Do hope all have a great New Year.... Best to all of you, Margaret

Happy New Year to all the great people on this list and thanks for the help you've given me on the Crockett/Pannell lines over the last few months. Donna Crockett Mowery

From:  Jan,  unicorn@sun-spot.com Ever wonder why those censuses just don't add up sometimes?  Well we all have "our days" when our world is topsy turvy and effects most everything that happens, and I figure a census taker did too.  Of course he might not have realized just how far reaching the effects of his bad day might be… The Census Taker's Home! (from the Sunday Afternoon Rocking series) Well, I'm surely glad to be home, that I am.  I tell you another day like this one and I am good mind just to fill them papers out on memory and be done with it.  Here, put these socks over there next to the fire to dry out, will you?  Got down yonder this mornin and everyone in Household 451 through 486 was gone.  Some big shindig going on down there. Good thing the folks in 441 could tell me who they all was.  Here, reckon you could go over some of the writin on this here page?  Got smeared a bit in the rain.  I think you can cipher most of it out. Then them folks down in the holler got suspicious over a census.  Said, and derned if they had a point, what difference did it make who they was? Was them guvment folks up in Warshington going to come down here to say howdy do?  So they finally let me write down they last name and first initial, but I think they wuz havin a bit of fun with me when they listed who lived in the house.  Saw some winkin goin on and I believe I got the same house a youngins in two or three places.  It been a day, woman.  Honey, git that paper out of Johnny's mouth,will ya?  I worked all day on that thing, and no call  to let him go chewin it up. Went up the river a piece and tried to get that done fore it come a downpour, but run into trouble there too. Ole Man Jenkins curr dog run me off and I tell you, ain't no call to get eat up over such a thing as this. They ort to be a limit what a man does for his country.  Was lucky man down the road mostly knew Jenkins was nigh on sixty years old and was living there with his woman and five youngins from his first marriage plus a passel from the second. We give em good Christian names. Best be doin something bout this pen.  It give out on me halfway through. See you havin trouble too.  Johnny!  Hand that here, boy! And I tell you I would ruther fight grandpap's British than mess with that feller out on the ridge.  He got out his shotgun soon as he seen me comin and I went t'other direction.  Had Jones tell me about him instead, and he didn't rightly know the feller's first name…said they called him "Squirrel", and it was ok just to put that cause wasn't nobody around here claimin him no how, and they for sure didn't want the guvment knowin there was any relationship.  That coffee done? Then got over to Smiths, and ole Hoss was in a nervous fit so wasn't no getting information there.  His woman havin another youngin and he looked like he could run right through me when I went to askin how many youngins he had now.  Hightailed it out of there, and Miz Hart helped me straighten that household out. Think we got most of the names straight, and as he has had a youngin a year for the last ten, ages purty close too. Now look what Johnny went and done! I tell you, next time this come around I ain't gonna be no where in sight.  Farmin a heap easier, and I figger there folks round here what can read and write and cipher and ain't no good fer nothing else we can spare for this foolishness.  Pass me another tater, will you? Just a thought <BG>, jan Copyright ©2000JanPhilpot ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (Note: Afternoon Rocking messages are meant to be passed on, meant to be shared...simply share as written without alterations...and in entirety. Thanks, jan) Sunday Afternoon Rocking columns are distributed weekly on the list Sunday Rocking. This is not a "reply to" list, and normally only one message per week will come across it, that being the column. To subscribe send email to Sundayrocking-subscribe@topica.com Comments about the content of these messages can be sent to unicorn@sun-spot.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

ok, normally i dont do this, but, i figure since i have recieved this "virus" a couple times in the last few days that i would warn everyone. the senders e-mail address is hahaha@sexyfun.net (which was a big tip off to me.) and the subeject lines says, "Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!" the e-mail has an attachment which is titled joke.exe so if you recieve this, please DO NOT download it....please make sure that your virus protection software is up to date, most programs have a website that you can go to to update your existing software to detect new viruses.....Please be safe.... Tim

