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    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups
    2. Hi Barbara, What is your davis line?

    07/13/2005 03:13:21
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] KY families
    2. Lori
    3. Hi Betty, > It seems like the Abell (however you spell it) families went all over the eastern side of the US. Maybe one of these connects with yours. Mary Kathryn ABELL married George Edward Rapier in 1875, and that is where the Abell comes into my family tree. Lori

    07/13/2005 01:20:51
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] KY families
    2. betty parsons lieber
    3. Hi, Lori, It seems like the Abell (however you spell it) families went all over the eastern side of the US. Maybe one of these connects with yours. I'll keep watching. Best to you, Betty __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    07/13/2005 10:53:42
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] FW: CLEMENT S HILL 10483, MARION CO
    2. Phillip & Eleanor Bryan Miles were the parents of Dorothy Miles who m John Johnson (s/o Leonard) 1801 Nelson Co, Ky. John Johnson, bro to my George Johnson (m Eleanor Dawson Nelson Co). John & Dorothy Miles Johnson's son Sylverster ( Mildred Boone (d/o John & ? Howard Boone; g/dau of Walter Boone) was 1st cousin to my 2nd GGM Henrietta Johnson Merrifield. One should realize/be aware that Pottinger's Creek which springs up in Marion Co (formerly Washington Co) empties into the Rolling Ford River a short distance below New Haven, Nelson Co. The Rolling Fork River is the border between Nelson & LaRue (formerly Hardin Co). LaRue Co also boarders Marion Co. The afore mentioned Boones, Johnsons, Merrifield's are buried at St Catherine's Cath. Cem at New Haven. While the Merrifield's were not catholic-- my branch became so when Henrietta m Samuel Merrifield in 1839.. Mary Y. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dottie Brentlinger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: [KYNELSON-L] FW: CLEMENT S HILL 10483, MARION CO > Sandi Gorin sent this on her Biographies list. As it mentions Nelson Co > and Bardstown, I thought the Nelson Co list would be interested. Dottie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandi Gorin [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: CLEMENT S HILL 10483, MARION CO > > I have no connection and no further information. Sandi > > 10483 MARION CO - HILL, CLEMENT S - Hill, Miles, Pottinger, > Cartwright, > Hamilton, Spalding, Byrne, Chapeze, Clay, Rives > > #10483: Genealogy and Biography, Volume IV, 2nd edition, 1885, Marion > Co. > HON. CLEMENT S. HILL. Among the old Catholic families that at an early > period in the history of the State became identified with its pioneer > history and development, none have occupied a more conspicuous and > honorable place than the one represented by the subject of this sketch. > About the middle of the last century Thomas Hill, a member of an old > English Catholic family, immigrated to America and settled in St. Mary's > County, Md., where, abut the year 1754, he married Rebecca Miles, a > representative of another family of similar faith, who bore him a family > of > seven children - three sons and four daughters. At the beginning of the > year 1787, he, with his brother-in-law, Philip Miles, living up to that > time near Leonardtown, St. Mary's Co., Md., arranged to remove their > families to Kentucky. Their proposed journey was begun in February, and > toward the end of March, on the very day they expected to land above the > falls of the Ohio, their boat was fired on by the Indians. A negro slave > of > Thomas Hill was killed, besides several horses, and he himself was > seriously wounded by the passage of an ounce ball through both of his > thighs. This happened about eighteen miles above Louisville. The boat > was > soon carried by the current beyond reach of the savages' guns and before > night its living freight of men, women and children was safely housed in > that town. Soon after the entire party went to Bardstown where they > remained a year, and Thomas Hill, owing to the severity of his wounds, > for > a much longer time. In March, 1788, Philip Miles and Harry Hill, son of > Thomas Hill, purchased lands in the Pottinger's Creek settlement, to > which > they removed immediately and upon which they passed the remainder of > their > days. Thomas Hill, after recovering from his wounds, moved from > Bardstown > to Cartwright's Creek, in the spring of 1789, where he soon purchased > land > and entered upon the life of farmer. He was very zealous in his > Catholic > faith nd was one of the chief promoters of the strong Catholic colony > which > afterward centered in that locality; and was chiefly instrumental in > erecting the first house of worship there. He labored also to provide > for > his children every facility for culture that was within his means, and > especially to found them securely in the Catholic faith, and to present > to > them reasonable motives for its constant and systematic practice. His > death > occurred in 1820, at the ripe age of ninety-seven years, and his > descendants are numerously distributed through the South and the West. > Clement Hill, the youngest son of Thomas Hill, remained with his parents > until after his majority, when he married, in 1798, Mary Hamilton, a > daughter of Thomas Hamilton, whose cousin Leonard was the maternal > grandfather of the late Most Rev. M. J. Spalding, bishop of Louisville > and > archbishop of Baltimore. In the year 1803 he removed to and opened a > farm > lying within two miles of the site of the present town of Lebanon, where > he > lived to the date of his death, December 13, 1832. He was a man of > exemplary faith and piety, true to the tenets of his church, and of > unquestioned integrity in all the relations of life. He was the father > of > seventeen children born of one wife. Clement S. Hill, son of Clement, to > whom this sketch is chiefly dedicated, was born on the old homestead > near > Lebanon, on the 13th of February 1813. He received a thorough education > at > St. Mary's College, Lebanon, when that institution was still controlled > by > its founder, Rev. Wm. Byrne. He afterward taught school in different > parts > of the State, and subsequently pursued the study of law under the late > Benjamin Chapeze, of Bardstown, a lawyer of great ability and a man of > singular worth and purity of character, and in the fall of 1837 was > admitted to the bar. He located at Lebanon, and, being possessed of an > analytic mind and of rare gifts as a speaker, soon secured a lucrative > practice and full recognition of his legal acquirements at the hands of > the > leading lawyers of the State, among whom he soon occupied the front > rank. > He continued in active practice, adding constantly to his reputation as > a > successful practitioner down to 1885, feeling the effects of years of > close > professional study and of active work as an advocate, he relaxed his > energies and made way for younger men. As a general practitioner Mr. > Hill > has had few superiors at the Kentucky bar. To an unexampled skill as a > pleader, he had the added qualities of a strong advocate and an > exceeding > aptitude in the taking of proof and the establishment of his case. > Politically Mr. Hill was formerly a Henry Clay Whig, but since the > dissolution of the Whig party has acted more or less with political > independence. He was a strong Union man during the late civil war, and > was > authorized by the Government to raise a regiment for the national > defense, > but was prevented by failing health from taking the field. In 1839 he > was > elected on local issues to the lower branch of the State Legislature, > and > in 1853, the Fifth District in Congress, serving the full term at > Washington. In his religious belief he is a firm and ardent supporter of > the Catholic faith. Since 1846 he has resided on his farm about two > miles > from Lebanon, coming to the county seat each day to attend his > professional > business. He was married November 24, 1840, to Miss Alathair, daughter > of > Joseph Spalding, of Marion County, who became the mother of twelve > children. Of these four only attained years of maturity: Ann Mary, > Clement > J. (who died a farmer and left seven children), John B. (who died at the > age of twenty-four) and Susan (wife of H. W. Rives, a native of > Mississippi > practicing law at Lebanon. > > > Sandi's Puzzlers: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html > SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html > GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ > > > ==== KYBIOGRAPHIES Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from KYBIOGRAPHIES in the list mode (daily messages) send > a request to: [email protected] and say unsubscribe > in the message. > > > > >

