Charlotte, Yes .. that is my John Randolph, son of John and Anne. My theory on Elizabeth Bland? is that if she is actually a Bland, she is a niece of John Bland of Nelson Co. He left a bequest to niece Nancy, an orphan of his brother. He does not name the brother. Nancy and Elizabeth could be sisters, both being nieces of John. He wouldn't have left anything to Elizabeth because she was already married to a fairly wealthy man. What is so confusing is that the Turkey Island Randolphs also married Blands, they just seem to fit together in some way. Who knows? I read somewhere that a William Randolph, b. 1670 in England, was the father of John Randolph Sr., and was brought here by William of Turkey Island. It implied that they were related in some way. Of course I have no proof that any of these theories have any validity. Thanks for the info. OH .. let me make one correction in your info below. Margaret Randolph, b. Oct. 20, 1784 m. James Nicholls (not Elizabeth) ... Prudence, who married Jesse Reno was Elizabeth Prudence. Nice to meet another Prince William Randolph Cousin ! DeAnna ----- Original Message ----- From: "H Johnson" <hjohnson80@comcast.net> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > DeAnna, > > Are you researching John Randolph, the son of John Randolph, who died in > 1789, Prince William Co. Virginia, and Ann Osborne? > > Their son, John Randolph, was born 1750-52, Prince William Co. Va. and died > Dec. 26, 1822, East Baton Rouge Parish, La. He married Elizabeth > .......(Family tradition says she was Elizabeth Bland, who may be related to > John Bland and Margaret Osborne, sister of Ann Osborne, who married John > Randolph, d. 1789. She is not named in John Bland's will, though, and the > reason for the question. There is no close relationship with this John > Bland/Margaret Osborne and Frances Bland, daughter of Theodorick Bland, who > married John Randolph, the son of Richard Randolph/Jane Bolling, and > grandson of William Randolph/Mary Isham. > > John Bland/Margaret Osborne migrated from Prince William Co. Virginia to > Nelson County, Ky. Their daughter Mary (Molly) Bland married Thomas Osborne > Randolph, a brother to John Randolph, Jr., b. 1750-52, in 1790, Nelson Co. > Ky. Thomas Osborne Randolph/Mary Molly Bland and family, eventually > migrated to White Co. Ill. > > John Randolph, Jr./Elizabeth Bland(?) had four children: > 1. John Randolph, III, b. abt. 1777, married 1.Polly McFarland 2. Mary > Catherine Kleinpeter. > 2. Prudence Randolph, b. abt. 1778, married Jesse Reno. > 3. Elizabeth Randolph, b. 1784, married James Nicholls. > 4. Robert Randolph, b. abt. 1782, married Polly Cross. > > Some of my information is from Blanche Randolph's book, "The Randolphs of > Prince William County, Virginia". > > I descend from William Randolph, b. about 1756, the brother of John > Randolph/Elizabeth Bland(?), his son, Robert Randolph, b. abt. 1786, Prince > Wm. Co. Va. Sometimes Robert Randolph, son of John Randolph, Jr., and > Robert Randolph, the son of William Randolph, have been confused in the > genealogies. They were first cousins, and grandsons of John Randolph, d. > 1789, Pr.Wm.Co Va./Ann Osborne. My Robert migrated eventually to Callaway > Co. Missouri and died there in 1860. > > Blanche Randolph does not have any more information about your brick wall, > "My brick wall has always been James Nichols ancestry, his father was James, > his mother was Sarah? and some say they came from Maryland." > > DNA has proven that the Prince William Randolph line is not related to the > Turkey Island Randolph line. (William Randolph I/Mary Isham) The earliest > ancestor with proof, of the Prince William Randolph line, is John Randolph, > died 1789, Prince William Co. Va. > > Charlotte Johnson > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kyfisher" <kyfisher@BELLSOUTH.NET> > To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:23 AM > Subject: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > > > > This is a great list .. very helpful people here. > > > > I would like to connect with anyone researching John Randolph of Virginia > > who went from Nelson County to South Carrollton (originally Randolph's > > Landing) very early. John's brother Robert also was there early. > > > > His daughter, Margaret Randolph m. James Nicholls/Nichols in Nelson Co., > > 1800. The two families went almost immediately to Muhlenberg. > > > > John Randolph may have been known as "Capt. Jack" not because of his rank > in > > the Rev. War but because he operated a boat landing and store on the Green > > River where people stopped to rest and did business while taking their > goods > > to sell at Natchez & New Orleans. I found some records of him when I > visited > > a few years ago but James and Margaret Nichols must have led a quiet life, > > rearing their large family on the farm and not getting involved in > anything > > that may have led to more records regarding them. > > > > Thank you > > DeAnna > > > > > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >