protected] > Date: 06/04/05 08:24:58 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > Thomas Lincoln m Nancy Hanks 1806 Washington Co, Ky. He is > buried in a country churchyard cem just south of Charleston, Coles, IL. > Do not know where Sarah Bush Johnson Lincoln is buried; don't know if > she is with him or not. Found his tombstone a number of years ago. > > Thomas & Nancy may have married in Washington Co, Ky but they lived > in the Hodgenville area of Hardin Co until they moved to IN (where > Nancy died). Thomas returned to Hardin Co & married Sarah Bush > Johnson, d/o Christopher Bush (ca 1819-ish). > > There were other Hanks in Hardin Co, too, who moved into Grayson & > Breckenridge Cos. Sarah Lee Hanks, Nancy's mother, married Henry Sparrow > in > Mercer Co, Ky. A Sparrow also married in to one of a Jenkins Family I am > researching in the Nelson/Hardin Cos area of Ky. > > When researching families in the Nelson/Hardin Co area of Ky--one > picks up all kinds of data!!!! > > Mary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:03 PM > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > >> As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, here's >> some information, followed by a query. >> >> Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, 1854, >> Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers >> associated >> with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry >> Washington >> Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 >> Crab >> Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage >> occurred >> on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. >> James >> Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell >> Younger, >> b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa >> Clara >> Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under Mexican >> rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in >> California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He >> also >> was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, also >> a >> cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. >> >> It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage of >> his >> father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger >> archives >> at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now >> remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is >> known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? >> >> ERIC JAMES >> Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 >> www.ericjames.org >> >> Col Younger and Sarah Purcell >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. >> (brothers) >> >> Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find >> the >> connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than the >> Purcells. >> If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi >> >> --- [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up information >>> along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my ex-in-law's >>> family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin >>> were "colorful" characters!!! >>> >>> You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins >>> were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. >>> Always found that interesting but not surprising. >>> Don't know--but it >>> wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The Youngers, >>> the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before they >>> all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. >>> Samuels, don't know now >>> who his father was. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM >>> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. >>> (brothers) >>> >>> >>> > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have >>> a bit on them. >>> > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. >>> > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 >>> committed fornication with Mary >>> > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined >>> 30s. and ordered to give >>> > security to keep the county from any charge by >>> means of his bastard child >>> > called Alexander." >>> > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a >>> bit large for list. >>> > Dave >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: <[email protected]> >>> > To: <[email protected]> >>> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM >>> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >>> and James Sr. >>> > (brothers) >>> > >>> > >>> >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba >>> Leighton Fristoe were >>> >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger >>> (Thomas Cole?? Have never >>> >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the >>> Youngers moved to >>> >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen >>> articles about the >>> >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and >>> Cole had a black half >>> >> sister (documented if you care to check). >>> >> >>> >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra >>> Maybelle Shirley's dau >>> >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle >>> (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >>> >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & >>> Myra had a son Ed, too, >>> >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in >>> Ok; lived in the Eufalia >>> >> area (the same area as my >>> Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >>> >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My >>> daus' GGm Minnie Belle >>> >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL >>> (don't ask me how she got >>> >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for >>> Belle >>> >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey >>> were supposidly friends. >>> >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising >>> when Belle shot Sam >>> >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told >>> this years ago by >>> >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a >>> tall tale"!! Was very >>> >> surprised when I read an article about Belle >>> Starr in a magazine (IE: >>> >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but >>> don't remember which) >>> >> which related the incident as well as other >>> things. >>> >> >>> >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony >>> across the Indian >>> >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't >>> speak a word of English. >>> >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee >>> Nation, OK & are >>> >> buried at Eufalia. >>> >> >>> >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I >>> married their >>> >> son. >>> >> >>> >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds >>> of things!!! >>> >> >>> >> Mary Yoder >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >>> >> To: <[email protected]> >>> >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >>> >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >>> Thomas and James Sr. >>> >> (brothers) >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on >>> Sarah >>> >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to >>> you >>> >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a >>> Henry >>> >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles >>> must >>> >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in >>> Indiana. >>> >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the >>> most >>> >>> likely connection with this couple and the >>> Purcells >>> >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor >>> Sullivan. A >>> >>> younger descendant told me that she said her >>> middle >>> >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would >>> have >>> >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day >>> though >>> >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He >>> was an >>> >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, >>> >>> considered a traditor because he >>> helped the >>> >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be >>> of >>> >>> more help. Judi Purcell >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah >>> Sullivan >>> >>>> Purcell. >>> >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are >>> in >>> >>>> there twice once as >>> >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >>> >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, >>> 1796. >>> >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark >>> Twain? >>> >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >>> >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >>> >>>> Dave >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" >>> <[email protected]> >>> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >>> >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >>> and >>> >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, >>> etc.) >>> >>>> were >>> >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in >>> >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. >>> These >>> >>>> sons >>> >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. >>> Another >>> >>>> son, >>> >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), >>> >>>> County >>> >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just >>> >>>> across >>> >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA >>> around >>> >>>> > 1750. >>> >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt >>> County >>> >>>> with >>> >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had >>> children >>> >>>> Isaac >>> >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 >>> Bullitt >>> >>>> County; >>> >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >>> >>>> County; >>> >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >>> >>>> LARD/LAIRD >>> >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >>> >>>> chidren of >>> >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >>> >>>> married >>> >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL >>> who >>> >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >>> >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna >>> (Biggerstaff?) and >>> >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived >>> in >>> >>>> Nelson >>> >>>> > County. >>> >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has >>> interest >>> >>>> in >>> >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >>> >>>> Counties.--Judith >>> >>>> > Purcell >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >>> >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >>> >>>> protection around >>> >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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The Jeffersonville Library (812-282-7765) has Charles Younger married to Sarah Sullivan Percell Clark Co IN. 8-21-1807 by James Lemon and that's all. The New Albany Library in Floyd Co. IN. will also look to see if a couple married in Floyd Co. (812-949-3527) Dottie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYNELSON-L] re: Younger/Percell Yes, the mg record for Charles Younger & Sarah Sullivan Percell is in Clark Co, IN-- m 8-21-1807. Do not know what it says but mg is listed in the index of mgs to 1850 on the IN State Lib web site. Other Younger mgs, too but none as early as Charles'.

Kathie, The one page copy from a book I have may explain the James family origin you referred to. I had an email ready to go with names of childen and spouses, etc.which included the earliest from Scotland down to Henry and Beersheba and my computer popped up and said -Error in somthing or other- I lost the email. If you want more info will try again. From the article--Three brothers came from Scotland: Alexander, Andre, *Thomas. Thomas had a son *Humphrey b1680 will probated 1740 Kent Co. Md. who married Mary ___. Their children were *John Humphrey, James, Thomas. *John married Sarah Kennard (Mary Pearce left a will probated Kent Co. Md. 1743 naming Sarah Kennard daughter. Phillip Kennard left will naming wife Sarah___1739 Kent Co. Md. Vital rec. show that Philip Kennard had grandsons John and James Younger. Children of John Younger and Sarah Kennard were Thomas, Joseph, Elizabeth, Kennard, John,*Joshua born 5-11-1752, Henry and James. The line continues with; Joshua Younger b 5-11-1752 Hampshire Co Va. died 8-2-1834 Lawrence Co. Va. mar Elizabeth Lee Charles Lee Younger b 1783 mar Sarah S. Purcell Henry (Harry) Washington Younger b 1812 mar Beersheba Fristoe Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Kathleen Felsted" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] James > Hi Mary, > I did check out his site! Very awesome! http://www.ericjames.org/ I see > many of my family names there - so I will be spending some time perusing > through these.... > It looks like he has his earliest James in southern VA 1725 ish. These guys > could have also been Scotch-Irish (rough and tumble type people... I think > many of mine were these). Quakers, Germans, Scotch-Irish all migrated down > the Shenandoah Valley corridor trying to find land, get away from religious > persecution, etc. Many then fanned out into Kentucky or NC then into KY or > Tenn., etc. > Now, if I can get as half as knowledgeable as many on these Kentucky lists, > I would be happy! > Kathie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] James > > > | Kathie, > | > | Check out Eric James' web site!!!! It is really great!!! Have only barely > | scratched the surface there but have found very important data!!! > | > | Hope you have as much luck & can fill Eric in on your line. > | Mary > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "M. Kathleen Felsted" <[email protected]> > | To: <[email protected]> > | Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:43 AM > | Subject: [KYNELSON-L] James > | > | > | > When I was researching my Hanks line in Muskingum and Coshocton County, > | > Ohio, a James family member told me that their James family was related > to > | > the James Brothers. Who knows if this is true? These former Quaker > | > families > | > (James, Hanks, and others) came from Loudoun County, Virginia to Ohio in > | > about 1815. Some of these Quakers came down from eastern Pennsylvania > in > | > 1750-60s (Jackson, Janney, etc)and others (like the Hanks) came from > | > Virginia to Maryland and converted to Quakerism there. The Quakers did > not > | > last long in Virginia due to religious issues, so they scattered other > | > places. Some families went west to Ohio and changed religions, some > | > remained Quakers and went to the Bedford Co., Pennsylvania area and > others > | > (like my Jackson line) disappeared other places - probably Kentucky or > | > further south, following the typical migration route (along I-81) into > | > southern Virginia, North Carolina, etc. > | > James only married into my Hanks, so I don't have much on them. > Earliest > | > I > | > have is a James James (b. abt 1775) who married Sarah Hanks about 1800? > | > The > | > original James might have been Quakers in Pennsylvania. > | > Just a thought! > | > Kathie > | > > | > ----- Original Message ----- > | > From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> > | > To: <[email protected]> > | > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:03 PM > | > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > | > (brothers) > | > > | > > | > | As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, > here's > | > | some information, followed by a query. > | > | > | > | Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, > | > 1854, > | > | Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers > | > associated > | > | with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry > | > Washington > | > | Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. > 1782 > | > Crab > | > | Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage > | > occurred > | > | on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. > | > James > | > | Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell > | > Younger, > | > | b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa > | > Clara > | > | Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under > | > Mexican > | > | rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in > | > | California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He > | > also > | > | was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, > also > | > a > | > | cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. > | > | > | > | It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage > of > | > his > | > | father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger > | > archives > | > | at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now > | > | remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more > is > | > | known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? > | > | > | > | ERIC JAMES > | > | Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 > | > | www.ericjames.org > | > | > | > | Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > | > | > | > | -----Original Message----- > | > | From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] > | > | Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > | > | To: [email protected] > | > | Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > | > (brothers) > | > | > | > | Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and > find > | > the > | > | connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than > | > the > | > | Purcells. > | > | If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi > | > | > | > | --- [email protected] wrote: > | > | > | > | > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up > information > | > | > along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my > ex-in-law's > | > | > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin > | > | > were "colorful" characters!!! > | > | > > | > | > You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins > | > | > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. > | > | > Always found that interesting but not surprising. > | > | > Don't know--but it > | > | > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The > Youngers, > | > | > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before > they > | > | > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > | > | > Samuels, don't know now > | > | > who his father was. > | > | > > | > | > Mary > | > | > > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- > | > | > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > | > | > To: <[email protected]> > | > | > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > | > | > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > | > | > (brothers) > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have > | > | > a bit on them. > | > | > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. > | > | > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > | > | > committed fornication with Mary > | > | > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined > | > | > 30s. and ordered to give > | > | > > security to keep the county from any charge by > | > | > means of his bastard child > | > | > > called Alexander." > | > | > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a > | > | > bit large for list. > | > | > > Dave > | > | > > > | > | > > ----- Original Message ----- > | > | > > From: <[email protected]> > | > | > > To: <[email protected]> > | > | > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > | > | > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > | > | > and James Sr. > | > | > > (brothers) > | > | > > > | > | > > > | > | > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > | > | > Leighton Fristoe were > | > | > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger > | > | > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > | > | > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the > | > | > Youngers moved to > | > | > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen > | > | > articles about the > | > | > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and > | > | > Cole had a black half > | > | > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > | > | > >> > | > | > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > | > | > Maybelle Shirley's dau > | > | > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle > | > | > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > | > | > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & > | > | > Myra had a son Ed, too, > | > | > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in > | > | > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > | > | > >> area (the same area as my > | > | > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > | > | > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > | > | > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > | > | > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > | > | > (don't ask me how she got > | > | > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for > | > | > Belle > | > | > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > | > | > were supposidly friends. > | > | > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising > | > | > when Belle shot Sam > | > | > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told > | > | > this years ago by > | > | > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > | > | > tall tale"!! Was very > | > | > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > | > | > Starr in a magazine (IE: > | > | > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > | > | > don't remember which) > | > | > >> which related the incident as well as other > | > | > things. > | > | > >> > | > | > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony > | > | > across the Indian > | > | > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > | > | > speak a word of English. > | > | > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee > | > | > Nation, OK & are > | > | > >> buried at Eufalia. > | > | > >> > | > | > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I > | > | > married their > | > | > >> son. > | > | > >> > | > | > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds > | > | > of things!!! > | > | > >> > | > | > >> Mary Yoder > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> ----- Original Message ----- > | > | > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > | > | > >> To: <[email protected]> > | > | > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > | > | > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > | > | > Thomas and James Sr. > | > | > >> (brothers) > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on > | > | > Sarah > | > | > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to > | > | > you > | > | > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > | > | > Henry > | > | > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles > | > | > must > | > | > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > | > | > Indiana. > | > | > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > | > | > most > | > | > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > | > | > Purcells > | > | > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > | > | > Sullivan. A > | > | > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > | > | > middle > | > | > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would > | > | > have > | > | > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day > | > | > though > | > | > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He > | > | > was an > | > | > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, > | > | > >>> considered a traditor because he > | > | > helped the > | > | > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be > | > | > of > | > | > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > | > | > >>> > | > | > >>> > | > | > >>> > | > | > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > | > | > >>> > | > | > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > | > | > Sullivan > | > | > >>>> Purcell. > | > | > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are > | > | > in > | > | > >>>> there twice once as > | > | > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > | > | > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, > | > | > 1796. > | > | > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > | > | > Twain? > | > | > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > | > | > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > | > | > >>>> Dave > | > | > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > | > | > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > | > | > <[email protected]> > | > | > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > | > | > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > | > | > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > | > | > and > | > | > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > | > | > >>>> > | > | > >>>> > | > | > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, > | > | > etc.) > | > | > >>>> were > | > | > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in > | > | > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. > | > | > These > | > | > >>>> sons > | > | > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > | > | > Another > | > | > >>>> son, > | > | > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), > | > | > >>>> County > | > | > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just > | > | > >>>> across > | > | > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA > | > | > around > | > | > >>>> > 1750. > | > | > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > | > | > County > | > | > >>>> with > | > | > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > | > | > children > | > | > >>>> Isaac > | > | > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > | > | > Bullitt > | > | > >>>> County; > | > | > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt > | > | > >>>> County; > | > | > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah > | > | > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > | > | > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other > | > | > >>>> chidren of > | > | > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who > | > | > >>>> married > | > | > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL > | > | > who > | > | > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > | > | > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > | > | > (Biggerstaff?) and > | > | > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived > | > | > in > | > | > >>>> Nelson > | > | > >>>> > County. > | > | > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > | > | > interest > | > | > >>>> in > | > | > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > | > | > >>>> Counties.--Judith > | > | > >>>> > Purcell > | > | > >>>> > > | > | > >>>> > > | > | > >>>> > > | > | > __________________________________________________ > | > | > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > | > | > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Hi Mary, I did check out his site! Very awesome! http://www.ericjames.org/ I see many of my family names there - so I will be spending some time perusing through these.... It looks like he has his earliest James in southern VA 1725 ish. These guys could have also been Scotch-Irish (rough and tumble type people... I think many of mine were these). Quakers, Germans, Scotch-Irish all migrated down the Shenandoah Valley corridor trying to find land, get away from religious persecution, etc. Many then fanned out into Kentucky or NC then into KY or Tenn., etc. Now, if I can get as half as knowledgeable as many on these Kentucky lists, I would be happy! Kathie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] James | Kathie, | | Check out Eric James' web site!!!! It is really great!!! Have only barely | scratched the surface there but have found very important data!!! | | Hope you have as much luck & can fill Eric in on your line. | Mary | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "M. Kathleen Felsted" <[email protected]> | To: <[email protected]> | Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:43 AM | Subject: [KYNELSON-L] James | | | > When I was researching my Hanks line in Muskingum and Coshocton County, | > Ohio, a James family member told me that their James family was related to | > the James Brothers. Who knows if this is true? These former Quaker | > families | > (James, Hanks, and others) came from Loudoun County, Virginia to Ohio in | > about 1815. Some of these Quakers came down from eastern Pennsylvania in | > 1750-60s (Jackson, Janney, etc)and others (like the Hanks) came from | > Virginia to Maryland and converted to Quakerism there. The Quakers did not | > last long in Virginia due to religious issues, so they scattered other | > places. Some families went west to Ohio and changed religions, some | > remained Quakers and went to the Bedford Co., Pennsylvania area and others | > (like my Jackson line) disappeared other places - probably Kentucky or | > further south, following the typical migration route (along I-81) into | > southern Virginia, North Carolina, etc. | > James only married into my Hanks, so I don't have much on them. Earliest | > I | > have is a James James (b. abt 1775) who married Sarah Hanks about 1800? | > The | > original James might have been Quakers in Pennsylvania. | > Just a thought! | > Kathie | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> | > To: <[email protected]> | > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:03 PM | > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. | > (brothers) | > | > | > | As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, here's | > | some information, followed by a query. | > | | > | Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, | > 1854, | > | Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers | > associated | > | with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry | > Washington | > | Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 | > Crab | > | Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage | > occurred | > | on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. | > James | > | Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell | > Younger, | > | b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa | > Clara | > | Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under | > Mexican | > | rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in | > | California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He | > also | > | was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, also | > a | > | cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. | > | | > | It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage of | > his | > | father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger | > archives | > | at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now | > | remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is | > | known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? | > | | > | ERIC JAMES | > | Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 | > | www.ericjames.org | > | | > | Col Younger and Sarah Purcell | > | | > | -----Original Message----- | > | From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] | > | Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM | > | To: [email protected] | > | Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. | > (brothers) | > | | > | Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find | > the | > | connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than | > the | > | Purcells. | > | If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi | > | | > | --- [email protected] wrote: | > | | > | > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up information | > | > along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my ex-in-law's | > | > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin | > | > were "colorful" characters!!! | > | > | > | > You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins | > | > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. | > | > Always found that interesting but not surprising. | > | > Don't know--but it | > | > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The Youngers, | > | > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before they | > | > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. | > | > Samuels, don't know now | > | > who his father was. | > | > | > | > Mary | > | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> | > | > To: <[email protected]> | > | > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM | > | > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. | > | > (brothers) | > | > | > | > | > | > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have | > | > a bit on them. | > | > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. | > | > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 | > | > committed fornication with Mary | > | > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined | > | > 30s. and ordered to give | > | > > security to keep the county from any charge by | > | > means of his bastard child | > | > > called Alexander." | > | > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a | > | > bit large for list. | > | > > Dave | > | > > | > | > > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > > From: <[email protected]> | > | > > To: <[email protected]> | > | > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM | > | > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas | > | > and James Sr. | > | > > (brothers) | > | > > | > | > > | > | > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba | > | > Leighton Fristoe were | > | > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger | > | > (Thomas Cole?? Have never | > | > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the | > | > Youngers moved to | > | > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen | > | > articles about the | > | > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and | > | > Cole had a black half | > | > >> sister (documented if you care to check). | > | > >> | > | > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra | > | > Maybelle Shirley's dau | > | > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle | > | > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie | > | > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & | > | > Myra had a son Ed, too, | > | > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in | > | > Ok; lived in the Eufalia | > | > >> area (the same area as my | > | > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys | > | > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My | > | > daus' GGm Minnie Belle | > | > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL | > | > (don't ask me how she got | > | > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for | > | > Belle | > | > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey | > | > were supposidly friends. | > | > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising | > | > when Belle shot Sam | > | > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told | > | > this years ago by | > | > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a | > | > tall tale"!! Was very | > | > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle | > | > Starr in a magazine (IE: | > | > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but | > | > don't remember which) | > | > >> which related the incident as well as other | > | > things. | > | > >> | > | > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony | > | > across the Indian | > | > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't | > | > speak a word of English. | > | > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee | > | > Nation, OK & are | > | > >> buried at Eufalia. | > | > >> | > | > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I | > | > married their | > | > >> son. | > | > >> | > | > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds | > | > of things!!! | > | > >> | > | > >> Mary Yoder | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> ----- Original Message ----- | > | > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> | > | > >> To: <[email protected]> | > | > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM | > | > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, | > | > Thomas and James Sr. | > | > >> (brothers) | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on | > | > Sarah | > | > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to | > | > you | > | > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a | > | > Henry | > | > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles | > | > must | > | > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in | > | > Indiana. | > | > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the | > | > most | > | > >>> likely connection with this couple and the | > | > Purcells | > | > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor | > | > Sullivan. A | > | > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her | > | > middle | > | > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would | > | > have | > | > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day | > | > though | > | > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He | > | > was an | > | > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, | > | > >>> considered a traditor because he | > | > helped the | > | > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be | > | > of | > | > >>> more help. Judi Purcell | > | > >>> | > | > >>> | > | > >>> | > | > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: | > | > >>> | > | > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah | > | > Sullivan | > | > >>>> Purcell. | > | > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are | > | > in | > | > >>>> there twice once as | > | > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. | > | > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, | > | > 1796. | > | > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark | > | > Twain? | > | > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl | > | > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. | > | > >>>> Dave | > | > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- | > | > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" | > | > <[email protected]> | > | > >>>> To: <[email protected]> | > | > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM | > | > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas | > | > and | > | > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) | > | > >>>> | > | > >>>> | > | > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, | > | > etc.) | > | > >>>> were | > | > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in | > | > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. | > | > These | > | > >>>> sons | > | > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. | > | > Another | > | > >>>> son, | > | > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), | > | > >>>> County | > | > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just | > | > >>>> across | > | > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA | > | > around | > | > >>>> > 1750. | > | > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt | > | > County | > | > >>>> with | > | > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had | > | > children | > | > >>>> Isaac | > | > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 | > | > Bullitt | > | > >>>> County; | > | > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt | > | > >>>> County; | > | > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah | > | > >>>> LARD/LAIRD | > | > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other | > | > >>>> chidren of | > | > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who | > | > >>>> married | > | > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL | > | > who | > | > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. | > | > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna | > | > (Biggerstaff?) and | > | > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived | > | > in | > | > >>>> Nelson | > | > >>>> > County. | > | > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has | > | > interest | > | > >>>> in | > | > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt | > | > >>>> Counties.--Judith | > | > >>>> > Purcell | > | > >>>> > | > | > >>>> > | > | > >>>> > | > | > __________________________________________________ | > | > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? | > | > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Re discussion of the Lincolns We visited Lincoln City, IN where there is a replica of Lincolns home after they moved from KY. If I remember right, Nancy Hanks Lincoln, Abraham Lincolns first wife, is buried there in a cemetery. If anyong lives close, there is a nice Visitors building with lots of nice pictures, movie, and then a short stroll to the cemetery and the setting with the replica of the Lincoln home and buildings. It is not elaborate but a nice day trip. Dottie Porter Himes Dottie Himes Lewisport, KY 42351 [email protected] I love my Family, Genealogy is Addictive but Fun: SURNAMES: Heim, Himes, Ahlers, Shroyer, Swadener /Burch, Clements, Hagan, Hutchins, Porter /Hayden, Mulligan,Young, and many more. -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 06/04/05 08:24:58 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) Thomas Lincoln m Nancy Hanks 1806 Washington Co, Ky. He is buried in a country churchyard cem just south of Charleston, Coles, IL. Do not know where Sarah Bush Johnson Lincoln is buried; don't know if she is with him or not. Found his tombstone a number of years ago. Thomas & Nancy may have married in Washington Co, Ky but they lived in the Hodgenville area of Hardin Co until they moved to IN (where Nancy died). Thomas returned to Hardin Co & married Sarah Bush Johnson, d/o Christopher Bush (ca 1819-ish). There were other Hanks in Hardin Co, too, who moved into Grayson & Breckenridge Cos. Sarah Lee Hanks, Nancy's mother, married Henry Sparrow in Mercer Co, Ky. A Sparrow also married in to one of a Jenkins Family I am researching in the Nelson/Hardin Cos area of Ky. When researching families in the Nelson/Hardin Co area of Ky--one picks up all kinds of data!!!! Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, here's > some information, followed by a query. > > Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, 1854, > Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers > associated > with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry Washington > Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 > Crab > Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage > occurred > on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. > James > Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell Younger, > b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa > Clara > Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under Mexican > rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in > California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He also > was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, also a > cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. > > It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage of > his > father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger > archives > at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now > remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is > known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? > > ERIC JAMES > Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 > www.ericjames.org > > Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find > the > connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than the > Purcells. > If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi > > --- [email protected] wrote: > >> Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up information >> along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my ex-in-law's >> family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin >> were "colorful" characters!!! >> >> You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins >> were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. >> Always found that interesting but not surprising. >> Don't know--but it >> wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The Youngers, >> the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before they >> all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. >> Samuels, don't know now >> who his father was. >> >> Mary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. >> (brothers) >> >> >> > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have >> a bit on them. >> > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. >> > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 >> committed fornication with Mary >> > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined >> 30s. and ordered to give >> > security to keep the county from any charge by >> means of his bastard child >> > called Alexander." >> > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a >> bit large for list. >> > Dave >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM >> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and James Sr. >> > (brothers) >> > >> > >> >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba >> Leighton Fristoe were >> >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger >> (Thomas Cole?? Have never >> >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the >> Youngers moved to >> >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen >> articles about the >> >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and >> Cole had a black half >> >> sister (documented if you care to check). >> >> >> >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra >> Maybelle Shirley's dau >> >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle >> (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >> >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & >> Myra had a son Ed, too, >> >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in >> Ok; lived in the Eufalia >> >> area (the same area as my >> Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >> >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My >> daus' GGm Minnie Belle >> >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL >> (don't ask me how she got >> >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for >> Belle >> >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey >> were supposidly friends. >> >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising >> when Belle shot Sam >> >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told >> this years ago by >> >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a >> tall tale"!! Was very >> >> surprised when I read an article about Belle >> Starr in a magazine (IE: >> >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but >> don't remember which) >> >> which related the incident as well as other >> things. >> >> >> >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony >> across the Indian >> >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't >> speak a word of English. >> >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee >> Nation, OK & are >> >> buried at Eufalia. >> >> >> >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I >> married their >> >> son. >> >> >> >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds >> of things!!! >> >> >> >> Mary Yoder >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> Thomas and James Sr. >> >> (brothers) >> >> >> >> >> >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on >> Sarah >> >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to >> you >> >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a >> Henry >> >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles >> must >> >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in >> Indiana. >> >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the >> most >> >>> likely connection with this couple and the >> Purcells >> >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor >> Sullivan. A >> >>> younger descendant told me that she said her >> middle >> >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would >> have >> >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day >> though >> >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He >> was an >> >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, >> >>> considered a traditor because he >> helped the >> >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be >> of >> >>> more help. Judi Purcell >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah >> Sullivan >> >>>> Purcell. >> >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are >> in >> >>>> there twice once as >> >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >> >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, >> 1796. >> >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark >> Twain? >> >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >> >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >> >>>> Dave >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" >> <[email protected]> >> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >> >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and >> >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, >> etc.) >> >>>> were >> >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in >> >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. >> These >> >>>> sons >> >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. >> Another >> >>>> son, >> >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), >> >>>> County >> >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just >> >>>> across >> >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA >> around >> >>>> > 1750. >> >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt >> County >> >>>> with >> >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had >> children >> >>>> Isaac >> >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 >> Bullitt >> >>>> County; >> >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >> >>>> County; >> >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >> >>>> LARD/LAIRD >> >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >> >>>> chidren of >> >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >> >>>> married >> >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL >> who >> >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >> >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna >> (Biggerstaff?) and >> >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived >> in >> >>>> Nelson >> >>>> > County. >> >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has >> interest >> >>>> in >> >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >> >>>> Counties.--Judith >> >>>> > Purcell >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> __________________________________________________ >> >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >> >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> >>>> protection around >> >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> >>> Do You Yahoo!? >> >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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JUDE --Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it. Isaac Purcell is my ancestor and John was his brother. They are the only Purcell family that stayed there, as far as I can tell. But still we are a long way from being able to put them together and you never know what may have missed. I have been surprised before. Judi Purcell --- [email protected] wrote: > I don't know if this will be of help to any of you > or not, but thought I'd > pass it on. You can get copies of these from the > following web site. > > http://www.copies1918.com/bullitb.html > > Take good care, > Jude > > BULLITT COUNTY WILLS Vol. B: 1803-1824 > > 16PurcellIsaacsettlement > 273PurcellJohnwill > 290PurcellJohninventory/appraisement > 291PurcellJohnestate sale > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I just looked at index (all I have) and it shows Vol 4 pg 148 John Carter charged with murder of James Miller, Vol 5 pg 357 John Carter deceased; commissioners authorized to sell lands. under Miller, James Vol 4, 148, John Carter charged with his murder, escaped jail and was apprehended. I suppose you could get the actual volumes on a library loan.I do not think they are on line. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Carter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:23 AM Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Re: Littells Statute laws for Ky Volume 5 > Does anyone have Volume 5 of Littells Laws for Kentucky... Need > information in Volume 5, page 357, referring to John CARTER... Seems John > Carter was arrested for Murder, escaped, and was recaptured.... Did they > hang him, turn him loose, or pat him on the back, and say good > boy...Thanks. > > Dick Carter > [email protected] >

Let me see what I can find, Judi. Due to the spelling--it is going to be quite a task to find anything. Will specifically look in Lincoln Co but be aware that ancestry doesn't have any census of Ky until 1810. Don't know what I will find in the mgs to 1850 (actually 1825-ish). Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] re: Younger/Percell > Mary--Thanks for the good information on the Youngers. > Nothng like the raw information to get a better > overview of where they were. Did you find any > Purcells in Lincoln County? Suppose you did not or > you would have included them. Sarah Purcell being > born in Crab Orchard - Lincoln County, KY makes me > think there had to have been Purcells there though I > do not recall any. > Don't go to too much trouble. I am wondering abot the > 1810 census. See you are on line now. Judi > > --- [email protected] wrote: > >> Yes, the mg record for Charles Younger & Sarah >> Sullivan Percell is in >> Clark Co, IN-- m 8-21-1807. Do not know what it >> says but mg is listed in >> the >> index of mgs to 1850 on the IN State Lib web site. >> Other Younger mgs, too >> but none as early as Charles'. >> >> Also--Ky Mgs on ancestry.com (to 1825) does not list >> any Younger mgs in >> Lincoln Co.-- Bourbon Co Mgs. >> >> Younger: >> Catherine - Michael Smith 17 Nov 1788 Bourbon >> Lewis - Nancy Crose 28 Aug 1823 Bourbon >> Elizabeth - John B. Cundiff 16 Mar 1820 Bullitt >> Rachel - James Watson 29 Apr 1820 Bullitt >> Mahala - Cornelius Bird 2 Apr 1822 Bullitt >> Mary - Richard Condiff 9 Jun 1822 Bullitt (prob >> Cundiff) >> Isaac - Ellen Younger 4 Nov 1822 Bullitt >> Peter - Abigale Dennis 13 Mar 1798 Gerrard >> Charles - Nancy Toney 13 Apr 1798 Gerrard >> Rachel - William Word 29 Oct 1806 Gerrard >> Charles - Elizabeth Walker 19 Feb 1807 Hardin >> Elizabeth - John Coulson 28 Jan 1823 Harrison >> Catherine - Jediah Ashcraft 13 Feb 1825 Harrison >> William A. - Katy Crabtree 1 Jan 1810 Logan >> Joseph H. - Barbara Shouse 14 Apr 798 Madison >> Kennard - Elizth Cambron 15 Feb 1792 Nelson >> Henry - Rutch Gatch 15 Jul 1793 Nelson >> John - Elizabeth Kerns 17 Mar 1818 Nicholas >> Sarah - Horatio Morris 1 Sep 1823 Nicholas >> Deborah - Samuel Shannon 30 Nov 1820 Shelby >> Betsey - Solomon Haynes 9 Aug 1810 Washington >> Sally - John Easton 30 Jun 1812 Washington >> John - Mary Deringer 5 Jun 1795 Woodford >> Ruth - Geo. Caplinger 20 Apr 1796 Woodford >> >> Then we have: >> Younger Witherspoon - Patsy Greathouse 10 Oct 1825 >> Warren >> Younger Jones - Caty Duett 19 Mar 1821 Shelby >> Younger Arnold - Jane Weakley 12 NOv 1811 Shelby >> Younger P. SMITH - Polly Holloday 20 Feb 1823 >> Gallatin (s/o Michael & >> Catherine Younger Smith????) >> Younger Hisle - Maeth Noris 11 Dec 1824 Clark >> >> Can't get any listing for Ky 1790, 1800. Ancestry's >> listing of Ky Censuses >> starts 1810. >> >> So: >> 1810 Bullitt Co, Ky >> Younger, Kennard 12110 - 30010 - 00 pg 355 >> Younger, Henry 40010 - 24010-01 p 355 >> Younger, Isaac 20010 - 00100- 00 p 355 >> >> 1810 Boone Co, Ky - p 121 >> Peter Younger 10010 - 20010 - 00 >> >> 1810: >> John Younger, Frankfor, Franklin, Ky; p 180: 21110 - >> 31010 - 010 >> Charles Younger, not stated, Logan Co p 195: 12211 - >> 02201-?? >> William Younger- not stated, Logan Co p 173: 31100 - >> 2000? ?? >> Joshua Younger not stated, Montgomery Co; p 383: >> 2????-???? >> (where ? is at-- not complete page & can't tell who >> is listed). >> >> 1810 Logan Co, KY: >> Samuel Holoway 21010 - 12010 -?? - 195 >> Charles Younger --above p 195 >> Stephen Smith 10010 - 21110-?? - 195 >> (all three listed as above on census) >> >> 1820 couldn't find >> >> 1830 Clay Co, MO; p 292: >> Charles L. Younger 0001001000000- 0010001000000 >> Coleman L. Younger: 0000100000000 - 1000100000000 >> Henry W. Younger 0000100000000 - 0010000000000 >> >> Other Youngers In 1830 Cen Index: >> M. F Younger, not stated, Howard Co, MO >> Ruth Younger Mt Washington, Bullitt, KY >> Isaac JR Mt Washington, Bullitt, Ky >> Elen Mt Washington, Bullitt, Ky >> Steven not stated, Lawrence, IN >> Joseph- n/state, Bond, IL >> Peter : n/stated, Grant, Ky >> Knard n/stated, Henry, Ky >> Willis n/stated, Hopkins, Ky >> Samuel : Russelville, Logan, Ky >> William : Russelville, Logan, Ky >> Nimrod: n/stated, Morgan, Ky >> Joshua, n/stated, Nicholas, Ky >> Lewis, n/stated, Nicholas, Ky >> Charles n/stated, Pendleton, Ky (0010100000000 - >> 0001000000000) >> John : n/stated, Shelby Ky >> James: Franklin, St Marys, LA >> >> 1840: >> Charles Younger n/stated, Clay, Mo 0000001000000 - >> 0000001000000 >> Coleman " : not stated, Clay, MO 11000100000000 - >> 2010010000000 (pg 3) >> (did not find Henry) >> >> Henry is listed as Harry in 1850 Cen Blue Twp, Co of >> Jackson, MO: p 265B >> 1/1 Charles Younger 61 farmer 50,000 Ky >> Sarah 62 Ky >> Adeline 14 MO >> 2/2 Booker? John Jailor -- his family & prisoners >> in jail. >> 3/3 Younger, Harry 38 m farmer 9000 MO >> , Beersha 33 Mo >> , Helen 18 >> , Isabela 16 >> , Martha H. 14 >> , Richard 12 >> , Jospehine 10 >> , Caroline 8 >> , Coleman 6 >> , Sarah A. 4 >> pg 266A , James H. 2 MO >> Soemato? , Hardin 30 m carpenter " >> " , Wiley 23 m do " >> >> >> 1810, 1820 Cen of Bullitt on line at the Bullitt Co, >> Web site -- as well as >> the 1870 of Bullitt Co. >> >> Mary Y. >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html > >

Thomas Lincoln m Nancy Hanks 1806 Washington Co, Ky. He is buried in a country churchyard cem just south of Charleston, Coles, IL. Do not know where Sarah Bush Johnson Lincoln is buried; don't know if she is with him or not. Found his tombstone a number of years ago. Thomas & Nancy may have married in Washington Co, Ky but they lived in the Hodgenville area of Hardin Co until they moved to IN (where Nancy died). Thomas returned to Hardin Co & married Sarah Bush Johnson, d/o Christopher Bush (ca 1819-ish). There were other Hanks in Hardin Co, too, who moved into Grayson & Breckenridge Cos. Sarah Lee Hanks, Nancy's mother, married Henry Sparrow in Mercer Co, Ky. A Sparrow also married in to one of a Jenkins Family I am researching in the Nelson/Hardin Cos area of Ky. When researching families in the Nelson/Hardin Co area of Ky--one picks up all kinds of data!!!! Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, here's > some information, followed by a query. > > Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, 1854, > Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers > associated > with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry Washington > Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 > Crab > Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage > occurred > on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. > James > Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell Younger, > b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa > Clara > Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under Mexican > rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in > California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He also > was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, also a > cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. > > It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage of > his > father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger > archives > at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now > remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is > known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? > > ERIC JAMES > Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 > www.ericjames.org > > Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find > the > connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than the > Purcells. > If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi > > --- [email protected] wrote: > >> Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up information >> along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my ex-in-law's >> family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin >> were "colorful" characters!!! >> >> You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins >> were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. >> Always found that interesting but not surprising. >> Don't know--but it >> wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The Youngers, >> the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before they >> all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. >> Samuels, don't know now >> who his father was. >> >> Mary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. >> (brothers) >> >> >> > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have >> a bit on them. >> > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. >> > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 >> committed fornication with Mary >> > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined >> 30s. and ordered to give >> > security to keep the county from any charge by >> means of his bastard child >> > called Alexander." >> > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a >> bit large for list. >> > Dave >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM >> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and James Sr. >> > (brothers) >> > >> > >> >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba >> Leighton Fristoe were >> >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger >> (Thomas Cole?? Have never >> >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the >> Youngers moved to >> >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen >> articles about the >> >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and >> Cole had a black half >> >> sister (documented if you care to check). >> >> >> >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra >> Maybelle Shirley's dau >> >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle >> (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >> >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & >> Myra had a son Ed, too, >> >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in >> Ok; lived in the Eufalia >> >> area (the same area as my >> Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >> >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My >> daus' GGm Minnie Belle >> >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL >> (don't ask me how she got >> >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for >> Belle >> >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey >> were supposidly friends. >> >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising >> when Belle shot Sam >> >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told >> this years ago by >> >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a >> tall tale"!! Was very >> >> surprised when I read an article about Belle >> Starr in a magazine (IE: >> >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but >> don't remember which) >> >> which related the incident as well as other >> things. >> >> >> >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony >> across the Indian >> >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't >> speak a word of English. >> >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee >> Nation, OK & are >> >> buried at Eufalia. >> >> >> >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I >> married their >> >> son. >> >> >> >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds >> of things!!! >> >> >> >> Mary Yoder >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> Thomas and James Sr. >> >> (brothers) >> >> >> >> >> >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on >> Sarah >> >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to >> you >> >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a >> Henry >> >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles >> must >> >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in >> Indiana. >> >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the >> most >> >>> likely connection with this couple and the >> Purcells >> >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor >> Sullivan. A >> >>> younger descendant told me that she said her >> middle >> >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would >> have >> >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day >> though >> >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He >> was an >> >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, >> >>> considered a traditor because he >> helped the >> >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be >> of >> >>> more help. Judi Purcell >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah >> Sullivan >> >>>> Purcell. >> >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are >> in >> >>>> there twice once as >> >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >> >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, >> 1796. >> >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark >> Twain? >> >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >> >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >> >>>> Dave >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" >> <[email protected]> >> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >> >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and >> >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, >> etc.) >> >>>> were >> >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in >> >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. >> These >> >>>> sons >> >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. >> Another >> >>>> son, >> >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), >> >>>> County >> >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just >> >>>> across >> >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA >> around >> >>>> > 1750. >> >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt >> County >> >>>> with >> >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had >> children >> >>>> Isaac >> >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 >> Bullitt >> >>>> County; >> >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >> >>>> County; >> >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >> >>>> LARD/LAIRD >> >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >> >>>> chidren of >> >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >> >>>> married >> >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL >> who >> >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >> >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna >> (Biggerstaff?) and >> >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived >> in >> >>>> Nelson >> >>>> > County. >> >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has >> interest >> >>>> in >> >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >> >>>> Counties.--Judith >> >>>> > Purcell >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> __________________________________________________ >> >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >> >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> >>>> protection around >> >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> >>> Do You Yahoo!? >> >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Does anyone have Volume 5 of Littells Laws for Kentucky... Need information in Volume 5, page 357, referring to John CARTER... Seems John Carter was arrested for Murder, escaped, and was recaptured.... Did they hang him, turn him loose, or pat him on the back, and say good boy...Thanks. Dick Carter [email protected]

Kathie, Check out Eric James' web site!!!! It is really great!!! Have only barely scratched the surface there but have found very important data!!! Hope you have as much luck & can fill Eric in on your line. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Kathleen Felsted" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:43 AM Subject: [KYNELSON-L] James > When I was researching my Hanks line in Muskingum and Coshocton County, > Ohio, a James family member told me that their James family was related to > the James Brothers. Who knows if this is true? These former Quaker > families > (James, Hanks, and others) came from Loudoun County, Virginia to Ohio in > about 1815. Some of these Quakers came down from eastern Pennsylvania in > 1750-60s (Jackson, Janney, etc)and others (like the Hanks) came from > Virginia to Maryland and converted to Quakerism there. The Quakers did not > last long in Virginia due to religious issues, so they scattered other > places. Some families went west to Ohio and changed religions, some > remained Quakers and went to the Bedford Co., Pennsylvania area and others > (like my Jackson line) disappeared other places - probably Kentucky or > further south, following the typical migration route (along I-81) into > southern Virginia, North Carolina, etc. > James only married into my Hanks, so I don't have much on them. Earliest > I > have is a James James (b. abt 1775) who married Sarah Hanks about 1800? > The > original James might have been Quakers in Pennsylvania. > Just a thought! > Kathie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:03 PM > Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > > | As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, here's > | some information, followed by a query. > | > | Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, > 1854, > | Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers > associated > | with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry > Washington > | Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 > Crab > | Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage > occurred > | on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. > James > | Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell > Younger, > | b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa > Clara > | Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under > Mexican > | rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in > | California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He > also > | was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, also > a > | cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. > | > | It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage of > his > | father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger > archives > | at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now > | remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is > | known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? > | > | ERIC JAMES > | Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 > | www.ericjames.org > | > | Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] > | Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > | To: [email protected] > | Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > | > | Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find > the > | connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than > the > | Purcells. > | If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi > | > | --- [email protected] wrote: > | > | > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up information > | > along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my ex-in-law's > | > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin > | > were "colorful" characters!!! > | > > | > You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins > | > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. > | > Always found that interesting but not surprising. > | > Don't know--but it > | > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The Youngers, > | > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before they > | > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. > | > Samuels, don't know now > | > who his father was. > | > > | > Mary > | > > | > ----- Original Message ----- > | > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> > | > To: <[email protected]> > | > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM > | > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > | > (brothers) > | > > | > > | > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have > | > a bit on them. > | > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. > | > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 > | > committed fornication with Mary > | > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined > | > 30s. and ordered to give > | > > security to keep the county from any charge by > | > means of his bastard child > | > > called Alexander." > | > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a > | > bit large for list. > | > > Dave > | > > > | > > ----- Original Message ----- > | > > From: <[email protected]> > | > > To: <[email protected]> > | > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM > | > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > | > and James Sr. > | > > (brothers) > | > > > | > > > | > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba > | > Leighton Fristoe were > | > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger > | > (Thomas Cole?? Have never > | > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the > | > Youngers moved to > | > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen > | > articles about the > | > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and > | > Cole had a black half > | > >> sister (documented if you care to check). > | > >> > | > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra > | > Maybelle Shirley's dau > | > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle > | > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie > | > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & > | > Myra had a son Ed, too, > | > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in > | > Ok; lived in the Eufalia > | > >> area (the same area as my > | > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys > | > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My > | > daus' GGm Minnie Belle > | > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL > | > (don't ask me how she got > | > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for > | > Belle > | > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey > | > were supposidly friends. > | > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising > | > when Belle shot Sam > | > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told > | > this years ago by > | > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a > | > tall tale"!! Was very > | > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle > | > Starr in a magazine (IE: > | > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but > | > don't remember which) > | > >> which related the incident as well as other > | > things. > | > >> > | > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony > | > across the Indian > | > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't > | > speak a word of English. > | > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee > | > Nation, OK & are > | > >> buried at Eufalia. > | > >> > | > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I > | > married their > | > >> son. > | > >> > | > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds > | > of things!!! > | > >> > | > >> Mary Yoder > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> ----- Original Message ----- > | > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > | > >> To: <[email protected]> > | > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM > | > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, > | > Thomas and James Sr. > | > >> (brothers) > | > >> > | > >> > | > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on > | > Sarah > | > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to > | > you > | > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a > | > Henry > | > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles > | > must > | > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in > | > Indiana. > | > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the > | > most > | > >>> likely connection with this couple and the > | > Purcells > | > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor > | > Sullivan. A > | > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her > | > middle > | > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would > | > have > | > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day > | > though > | > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He > | > was an > | > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, > | > >>> considered a traditor because he > | > helped the > | > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be > | > of > | > >>> more help. Judi Purcell > | > >>> > | > >>> > | > >>> > | > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > | > >>> > | > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah > | > Sullivan > | > >>>> Purcell. > | > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are > | > in > | > >>>> there twice once as > | > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. > | > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, > | > 1796. > | > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark > | > Twain? > | > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl > | > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. > | > >>>> Dave > | > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > | > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" > | > <[email protected]> > | > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > | > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM > | > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas > | > and > | > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) > | > >>>> > | > >>>> > | > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, > | > etc.) > | > >>>> were > | > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in > | > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. > | > These > | > >>>> sons > | > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. > | > Another > | > >>>> son, > | > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), > | > >>>> County > | > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just > | > >>>> across > | > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA > | > around > | > >>>> > 1750. > | > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt > | > County > | > >>>> with > | > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had > | > children > | > >>>> Isaac > | > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 > | > Bullitt > | > >>>> County; > | > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt > | > >>>> County; > | > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah > | > >>>> LARD/LAIRD > | > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other > | > >>>> chidren of > | > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who > | > >>>> married > | > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL > | > who > | > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. > | > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna > | > (Biggerstaff?) and > | > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived > | > in > | > >>>> Nelson > | > >>>> > County. > | > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has > | > interest > | > >>>> in > | > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt > | > >>>> Counties.--Judith > | > >>>> > Purcell > | > >>>> > > | > >>>> > > | > >>>> > > | > __________________________________________________ > | > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? > | > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Eric, Am so pleased to find your website & it is wonderful!!! Have marked it as a favorite so I can explore it more. Was looking for Forrest James only to find out he was Rev John Foster James who m Margaret Elizabeth "Betsy" Wand. She d/o Thomas Sr and MARY FIGG Wand. Mary b 5 Apr 1764. Thomas 2 Apr 1762 England; d 7 Nov 1837 Warren Co, Ky. For this couple, I have the children: 1 Thomas Wand Jr ca 1795 2. Margaret Elizabeth Wand; m Forrest James; she b 6 Aug 1796 ; m 17 Jan 1811 Butler Co, Ky 3. Powell Wand m Mary Kuykendall- he b 23 Oct 1797 4. Nancy Ann Wand b ca 1800 Fred Co, Va; d Crawford Co, Ark; m Moses Kuykendall 14 Dec 1807 Butler Co, Ky--he 1785-1828 Crawford Co, Ark 5. Mary Wand b ca 1801 6. Wm N. Wand b ca 1803; m Nancy Davis Hay 16 Feb 1824 (am sure if I checked the mgs of Ky-I would find actual mg places and could find census data for the above people, too. Much rebuilding of my gedcom files!!!!) Also: Seeli/Seli/Celi Figg b 4 May 1776 Berkely Co, Va; m Mary Dean Kuykendall (widow of Jacob; had children by him) 8 Oct 1804 Hardin Co, Ky. Seeli/etc, s/o John Figg Sr & #1 wife (an unknown Irish Lady); Seeli/etc d 1855 Ellettsville, Monroe, IN. Mary prob. died in Shelby Co, Ky. I descend from John Figg Sr & #2 wife Elizabeth Mitchell who m 1792 Berkeley Co, Va; John d Dec 1839-Jan 1840 Nelson Co, Ky. Have been trying to find other Figgs in Va & I thank you for your "lead"!!! I have the book "Figg Leaves" by Haskarrl & Matson, 1982. Also-- when I was a young girl at LeRoy, McLean Co, IL. I knew Woody James & his wife Maggie (they lived a block away from us & later their dau & son-in-law built a house across the street from them; that is how they all got to IL--their dau married a man from LeRoy). Woody & Maggie was from Ky. I checked the 1930 Cen of LeRoy, McLean Co, IL & found Woody's mother Lavinia living with them. Will have to check the Cems (Oak Grove & Gilmore) to see which Cem all three are buried in. Was just a kid when Maggie & Woody died & would not have remembered Lavinia. Brenda of [email protected] found Woodford James in a household in Ky with his mother & step-father. Just don't remember WHERE!!!! Data was in my gedfile but have had to up-load an OLD back up & have lost lots of data including data on Woody & Maggie. I had asked Brenda if she could find a Woody James with a mother Lavinia anywhere in Ky. She did & I then found them myself. Will have to see if I can repeat the data!!! Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) > As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, here's > some information, followed by a query. > > Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, 1854, > Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers > associated > with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry Washington > Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 > Crab > Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage > occurred > on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. > James > Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell Younger, > b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa > Clara > Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under Mexican > rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in > California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He also > was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, also a > cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. > > It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage of > his > father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger > archives > at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now > remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is > known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? > > ERIC JAMES > Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 > www.ericjames.org > > Col Younger and Sarah Purcell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. > (brothers) > > Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find > the > connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than the > Purcells. > If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi > > --- [email protected] wrote: > >> Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up information >> along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my ex-in-law's >> family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin >> were "colorful" characters!!! >> >> You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins >> were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. >> Always found that interesting but not surprising. >> Don't know--but it >> wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The Youngers, >> the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before they >> all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. >> Samuels, don't know now >> who his father was. >> >> Mary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. >> (brothers) >> >> >> > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have >> a bit on them. >> > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. >> > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 >> committed fornication with Mary >> > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined >> 30s. and ordered to give >> > security to keep the county from any charge by >> means of his bastard child >> > called Alexander." >> > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a >> bit large for list. >> > Dave >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM >> > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and James Sr. >> > (brothers) >> > >> > >> >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba >> Leighton Fristoe were >> >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger >> (Thomas Cole?? Have never >> >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the >> Youngers moved to >> >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen >> articles about the >> >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and >> Cole had a black half >> >> sister (documented if you care to check). >> >> >> >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra >> Maybelle Shirley's dau >> >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle >> (aka Belle Starr). Rosie >> >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & >> Myra had a son Ed, too, >> >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in >> Ok; lived in the Eufalia >> >> area (the same area as my >> Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys >> >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My >> daus' GGm Minnie Belle >> >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL >> (don't ask me how she got >> >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for >> Belle >> >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey >> were supposidly friends. >> >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising >> when Belle shot Sam >> >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told >> this years ago by >> >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a >> tall tale"!! Was very >> >> surprised when I read an article about Belle >> Starr in a magazine (IE: >> >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but >> don't remember which) >> >> which related the incident as well as other >> things. >> >> >> >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony >> across the Indian >> >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't >> speak a word of English. >> >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee >> Nation, OK & are >> >> buried at Eufalia. >> >> >> >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I >> married their >> >> son. >> >> >> >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds >> of things!!! >> >> >> >> Mary Yoder >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, >> Thomas and James Sr. >> >> (brothers) >> >> >> >> >> >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on >> Sarah >> >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to >> you >> >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a >> Henry >> >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles >> must >> >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in >> Indiana. >> >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the >> most >> >>> likely connection with this couple and the >> Purcells >> >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor >> Sullivan. A >> >>> younger descendant told me that she said her >> middle >> >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would >> have >> >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day >> though >> >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He >> was an >> >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, >> >>> considered a traditor because he >> helped the >> >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be >> of >> >>> more help. Judi Purcell >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah >> Sullivan >> >>>> Purcell. >> >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are >> in >> >>>> there twice once as >> >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. >> >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, >> 1796. >> >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark >> Twain? >> >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl >> >>>> in Tom Sawyer. >> >>>> Dave >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" >> <[email protected]> >> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM >> >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas >> and >> >>>> James Sr. (brothers) >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, >> etc.) >> >>>> were >> >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in >> >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. >> These >> >>>> sons >> >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. >> Another >> >>>> son, >> >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), >> >>>> County >> >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just >> >>>> across >> >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA >> around >> >>>> > 1750. >> >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt >> County >> >>>> with >> >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had >> children >> >>>> Isaac >> >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 >> Bullitt >> >>>> County; >> >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt >> >>>> County; >> >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah >> >>>> LARD/LAIRD >> >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other >> >>>> chidren of >> >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who >> >>>> married >> >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL >> who >> >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. >> >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna >> (Biggerstaff?) and >> >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived >> in >> >>>> Nelson >> >>>> > County. >> >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has >> interest >> >>>> in >> >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt >> >>>> Counties.--Judith >> >>>> > Purcell >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> __________________________________________________ >> >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? >> >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> >>>> protection around >> >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> >>> Do You Yahoo!? >> >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Mary -- the 1810 is fine since Sarah Purcell married in 1807. Since she remembered Crab Orchard it just sounds like she lived there. I wonder why she did not mention her parents names. Oh well. Thank you. I am not in any hurry and again don't go to too much trouble with this. Judi --- [email protected] wrote: > Let me see what I can find, Judi. Due to the > spelling--it is going to be > quite a task to find anything. Will specifically > look in Lincoln Co but be > aware that ancestry doesn't have any census of Ky > until 1810. Don't know > what I will find in the mgs to 1850 (actually > 1825-ish). > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:28 AM > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] re: Younger/Percell > > > > Mary--Thanks for the good information on the > Youngers. > > Nothng like the raw information to get a better > > overview of where they were. Did you find any > > Purcells in Lincoln County? Suppose you did not > or > > you would have included them. Sarah Purcell being > > born in Crab Orchard - Lincoln County, KY makes me > > think there had to have been Purcells there though > I > > do not recall any. > > Don't go to too much trouble. I am wondering abot > the > > 1810 census. See you are on line now. Judi > > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > >> Yes, the mg record for Charles Younger & Sarah > >> Sullivan Percell is in > >> Clark Co, IN-- m 8-21-1807. Do not know what it > >> says but mg is listed in > >> the > >> index of mgs to 1850 on the IN State Lib web > site. > >> Other Younger mgs, too > >> but none as early as Charles'. > >> > >> Also--Ky Mgs on ancestry.com (to 1825) does not > list > >> any Younger mgs in > >> Lincoln Co.-- Bourbon Co Mgs. > >> > >> Younger: > >> Catherine - Michael Smith 17 Nov 1788 Bourbon > >> Lewis - Nancy Crose 28 Aug 1823 Bourbon > >> Elizabeth - John B. Cundiff 16 Mar 1820 Bullitt > >> Rachel - James Watson 29 Apr 1820 Bullitt > >> Mahala - Cornelius Bird 2 Apr 1822 Bullitt > >> Mary - Richard Condiff 9 Jun 1822 Bullitt (prob > >> Cundiff) > >> Isaac - Ellen Younger 4 Nov 1822 Bullitt > >> Peter - Abigale Dennis 13 Mar 1798 Gerrard > >> Charles - Nancy Toney 13 Apr 1798 Gerrard > >> Rachel - William Word 29 Oct 1806 Gerrard > >> Charles - Elizabeth Walker 19 Feb 1807 Hardin > >> Elizabeth - John Coulson 28 Jan 1823 Harrison > >> Catherine - Jediah Ashcraft 13 Feb 1825 Harrison > >> William A. - Katy Crabtree 1 Jan 1810 Logan > >> Joseph H. - Barbara Shouse 14 Apr 798 Madison > >> Kennard - Elizth Cambron 15 Feb 1792 Nelson > >> Henry - Rutch Gatch 15 Jul 1793 Nelson > >> John - Elizabeth Kerns 17 Mar 1818 Nicholas > >> Sarah - Horatio Morris 1 Sep 1823 Nicholas > >> Deborah - Samuel Shannon 30 Nov 1820 Shelby > >> Betsey - Solomon Haynes 9 Aug 1810 Washington > >> Sally - John Easton 30 Jun 1812 Washington > >> John - Mary Deringer 5 Jun 1795 Woodford > >> Ruth - Geo. Caplinger 20 Apr 1796 Woodford > >> > >> Then we have: > >> Younger Witherspoon - Patsy Greathouse 10 Oct > 1825 > >> Warren > >> Younger Jones - Caty Duett 19 Mar 1821 Shelby > >> Younger Arnold - Jane Weakley 12 NOv 1811 Shelby > >> Younger P. SMITH - Polly Holloday 20 Feb 1823 > >> Gallatin (s/o Michael & > >> Catherine Younger Smith????) > >> Younger Hisle - Maeth Noris 11 Dec 1824 Clark > >> > >> Can't get any listing for Ky 1790, 1800. > Ancestry's > >> listing of Ky Censuses > >> starts 1810. > >> > >> So: > >> 1810 Bullitt Co, Ky > >> Younger, Kennard 12110 - 30010 - 00 pg 355 > >> Younger, Henry 40010 - 24010-01 p 355 > >> Younger, Isaac 20010 - 00100- 00 p 355 > >> > >> 1810 Boone Co, Ky - p 121 > >> Peter Younger 10010 - 20010 - 00 > >> > >> 1810: > >> John Younger, Frankfor, Franklin, Ky; p 180: > 21110 - > >> 31010 - 010 > >> Charles Younger, not stated, Logan Co p 195: > 12211 - > >> 02201-?? > >> William Younger- not stated, Logan Co p 173: > 31100 - > >> 2000? ?? > >> Joshua Younger not stated, Montgomery Co; p 383: > >> 2????-???? > >> (where ? is at-- not complete page & can't tell > who > >> is listed). > >> > >> 1810 Logan Co, KY: > >> Samuel Holoway 21010 - 12010 -?? - 195 > >> Charles Younger --above p 195 > >> Stephen Smith 10010 - 21110-?? - 195 > >> (all three listed as above on census) > >> > >> 1820 couldn't find > >> > >> 1830 Clay Co, MO; p 292: > >> Charles L. Younger 0001001000000- 0010001000000 > >> Coleman L. Younger: 0000100000000 - 1000100000000 > >> Henry W. Younger 0000100000000 - 0010000000000 > >> > >> Other Youngers In 1830 Cen Index: > >> M. F Younger, not stated, Howard Co, MO > >> Ruth Younger Mt Washington, Bullitt, KY > >> Isaac JR Mt Washington, Bullitt, Ky > >> Elen Mt Washington, Bullitt, Ky > >> Steven not stated, Lawrence, IN > >> Joseph- n/state, Bond, IL > >> Peter : n/stated, Grant, Ky > >> Knard n/stated, Henry, Ky > >> Willis n/stated, Hopkins, Ky > >> Samuel : Russelville, Logan, Ky > >> William : Russelville, Logan, Ky > >> Nimrod: n/stated, Morgan, Ky > >> Joshua, n/stated, Nicholas, Ky > >> Lewis, n/stated, Nicholas, Ky > >> Charles n/stated, Pendleton, Ky (0010100000000 - > >> 0001000000000) > >> John : n/stated, Shelby Ky > >> James: Franklin, St Marys, LA > >> > >> 1840: > >> Charles Younger n/stated, Clay, Mo 0000001000000 > - > >> 0000001000000 > >> Coleman " : not stated, Clay, MO 11000100000000 > - > >> 2010010000000 (pg 3) > >> (did not find Henry) > >> > >> Henry is listed as Harry in 1850 Cen Blue Twp, Co > of > >> Jackson, MO: p 265B > >> 1/1 Charles Younger 61 farmer 50,000 Ky > >> Sarah 62 Ky > >> Adeline 14 MO > >> 2/2 Booker? John Jailor -- his family & > prisoners > >> in jail. > >> 3/3 Younger, Harry 38 m farmer 9000 MO > >> , Beersha 33 Mo > >> , Helen 18 > >> , Isabela 16 > >> , Martha H. 14 > >> , Richard 12 > >> , Jospehine 10 > >> , Caroline 8 > >> , Coleman 6 > >> , Sarah A. 4 > >> pg 266A , James H. 2 > MO > >> Soemato? , Hardin 30 m carpenter " > >> " , Wiley 23 m do > " > >> > >> > >> 1810, 1820 Cen of Bullitt on line at the Bullitt > Co, > >> Web site -- as well as > >> the 1870 of Bullitt Co. > >> > >> Mary Y. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Discover Yahoo! > > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and > more. Check it out! > > http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html > > > > > > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html

Mary--Thanks for the good information on the Youngers. Nothng like the raw information to get a better overview of where they were. Did you find any Purcells in Lincoln County? Suppose you did not or you would have included them. Sarah Purcell being born in Crab Orchard - Lincoln County, KY makes me think there had to have been Purcells there though I do not recall any. Don't go to too much trouble. I am wondering abot the 1810 census. See you are on line now. Judi --- [email protected] wrote: > Yes, the mg record for Charles Younger & Sarah > Sullivan Percell is in > Clark Co, IN-- m 8-21-1807. Do not know what it > says but mg is listed in > the > index of mgs to 1850 on the IN State Lib web site. > Other Younger mgs, too > but none as early as Charles'. > > Also--Ky Mgs on ancestry.com (to 1825) does not list > any Younger mgs in > Lincoln Co.-- Bourbon Co Mgs. > > Younger: > Catherine - Michael Smith 17 Nov 1788 Bourbon > Lewis - Nancy Crose 28 Aug 1823 Bourbon > Elizabeth - John B. Cundiff 16 Mar 1820 Bullitt > Rachel - James Watson 29 Apr 1820 Bullitt > Mahala - Cornelius Bird 2 Apr 1822 Bullitt > Mary - Richard Condiff 9 Jun 1822 Bullitt (prob > Cundiff) > Isaac - Ellen Younger 4 Nov 1822 Bullitt > Peter - Abigale Dennis 13 Mar 1798 Gerrard > Charles - Nancy Toney 13 Apr 1798 Gerrard > Rachel - William Word 29 Oct 1806 Gerrard > Charles - Elizabeth Walker 19 Feb 1807 Hardin > Elizabeth - John Coulson 28 Jan 1823 Harrison > Catherine - Jediah Ashcraft 13 Feb 1825 Harrison > William A. - Katy Crabtree 1 Jan 1810 Logan > Joseph H. - Barbara Shouse 14 Apr 798 Madison > Kennard - Elizth Cambron 15 Feb 1792 Nelson > Henry - Rutch Gatch 15 Jul 1793 Nelson > John - Elizabeth Kerns 17 Mar 1818 Nicholas > Sarah - Horatio Morris 1 Sep 1823 Nicholas > Deborah - Samuel Shannon 30 Nov 1820 Shelby > Betsey - Solomon Haynes 9 Aug 1810 Washington > Sally - John Easton 30 Jun 1812 Washington > John - Mary Deringer 5 Jun 1795 Woodford > Ruth - Geo. Caplinger 20 Apr 1796 Woodford > > Then we have: > Younger Witherspoon - Patsy Greathouse 10 Oct 1825 > Warren > Younger Jones - Caty Duett 19 Mar 1821 Shelby > Younger Arnold - Jane Weakley 12 NOv 1811 Shelby > Younger P. SMITH - Polly Holloday 20 Feb 1823 > Gallatin (s/o Michael & > Catherine Younger Smith????) > Younger Hisle - Maeth Noris 11 Dec 1824 Clark > > Can't get any listing for Ky 1790, 1800. Ancestry's > listing of Ky Censuses > starts 1810. > > So: > 1810 Bullitt Co, Ky > Younger, Kennard 12110 - 30010 - 00 pg 355 > Younger, Henry 40010 - 24010-01 p 355 > Younger, Isaac 20010 - 00100- 00 p 355 > > 1810 Boone Co, Ky - p 121 > Peter Younger 10010 - 20010 - 00 > > 1810: > John Younger, Frankfor, Franklin, Ky; p 180: 21110 - > 31010 - 010 > Charles Younger, not stated, Logan Co p 195: 12211 - > 02201-?? > William Younger- not stated, Logan Co p 173: 31100 - > 2000? ?? > Joshua Younger not stated, Montgomery Co; p 383: > 2????-???? > (where ? is at-- not complete page & can't tell who > is listed). > > 1810 Logan Co, KY: > Samuel Holoway 21010 - 12010 -?? - 195 > Charles Younger --above p 195 > Stephen Smith 10010 - 21110-?? - 195 > (all three listed as above on census) > > 1820 couldn't find > > 1830 Clay Co, MO; p 292: > Charles L. Younger 0001001000000- 0010001000000 > Coleman L. Younger: 0000100000000 - 1000100000000 > Henry W. Younger 0000100000000 - 0010000000000 > > Other Youngers In 1830 Cen Index: > M. F Younger, not stated, Howard Co, MO > Ruth Younger Mt Washington, Bullitt, KY > Isaac JR Mt Washington, Bullitt, Ky > Elen Mt Washington, Bullitt, Ky > Steven not stated, Lawrence, IN > Joseph- n/state, Bond, IL > Peter : n/stated, Grant, Ky > Knard n/stated, Henry, Ky > Willis n/stated, Hopkins, Ky > Samuel : Russelville, Logan, Ky > William : Russelville, Logan, Ky > Nimrod: n/stated, Morgan, Ky > Joshua, n/stated, Nicholas, Ky > Lewis, n/stated, Nicholas, Ky > Charles n/stated, Pendleton, Ky (0010100000000 - > 0001000000000) > John : n/stated, Shelby Ky > James: Franklin, St Marys, LA > > 1840: > Charles Younger n/stated, Clay, Mo 0000001000000 - > 0000001000000 > Coleman " : not stated, Clay, MO 11000100000000 - > 2010010000000 (pg 3) > (did not find Henry) > > Henry is listed as Harry in 1850 Cen Blue Twp, Co of > Jackson, MO: p 265B > 1/1 Charles Younger 61 farmer 50,000 Ky > Sarah 62 Ky > Adeline 14 MO > 2/2 Booker? John Jailor -- his family & prisoners > in jail. > 3/3 Younger, Harry 38 m farmer 9000 MO > , Beersha 33 Mo > , Helen 18 > , Isabela 16 > , Martha H. 14 > , Richard 12 > , Jospehine 10 > , Caroline 8 > , Coleman 6 > , Sarah A. 4 > pg 266A , James H. 2 MO > Soemato? , Hardin 30 m carpenter " > " , Wiley 23 m do " > > > 1810, 1820 Cen of Bullitt on line at the Bullitt Co, > Web site -- as well as > the 1870 of Bullitt Co. > > Mary Y. > > > > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html

When I was researching my Hanks line in Muskingum and Coshocton County, Ohio, a James family member told me that their James family was related to the James Brothers. Who knows if this is true? These former Quaker families (James, Hanks, and others) came from Loudoun County, Virginia to Ohio in about 1815. Some of these Quakers came down from eastern Pennsylvania in 1750-60s (Jackson, Janney, etc)and others (like the Hanks) came from Virginia to Maryland and converted to Quakerism there. The Quakers did not last long in Virginia due to religious issues, so they scattered other places. Some families went west to Ohio and changed religions, some remained Quakers and went to the Bedford Co., Pennsylvania area and others (like my Jackson line) disappeared other places - probably Kentucky or further south, following the typical migration route (along I-81) into southern Virginia, North Carolina, etc. James only married into my Hanks, so I don't have much on them. Earliest I have is a James James (b. abt 1775) who married Sarah Hanks about 1800? The original James might have been Quakers in Pennsylvania. Just a thought! Kathie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric James" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: RE: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) | As long as you've stumbled across the Purcell-Younger connection, here's | some information, followed by a query. | | Col. Charles Lee Younger, b. Dec 28 1799 Nicholas Co KY, d. Nov 12, 1854, | Osceola, St. Clair MO is the grandfather of the Younger brothers associated | with Jesse & Frank James through Col. Younger's son, Col. Henry Washington | Younger. The elder Col. Younger married Sarah Sullivan Purcell, B. 1782 Crab | Orchard, Lincoln Co KY, d. Jan 11, 1859 in Clay Co Mo. The marriage occurred | on Aug 21, 1807 in Little York, Clark Co IN and was performed by Rev. James | Lemon. They had six children, among whom was Col. Coleman Purcell Younger, | b. Apr 18, 1809 St Charles, MO and d. Apr 11, 1890 in San Jose, Santa Clara | Co CA. Coleman Purcell Younger was an alcalde in California under Mexican | rule. He had been a member of the Missouri State legislature, and in | California became President of the California Society of Pioneers. He also | was associated with Jesse & Frank James' uncle Drury Woodson James, also a | cattleman, who founded Paso Robles, CA. | | It was a mystery where his Purcell name came from until the marriage of his | father to Sarah Sullivan Purcell was discovered in the Hihn-Younger archives | at Santa Cruz College in California a couple in 2002. The question now | remains, what is the ancestry of Sarah Sullivan Purcell? Nothing more is | known of her, other than what I've stated. Does anyone know? | | ERIC JAMES | Stray Leaves, A James Family in America Since 1650 | www.ericjames.org | | Col Younger and Sarah Purcell | | -----Original Message----- | From: Judith Purcell [mailto:[email protected]] | Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:31 PM | To: [email protected] | Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. (brothers) | | Mary -- Supposedly all these outlaws were cousins, but just try and find the | connection. Jesse James was in KY but the family came much later than the | Purcells. | If there is family tie there it is not an obvious one.--Judi | | --- [email protected] wrote: | | > Not really intersted in the Younger Family--just picked up information | > along the way because of the Belle Starr connection to my ex-in-law's | > family. Just know that Grandma Minnie & her #2 husband Rolly Bollin | > were "colorful" characters!!! | > | > You might also be interested to know that Cole Younger & the Dulins | > were cousins. The Dulins's mother was a Younger & sister to Henry. | > Always found that interesting but not surprising. | > Don't know--but it | > wouldn't surprise me if Jesse James was also connected. The Youngers, | > the Dulins & the James all form the same area of Ky-just before they | > all went to Mo. Jesse's step-father was P.B. | > Samuels, don't know now | > who his father was. | > | > Mary | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "David Lee" <[email protected]> | > To: <[email protected]> | > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:28 AM | > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas and James Sr. | > (brothers) | > | > | > > If you are interested in the Younger Family I have | > a bit on them. | > > Cole was not the first "Bad Boy" in that family. | > > "Younger, Thomas, planter on 10 Nov. 1769 | > committed fornication with Mary | > > Dunkan and begot a base born child. He was fined | > 30s. and ordered to give | > > security to keep the county from any charge by | > means of his bastard child | > > called Alexander." | > > If you tell me I can send stuff direct as it is a | > bit large for list. | > > Dave | > > | > > ----- Original Message ----- | > > From: <[email protected]> | > > To: <[email protected]> | > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM | > > Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas | > and James Sr. | > > (brothers) | > > | > > | > >> Henry Washington Younger (b 1810) & Beersheba | > Leighton Fristoe were | > >> the parents of 13/14 ch--one being Cole Younger | > (Thomas Cole?? Have never | > >> seen Thomas as being his 1st name). Beings the | > Youngers moved to | > >> Mo--there is a Younger Family Assoc. Have seen | > articles about the | > >> Youngers. Henry owned slaves in Bullitt Co. and | > Cole had a black half | > >> sister (documented if you care to check). | > >> | > >> Rumored for years that Cole was the f/o Myra | > Maybelle Shirley's dau | > >> Rosie "Pearl". Both denied this. Myra Maybelle | > (aka Belle Starr). Rosie | > >> reportidly d/o John Reed & Myra Maybelle. John & | > Myra had a son Ed, too, | > >> who was born in TX. Myra Maybelle m Sam Starr in | > Ok; lived in the Eufalia | > >> area (the same area as my | > Ramseys/Bouland/Bolins). Since the Ramseys | > >> lived in Ark & Ok- hard to know which!!! My | > daus' GGm Minnie Belle | > >> Ramsey Tague Bollin d Montrose, Effingham, IL | > (don't ask me how she got | > >> there from Ark!!!). Minnie Belle--named Belle for | > Belle | > >> Starr. Belle & Elizabeth Bouland/Bolin Ramsey | > were supposidly friends. | > >> The Ramsey Family were at the same barn raising | > when Belle shot Sam | > >> in the foot during an argument with him. Was told | > this years ago by | > >> Grandma Minnie but thought she was "telling a | > tall tale"!! Was very | > >> surprised when I read an article about Belle | > Starr in a magazine (IE: | > >> True West, Old West, West; Frontier Times but | > don't remember which) | > >> which related the incident as well as other | > things. | > >> | > >> Grandma Minnie could remember riding a pinto pony | > across the Indian | > >> Reservation in Ok & her grandfather couldn't | > speak a word of English. | > >> Her parents were married at Sugarloaf, Cherokee | > Nation, OK & are | > >> buried at Eufalia. | > >> | > >> Grandma Minnie's dau Lela Tague m Harry Yoder-- I | > married their | > >> son. | > >> | > >> Isn't genealogy great!!! You find out all kinds | > of things!!! | > >> | > >> Mary Yoder | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> ----- Original Message ----- | > >> From: "Judith Purcell" <[email protected]> | > >> To: <[email protected]> | > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:33 PM | > >> Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, | > Thomas and James Sr. | > >> (brothers) | > >> | > >> | > >>> To David Lee - Sorry I don't have anything on | > Sarah | > >>> Sullivan Purcell with me. I will get back to | > you | > >>> later. By memory I can tell you there was a | > Henry | > >>> Younger in Bullitt County and Sarah and Charles | > must | > >>> have run off to Indiana to get married in | > Indiana. | > >>> Neither lived there. So we SUPPOSE that the | > most | > >>> likely connection with this couple and the | > Purcells | > >>> was with Thomas Purcell and wife Elenor | > Sullivan. A | > >>> younger descendant told me that she said her | > middle | > >>> name was Sullivan. Daniel Sullivan who would | > have | > >>> been her uncle was very well known in his day | > though | > >>> some might say as much infamous as famous. He | > was an | > >>> intrepter for the Delware Indians, spy for the Americans, | > >>> considered a traditor because he | > helped the | > >>> Delware Indians, etc. Sorry that I couldn't be | > of | > >>> more help. Judi Purcell | > >>> | > >>> | > >>> | > >>> --- David Lee <[email protected]> wrote: | > >>> | > >>>> I would be interested in anything on Sarah | > Sullivan | > >>>> Purcell. | > >>>> Do you have the Nelson Co. marriages? Most are | > in | > >>>> there twice once as | > >>>> Purcell & again as Pursell. | > >>>> Except for Thomas m. Rebecca Thatcher Feb. 4, | > 1796. | > >>>> Are these kin to Samuel Clements aka Mark | > Twain? | > >>>> Becky Thatcher was the girl | > >>>> in Tom Sawyer. | > >>>> Dave | > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- | > >>>> From: "Judith Purcell" | > <[email protected]> | > >>>> To: <[email protected]> | > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM | > >>>> Subject: [KYNELSON-L] PURCELLS, Dennis, Thomas | > and | > >>>> James Sr. (brothers) | > >>>> | > >>>> | > >>>> > Dennis, Thomas and James Purcell (Pursley, | > etc.) | > >>>> were | > >>>> > sons of Daniel Purcell who with wife Keziah Hite?)lived in | > >>>> > Frederick County, Maryland. | > These | > >>>> sons | > >>>> > came to Nelson County, KY about 1780. | > Another | > >>>> son, | > >>>> > John Purcell, stayed in Frederick (Allegany), | > >>>> County | > >>>> > Maryland. Daniel Purcell is first found just | > >>>> across | > >>>> > the Potomac River in Hamphshire County, VA | > around | > >>>> > 1750. | > >>>> > Thomas PURCELL settled in Nelson/Bullitt | > County | > >>>> with | > >>>> > wife Elenor SULLIVAN in 1780. They had | > children | > >>>> Isaac | > >>>> > PURCELL (wife Rebecca Collins) d. 1805 | > Bullitt | > >>>> County; | > >>>> > John PURCELL (wife Theodocia) lived Bullitt | > >>>> County; | > >>>> > Catherine Sullivan PURCELL wife of Hezekiah | > >>>> LARD/LAIRD | > >>>> > who moved to St. Louis, MO. Possible other | > >>>> chidren of | > >>>> > Thomas and Elenor PURCELL: Susy PURCELL who | > >>>> married | > >>>> > Thomas MIDDLETON, and Sarah Sullivan PURCELL | > who | > >>>> > married Charles YOUNGER in Indiana. | > >>>> > Dennis Purcell and wife Susanna | > (Biggerstaff?) and | > >>>> > James Purcell, Sr. and wife Elizabeth lived | > in | > >>>> Nelson | > >>>> > County. | > >>>> > I would like to hear from anyone who has | > interest | > >>>> in | > >>>> > the Purcells of Nelson and Bullitt | > >>>> Counties.--Judith | > >>>> > Purcell | > >>>> > | > >>>> > | > >>>> > | > __________________________________________________ | > >>>> > Do You Yahoo!? | > >>>> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam | > >>>> protection around | > >>>> > http://mail.yahoo.com | > >>>> > | > >>>> | > >>>> | > >>> | > >>> | > >>> | > __________________________________________________ | > >>> Do You Yahoo!? | > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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I don't know if this will be of help to any of you or not, but thought I'd pass it on. You can get copies of these from the following web site. http://www.copies1918.com/bullitb.html Take good care, Jude BULLITT COUNTY WILLS Vol. B: 1803-1824 16PurcellIsaacsettlement 273PurcellJohnwill 290PurcellJohninventory/appraisement 291PurcellJohnestate sale