    07/13/2005 09:33:18
    1. FW: CLEMENT S HILL 10483, MARION CO
    2. Dottie Brentlinger
    3. Sandi Gorin sent this on her Biographies list. As it mentions Nelson Co and Bardstown, I thought the Nelson Co list would be interested. Dottie -----Original Message----- From: Sandi Gorin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: CLEMENT S HILL 10483, MARION CO I have no connection and no further information. Sandi 10483 MARION CO - HILL, CLEMENT S - Hill, Miles, Pottinger, Cartwright, Hamilton, Spalding, Byrne, Chapeze, Clay, Rives #10483: Genealogy and Biography, Volume IV, 2nd edition, 1885, Marion Co. HON. CLEMENT S. HILL. Among the old Catholic families that at an early period in the history of the State became identified with its pioneer history and development, none have occupied a more conspicuous and honorable place than the one represented by the subject of this sketch. About the middle of the last century Thomas Hill, a member of an old English Catholic family, immigrated to America and settled in St. Mary's County, Md., where, abut the year 1754, he married Rebecca Miles, a representative of another family of similar faith, who bore him a family of seven children - three sons and four daughters. At the beginning of the year 1787, he, with his brother-in-law, Philip Miles, living up to that time near Leonardtown, St. Mary's Co., Md., arranged to remove their families to Kentucky. Their proposed journey was begun in February, and toward the end of March, on the very day they expected to land above the falls of the Ohio, their boat was fired on by the Indians. A negro slave of Thomas Hill was killed, besides several horses, and he himself was seriously wounded by the passage of an ounce ball through both of his thighs. This happened about eighteen miles above Louisville. The boat was soon carried by the current beyond reach of the savages' guns and before night its living freight of men, women and children was safely housed in that town. Soon after the entire party went to Bardstown where they remained a year, and Thomas Hill, owing to the severity of his wounds, for a much longer time. In March, 1788, Philip Miles and Harry Hill, son of Thomas Hill, purchased lands in the Pottinger's Creek settlement, to which they removed immediately and upon which they passed the remainder of their days. Thomas Hill, after recovering from his wounds, moved from Bardstown to Cartwright's Creek, in the spring of 1789, where he soon purchased land and entered upon the life of farmer. He was very zealous in his Catholic faith nd was one of the chief promoters of the strong Catholic colony which afterward centered in that locality; and was chiefly instrumental in erecting the first house of worship there. He labored also to provide for his children every facility for culture that was within his means, and especially to found them securely in the Catholic faith, and to present to them reasonable motives for its constant and systematic practice. His death occurred in 1820, at the ripe age of ninety-seven years, and his descendants are numerously distributed through the South and the West. Clement Hill, the youngest son of Thomas Hill, remained with his parents until after his majority, when he married, in 1798, Mary Hamilton, a daughter of Thomas Hamilton, whose cousin Leonard was the maternal grandfather of the late Most Rev. M. J. Spalding, bishop of Louisville and archbishop of Baltimore. In the year 1803 he removed to and opened a farm lying within two miles of the site of the present town of Lebanon, where he lived to the date of his death, December 13, 1832. He was a man of exemplary faith and piety, true to the tenets of his church, and of unquestioned integrity in all the relations of life. He was the father of seventeen children born of one wife. Clement S. Hill, son of Clement, to whom this sketch is chiefly dedicated, was born on the old homestead near Lebanon, on the 13th of February 1813. He received a thorough education at St. Mary's College, Lebanon, when that institution was still controlled by its founder, Rev. Wm. Byrne. He afterward taught school in different parts of the State, and subsequently pursued the study of law under the late Benjamin Chapeze, of Bardstown, a lawyer of great ability and a man of singular worth and purity of character, and in the fall of 1837 was admitted to the bar. He located at Lebanon, and, being possessed of an analytic mind and of rare gifts as a speaker, soon secured a lucrative practice and full recognition of his legal acquirements at the hands of the leading lawyers of the State, among whom he soon occupied the front rank. He continued in active practice, adding constantly to his reputation as a successful practitioner down to 1885, feeling the effects of years of close professional study and of active work as an advocate, he relaxed his energies and made way for younger men. As a general practitioner Mr. Hill has had few superiors at the Kentucky bar. To an unexampled skill as a pleader, he had the added qualities of a strong advocate and an exceeding aptitude in the taking of proof and the establishment of his case. Politically Mr. Hill was formerly a Henry Clay Whig, but since the dissolution of the Whig party has acted more or less with political independence. He was a strong Union man during the late civil war, and was authorized by the Government to raise a regiment for the national defense, but was prevented by failing health from taking the field. In 1839 he was elected on local issues to the lower branch of the State Legislature, and in 1853, the Fifth District in Congress, serving the full term at Washington. In his religious belief he is a firm and ardent supporter of the Catholic faith. Since 1846 he has resided on his farm about two miles from Lebanon, coming to the county seat each day to attend his professional business. He was married November 24, 1840, to Miss Alathair, daughter of Joseph Spalding, of Marion County, who became the mother of twelve children. Of these four only attained years of maturity: Ann Mary, Clement J. (who died a farmer and left seven children), John B. (who died at the age of twenty-four) and Susan (wife of H. W. Rives, a native of Mississippi practicing law at Lebanon. Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ ==== KYBIOGRAPHIES Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from KYBIOGRAPHIES in the list mode (daily messages) send a request to: [email protected] and say unsubscribe in the message.