Thanks Tim, We wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! We miss hearing from you... Erma and Howard McKinley

Thank you Tim... May God richly bless and keep you and yours safe now and all thru the next year.... Margaret La Rue

I just thought that i would wish everyone a Merry Christmas. I hope the holidays have been good to you and to your loved ones.... Tim

David JONES was the son of George Jones and Rachel B. Faith and he was born Nov. 3, 1825 in Indiana. He married Julia Vincent on Sept. 20, 1849 in Muhlenberg County, Kentucky. The children of David Jones and Julia Ann Vincent: 1. William Clayborn Jones b. March 15, 1851 died Jan. 7, 1940 2. Sylvester Paris Jones b. July 22, 1853 died Jan. 17, 1918 3. James F. Jones b. Aug. 12, 1855 died May 10, 1898 4. David Edmond Jones b. Feb. 8, 1858 died July 18, 1908 5. Mary T. Jones b. Feb. 21, 1861 died March 8, 1945 6. Robert C. Jones b. April 30, 1863 died April 7, 1935 7. Jesse Bradley Jones b. Sept. 20, 1865 died Jan. 17, 1956 8. Charles M. Jones b. Feb. 12, 1868 died Dec. 21, 1950 9. Julia Bell Jones b. Feb. 20, 1870 died Jan. 15, 1937 10. Malissa Ann Jones b. July 5, 1872 died Jan. 10, 1937 11. John Lewis Jones b. Aug. 7, 1874 died Aug. 3, 1970 NUMBER 9. Julia Bell Jones Feb. 20, 1862 to 1937 Daughter of Julia Ann Vincent Jones and David G. Jones Married Azro Vincent December 2, 1869 to 1958 son of David Edmond Vincent and Nannie/Nancy Watkins. Julia Bell Jones and Azro Vincent had daughter: Ethel Vincent Nov. 11, 1902 to Dec. 31, 1982 I am searching for leads as to where in Indiana David Jones was born.And where his parents RACHEL FAITH & GEORGE JONES were born,Possibly in NC. Tamara

That was great!!!!! Margaret La Rue

From: jan, unicorn@sun-spot.com (j) Because of the upcoming holidays, Sunday Afternoon Rocking is being sent early. Wishing each of you a wonderful warm time shared with people you love. ~jan ****************************************************************************** *********************************** A Hundred Years...and What Matters? (From the "Sunday Afternoon Rocking" series) "To Grandmama. 1901. Cole and Della, age 20 and 18 years". The picture of the young couple, she so clear faced and smiling, dark eyes dancing... and he with his dark handsome youthful look captivated me. But I could not place the names, and it took several months before I learned the connection, and why the small picture was in a box of old family photos. The discovery was bittersweet. I had hoped to learn this young couple, heads lovingly bent together, grew out of the youth forever captured by a camera. I had hoped to learn they had a house full of children, that they had lived to smile just as sweetly in a photograph fifty years later. Instead I learned she lived but two years after the photograph was made, he ten. 1901. A hundred years ago, and yet if only the hairstyles and clothing were different...this could be a young couple of today beginning life with the hope of youth. 2001. Not so long ago...not so different...and they little imagined that a hundred years from the day that photograph was taken, it would cause the pattern of thinking to begin that stitched together 1901 and 2001... 2001. 1901. A hundred years have passed, and although I certainly did not live all of the hundred, they do not seem so long to me...I can touch them. I can remember well the grandfather who knew 1901 as an adult. If I have never known any other transportation than an automobile, I knew well the generation that grew to adulthood with a horse and wagon. If I have made my own home other than a few years in no house that did not have electricity and indoor plumbing, I knew well a generation that lived over half a lifetime with neither. If I never remember a day in my life that I was not able to see an airplane in the sky, or know world-wide media communication, I knew well the generation that first gazed with wonder on such. A hundred years in a family and what is different? A hundred years and we have bid goodbye to as many close kindred. A hundred years and my grandparents' grandchildren, great grandchildren, great great grandchildren are born. A hundred years and a world is peopled by an entirely different population. A hundred years and we live drastically different from all of the generations that preceded us. 1901. 2001. It is not the differences that connect us… but the similarities. A hundred years and the legacy left to us by those living in 1901 have little to do with the possessions of a hundred years ago. A hundred years and the legacy is just as relevant in 2001 as in 1901....for it rests not in a shoemaker's tool, a crosscut saw, wooden spools of thread... A hundred years and there is indeed a material legacy...the button box, the yellowed photographs, the tattered quilts and papers and letters. There are odd bits of furniture and a few farm tools. But those things are not the true legacy. None are things a present generation could really find useful, yet none are things any one of the descendents would sell. None are legacies that will found a dynasty of material wealth, and none are things a descendent considers in such terms. The richness is far too great to be labeled with a price tag, and far too great to be converted to monetary terms. The richness lies in the intangible. The legacy lies in that which cannot be touched or sold, bought or traded. The legacy lies not in the irrelevancy of pieces and scraps remaining from a household of 1901...but in the relevancy. The legacy lies in the stories, the values, the traditions. The scraps of fabric, buttons, papers...they are only tangible invitations to retell and remember the intangible legacy. 2001. 2101. My birth was such that I doubt I will be the link a descendent of 2101 may be able to think of and remember well, may be able to say about: "I can touch the past". But my children may well be. May I remember, and may they, that the material possessions we accumulate, the accolades, none of this will matter. A hundred years will pass and the legacy left to those of another century by those of us living in 2001 will have little to do with possessions. Some possessions there may be that survive, that adorn homes, that are cherished...but they will be only invitations. Let the stories that unfold to the invited be those of value, of tradition...of courage, of hope, of faith, of inspiration. The size of my home will not help a child of a hundred years from this one. Other than as a curiosity, my salary will make no difference to a descendent. The balance in my checkbook will be of little consolation to the woes that will unfold for a generation a hundred years from now. Not one possession that is in my home will make one whit of difference to an aching heart scores of years from now. A hundred years from now and what will matter? What in my life might truly make a difference for those of another world unimaginable by myself? Nothing. Nothing but the stories. just a thought, jan Copyright ©2000JanPhilpot ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (Note: Afternoon Rocking messages are meant to be passed on, meant to be shared...simply share as written without alterations...and in entirety. Thanks, jan) Sunday Afternoon Rocking columns are distributed weekly on the list Sunday Rocking. This is not a "reply to" list, and normally only one message per week will come across it, that being the column. 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In a message dated 12/20/00 3:06:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, KYMUHLEN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I am a new subscriber to the Muhlenberg County list > and thought I would see if anyone else is working > on the Kincheloe family of Muhlenberg. I am looking > for information on Peter Kincheloe, died there in abt. > 1830. His name is listed on the marker in front > of the courthouse as a Revolutionary War soldier. > > Any other Kincheloe researches out there?? HI Diane, Not searching KINCHELOE's, BUT I know there is a cemetery located outside of Central City, near the river nameds "Kincheloe's Bluff" now goes by BLUFF Cem. I have some ancestors buried there. Good Luck! Terri

Donna, Please contact the Genealogical & Local History Annex of the Muhlenberg County Public Library and request a a copy of the will. Their e-mail address is mcplgha@muhlon.com. During a recent visit to the county, my wife and I visited the Annex and I was given a business card and told to contact them if I needed assistance. They are suppose to have the ability to access the image of the document and then send it by e-mail to the requestor. There are three ladies working there: Carol Brown, Coni Wallace and Sandra Galyen. You should provide the information concerning person, will book and page number. I missed your first message which started the discussion, and your interest in the Pannell line. I have connections to the William mentioned as a witness. He married Saluda Ann Walker, my great great grandaunt and daughter of Thomas Walker and Saluda Bailey. Don Summers Southport, FL

Evelyn-- I really appreciate the information. The abstract of the will of Sharon Crockett sounds promising since William was in the 1860 census of Muhlenberg Co. Is there any way you could possibly get a copy of Sharon Crockett's will or some kind of record of William Winters inheriting the Crockett property? Are you sure your name isn't "Santa"? Donna Evelyn wrote: Hi, Donna, Muhlenberg Co. cemeteries are recorded in four volumes. I do not have Vol. I which is the northwest quarter of the county. I checked the other three volumes but did not find any Crocketts. There are some Pannells buried in Evergreen Cem. which is in Greenville and some buried in Friendship Cem. which is 2 1/2 miles south of Greenville. Your Eliza was not there, but this gives an idea of where the Pannells lived. My Muhl. Co. Edwards and Shutts were back and forth across county lines of Muhl. and Todd counties. You might want to check Todd Co. Abstracts of Wills for Muhl. 1799-1877 only show Susan Crockett's will dated July 13, 1855, proven 1859 June. She appoints husband, William Crockett as executor and states the property (after of death of both) to go to "good friend William Winters....I intend to make him my adopted son-in-law". [Book III, page 181} The only Pannell mentioned in this will book is William who is a witness to Thomas Terry's will. I'm sorry that I could not find more for you. Let me know if I can further help you. Evelyn

http://www.copies1918.net/muhlenberg-land1.html Deed records as well... Charlotte<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

http://www.copies1918.net/muhlenburgky.html More Wills from Muhlenburgh County KY as well... Charlotte<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

Evelyn: Who are your EDWARDS in Muhlenberg? I am working on John EDWARDS who lived on the Pond River, 1830's thru 1855 when he died. He married first Polly BASS before coming to Muhlenberg from Wilson County, Tenn. He married 2nd Nancy WELLS, probably a widow, in 1845 Muhlenberg County. Any connection with your EDWARDS? Debbie McArdle AEFNCH@aol.com wrote: > Hi, Donna, > Muhlenberg Co. cemeteries are recorded in four volumes. I do not have > Vol. I which is the northwest quarter of the county. I checked the other > three volumes but did not find any Crocketts. There are some Pannells buried > in Evergreen Cem. which is in Greenville and some buried in Friendship Cem. > which is 2 1/2 miles south of Greenville. Your Eliza was not there, but this > gives an idea of where the Pannells lived. My Muhl. Co. Edwards and Shutts > were back and forth across county lines of Muhl. and Todd counties. You > might want to check Todd Co. > Abstracts of Wills for Muhl. 1799-1877 only show Susan Crockett's will > dated July 13, 1855, proven 1859 June. She appoints husband, William > Crockett as executor and states the property (after of death of both) to go > to "good friend William Winters....I intend to make him my adopted > son-in-law". [Book III, page 181} > The only Pannell mentioned in this will book is William who is a witness > to Thomas Terry's will. > I'm sorry that I could not find more for you. Let me know if I can > further help you. > > Evelyn > > ============================== > Get Free Access to over 900 million names from Dec 7 until Dec 21!http://www.ancestry.com/home/celebrate/freeaccess.htm?sourcecode=736

Hi, Donna, Muhlenberg Co. cemeteries are recorded in four volumes. I do not have Vol. I which is the northwest quarter of the county. I checked the other three volumes but did not find any Crocketts. There are some Pannells buried in Evergreen Cem. which is in Greenville and some buried in Friendship Cem. which is 2 1/2 miles south of Greenville. Your Eliza was not there, but this gives an idea of where the Pannells lived. My Muhl. Co. Edwards and Shutts were back and forth across county lines of Muhl. and Todd counties. You might want to check Todd Co. Abstracts of Wills for Muhl. 1799-1877 only show Susan Crockett's will dated July 13, 1855, proven 1859 June. She appoints husband, William Crockett as executor and states the property (after of death of both) to go to "good friend William Winters....I intend to make him my adopted son-in-law". [Book III, page 181} The only Pannell mentioned in this will book is William who is a witness to Thomas Terry's will. I'm sorry that I could not find more for you. Let me know if I can further help you. Evelyn

I am a new subscriber to the Muhlenberg County list and thought I would see if anyone else is working on the Kincheloe family of Muhlenberg. I am looking for information on Peter Kincheloe, died there in abt. 1830. His name is listed on the marker in front of the courthouse as a Revolutionary War soldier. Any other Kincheloe researches out there?? Diane

Hi, list-- Does anyone know how I could find the death records/wills for William Crockett who was last known in South Carrollton, Muhlenberg Co., KY in 1860 at age 81 (living with his daughter and family), and his daughter, Eliza Ann Crockett Pannell b. 1812 last known in Central City, KY 1882. They could have died anywhere in KY. Would they be at a library/funeral home that has old records? Happy holidays! Donna

From: jan, unicorn@sun-spot.com Something No One Can Take Away (from the "Sunday Afternoon Rocking" series) "How many of you are the first in your family to graduate from college?", the President of the university asked. And from the ranks of mortarboards rose close to a third of the class, to proudly proclaim what is possible in our nation. And whether they realized it or not, they were a living embodiment of what our pioneers dreamed when they faced an open ocean and sailed, to literally carve from nothing but the wildness of an uncharted country a new nation, a new opportunity for their children and the children to come. It was what they dreamed when they challenged daunting mountains without a guide, rode rivers, waded swamps, plowed through the canebreak of an impossible wilderness determined to hold them at bay. HE rose when that question was asked, and my heart near to bursting, I slipped a sidelong peek at the proud mother nearby, and seeing tears bathing her face in clear abandonment, I allowed my own to flow. They were accustomed to risking, our ancestors. And seeing things lost, and taken away. Fires did it, floods did it, draughts did it, wars did it, early death and illness, financial hardships, all were responsible again and again for disaster. All precipitated the knowledge there was nothing to do but what they did, roll up their shirtsleeves and begin again. There were no insurance policies, no "backup plan", nothing for a "rainy day" all too often, and those who preceded ourselves knew only to begin again. Most of us either lived, or know intimately those who did, the Depression, the war years, much harder times than what we live today. Many of us can look at the path a family has trod, regardless of our problems, and truthfully say this family was working for a time for their family when things might not be so easily lost, so easily taken away…and they succeeded. "A good education is something no one can take away." If I heard it once growing up, I heard it a hundred times. It was the song and dance of my parents and their parents before them. And although none of them achieved a significant amount of education beyond that offered freely in this country, that they grasped as circumstances would allow them, and that held in high esteem. And believing in it, they wished for more for the children that followed. Today our family celebrated the college graduation of a son-in-law. It was a celebration of his commitment and dedication, a celebration of a tool for him that "no one can ever take away". It was also a celebration of the several hundred years his ancestors have been on the scene of every great event of this country, at the scene of every economical disaster, every war, every hardship. It was a celebration of all the times shirtsleeves were rolled up, and determination was reborn to "begin again". It was a celebration of the grandparents who were soldiers and farmers, housewives and merchants, traders and pioneers. Today a young man achieved the dream that has been in his family since the days those first many greats grandparents cast their eyes on an ocean…and dreamed what was on the other side. Just a thought, jan Copyright ©2000JanPhilpot ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (Note: Afternoon Rocking messages are meant to be passed on, meant to be shared...simply share as written without alterations...and in entirety. Thanks, jan) Sunday Afternoon Rocking columns are distributed weekly on the list Sunday Rocking. This is not a "reply to" list, and normally only one message per week will come across it, that being the column. To subscribe send email to Sundayrocking-subscribe@topica.com Comments about the content of these messages can be sent to unicorn@sun-spot.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~