    07/13/2005 07:57:10
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] KY families
    2. Dottie Himes
    3. Attentin Betty and all on the list, I will be gone from July 16th till August 8th, so I will get back to you regarding these families that you are interested in as they are my families too, well almost all of them. This is a great list.........and I enjoy it, as my Dad, Guy Henry Porter, Sr family was from Nelson Co, KY. After August 8th, I would like to hear from anyone that has PORTER FAMILY info as well. I am still looking for the parents of Philip Porter. b about 1754. who married Nancy Ann Brent, both from Virginia, she from Frederick, and I have not pinpointed exactly all the places that Philip Porter lived. Thanks in advance as of August 8th. Dottie Porter Himes Dottie Himes Lewisport, KY 42351 [email protected] I love my Family, Genealogy is Addictive but Fun: SURNAMES: Heim, Himes, Ahlers, Shroyer, Swadener /Burch, Clements, Hagan, Hutchins, Porter /Hayden, Mulligan,Young, and many more. -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 07/12/05 19:05:00 To: [email protected] Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [KYNELSON-L] KY families Hi, all, The following are some of my KY families. Hagan, Thompson, Pierceall, O'Bryan, Wheatley, Fowler, Blanford, Spalding, Parsons, Abell, Wafford (Warford, Wofford, Worford), Martin. Welcome any mail re any or all of these people. Best to you, Betty __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    07/13/2005 04:15:26
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] KY families
    2. Lori
    3. Betty, > Hagan, Thompson, Pierceall, O'Bryan, Wheatley, Fowler, Blanford, Spalding, Parsons, Abell, Wafford (Warford, Wofford, Worford), Martin. I have Abel in my family tree, which could be Abell, who knows since I have seen it both ways. :) Lori

    07/12/2005 03:21:55
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] KY families
    2. In a message dated 7/12/2005 8:05:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Blanford, Parsons, Martin.>>What is your connection to these three families? I know someone who is a Martin and her parents were Blanfords. Mary Alice

    07/12/2005 03:00:39
    1. KY families
    2. betty parsons lieber
    3. Hi, all, The following are some of my KY families. Hagan, Thompson, Pierceall, O'Bryan, Wheatley, Fowler, Blanford, Spalding, Parsons, Abell, Wafford (Warford, Wofford, Worford), Martin. Welcome any mail re any or all of these people. Best to you, Betty __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    07/12/2005 11:04:47
    1. Thomas Hill
    2. Joe & Kimbra Smith
    3. I am seeking information on my 2nd great grand father a Thomas HILL. He, I believe, was born in Nelson Co., KY on March 1, 1821. He is found in the 1950 Census in Jackson Twp. Shelby Co., IN. He married Amy May Tucker (b:12/1826 OH) in Bartholomew Co., IN on Dec 4, 1843. They had the following children: Jacob (b: about 1846), William Franklin (b: 5/3/1848), Sarah S (b: 10/23/1849), Thomas Albert (b: About 1852), Margaret E (b: abt 1854) Huldah b: 11/13/1859), Amanda (b: 3/9/1863), Brinton (b: 4/1866) I have been unable to find Thomas in any census before 1850. Other than his marriage to Amy May Tucker. I do not know his parentÂ’s names or any thing other then the info I have given here. If anyone can be assistance I would truly appreciate it. Kimbra

    07/12/2005 08:43:48
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups
    2. I have some information on a Stump Line that married into My Davis Family in Edgar County,IL., Would be happy to share what I have. Barbara

    07/12/2005 08:12:50
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups
    2. That is pretty much what I have got. I just thought that maybe there was something else out there hidden. Thanks, Jeff

    07/12/2005 05:41:37
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups
    2. In a message dated 7/12/2005 2:50:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: What census year??? MANY Edward Quinns!!! Have to spot the right one for you. A Birth year, county, etc would help!!!....It is Nelson County 1870 and in 1870 he was 24 yrs old. There is another Quinn listed very close to him who is 75. Someone sent me a photocopy of this record before I joined this group and they failed to send the whole household record. I have reason to believe this may be my g-g-ggrandfather. Mary Alice

    07/12/2005 05:17:54
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups
    2. David Lee
    3. From the 1850 Census for Nelson Co., KY HH 444 ASH, Peter 75 M VA farmer M. 60 F VA S. 33 F KY P. 25 M KY F(?) 22 M KY Perry 18 M KY S. 16 M KY A. 12 M KY HH 445 ASH, Henry 69 M VA M. 30 F KY H. 26 M KY John 22 M KY Jane 7 F KY HH 442 was Daniel Stump 35 with 4 Rummage HH 443 was Nathan Dacon an S. Stump F age is smeared but could be 21 or 81. I don't see any other Stumps in Nelson Co. Several Ash families shown. In Nelson Co. marriages Peter ASH m Elizabeth Stump Dec 25, 1805 m Macey Stump May 14 1842 This is consistant with M. female 60 in census above. Henry ASH m Margaret Raman Mar. 10, 1803. There are a dozen or more Ash marriages but 1 Stump male. Hope this helps. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups >I would like to know if their is any listing for three people. > > Peter Ash b. 1775 - d. after 1850 > Thomas Stump b. about 1790 - d. ? > Robert B. Stump b. about 1760 - d. after 1830 > > Thanks, > > Jeff Jeppson > Mt. Eden, Kentucky >

    07/12/2005 04:28:27
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups
    2. I would like to know if their is any listing for three people. Peter Ash b. 1775 - d. after 1850 Thomas Stump b. about 1790 - d. ? Robert B. Stump b. about 1760 - d. after 1830 Thanks, Jeff Jeppson Mt. Eden, Kentucky

    07/12/2005 01:17:37
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups
    2. What census year??? MANY Edward Quinns!!! Have to spot the right one for you. A Birth year, county, etc would help!!! Mary Y. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups > Thanks so much for the offers. I am looking for the household that has > Edward Quinn listed and very close to that household there is supposed to > be > another Quinn listed. I would also like that household. Edward was 24 yrs > old. > Any added info the census gives would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks again. > > Mary Alice > >

    07/11/2005 07:49:42
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups
    2. Thanks so much for the offers. I am looking for the household that has Edward Quinn listed and very close to that household there is supposed to be another Quinn listed. I would also like that household. Edward was 24 yrs old. Any added info the census gives would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again. Mary Alice

    07/11/2005 07:41:03
    1. Re: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups
    2. Mary Alice, If you are new to the list-- you will find people here very helpful & willing to help you. This is a GREAT list!!! Post who you are looking for. I have 1840-1880 Nelson Co censuses, Nelson Co Wills to 1834; land records, mgs to 1899. Will be glad to check them for you. Just have to know who I am looking for. Mary Y. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:58 PM Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups >I am new to this list and wondered if anyone had a copy of the Nelson >County > 1870 Census and would do look-ups? > > Mary Alice > >

    07/11/2005 05:40:05
    1. RE: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups
    2. Dottie Brentlinger
    3. Post the names you are looking for. I have Heritagequestonline. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYNELSON-L] Look-ups I am new to this list and wondered if anyone had a copy of the Nelson County 1870 Census and would do look-ups? Mary Alice

    07/11/2005 04:35:46
    1. Look-ups
    2. I am new to this list and wondered if anyone had a copy of the Nelson County 1870 Census and would do look-ups? Mary Alice

    07/11/2005 03:58:24